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LEGO Star Wars Has A Minifigure Problem!

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Ай бұрын

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@neptunemacaw3354
@neptunemacaw3354 Ай бұрын
the gunship could of also included pilots. we haven't seen a phase 2 pilot sense the head hunter. that mold was so sick.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
True, but that helmet is also long retired, which is why it hasn't been used since, and... also why they tried passing of a completely different helmet as one too.
@nihili4196
@nihili4196 Ай бұрын
​@@PenPlays We've seen Lego reviving molds that have been retired for decade. Hell, they revived B2s not that long after. Tho since it's shock trooper gunship, we've seen regular shock troopers pilot it, so I wouldn't mind if they included two more regular shock troopers instead.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
Very true on both accounts. We will see what the future holds. Maybe they'll remake them entirely, like they've been doing with all the trooper helmets as of late?
@danyzg_2053
@danyzg_2053 Ай бұрын
Maybe we can see that mold in the aniversary of revenge of the sith
@AspiringAsparagus
@AspiringAsparagus Ай бұрын
To be fair, in the episode the set is based on, we see regular troopers piloting the gunship
@harrisonspooner264
@harrisonspooner264 Ай бұрын
I am so glad we have someone like you to thoroughly explain the problem with Lego Star Wars minifigures. We almost never seem to get a good set that meets every mark, ( Great quantity and quality of minifigures, Great build, and Good value/price). One of these is always missing, and because of that I haven't bought a set this year, and I was hoping to buy something in August but now I'm not sure.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
Be diligent about finding discounts and you can have your cake and eat it too. The problems is the FOMO at the very start, and wanting to enjoy the new stuff as it releases. I lost that feeling long ago.
@timebomb42
@timebomb42 Ай бұрын
I feel like you should pin that comment you just made, because everything about it is 100% true. The fomo is what drives Star wars fans to pay these ridiculous release prices. But if you wait a while for discounts, and take time to narrow it down to the sets you really want, you'll find that you enjoy it so much more. ​@@PenPlays
@daviddaniels2204
@daviddaniels2204 Ай бұрын
100%
@andynachos2045
@andynachos2045 Ай бұрын
LEGO Star Wars fans try not to complain challenge (impossible)
@hoarder66
@hoarder66 Ай бұрын
​@@andynachos2045no one hates Lego StarWars like a Lego StarWars fan😂
@ThomasKnip
@ThomasKnip Ай бұрын
LEGO just knows that - with all loudly expressed criticism - AFOLs will just buy the sets. So why add more value if you don't have to? They know their customers,
@devincayton4434
@devincayton4434 Ай бұрын
My biggest complaint is I hate it when they give us a vehicle with not enough clones, droids, stormtroopers etc to fully man it. I get it, they do that so you’ll buy a battle pack or something but just give me more basic variants to have a fully kitted vehicle.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
Still waiting on the 212th Battle Pack to go with the AT-TE and the Coruscant Guard Battle Pack to go with the Gunship…
@ryanelliott71698
@ryanelliott71698 26 күн бұрын
@@PenPlaysthe same! I so badly want to fill up my at te set but 2 years later we still don’t got a 212th battle pack
@BrandonScott-mi5pz
@BrandonScott-mi5pz 25 күн бұрын
EXCELLENT WORK. PENPLAYS LEGO STAR 🌟 WARS MINIFIGURES
@CabinetWabinet
@CabinetWabinet 17 күн бұрын
Or when we get 3 clones and a vehicle and 1 droid
@DilbertChan
@DilbertChan Ай бұрын
It's nothing short of incredible how stingy LEGO can be when they pinch pennies in a LEGO Star Wars set. On the scale they work with, including cloth pieces in a $20-$40 costs them pennies. Yet, other than capes, they have chosen to omit them outside of $100+ sets(except in the case of Clones. They don't get cloth pieces anymore, period, unless it's Captain Rex. Even then they cheaped out and printed the waist cape). They used to do it. They CAN do it. It's not inflation preventing them from including cloth pieces- it's greed. Pure unadulterated greed.
@RealSteveLarry
@RealSteveLarry 21 күн бұрын
Bingo
@robotigerproductions6543
@robotigerproductions6543 Ай бұрын
You really are spot on with the "added value" section. Great video.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
Thank you. I appreciate your kind words.
@americathecountryball8358
@americathecountryball8358 Ай бұрын
Sad to see you didn’t say “The Justifier really didn’t JUSTIFY its price”
@GreenNinj4
@GreenNinj4 Ай бұрын
I wish that you also mentioned in detail how bad the quality of figures is. Inaccuracies, lack of waistcapes and shouldercapes, most figures not even having leg printing or coming with plain legs when they need dual molding. The gunship is a good example: Instead of giving us a new Padme look, they recycle an old one and give her no dual molded legs although she clearly wears boots. Fox armor is inaccurate, pink instead of white and has no waistcape. The set is not worth its price, doesnt have enough figures and 40% of them are lackluster, all of that considered I dont see how this is a budget issue, unless the budget for this 150$ set was 50$.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
@@GreenNinj4 I have! Just not in this video. That part where it shows the “LEGO Star Wars Fans Are Angry” thumbnail with all the clones has a link to a video that goes over all of that, and solutions as well.
