Mathematician Jordan Ellenberg breaks down Math films & TV shows

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@davebayer5353
@davebayer5353 3 жыл бұрын
My wife loved Jordan's book "Shape". Partner of a mathematician is a great target audience. What Jordan is doing here is difficult. There is a long tradition of shining high-minded snark on popular depictions of mathematics; see for example the writings of Dan Rockmore. This genre is constrained in the same way as "conservative columnist" for WaPo, for one's conclusions need to satisfy a particular audience, and are mostly predetermined. When we read math papers, we use all of our powers to deduce what the author intended. That’s not the stance here. I was the math guy for ABM. Not the first; the creative team could not reach an understanding with my dapper predecessor on how to balance the needs of math and cinema. My profession is ill-equipped to help here, for our only fiction writing experience is grant proposals. Until Nash's breakdown, much of the math is taken from his papers. For example, in grad school Nash used all 24 Greek letters in a paper. As luck would have it, a widely circulated publicity still showed Russell Crowe staring through his dorm window with "0 < pi < 1" scrawled on the glass. Anyone who imagines that math requires great flexibility of mind would be dismayed to learn that mathematicians can be cripplingly conventional. This photo bothered colleagues who could only imagine "pi" meaning, well, "pi". A hilarious UC Berkeley email exchange wondered if the math consultant was trying to make Russell look stupid. I edited an interview on the DVD extras where Nash proudly explains this use of the Greek alphabet. During Nash's recovery, the filmmakers asked that the math be a fictionalized approach to the Riemann Hypothesis. Nash himself asked me about the porch clipboard, a novel notation for continued fractions. In the library scene here, the blackboard is adapted from famous related work in the 1960s. Nash is being generous with the grad student who missed the memo on covering spaces. I had this exact conversation with Barry Mazur when I saw this connection between my courses at Harvard. Barry simply responded with utter joy, "It's all connected!" As a failed painter, my favorite scene would be the board Nash erases. Before ABM, math in media was always four lines like a physics T-shirt. After ABM, one sees math as Jackson Pollock in ads everywhere.
@davebayer5353
@davebayer5353 3 жыл бұрын
I saw film criticism in a fresh light during rehearsals. In preparation for the Go sequences I consulted a highly ranked player. Go boards aren't quite square, and one could make excellent arguments for either orientation. This question is polarizing in the same way as "What is pi?", and she went off on me that I was going to destroy the game of Go if she didn't immediately replace me as consultant. During rehearsals, Russell Crowe and Josh Lucas stumbled making specific Go moves while acting; we decided that I'd make the closeup moves with second unit. As we broke for lunch, I offered "This is why the film doesn't have a Go consultant. A Go consultant would commit ritual suicide right now." Russell suggested that they should put my phone number in the credits. Then everyone in the room recited their harshest reviews, word for word from memory, to enormous peals of laughter. What Ron Howard does is deliberate, and successful.
@bartmaas437
@bartmaas437 3 жыл бұрын
@@davebayer5353 I loved reading your story. However I can say that the truly controversial question is "which pie are we having?" And that's from the partner of a baker (whom I still have to help with anything coming close to maths).
@dneary
@dneary 3 жыл бұрын
I loved your line "our only fiction writing experience is grant proposals" 🙂 Concerning A Beautiful Mind, I went looking for John Nash's PhD thesis recently to see whether the graphs he includes in his submission in the movie of a convex hull were actually in there - I was disappointed to discover they were not - it's "just" 28 pages of terse mathematical text (which is in itself hugely impressive!).
@danielguy3581
@danielguy3581 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have any insight into the origins of baffling "pen tribute" scenes?
@fatdad64able
@fatdad64able 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, okay.....
@richardgonzalez9773
@richardgonzalez9773 3 жыл бұрын
I like how the simpsons leaves math jokes for people like him and the dynamite gag for people like me.
@adam872
@adam872 3 жыл бұрын
It's always been unbelievably clever hasn't it.
@mistermarcus4281
@mistermarcus4281 2 жыл бұрын
I had to laugh way too much about this comment.
@johanrunfeldt7174
@johanrunfeldt7174 2 жыл бұрын
Those who find no enjoyment in the Simpsons show, have lost the will to live.
