Pentium G7400 & RX 6500 XT - Fail or Playable? - The Modern Low-End Gaming Experience

[@oddmofo]

Stuff like this is why I have followed this channel for so long. This is that interesting content that we can't find anywhere else on KZbin. Even if I don't own any of the parts in the video, as a PC enthusiast I love to see it done. Thank you for all your work, and I wish for you a happy and better year.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@jamesmith5960]

@@RandomGaminginHD Can you find an 8GB version of the 6500xt? I would love to see some of your testing on it.

[@BonusCrook]

I subbed for all the weird stuff that other techtubers wouldnt do

[@thomasberry8873]

@@jamesmith5960 they don't exist

[@ScavengerFX]

@@jamesmith5960 there's no such thing as an 8 GB variant.

[@rheinhardhuman4017]

The Pentium has come a long way, I remember when I got my first laptop, it had a Celeron 1000m with integrated Intel graphics from 2012, god how I wished for the Pentium my friend had back then, I was happy with 23 fps in ac blackflag at 800x600, had to mod bioshock and delete game files for assets and effects in battlefield 3 just to run those at 640x480, and yet, I was happy with that. Back then these type of framerates would have blown my mind.

[@JETWTF]

My processor in my first custom built system was a Pentium, just Pentium, the original release. I did skip Pentium 2, got a 3 then a Pentium 4 3.2 Preshot space heater which ran 10 degrees cooler at 3.6 ghz with a multiplier overclock for some ungodly reason. Pentium have come along way, was the highest top end processor at one time until Core 2 supplanted it then the I series of core processors supplanted them. Quite a ways from top of the line to next to bottom of the barrel.

[@lolpl0000]

hah, 2012 :) back when i went from having a laptop that couldnt run minecraft, to having a balls to the wall pc that could easily get 100 frames in battlefield 3 :) that was my first pc, gifted to me by my dad. to say i was happy would be a major understatement.

[@mistrotech8894]

Back in 2012 I couldn't have played any of those with my Pentium M...

[@DC3Refom]

On the laptop side The earlier Ryzen laptops were better value for cheaper than a pentium ( I was looking for one and they £400 performance worse that the 2200u and integrated graphics much worse )in 2018 I got HP 2200u laptop 1080p screen 256gb SSD, cost me £260 new , I bought an extra 4 GB ram for £4 and recently last year upgrade my motherboard to the 2500u board for £70 so I have £4 cores 8 threads now and beats most Pentiums amd i5 8 /9 series intel with tdp increased to 40w , It has enough power for my needs , if need more power I have my 3080 , 5900x desktop

[@eggcopter]

when you grow up, the novelty of getting something to run is no longer there. I wish I hadn't sold the shitty n270 netbook I had...

[@skemmy215]

Ive been watching your channel for 2 years and finally i building a pc. My i3 12th gen just arrived today and i think I'll have enough to finish the build by April. Until then ill be watching your videos :)

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Awesome! Good luck with the build!

[@jyllianrainbow7371]

I find that a lot of tech youtubers seem to think people only game on PC to play the latest games at Ultra settings and/or at super high framerates. The main reason I mostly play on PC is to play the rich history of thousands of games, mods and fan/indie games only available on PC and 99% of those can easily run on this setup.

[@87crimson]

Preach. That's what PC gaming is all about. I'd rather have my old FX rig than a new gen console. The library is insane. And don't get me started on modding and emulation

[@smarfbag8714]

PC gaming is about freedom you don’t have to play crazy ray traces butthairs of shrek. Any hardware you can have a great time.

[@basshead.]

So you want them to test new GPUs with old games like Skyrim, Fallout 4 lol?

[@cz5836]

I don't think there's anything wrong with what these KZbinrs are doing. After all, KZbin is a business and to maximize their channels they need to appeal to the largest audience possible and the algorithm. So I'm not one to pretend that my uniqueness should be prioritized over the larger, more common viewer.

[@pluxithegoat]

Yo what i like to see its not that power hungry thats really good thank you for the video

[@itsTyrion]

would've LOVED to see the i3-12100F which, as you said in your Pentium review, is usually only a little more expensive with double the cores

[@RacingAnt]

Yep, and works on the same motherboard, so is surely the ideal stop-gap CPU?

[@RacingAnt]

I bought a 9100F in the middle of the COVID shortages - it was the only CPU available at the time. The plan was to replace it later. Well, nearly 3 years later, it's finally been replaced. Lol. A great stop-gap.

[@dejanzabaljac6950]

You deserve a cookie man! I am still holding on to AMD 3000G for now, for me if it runs its playable...

[@paddylester936]

very impressive what 2 cores can do nowadays, great video!

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah definitely

[@dyslectische]

Its a 2/4 core treat . And do not forget with ddr5 it can handel a lot of memory performance. Its not the same like the older pentiums. Personal note i never will go for a cpu like that for a pc . Even a 4/8 treat cpu i never go for. A 6/12 treat is personal cpu minum for my self The price are good and its more future proof Even today my Ryzen 2600xt en mijn laptop i7 10750h can play with out a sweat .

[@vmafarah9473]

Maybe gpu is pulling too many frames, and half of the cores are relaxing .

[@roasthunter]

@@dyslectische This was tested on DDR4

[@HaakonHaug]

I have a second spare system that i use occasionally for gaming, including rdr2. It has a Pentium G6405, 16GB and a 5500XT in it, and it does surprisingly well and is quiet as a mouse.