@LLegaLLizeITxC2
@LLegaLLizeITxC2 Ай бұрын
Lego really is greedy on generic troops/grunts. Like in that Moff gideon vs Pre vizsla set - The scene has 3 pretorian guards, why only put 2 in the set? it's like a few cents in production costs
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
@@LLegaLLizeITxC2 I guess the logic is trying to get you to buy the Paz set and the Advent Calendar to get the total quantity (which is ridiculous, as it should have all three off the bat)
@uhsokka
@uhsokka Ай бұрын
the point about adding more troops is something i agree with, even as an adult. id love to have gotten enough 212th troopers to fill out the at te and gunship. but you know lego does it so they can sell more battlepacks. money money money.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
Ok but where’s my 212th Battlepack? Where’s my Stormtrooper Battlepack? Why wait when we can have it now, ya know?
@uhsokka
@uhsokka Ай бұрын
@@PenPlays yeah its quite unfortunate they dont do that. I am in need of another storm trooper battle pack now that I am an adult and can start massing them. It would be nice if, as you briefly touched on, lego were to get more funding/ designers allocated to star wars so we could get more battle packs. or, they could just put more figures in these expensive sets
@WyattKittle
@WyattKittle Ай бұрын
then you add onto it that there’s often so long between when these things release that they’ve changed the style of the figures and now the battle pack isn’t synergistic with what you wanted in the past anymore
@aslamc9288
@aslamc9288 Ай бұрын
As a minifig-focused collector, I couldn’t agree more. I want more figs than we’ve been getting (and more builds that aren’t just ships; I want buildings and settings, something I can keep on a table and place figs and it’ll make a nice thing to look at).
@Ruune__
@Ruune__ Ай бұрын
Lego Star Wars would be saved if they gave us Ben Quadrinaros smh
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
Easy money for them right there. What gives?!?
@MegaRayquaza260
@MegaRayquaza260 Ай бұрын
So refreshing to see educated takes about the issues with the modern Lego era. So many just complain and take the reasons given as excuses for Lego being lazy. Feels nice to see someone actually recognizing themes have a budget with the amount of new prints they can introduce each year and because of that you instead offer alternatives like including more repeat figures across sets or in the same set, when it applies. Keep up with the great content!
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
I’ll do my best to. Thank you. The worrisome part is that a lot of the community has resigned to the idea that “they’re just lazy” so that they don’t have to take the steps and effort to learn what’s actually going on. I feel I have the ability to share that all in one space, and I take pride in it. This isn’t the first time I’ve gotten real about minifigs, and it sure ain’t gonna be the last.
@gonkdroid8279
@gonkdroid8279 Ай бұрын
Yeah, throwing in a few extra identical clones wouldn't bankrupt Lego and would make the set feel more reasonable in terms of what you get
@timebomb42
@timebomb42 Ай бұрын
That minifigs per interval graph was really great, and a great way to communicate how many minifigs should be included at any given price point. I do wonder what your opinion on UCS sets is though, say like a $500 UCS set that comes with over 4,000 pieces. Would you still include that interval considering that would come out to be about 26 minifigures?? Or would it be that the interval doesn't matter with UCS sets because those are made primarily for display and not play??
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
That list bit is correct. The minifigs are a bonus. It's why I'm not very particular about how they handle exclusive minifigs they include, and will celebrate if any that do are set free of that (like Captain Rex and the Landspeeder's C-3PO). For MBS sets, as playsets, the hope would be that nearly every relevant character be included, and then a fair quantity of who else could be added if applicable. Cloud City having no general citizens was a bummer, and while the Cantina didn't have enough Bith's I would've preferred more of the patrons anyways. Both did a great job at minifigs-per-interval tho, all things considered.
@timebomb42
@timebomb42 Ай бұрын
@@PenPlays I'm afraid my question didn't come across as clearly as I would have liked it to, my bad. What I actually meant to ask was, do you think it's applicable to have minifigs come with these giant builds in the first place? Considering the majority of UCS sets are meant for display and a large portion of them are big ships. Take the set that you mentioned with the "certain Captain Rex" would you use that interval for that particular set considering that there is almost no playability and the entire thing is for display??
@samkerr6029
@samkerr6029 Ай бұрын
How they plan sets and minifigures baffles me, it makes no sense to get a new x-wing or speeder almost every other year. People have longed for older sets like Palpatines arrest, Home one, Rancor pit. In some cases they will bring back a crowd favorite but end up making it worse, being of smaller size and worse choice of minifigs. Examples would be Imperial shuttle and the MTT. So the sets keep getting less appealing and more expensive. I understand that disney wants a cut of the profit but they should not charge more then 10% of the cost of an unlicensed set.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
The reason we get X-wings and Landspeeder every couple years is because the average timespan a child is interested in LEGO is about three years tops. A new version of either of those iconic vehicles drives interest. So as more kids come into likening LEGO, there is a want to make sure they have access to the latest versions of the most iconic things about Star Wars.