@TheLauraFacusse
@TheLauraFacusse 2 жыл бұрын
@@johanrunfeldt7174 when they used to be clever ....
@taligreen
@taligreen 2 жыл бұрын
I felt that in my heart and soul
@neclark2
@neclark2 2 жыл бұрын
This guy taught my discrete mathematics course 12 years ago. Best math lecturer I ever had!
@IonizedComa
@IonizedComa 2 жыл бұрын
@jshowa o I suggest looking at some KZbin videos KZbin helped me through most of my discrete math in my computer engineering classes
@neclark2
@neclark2 2 жыл бұрын
@Maiahi UW Madison
@vinnieg6161
@vinnieg6161 2 жыл бұрын
''He wrote, "A is to B, as A is to A + B". And he means "as A + B is to A", because if A is to B as A is to A + B, that would mean that B and A + B were the same, which would mean that A was zero, which is, I think, not what he means to say.'' After reading this 10 times I still don't know what he said
@davethesid8960
@davethesid8960 Жыл бұрын
​@@vinnieg6161 A/B=A/(A+B) means that A²+AB=AB whence A=0
@LordMizumaru
@LordMizumaru 5 ай бұрын
Damn. You're only one teacher removed from Futurama!
@Dayvit78
@Dayvit78 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really good idea by Penguin. Having the authors talk about their passion is a much better advertisement for their work than just talking about the book. If the author is interesting, we will want to read what they wrote. This guy was interesting.
@Kibbelingg
@Kibbelingg 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, and they can reach a much wider audience with this approach
@maskon1724
@maskon1724 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Jordan saw that A is to B mistake in Pi for what it was supposed to be. Aronofsky admits this very mistake in the directors commentary.
@nicosmind3
@nicosmind3 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite TV math scene is in Sesame Street, when the Count taught Big Bird how to count to 5. Now I didn't really buy it, birds can't speak English, and I didn't buy the acting, but boy was it passionate. It brought a tear to my eye
@rbitrary
@rbitrary 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine this scene will be covered in a future episode with a zoologist. I love sesame Street, but that is a rookie mistake!
@YourLocalAnonAccount
@YourLocalAnonAccount 2 жыл бұрын
Hands down the true OG to media and films being inspired by mathematics 😩🙌
@johnobrien8773
@johnobrien8773 2 жыл бұрын
"Get me that butterfly!" Comedy gold. 🦋
@AndySDoughnuts
@AndySDoughnuts 2 жыл бұрын
I found it funny how Jordan says mathematicians make mistakes with greater than (>) and less than (
@Aphercotropes
@Aphercotropes 2 жыл бұрын
IMO, Jeff Goldblum is always the best part of any movie he's in.
@nicosmind3
@nicosmind3 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know about that, I reckon he was the second best actor in The Fly, and the fly was easily the best. Like I bought the fly as a fly 100%
@broefkip
@broefkip 3 жыл бұрын
I am extremely surprised about how much mathmaticians are involved in the movie industry.
@strawman6578
@strawman6578 3 жыл бұрын
Mathematicians are involved pretty much everywhere
@polreamonn
@polreamonn 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't add up.
@georgewallis2020
@georgewallis2020 2 жыл бұрын
If they make a film with medical scenes they will generally have a medical consultant, same for maths and any area of expertise. It is definitely good to see they are talking to the right people!
@liquidbraino
@liquidbraino 2 жыл бұрын
There's more math involved in filmmaking than most people realize but more on the technical side than the artistic side. Everything from film finance to focal length of a lens; lighting and electrical has some degree of math involved.
@ABuffaloDub
@ABuffaloDub 3 жыл бұрын
It’s been 10 seconds and I already like this guy
@kylereese6202
@kylereese6202 3 жыл бұрын
It’s been 10 seconds, and I’m already confused.
@RobinLundqvist
@RobinLundqvist 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I went through the same thing
@HotelierNYC
@HotelierNYC 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE this guy. With all his hyperactive energy and passion he kind of reminds me of Richard Dreyfus in Jaws.