@RRostar
@RRostar Ай бұрын
the licencing costs are not that big for Lego. Lego is not the friendly company that some people think. They do the bare minimum at the maximum price, that they think people will buy that shit. As long as people buy that sets for the high price, Lego will not change. My solution for this: look at the competitors. The last thing Lego has are the minifigures, (also the custom market is in this point way better) everything else is significantly worse than the competitors
@peterpolus5272
@peterpolus5272 Ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video and making it so well argumented. I'm a Lego star wars fan and the pricing, quality and minifigure distribution issues are frustrating, it's important to talk about them.
@TheNightKidHimself
@TheNightKidHimself Ай бұрын
I see star war lego I click 😅
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
Basic life needs, indeed.
@Seersilky
@Seersilky Ай бұрын
I see Lego star trek i quit🗿
@BAUFmanBricks
@BAUFmanBricks Ай бұрын
Well done, a solid systematic argument that doesn’t simply complain (although warranted) but brings facts and examples
@TheDrWill
@TheDrWill Ай бұрын
I'm a Boba Fett fan. I've collected every set with Boba Fett in it, and continue to buy new sets with a Boba Minifigure. The mech set they brought out last year had me excited, and I bought one because it had a new updated figure, with new arm printing. It was a little disappointing that there wasn't a cape, but I get it because they said a mech set needed a functional Minifigure without capes so it would fit easily inside the mech. Fair enough. Then the new pics of the 2024 desert skiff set come out. It's the exact figure from the mech. They can't say it needed to have no cape, because this isn't a mech, or anything where Boba is designed to go into a cockpit or anything. Then what makes me more disappointed, is that this design is totally inaccurate when it comes to the movies. The Boba we see in ROTJ has a cape, and the leg printing is not accurate for the movie either. They've previously released skiff sets with more accurate figures, with capes. Why are they doing this? It really makes me want to reduce my buying down so that I only buy new sets if the figure is actually new, or exclusive to that set. I'm so disappointed, because I grew up loving lego star wars, and went on to being an adult collector of lego, with a complete Boba Fett collection. And I like to see new versions of the figures. I'll also note that I collect Jango Fett as well, and I've hoped for years they'd release a new Jango Fett Slave 1. I don't care about the size, or the accuracy too much. Just a nice build with a new figure set. Fans have asked for this for decades. Literally. So my question is - WHY WHY WHY?????!
@TheDrWill
@TheDrWill Ай бұрын
What I'm trying to say is, why release a set, if it doesn't meet the standards of the majority of fans? If the design falls short, they should wait it out until they perfect the design and give actual fans the ability to rate these.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
The impression is that it’s meant to support a future set, going off rumors. An unfortunate side of LEGO rn is that they reuse out of place minifigs to cut corners. What is VERY unbecoming of them is them doing this to Boba Fett of all characters. The reason is always money.
@dominickbadial5980
@dominickbadial5980 3 сағат бұрын
My biggest complaint with Lego Star Wars minfigs is the waist capes. It costs them less then a 1/10 of a cent and should be placed in sets that require them.
@hoarder66
@hoarder66 Ай бұрын
Supply answers instead of just complaining about it??? Thats unheard of😂
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
Answers based on what we know, ya. Gotta at least try to encourage rather than just criticize after all.
@tylermitchell7686
@tylermitchell7686 Ай бұрын
Do they really have to licence every character separately? I would have expected that the licence taker (Lego in this case) would have a deal that includes the whole theme in a flat rate deal situation. It's not like Sony acquiring the movie rights only to Spider-Man and not Marvel as a whole or different entities holding the rights to specific characters. Even when Timothy Zahn invented Thrawn he's not holding the rights to the character since it all belongs to Disney now (and back then probably some entity as Lucasfilm or it's book branch.
@Bas-TB
@Bas-TB Ай бұрын
I agree, if Zahn get something from Lego Thrawn it is probably arranged by Disney. Under Lucas it was up to the book publisher to pay both them and the author, for books. I think they said Sony had movie & game right. I am not sure about a live action series, but Disney has the comic and cartoon series rights. Most Lego Spider-Man sets aren’t based on the movies, probably so it falls within the Disney deal only.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
Zahn was at least a contractor, if not an employee of Lucasfilm at the time of Thrawn's creation. So Thrawn is Lucasfilm's property regardless of who made it.
@TheBacklogBuilder
@TheBacklogBuilder Ай бұрын
I agree with pretty much everything, but I do think it’s important to point out when LEGO gets it right and includes the perfect amount of [great] figures like the MBS Mos Eisley Cantina.
@bearabletable7527
@bearabletable7527 20 күн бұрын
Sometimes I wish people actually ask the lego star wars design team as to why capes/pauldrons/waist capes werent included when they should of been.
@bigmonke7661
@bigmonke7661 Ай бұрын
I 100% agree I need more clone phase 2 pilots and vehicle crewmen for my vehicles
@Belangerz
@Belangerz Ай бұрын
Great video as always Pen. Most Lego Star Wars sets feel like they are lacking in either the build, figure selection, or both for the price they cost.
@basslightyeah
@basslightyeah Ай бұрын
We didn't get a regular version of CW/Episode III Anakin for 10 years. I'm not counting the Mustafar one because of the burn marks. It's insane. The issue isn't necessarily that Lego puts wrong versions in sets, it's that the default is often not available at all. Certain characters across all trilogies should always be available.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
I agree wholeheartedly. It's been nearly five years since that Anakin was in a set, and that's insane to me
@danyzg_2053
@danyzg_2053 Ай бұрын
They have like a predilection to 4 -5-6 movies and the prequels are often forgotten
@tamashorvath224
@tamashorvath224 Ай бұрын
This is the most level headed chanel I have seen in ages. Both for Lego and Star Wars.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
I try my best to be. Thank you for the kind words.
@paladox1771
@paladox1771 17 сағат бұрын
I thought the gunship was from the Clone Wars episode where the zilla beast was trying to kill Palpatine. Padme and Palpatine were both on the same gunship in that episode. As for the clones present and the color of the gunship in that episode- sorry but I have no idea if it's the same as this one. xD It would have been nice to get a set with the zilla beast's hands and head in addition to the gunship. Still disappointed that we've yet to get ANY Boba Fett on pet rancor toys. I thought that was the whole point. >.
@OnePoundBird
@OnePoundBird 17 күн бұрын
isnt it obvious? lego is a company. its main goal is to earn money when they force star wars stans to spend loads of money getting dozens of the same set, they profit more (also imo that minifig metric of 1 per $10 etc is extremely arbitrary)
@wafflezombie167
@wafflezombie167 22 күн бұрын
Seeing the screenshots from TCW episode that the Coruscant Guard Gunship was based on, it’s makes so much more sense why the Commander Fox minifigure is so inaccurate. Lego definitely based the design for Fox off of Thorn
@sonsofanarchy924
@sonsofanarchy924 Күн бұрын
As a Lego Marvel fan, you should be glad that almost all of the Star Wars figures has leg printing😭
@rotzie8834
@rotzie8834 15 күн бұрын
The main issue with Star Wars is the lack of enough troopers, like clones, stormtroopers, or droids, to adequately staff vehicles. Another complaint is the absence of additional miniatures in small sets, such as Yoda’s starfighter or General Grievous’s starfighter, which are often overpriced. Additionally, clone helmets could be improved.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays 15 күн бұрын
You speaking my language.
@Allosauruairsoft
@Allosauruairsoft 8 күн бұрын
My biggest problem with Lego SW figures are the droids, we are told in the clone wars show and in the movies that the droids outnumber the clones by the hundreds. And yet in almost every set we get an equal amount of droids and clones, most of the time more clones than droids! Im not actually expecting hundreds of droids out of one set 💀 but I wish we got more droids than clones.
@ryanreeves8931
@ryanreeves8931 Ай бұрын
Not Critical at all. All you have to look at is the 500 dollar (+) UCS collections with 2-3 mini figures. And we keep collecting. :/
@raphaeltouron9149
@raphaeltouron9149 Ай бұрын
oh lord, the Tallon Overworld depths track playing in the background was delightful
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
Only the best for my viewers
@Gideon0297
@Gideon0297 Ай бұрын
Man, this is a great video... Thank You!! I just found your channel. Instant Sub!!!
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, and for subscribing!
@deejaylegoz9323
@deejaylegoz9323 Ай бұрын
Part of the problem with these sets, along with other themes, is tie in sets not including the proper characters because Lego wasn’t given the proper context. Most of the time it’s just random vehicle with random inaccurate figures because Lego simply didn’t know. It’s the problem with tie in sets for new films and shows.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
I'd agree with the context part. LEGO is given 4k turnarounds of characters and vehicles these days, as allowed, but the context itself is usually ambiguous unless, concept art has been developed to offer context in addition to the materials they already get from Lucasfilm, for example.
@henrybig7423
@henrybig7423 22 күн бұрын
I am so glad that you don’t just point out the problems with Lego’s current philosophy but you also provide a fair and reasonable solution to those problems. Great job on this video and I hope the Lego Star Wars board of directors see this video. 👍
@PenPlays
@PenPlays 22 күн бұрын
They don’t have a board of directors per theme lol. I do hope this message reaches LEGO tho. Thanks for the kind words
@MLPGamer44
@MLPGamer44 Ай бұрын
Lego Star Wars and other premium sets should be a loss leader for Lego. Lego is too big to fail at this point. And giving their premium sets more minifigs or parts to buy, is a reason to keep coming back and buying them. People will always buy Star Wars or marvel sets. If you give them more, it just makes them want to come back and buy again. Think milk or bread for stors, if they buy milk or bread, they’ll buy bacon and eggs, it’s a whole ecosystem of recurring purchasing in a regular bases. Or because Lego is too big to fail, they know they can undercut their premium sets, because you can’t get them anywhere else.
@jmurray1110
@jmurray1110 Ай бұрын
Want the perfect loss leader example: baked beans In the UK baked beans were so important one store sold them for -2p No seriously
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
I would say LEGO is too big to fail, but something like a loss leader would be most welcome. The only issue is that it’s very likely Lucasfilm requires a certain image to be retained, and is something LEGO must adhere to. Only problem is that opinion on the consumer end won’t change, but because of corporate executives typically being disconnected from direct access to their markets, they wouldn’t assume that.