@jeronimo486
@jeronimo486 2 жыл бұрын
I mean I totally love these "An expert rates different movie scenes regarding their field of expertise"-videos, but an expert saying that a movie scene is inaccurate and HE IS IN THE SCENE HIMSELF blows my mind. Even though I work in media and worked on fictional movies and understand how this stuff happens, it still blows my mind. Incredible :D
@diabl2master
@diabl2master 2 жыл бұрын
He says it's cos probably they edited some bits together. What's so weird about it?
@lynxaway
@lynxaway 2 жыл бұрын
@@diabl2master come on man‚ obviously they just mean it’s a novelty for them
@tobylerone007
@tobylerone007 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this - part 2 please!
@WtbgoldBlogspot
@WtbgoldBlogspot 2 жыл бұрын
One interesting thing that A Beautiful Mind did get right is that 90% of hallucinations are auditory-only, and visual ones almost always start as auditory. Any time one of his hallucination characters appear, they're always heard off-screen first; they call out to him and then the camera turns and we see them.
@billh5923
@billh5923 2 ай бұрын
What? Nothing on the movie hidden figures?
@bobsmith5185
@bobsmith5185 2 жыл бұрын
The most ridiculous thing about the Good Will Hunting scene was the students. No one in lectures was that bright-eyed & bushy-tailed, so raptly attentive, or so prim, proper or chipper. And the students weren’t all so homogeneous. I rate that scene an i/10 [sic]
@Aphercotropes
@Aphercotropes 2 жыл бұрын
"i/10" 🤣😆🤣😆🤣 So true. As if math students were as ambitious and cutthroat as law students.
@evaxu1325
@evaxu1325 2 жыл бұрын
i/10… suddenly a whole new dimension comes out
@tylerarnett9232
@tylerarnett9232 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not mathematician but if they displayed math “perfectly accurately” wouldn’t that earn a 10/10 lol.
@DanCooper404
@DanCooper404 2 жыл бұрын
It's Common Core Math.
@Yarblocosifilitico
@Yarblocosifilitico 2 жыл бұрын
no cos 10/10 is just 1
@srignacio
@srignacio 2 жыл бұрын
he is a college professor, we know college professor never give the highest scores
@emmanuelcoquet6257
@emmanuelcoquet6257 2 жыл бұрын
Because it wasn't ambitious math
@rickdesper
@rickdesper Жыл бұрын
He's judging the films on a subjective scale. Accuracy is only part of the issue.
@BlackDog97
@BlackDog97 3 жыл бұрын
It was very interesting to listen to this professor talking in a foreign language
@christopherquigley5468
@christopherquigley5468 3 жыл бұрын
It’s too bad that Good Will Hunting couldn’t get the math right. It’s a great movie. I would be interesting if there was some theory that we still haven’t proven to this day and Will managed to prove it over a weekend. I think if you are like me and didn’t even pay much attention to what was on the blackboard you would have liked the movie.
@Misteribel
@Misteribel 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. They should've given him the Poincaré Conjecture. Difficult to prove, but not impossible, and proper level for grad students to understand (it's since been proved). Or the four color theorem, easier for the audience (color a map with only four colors and don't have adjacent colors be the same). Also since ben proved. Btw, the equation on the black board in the hall isn't well shown here, and it's an actual problem, however, easy enough for advanced high schoolers to solve using logic, as opposed to matrix calc. Mathologer has a video about it.
@pratn
@pratn 2 жыл бұрын
There actually was a guy named George Dantzig who solved two open problems in statistical theory, which he had mistaken for homework after arriving late to a lecture
@High_Priest_Jonko
@High_Priest_Jonko 2 жыл бұрын
I think Good Will Hunting was a decent movie ruined by being written by idiots. Like that cringe scene when the two guys are having a "battle of the brains" in the bar. But its just complete piffle. A smart person could have written a smart conversation.
@osmanyousif7849
@osmanyousif7849 2 жыл бұрын
No lie, I did. And in my freshman year of high school I would write the theories from that movie or A Beautiful Mind on the board when my class or teacher was bored and they actually thought I was doing something very college academic and started looking to me for help. It wasn’t until I told them, “Did you not see the movie?”, that they started to realize that it wasn’t actual math.