@fractalelf7760
@fractalelf7760 Ай бұрын
You only have to look back at the first waves of SW sets to see where sets had more minifigs and parts in general. I’ve found frequently it feels like a set needed 2-3 extra figures to round it out. On Yavin IV temple design, it was plainly evident a larger set was in mind as the two wings holding the briefing room and command room appear cut down from a larger design. Once you extend them out a bit proportionally to the center section the set feels and looks right. I’m convinced the original design had larger wings after seeing it. To the point about figures, the set cries out for at least three minifigs: X-Wing Pilot Luke, one more Rebel Trooper and one Rebel Ground Crew. With the extended wings (about 5 studs depth) and the additional figures it hits the mark.
@FabuBrik
@FabuBrik Ай бұрын
preaching to the choir. well done, but doubt anything will change sadly.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
@@FabuBrik If Star Wars has taught us anything, it’s to have hope.
@foreverfornever1124
@foreverfornever1124 Ай бұрын
Sadly this great arguement you make is exactly how I value SW sets within the past 3 years. Iv had people tell me its due to licensing and being a branded IP which can still be true, but I have been a SW fan far beyond lego for over 2 decades. If theres one thing I know is these product making companies know SW fans are some of the most fanatical and collection driven customers in the world. Any and everything you can think of can and will be collected by some group within the fan base. Lego minifigs are no exception and they can be the worst. Lego literally has that community by the stones. Theyll either buy the set straight up, on a sale, or buy the figures second hand. The problem is, Lego knows they can get away with these prices regardless of who buys it because SW minifig collectors will still casually spend $10-$20+ on a figure second hand. So $80 for a desert skiff set really translates to, $80 for 6 minifigs and a bunch of pieces. Which in some peoples minds is cheaper than buying all 6 of those minifigs or any number of them second hand and selling the rest to recoop part of the money lost. Perfect example is the recent retired Justifier that was at $170 retail. I bought just the justifier ship for $80 second hand because of how valuable those minifigs were in that set
@GregoryRellaford
@GregoryRellaford Ай бұрын
I definitely agree with a lot of this. I can’t imagine the complexity that goes into pricing LEGO sets and I assume there is still a measure above what we understand, but it sure would be nice to see a bit more improvement on minifigs. I hope that LEGO is doing their best with what they can 🤞🏼
@legotimefuntime5438
@legotimefuntime5438 29 күн бұрын
I pretty much stop buying Lego for a while now. Not sure why people get so angry and bent out of shape over it. There’s the metal molds LEGO has to make, also plays a factor. I completely agree with you as well.
@KataIIama
@KataIIama 8 күн бұрын
i do like the corrusant guard gunship my two issues with it are the single (i modded mine to have double doors) and the Fox minifig
@sherloc_
@sherloc_ Ай бұрын
That minifigs-per-interval is…*chefs kiss*
@Chadimus9Prime
@Chadimus9Prime Ай бұрын
This is my first time watching one of your videos, so I dunno if you do this all the time, but thank you so much for reminding me that I need to re-listen to the Metroid Prime soundtrack.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
Only the best OSTs for my viewers.
@BMW-sd6nn
@BMW-sd6nn 20 күн бұрын
Amazing music choice btw, Metroid Prime is the GOAT.
@dtinagliastudios
@dtinagliastudios Ай бұрын
Spectacular video as always.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
@@dtinagliastudios Thank you, Dan. I appreciate it.
@shaunw9092
@shaunw9092 Ай бұрын
The dude who designed the $30 Clone Battlepack with a ton of figs (awesome value) is no longer with Lego. They hate putting a ton of figs in SW sets.
@kinglukethe7th524
@kinglukethe7th524 Ай бұрын
Source for this claim?
@shaunw9092
@shaunw9092 Ай бұрын
@kinglukethe7th524 It won't let me post a link, but look at the Brickset page for the set. Designer was Nathan Clark.
@shaunw9092
@shaunw9092 23 күн бұрын
@@kinglukethe7th524 Brickset
@ignskeletons
@ignskeletons 8 күн бұрын
When the margins are THIS high on a plastic product and they don't just give the consumers $0.0001 in extra plastic to make the mini figs with their $500 sets it's very disappointing as a normal consumer who isn't an investor type. I just want minis with sets to play with!
@ignskeletons
@ignskeletons 8 күн бұрын
I feel like LEGO is very aware of the aftermarket resell and is nerfing their own products (making them worse) as a direct result of the aftermarket, hurting normal retail customers and kids.
@AisuAsai
@AisuAsai Ай бұрын
honestly I feel like Lego star wars fans care way too much about minifigures, I saw so many people complaining that the UCS venator only came with 2 minifigures, when you can't even do anything with them.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
Think of it sort of like action figure collecting. Sure most collectors will have them displayed and do nothing with them, but that doesn't stop it from being a hobby. People want exclusives if they're going to collect, that's just part of the appeal. There needs to be a balance tho, of course, as this is a toy for children first and foremost, and in that, also comes the concern for quality. I will add tho, this is just one video in a series talking even beyond LEGO Star Wars about the LEGO minifigs, and you'll find some of the topics from this video discussed in future episodes regarding different themes as well.
@OtisCluck
@OtisCluck Ай бұрын
I love how mad the “collectors” are about the Captain Rex now being in a $13 micro fighter set lmao
@coralthehippo1247
@coralthehippo1247 Ай бұрын
I’m sorry but four minifigures would’ve been nicer than two :/. It’s $650 and getting more value for your money is nice
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
@@coralthehippo1247 I mean, if the set was more than just a display piece, I'd feel it could use more, and, honestly, it should have. The Venator including Anakin and maybe even Ahsoka would have been most welcome, considering it's specifically based on Anakin's ship.
@AisuAsai
@AisuAsai Ай бұрын
@@coralthehippo1247 if you could do anything with them then yeah, but they just sit on a stand and do nothing, no reason to add them and inflate the price
@9franzi
@9franzi Ай бұрын
I see you casually plugging in that metroid prime music in the background. Finally a lego you tuber with proper taste and culture
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
Only the finest OSTs for my viewers
@yobaafett
@yobaafett Ай бұрын
Great explanation! I've always felt like the Star Wars theme sorely lacks diversity & consistency with quality
@chriscummings4206
@chriscummings4206 Ай бұрын
I had the opportunity to purchase the Justifier on discount for $99 (if you call that a discount at Walmart) at one time and I passed it up. I'll probably not purchase the new Star Destroyer set because I get enough used parts every year that I could eventually build my own (hopefully) twice as big.
@danyzg_2053
@danyzg_2053 Ай бұрын
I think they can leverage the minifigure series to bring us less important characters or more generic .Imagine a series only for clones , other for separatists (including og droids ,neimodians,geonosian etc).Other for jedis (the ones that we dont get since 2013 or before),other for clone wars secondary characters ,other for old/less important themes like the series.Imagine having back the minifigs of rogue one ,rebels and also series from newer series(ahsoka,kenobi,characters from mandalorian). As you can see there are infinite options. Of course they could include some relevant character from time to time. I dont really know why they dont do this, I mean there no reason against.
@madarauchiha919
@madarauchiha919 Ай бұрын
For the at-te i swapped out the 212th with my 501st cause i had 14 and thats plenty to fully fill the walker with some extra to walk around outside the walker.
@JackTast1c
@JackTast1c Ай бұрын
About the CG Gunship, I'm not defending LEGO don't get me wrong but kids today don't have long enough attention spans to go back and watch TCW to understand who Rush Clovis is so it wouldn't matter to them if it was included (yeah ik most LEGO SW fans are collectors anyway but I just wanted to say something funny)
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
It would matter because it’s another character. Context doesn’t matter as much with kids as long as they have their main characters. In the end, the older builders get a bonus figure that they understand.
@saltedblueberry
@saltedblueberry Ай бұрын
They couldve just made the scene in the justifier from earlier in the episode, put a couple phase 2 plain clone troopers in it, and boom, perfection. (Except for the price)
@user-mp8qg5tb5e
@user-mp8qg5tb5e 29 күн бұрын
Nice video btw, I totally agree. If they added more minifigures I would be much happier with the price.
@HeadHunterKillCounts
@HeadHunterKillCounts Ай бұрын
also annoyling lego keeps forgetting that there are clone piltos who pilot clone gunship
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
Agreed. They should make a new helmet, and then plan on releasing a ton of sets requiring them. Both for Phase 1 and for Phase 2.
@paradox2767
@paradox2767 Ай бұрын
Nice vid, and thoughtful Minifigure Metric! I DO feel as though price per piece has to be factored in, however. The Interstellar Spaceship, for instance (60430) has 240 pieces, ONE minifigue, no stickers, and costs $20 - basically the perfect set.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
@@paradox2767 Oh believe me, price per piece is as much as a standard here as minifigs-per-interval. We can have both. In the case of that Spaceship, it delivers on the part qty front to legitimize only coming with one minifig. Balances itself out quite nicely.
@sponbob5612
@sponbob5612 Ай бұрын
very well articulated !
@beddeb45
@beddeb45 Ай бұрын
Would be nice if we got a ROTJ Boba Fett in ROTJ sets, instead of ESB Bobas Also Thrawn would have been perfect if lego didn't unnecessarily remove 2 code cylinders
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
Hardly understand the code cylinders issue. Boba tho. It’s a completely different character at that point. No idea why they think they can pass that off
@legokid2022
@legokid2022 26 күн бұрын
I'm excited to get the dark falcon I think the minifigures are great especially darth vader
@Vanuma25
@Vanuma25 25 күн бұрын
Produktion kost is not what it is thats Holding Lego back. Its Just their sheer will. They wont give you any more because they get greedier and greedier and try to get away with higher price and less things in the Sets.On top of that they sue other companies that make their own minifigures
@commissardale
@commissardale Ай бұрын
LEGO is doing the exact opposite of what Kenner did, where LEGO has made dozens of the same characters over the years, while mostly ignoring all the "Glup Shitto" characters. Thinking back, I think only sets based on events of Tatooine include a bunch of unique aliens. I can't say "unnamed", because they're all named, but lesser-known or with barely any screen time. Both Jabba's Palace sets, any Mos Eisley Cantina set (especially that SWEEET $400 one, favorite thing I've ever bought) so on and so forth. Unique aliens are just so rare outside of it. I know some do exist, especially if the alien plays a larger part in the story like Admiral Ackbar or some of the sequel aliens, but yeah I agree we need more figures. But I want more aliens!