@nous2025
@nous2025 2 жыл бұрын
@@High_Priest_Jonko If you think a movie like Good Will Hunting is just "decent" I don't think you have any right to call other people idiots
@FMSkyLoL
@FMSkyLoL 2 жыл бұрын
McKenna Grace is quite literally gifted in anything. Doing college already, plays a dozen instruments, is an amazingly skilled actress, can apparently sing now too and that she memorized the stuff in the movie Gifted proved that even more.
@mephystovals
@mephystovals 3 жыл бұрын
@4:00 Additionally, at some point in the movie, when Max is explaining what the golden ratio is to Lenny Mayer, Max says that the golden ratio is represented by the greek letter Theta, when in fact, it is represented by Phi.
@AntonAdelson
@AntonAdelson 3 жыл бұрын
Pi is one of the best movies ever made and quite possibly the best soundtrack ever!
@Justin-kv8iy
@Justin-kv8iy 3 жыл бұрын
Clint Mansell soundtrack. Moon film ost is right up there too
@AntonAdelson
@AntonAdelson 3 жыл бұрын
@@Justin-kv8iy is that the movie with one actor being stuck on a moon base??
@Justin-kv8iy
@Justin-kv8iy 3 жыл бұрын
@@AntonAdelson yep. With a twist, but yep. Directed by Duncan Jones, aka Zowie Bowie
@roby9139
@roby9139 3 жыл бұрын
Jill Clayburgh teaches the Snake Lemma in It's My Turn. My algebra professor showed this scene as he was beginning his lecture on it.
@adam872
@adam872 3 жыл бұрын
Love this video. I enjoyed Jordan's book How Not to Be Wrong. I need to read it again I think.
@Aphercotropes
@Aphercotropes 2 жыл бұрын
Well... you're not wrong...
@kath1626
@kath1626 Жыл бұрын
I have absolutely no idea what he's talking about but I absolutely love how excited he is. ❤
@hypatia-du-bois-marie
@hypatia-du-bois-marie 2 жыл бұрын
10:10 the first line is just an affine variety or something. The second line is some kind of L-function? N hat as in a completed norm and d the index of ideal q?
@elmksan
@elmksan 2 жыл бұрын
Took number theory from Prof. Ellenberg at Princeton as a freshman in 2008. Great lecturer, awesome dude!
@mvarick1
@mvarick1 3 жыл бұрын
Such a lovely video. Thank you for this! Simply, a learned something new :)
@here_be_dragons9184
@here_be_dragons9184 3 жыл бұрын
Penguin Books branching into KZbin videos sounds like a joke from Bojack Horseman...
@WestExplainsBest
@WestExplainsBest 3 жыл бұрын
Very pleased to see Penguin UK breakdown a core academic subject like this. Bravo! Also great plug by Jordan to describe why we still need math ans math education today. Should a teaching scenes breakdown be next??
@yuckyool
@yuckyool 2 жыл бұрын
Pythagorean formula for Exp.[W%] is used all the time to estimate value added from RunCreation (hitting) or RunPrevention (fielding & especially pitching). BUT, exponent that makes the formula fit best is 1.89 +/- a bit . . . which depends on season and some park affects.
@Sewblon
@Sewblon 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know much math. But I love that Professor Ellenberg said "One of the best functions." It sounds like something that I would say. Best function! 10/10.
@mattc3581
@mattc3581 2 жыл бұрын
I think something that was missed by almost everyone is that the very final question the girl asks in Pi is 'what is 748 divided by 238'. This is the familiar 22/7 approximation of pi with both numerator and denominator multiplied by 34. Either the film maker getting in a final secret plug for the star constant, or more darkly, too much of a coincidence and an indication that drilling his head didn't work and he is only imagining he woke up back in the real world. When in actual fact he is still unconscious/dying and his sub-conscious is still fixated on Pi.
@michaelsharpe4217
@michaelsharpe4217 2 жыл бұрын
The Fermat Theorem counter example works on pockets calculators which are only accurate to 8 digits.
@omgtkseth
@omgtkseth 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this video, the topic, the guy giving his opinion, the movies/scenes that they picked, excellent combination.
@user-fc1kb6hd8y
@user-fc1kb6hd8y 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a maths teacher so I was trying to basically spot any of the issues as you were talking through them. I do love good will hunting but the maths is pretty poor.
@polreamonn
@polreamonn 3 жыл бұрын
@1:32 - Doesn't Homer replace the "greater than" sign with a "less than" sign?
@XCM666
@XCM666 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, oh the irony! (Unless the footage we see has been mirrored).
@aubadeeulogy473
@aubadeeulogy473 2 жыл бұрын
@@XCM666 Can't be mirrored, else the t(0) will look back to front.
@happysaffa8871
@happysaffa8871 3 жыл бұрын
I used to love maths. This guy has all my respect.
@huawafabe
@huawafabe 2 жыл бұрын
Why did you lose the love?
@fredk6992
@fredk6992 2 жыл бұрын
@@huawafabe enough maths drives you insane
@renee8833
@renee8833 2 жыл бұрын
Idk who’s idea was this to have penguin authors host these series, but it’s genius. Kudos.
@dedavai
@dedavai 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos for including Pi, an underrated movie with an amazing soundtrack!
@nikospapanikolaou9945
@nikospapanikolaou9945 Жыл бұрын
Amen Breakbeat + Maths= The essence of life.❤❤
@KillianDefaoite
@KillianDefaoite 2 жыл бұрын
He actually missed the point of the less than and greater than sign in the Simpsons example. In general relativity, Omega is the density parameter, which is the ratio of the energy density of the universe to the critical energy density. If this parameter is greater than one, the Einstein Field Equations predict a perpetually expanding ("blowing up"!) Universe.
@jonnymcroberts720
@jonnymcroberts720 2 жыл бұрын
3:50 i think i just had a stroke 🫠
@trwijbenga
@trwijbenga 2 жыл бұрын
Does this guy has his own channel? I'm only 3 minutes in and already a big fan!
@emosongsandreadalongs
@emosongsandreadalongs 3 жыл бұрын
The explanations of chaos theory in Jurassic Park the book are tons better than how it's presented in the movie. At least in my opinion
@mattc3581
@mattc3581 2 жыл бұрын
Michael Crichton's attempts at scientific explanations in multiple of his books are incredibly painful though, he generally takes a vague but currently popular scientific idea and builds a huge pile of ridiculous ideas on top of it. It can make fairly interesting novels but the science is horrible.
@AndreaWitt745
@AndreaWitt745 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I can't even understand the math they're teaching my kids in school these days. It's completely different than what I learned. This was great
@eelexa
@eelexa 2 жыл бұрын
Proud to say that I knew about a few things he talked about. Unfortunately I'm not going any further than that in mathematics haha.
@Dab42069
@Dab42069 2 жыл бұрын
7:34 off topic, I love the this will destroy you song. Its really good
@airline_peanuts
@airline_peanuts 3 жыл бұрын
How in the world does he have such an interest in and grasp of sabermetrics, but has never seen moneyball?
@RLplusabunchofdumbnumbers
@RLplusabunchofdumbnumbers 2 жыл бұрын
Because a lot of Sabermetric folks were rather hesitant to watch it, assuming that Hollywood would screw it up. Which is funny, because the things they actually messed up were the basic timeline and baseball stuff.
@BuriedTeeth
@BuriedTeeth 2 жыл бұрын
Not everyone watches movies
@kazielbonn
@kazielbonn 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is ruthless. Love it!
@eposz2
@eposz2 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, the sum of those numbers on the 12th power is almost equal to the number on the right. They differ only in their 11th digit, which is amazing.
@samholder196
@samholder196 3 жыл бұрын
i love that comment about the US Military being like 'get me that butterfly' lol so emblematic of a powerful figure/institution trying to co-opt something they don't understand
@High_Priest_Jonko
@High_Priest_Jonko 2 жыл бұрын
That's the danger of explaining math using metaphors. I spent years believing the Pigeon Hole principle is a lot simpler than what it really says
@lindam9618
@lindam9618 2 жыл бұрын
This was great...interesting, lively, fun. Someone posted they would like to have the TV show "Numbers" evaluated; and I'd love to have Jordan review a few clips from "The Big Bang Theory" ("Would you like to do the math?" "Yes, I think I would like to do the math.")
@programmer1840
@programmer1840 3 жыл бұрын
4:44 Is Jordan saying he doesn't believe that Da Vinci was interested in the Golden Ratio? I can't see anything about that online.