@warhead5225
@warhead5225 Ай бұрын
They really need to find a way to do collectible Star Wars minifig series. 2 every year. There’s just so many characters we don’t get for years or haven’t gotten at all. Dooku for example. A main antagonist, a must have if you collect them, and he was last released 10 years ago. Asajj Ventress hasn’t seen the light of day in years as well. I’m running out of room for these $500 sets that have the most exclusive yet coveted figs if you collect them. Cloud city Lando is a perfect example for that. An iconic character and to get the best version of him, the only one that will stand next to your modern Luke and Han, will cost you hundreds of dollars. Like sure, I can be on the ball and bricklink the specific figs I want right after the sets come out, but there’s just got to be a better way. With 2 series of collectible mini figs every year, they could cover all eras, and the mains we’ve been missing for years could return. With what gets released now, and for some years now, we’ll probably never get an updated Zam Wesell figure. Collectible series could change that. Along with adding ones we haven’t gotten like Wat Tambor, Admiral Trench, Zygerrian Queen and Slavers, Second and Ninth sister. Updates on Shaak Ti, Obi Wan in his bounty hunter disguise, Plo Koon. So much they could be doing with a collectible Star Wars minifigure series
@groscas
@groscas 16 күн бұрын
that works in a vacuum ,but what about lego city ?
@aarushganji321
@aarushganji321 Ай бұрын
Video is very well done, look forward to more uploads from you!
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
@robk6551
@robk6551 23 күн бұрын
Part of lego's game is to stretch and manipulate demand by selectively including minifigures. Why include ALL of the bad batch in the Justifier if you can goad the customer into buying 2 sets at double the price? I'm not saying your analysis is invalid, I just don't believe Lego does anything by accident... Lego doesn't want to add value, they want to make sales at the lowest minimum investment. And that has a lot to do with how many adults with adult money are involved in Lego. A set doesnt have to be a complete play set because the average adult fan can and does fork out for disperate parts.
@Sorrus-B4lyfe
@Sorrus-B4lyfe Ай бұрын
= Disney owns the IP not Lego. Disney takes a huge percentage of sales yet it sells… So Lego is doing whatever it takes to cut costs while making a profit. Hence why Lego’s original IP such as Ninjago is full of Quality. They also have to go through “approving” the designs… which is why sets come out late. It’s that simple.
@99GregPotter
@99GregPotter Ай бұрын
Great video, thank you for articulating something that seems so obvious to us fans but for some reason Lego doesn’t seem to understand
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
It's my preference to spell it out, rather than use harsh phrasing. Being constructive is the only way we can hope to see them improve.
@AnakinSkywalker-l1z
@AnakinSkywalker-l1z 20 күн бұрын
We need a new Anakin, it has been years since we got one
@atlasproduction4773
@atlasproduction4773 28 күн бұрын
In my opinion thoes arguments, are only valid for hard core star wars nerds
@RealSteveLarry
@RealSteveLarry 21 күн бұрын
Hardcore Star Wars Nerds are the customer base, or used to be before the disney buyout. Now its just trash.
@Rikka_Roll
@Rikka_Roll Ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video, Instead of just complaining about the mini-figure problem you actually provide a decent and reasonable argument not fully founded on emotions. With a actual rational solution that seems all to reasonable to me. The special focus on the new Gunship with the Thorn and other shock troops is a fantastic point to make and I don't know why they make these bigger sets able to be built out like armies is very silly to me. Great vid, you got my sub man.
@jameslane7659
@jameslane7659 14 күн бұрын
It’s 100% Disney tax. Don’t lick the boot. Otherwise good video. I wish someone like you would work at LEGO
@PenPlays
@PenPlays 14 күн бұрын
I see you don't understand how business and licensing works. Thanks to the internet, it's free!
@Bass-mx3iw
@Bass-mx3iw Ай бұрын
I enjoyed the video but I feel there were a few times the music was cut oddly. Do you think Disney has a choice on what figures should be included because I know they do have a say on some others sets that have released with what characters were in it
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
I have had some issues with the sound doing it’s job as of recent. Needs more investigation it seems
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
Lucasfilm has a say, yes. All decisions are made by them. Disney just owns them.
@astadragneel4643
@astadragneel4643 Ай бұрын
yea 100% understand people love builds but for me its figs so you nailed the reasons I passed on that gunship this set would have been better with Padme (New Outfit), Rush Clovis, Thorn, x2 Shocks & x2 Pilots if they needed more would not have minded getting the sep senator or the banking clan member either would be the first for their race so could even get new molds or as you said embo could even get his hound (molded mess me with that brick built crap) not sure we would ever get these figs again so such a shame they we're not included also, DC may be the worst offender theme wise for me personally so many characters yet it's almost always batman or superman stuff :/ for awhile did hold out hope for young justice figs but ig not going to happen so I'll stick to customs ik we may get some figs soon from guns reboot (not that it will be any good) but why wait they have so many shows & movies to take from
@LLegaLLizeITxC2
@LLegaLLizeITxC2 Ай бұрын
while I think that the recent sets had some cool characters in them that we hadn't seen in a while, I 100% agree that Lego Star Wars could easily be 10x better with a few simple steps mentioned in the video. I really wonder why random 4€ collectible figures get dual-molded, side-printed legs and arm print for no reason, while Star wars characters dont get it even though they absolutely need it (Sabine Wren for example). And dont even get me started on cloth pieces/waste capes
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
@@LLegaLLizeITxC2 the reason the Collectible Minifigures get all the fancy stuff is because the Collectible Minifigures team has their own budget. A budget they don’t have to spend on sets, so all that money can go into minifig details. So, say if they do a Marvel series, even tho it’s Marvel, the Super Heroes team isn’t actually involved.