@jessicaschirle5974
@jessicaschirle5974 2 жыл бұрын
There's also a super brief moment with some impressively good math in season 2 of I Think You Should Leave! It flashes on the screen for a second during the Capital Room sketch.
@johnchessant3012
@johnchessant3012 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the movie Gifted! On the first watch I did a double take when I saw Jordan in it haha
@renzpaoloogena1900
@renzpaoloogena1900 2 жыл бұрын
For the Good Will Hunting part, I wish Jordan was shown the part where Will solved the graph theory problem on the board.
@rickgraham7641
@rickgraham7641 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised at how good Gifted was. Highly recommend.
@acleverley
@acleverley 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this so much! Can you do another one that covers math in high school movies? It's always so random!
@bradybriggs7292
@bradybriggs7292 3 жыл бұрын
This is missing the greatest maths scene in TV/Movie history... Season 1 Finale of Silicon Valley!
@Bfitzgerald82
@Bfitzgerald82 3 жыл бұрын
If another video is made, I would love to see 'Stand and Deliver' looked at.
@yuckyool
@yuckyool 2 жыл бұрын
Also, re "A Beautiful Mind," I know from folks who work at Princeton University, and from meeting John Nash a couple of times . . . that well, let's say Ron Howard's priority was delivering an enjoyable, understandable story. Absolute accuracy was a bit lower on the list.
@lancewedor5306
@lancewedor5306 2 жыл бұрын
And rightly so. Howard is telling a story, not making an historically accurate documentary, I believe. And the focus must thus be about the human response to life, triumphs and vicissitudes. This is a form he has mastered through so many projects. For me they are always compelling and expertly crafted.
@rickdesper
@rickdesper Жыл бұрын
Well, they needed to keep Nash likable. So they made his disease into some kind of magical curse.
@WombatMan64
@WombatMan64 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see Prof Ellenberg break down the Imitation Game.
@TheNitrall
@TheNitrall 2 жыл бұрын
1) He didn't explain the math joke in the Simpsons at all. You see, at that time most calculators would display numbers to such a number of decimal places that it told you that the equation Homer wrote holds. There were really some people who noticed it, put it in the calculator and since the proof of Fermat's theorem had already been recognized and was a BIG deal they were like: What the f**k is going on? 2) He has obviously never seen Jeff Goldblum in TV shows etc. He didn't have to act at all, he's even more math-weird in real life :D
@mattc3581
@mattc3581 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know how many digits your calculator has but 4472^12 is pretty big, over 40 digits long, so I'm going to suggest that wasn't the idea of this joke.
@DariusKhan
@DariusKhan 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattc3581 l was thinking the same. Even current calculators don't display near enough digits. (Regular off the shelf scientific calculators or apps that is).
@rickdesper
@rickdesper Жыл бұрын
@@mattc3581 Yes, that would be far too large for a basic calculator.
@etyodada
@etyodada 2 жыл бұрын
Please correct the statement at 1:29 to 1:31. He replaces a "greater than" sign for a "less than" sign and not the other way as stated in the video. Also, at 12:38 tp 12:42; I hear: "For N to be congruent to four mod five,; the answer is a multiple of five." The mistake mentioned at 12:52 is not on the video.
@sharpskilz
@sharpskilz 2 жыл бұрын
3:28 "I just want to speak to the soundtrack" can anyone explain to me what that means?
@MrBANANAS1235
@MrBANANAS1235 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, the phrase “speak to” just means he wants to address the thing. So he wants to speak to the soundtrack, meaning he wants to talk about the soundtrack. Or address the soundtrack. From google: Def. “Speak to” [for something] to address, indicate, or signal something.
@sharpskilz
@sharpskilz 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrBANANAS1235 I hear people using it a lot, it's obvious from context, but I really dislike it. It sounds wanky.
@fefferryerr1818
@fefferryerr1818 2 жыл бұрын
"It's perfect, i'll give it a 9 out of 10." Someone's math isn't quite right.
@High_Priest_Jonko
@High_Priest_Jonko 2 жыл бұрын
A 9.999999... out of 10
@Jon1950
@Jon1950 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear his opinion on the mathematics in Hidden Figures.
@markwoldin162
@markwoldin162 2 жыл бұрын
This guy should have a show. Charming, funny, smart. But what about the film Proof?!