@Mark_Williams.
@Mark_Williams. Ай бұрын
Why does everyone complain about minifigs per dollar? Do you just want minifigs only packs if you had the chance or would you like, you know, an actual set the minifigs can be used on/in? Would you expect the UCS Venator to have like 50 minifigs?? I think what they're doing is fine. If you want more minifigs, it gives you the impetus to buy other related sets to get the extra minifigs. Lego strategy win. As much as they claim they'd like to bring fun to you, at the end of the day they have to line their pockets. This is a good strategy for offsetting the licensing fees while making you come back for more.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
Uh… watch the video?
@soulebuerste9274
@soulebuerste9274 Ай бұрын
Wen die nun keine Prints für jedes Set rausbringen und noch immer Aufkleber benutzen seh ich sowieso schwarz für Lego
@kirboioproductions74398
@kirboioproductions74398 Ай бұрын
I’m glad we share the same opinion on this topic!
@SirRecon
@SirRecon Ай бұрын
Yeah at this point the mini-figures often outvalue the set itself, back in the day a great army men play set had to have a great set design and dozens of playable soldiers for the set to be successful. What the fan base actually wants is like 20 clone troopers at a time, with a value of $2-3 a fig. That's what a battle pack should look like, no need for lousy side builds. BTW great video.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
@@SirRecon I wonder if people would be ready for a Battle Pack with that many characters? More for the price it’d come with, I mean. Thanks you for the kind words
@nicksGLI
@nicksGLI Ай бұрын
Licensed LEGO = diorama sets, not play, and that's a problem
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
I’d look at the options they have, again
@JoheTehn
@JoheTehn Ай бұрын
Thought you would comparé with the Harry Potter Line up. This side meet more often if not almost the Time... Sure maybe the liscensing Price is lower and help with that feeling but when I see the same Price and notice the voie is more interesting on Harry Potter theme, it hurt a bit to be a Lego Star Wars fan doubled with being 1 collectionnor...
@teorloges315
@teorloges315 Ай бұрын
just add 4 more red clones so we can fill our gunship more clone means happy
@pacboy7673
@pacboy7673 Ай бұрын
The fact that we could have gotten both Thorn AND Fox in the same set really peeves me off
@mysterybroz4810
@mysterybroz4810 Ай бұрын
Hey Pen now that we just got bumblebee do you think you may do another transformers video? Hopefully the next character we get is soundwave or another decepticon.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
Definitely not off the cards. I’m going to focus on getting the rest of this series out first, and then we shall see what happens
@spacespectrum9279
@spacespectrum9279 Ай бұрын
Lego knows we're hot on clones, so they gove us the bare minimum to keep us thirsty for more or to buy more copies of the set, Or, there are just wrong people working on the wrong work.
@FHT1883
@FHT1883 22 күн бұрын
Lego's people don't give a fuck, it's just a fact, they could put more effort in if they wanted. I guarantee you that there is no clause in their contract with Disney which says that they can only put so and so many figures into each set. Just look at Harry Potter: there, a set above 100€ nets you at least 12 figures.
@HarrenTonderen
@HarrenTonderen Ай бұрын
lego have a budget problem. It feels like every year the rules for designers become more strict - for example, one minifigure cuts pieces from building even if it's a duplicate, not only just couple studs but mostly function elements. I think lego just playing too safe, this is even comical, but sadly a corporate toy world.
@justinmcare814
@justinmcare814 Ай бұрын
Basically it would have cost them a couple more cents per set to include a fair amount of figures. But legos advertisers get sets for free so they mainly justify whatever they do lol
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
Well… that’s not how either of those things work, so there’s that.
@FHT1883
@FHT1883 22 күн бұрын
15:05 it goes into cocaine for executives, duh
@flolikeyou6053
@flolikeyou6053 Ай бұрын
IMO there should be 1 minifig per $10. it shouldn’t decrease after a certain amount. A $200 set should absolutely include 20 minifigures.
@MrScaryPasta
@MrScaryPasta Ай бұрын
Is there any problem LEGO doesn’t have? 😂 First with droids and snapping joints, then with a shortage of Clones and Imperials, lastly let us not forget the brittle colored bricks issue. And now this? Are you just clickbaiting us or is LEGO hiding something behind closed doors? Great video btw.
@giygas9305
@giygas9305 Ай бұрын
Is that music from Metroid? Metroid Prime?
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
Indeed. Only the best OSTs for my viewers
@OwenGee22
@OwenGee22 Ай бұрын
8:00 it was a missed opportunity to not use this colour scheme gunship during the grogu chase on corruscant in the mando flashback. Such a waste of a design.
@PenPlays
@PenPlays Ай бұрын
@@OwenGee22 Right? Although I guess if it’s the 501st using their own ships, it’d be different.
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