@vast634
@vast634 2 жыл бұрын
The good old movie trope of some kid showing up, turning into Gauss without any formal education.
@revanii8791
@revanii8791 2 жыл бұрын
The Adjacency problem or matrix is way easier than how it is presented in the film. The branches aren’t really that difficult to figure out
@crystalrage
@crystalrage 2 жыл бұрын
As a child i wanted to be a mathematician or a game artist. I kept being told mathematician wasnt a real job and id never make it in the gameart world that eventually i just gave up. Mostly cause i couldnt afford college and stuff by myself when my mother refused to pay. So now i just toil away at a job i dont really like. Getting paid a little bit over 15$ and doing art on the side. Wish i could go back and encourage younger me and tell myself what i needed in order to be able to do what i actually wanted. Envourage your kids to pursue their dreams, they can always do a job they dont like as nuch if they fail, but its so much harder trying to reach what you love after you're stuck
@icizay
@icizay 2 жыл бұрын
I love that he's annoyed by Good Will Hunting. I'd felt exactly the same when I watched it.
@alimanski7941
@alimanski7941 2 жыл бұрын
@2:45 - Fourier transforms and Graph theory *are* very much related (through the eigendecomposition of a normalized Laplacian).
@rickdesper
@rickdesper Жыл бұрын
Yes, they can be. I think that the specific terms he's referring to are _not_ remotely related.
@n8cantor
@n8cantor 3 жыл бұрын
He says he misspoke in his own scene in Gifted by saying "seven" instead of "five", but at 12:38 you can clearly saying "divisible by 5". So he's only wrong about being wrong! Since he is talking about n being of congruent to 4 mod 5, the result being divisible by 5, and partitions being shown on the blackboard, I'm guessing this lecture must be about Ramanujan's famous mod 5 congruence. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramanujan%27s_congruences kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIS4eoFuopx1nNE
@williamavitt8264
@williamavitt8264 3 жыл бұрын
He says "the answer is a multiple of 5"
@thefourshowflip
@thefourshowflip 2 жыл бұрын
@@williamavitt8264 I’m not a mathematician, so if there’s some detail that makes this not generally valid I’ve overlooked…apologies in advance, but if X is a multiple of 5, then is it not necessarily the case that X is also divisible by 5? X=5y is equivalent to y=X/5
@bradleyclutton4564
@bradleyclutton4564 3 жыл бұрын
I was in this film! I made a mistake! 9/10 Lol
@nnaammuuss
@nnaammuuss 3 жыл бұрын
11:22 right after in the same scene the guy goes on to say: _‘...the functor is in the two categories,’_ which is pretty irritating too. And Russell Crowe goes: ‘mm-hmm!’ 😆😆😆
@98danielray
@98danielray 3 жыл бұрын
maybe they mean in the "2-categories" kekw
@coolpapabell22
@coolpapabell22 3 жыл бұрын
A prof just nodding along to a grad student saying dumb things doesn't seem far-fetched to me. :D
@BGNewsReporter
@BGNewsReporter 3 жыл бұрын
1:27 I ain't no mathematician but I'm pretty sure Homer replaces the greater than sign with the less than sign, not the other way around...🤷‍♂
@StuckCentrist
@StuckCentrist 3 жыл бұрын
D'yall watch that video where it shows the Golden Ration is not, in fact, everywhere in nature?
@KingKing-cz6xh
@KingKing-cz6xh 3 жыл бұрын
In good will hunting I believe the professor had already proved the Theorem he was just using it as to see which of the students could figured it out as well
@Fivehotdogsplease
@Fivehotdogsplease 2 жыл бұрын
I wondered what he thinks of the CBS show Numb3rs. That had mathematician advisors and was reported to be well received by other mathematicians.
@rickdesper
@rickdesper Жыл бұрын
Yes, they did a good job on that show.
@luked1974
@luked1974 2 жыл бұрын
Has anyone caught that he makes a mistake at 4 minutes and says that A would have to equal zero, when actually B would have to equal zero?
@rickdesper
@rickdesper Жыл бұрын
No, it's A that has to be zero. If A/B = A/(A+B), then (cross-multiply) A(A+B) = AB, so A^2 + AB = AB. The AB's disapear and you're left with A^2 = 0. So A = 0.
@MrJeezus
@MrJeezus 3 жыл бұрын
The extent of my math skills is "Laura Dern is hot."
@thesnagglewolf
@thesnagglewolf 3 жыл бұрын
I double checked your work and found it to be correct.
@dneary
@dneary 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be curious to see what he thinks about 21, X+Y (aka A Brilliant Young Mind), and Matthew Broderick's Feynmann.
@Loctorak
@Loctorak 2 жыл бұрын
I like this guy, don't get me wrong, but the instant he said "i have a really funny story, actually.." i was like "There's no way this story is funny" and i was totally correct. I think it's something about mathematicians... or maybe university professors... idk, one of these subsets of people doesn't ever use the word "funny" to mean "this might make you laugh", it's always a prefix to a mildly intriguing anecdote. 😂 Still really enjoyed his breakdown, though. Great video!
@EvanMildenberger
@EvanMildenberger 2 ай бұрын
2:28 I think when the prof refers to a "Fourier system" outside and then when the chalkboard shows a (multi)graph problem with matrices showing the solution, the connection is related to spectral graph theory--basically, how a system represented by lines between dots can be studied in the same way that a continuous sinusoidal signal can be decomposed into its basic parts. But it probably would've been more realistic to just say there's a graph problem to solve. 🤷 (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_Fourier_transform)
@108u9
@108u9 3 жыл бұрын
Need a part 2 reacting to the confused math lady meme 😂
@alexchittenden8668
@alexchittenden8668 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see you break down Scott Steiner's math promo
@epicmorphism2240
@epicmorphism2240 3 жыл бұрын
You should look at the scene in Beautiful mind where nash is a professor and writes the hard problem on the blackboard.
@taf8903
@taf8903 2 жыл бұрын
At 1:28 he actually replaces a *greater than sign* with a *less than sign*
@Massangler1856
@Massangler1856 2 жыл бұрын
How do you do this and not include the Snake Lemma scene from It's My Turn?
@joannesmith2484
@joannesmith2484 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised he didn't do any scenes from Hidden Figures. Especially the scene where Kevin Costner hands Taraji Henson the chalk and she does the calculations regarding landing the capsule in front of all the bigwigs at the meeting.
@JayTemple
@JayTemple 2 жыл бұрын
Homer's inequality error reminds me of the cartoon I drew some years back. You see a rocket hurtling downward, and one of the people in the capsule says, "But all I missed was the sign!"
@RSLT
@RSLT 5 ай бұрын
Wow, a true mathematician! I think he gave a score of 6 or lower to everyone except himself, (9 out of 10).
@Tcoldsteel
@Tcoldsteel 2 жыл бұрын
I watched this video and give myself 9/10 too.
@danthebat666
@danthebat666 3 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to have seen the movie stills held on screen for longer while Jordan was talking, but I enjoyed this video.
@AllenKnutson
@AllenKnutson 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jordan! I'm surprised you didn't mention the best depiction ever, Jill Clayburgh's proving the snake lemma in front of a snotty grad student. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4mlf4Ogp9urY6s Last I saw there was still a picture of here in the Princeton math mailroom (from when she came to practice with Nick Katz).
@HorribleGBlob
@HorribleGBlob 3 жыл бұрын
The GOAT of mathematics scenes in movies. Nothing else is even close.
@davebayer5353
@davebayer5353 3 жыл бұрын
Credit to Dick Gross. Best math scene ever.
@AsAMonkeyInAPinata
@AsAMonkeyInAPinata 2 жыл бұрын
Is this Alternate Reality Amir Blumenfeld? (But seriously, great vid)
@brandonflorida1092
@brandonflorida1092 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot the fine structure constant on the black board in "The Simpsons."
@VoxFelis
@VoxFelis 3 жыл бұрын
1:17 in and I'm already confused.....ahhh numbers.
@MrJeezus
@MrJeezus 3 жыл бұрын
As Carl once said, "It's best not to think about it."
@vikaswadhwa7274
@vikaswadhwa7274 2 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping you talked about the topology joke in the first Simpson's clip! Torus + bite -> Sphere! Maybe they cut that out?
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