[@KimBoKastekniv47]

Must be quiet because the 5500XT rarely hits full utilization.

[@HaakonHaug]

@@KimBoKastekniv47 It's not as bad as you think. The recent Pentiums offers surprisingly value for money and it does manage to feed the GPU. The rx6500 in this video doesn't really represent the value of these Pentiums

[@StayMadNobodycares]

@@HaakonHaug They still can't beat 5-10 dollar used xeons.

[@SpaceGamblerJR]

the rx 5700 xt is an underrated card as well

[@jamezxh]

Good little system if you game at 1080p mid settings 60FPS. Not everyone twitches at 600fps on Counterstrike.

[@selohcin]

That was surprisingly good for such a low-end setup.

[@mikigameplays]

I am still shocked what i witness , what a dual core can still do OMG !!!

[@spykegodbv]

When encountering CPU stutters at frames above 60, please also try with a 60 or even 30 FPS cap. Would really like to see how much that changes the experience. Also, keep up the great work!

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

Will only alleviate the stutters if the 1% low is above the number that you are capping the framerate to.

[@lolmom6839]

I swear to god that yesterday i had curiosity about the Pentium G7400 and wanted to see videos about it. Now this dropped.

[@QuiteLunacy]

"despite the 69fps average which was quite nice" Nice.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

😁

[@GoBuyMulk]

Bruh it runs better than my i7 6700k and GTX 1660. I am gonna need to upgrade to a pentium

[@sanesttatefan4907]

Then ur PC has serious trouble

[@lordofthemfl9899]

U have 8gig ram probably.

[@takehirolol5962]

@@lordofthemfl9899 Most likely and who knows about the RAM speed...

[@Art_bor]

You have problems

[@wezojad2362]

Please, check your BIOS, RAM speed is most probably the culprit

[@vmafarah9473]

This is the reason I follow this channel.

[@bluej511]

Love your vids mate, great seeing lower end CPUs. I started with a 4400p or wtv it is without igpu, then went 4690k. I'm now at a 5800x3d and 7900 XT. Come a long way.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Nice :)

[@ruinedlasagna]

Another victim of the 4690k to Ryzen pipeline. Seems everyone with a 4690k goes straight to 8 core Ryzen, including me.

[@hyperturbotechnomike]

Is started with an 486DX2-66, then a Pentium III 633Mhz (which was super easy to OC to almost a full Ghz), Core 2 Duo E6600, E8500, I5 570, i7 4770k, i7 9700K and i don't know yer what my next CPU will look like. Maybe an i7 17700k (if they keep the naming).

[@bluej511]

@@ruinedlasagna i started with first gen Ryzen, helped Asus with beta bioses, they sent me a free crosshair vii that I'm still using today. I have an x570 waiting to go in

[@aternias]

I love videos like this, I wanna see how low we can go for a 60 fps experience yet ultra affordable

[@Carstuff111]

I really enjoy this channel. My current computer I bought used from my roommate just before the pandemic, an AMD Ryzen 5 1600X overclocked all core to 4GHz, 16GB DDR3 at 3200MHz and a Zotac GTX 1070 that clocks between 1911MHz and 2015MHz on the GPU core depending on temps. I have a used IPS monitor that runs at 80Hz and suits me fine with a resolution of 2560x1440 as my pimary, and an old Dell TFT monitor I got from a local AutoZone for free that runs 1280x1024 75Hz. I have never truly owned a new computer, just built PCs out of used parts because I don't really want to be, or need to be, on the cutting edge. I enjoy Cyberpunk 2077 at 1920x1080, with almost everything set to high with a few changes to medium, textures set to high, FSR 2.1 set to Quality and the FPS locked at 60 in the graphics driver....and the game with the most crazy things going on never drops below 50 according to MSI Afterburner. I very much enjoy how there is a PC community centered around older hardware and inexpensive builds. I will admit, I am looking forward to an upgrade to an EVGA RTX 2080 Super. If anyone is interested, please let me know if you would like me to post any performance differences I notice on my AMD Ryzen 5 1600X system between the two cards? I am more than willing to put together some actual, more scientific numbers to help out. Well, if that is ok?

[@Loundsify]

If you're upgrading to the 2080 Super you ideally need to upgrade the CPU to a Ryzen 3600 to stop any bottlenecks.

[@remix3434]

I also chose the RX 6500xt for my 13 year old cousin in combination with an i7 4790k and 16 Gb and he's running great in 1080p.

[@newroo]

Good to see you enabled resizable bar or "SAM". Since that gpu will work like crap without Re-bar! Try it out!

[@KimBoKastekniv47]

Go one tier up in both the CPU/GPU and you got yourself a killer budget gaming rig: i3-12100 + RX 6600

[@debashisraykarmakar836]

Yes you are right, but this video is more fun stuff watching dual core processor in action.

[@beavatatlan]

how about celeron g6900 + RX 6400?

[@KimBoKastekniv47]

@@beavatatlan Some games won't even launch with just 2 threads, at least the G7400 has 4.

[@MatiX415]

It has only 4 cores, it won't last a lot of time. it's better to buy ryzen 5500 or 5600

[@KimBoKastekniv47]

@@MatiX415 4c8t is still viable today, the 12100 matches or beats the Ryzen 7 3700X in games which has 8c16t. 5600 at $145 and 5500 at $90 are good choices too.

[@weejay2860]

The reason why I admire watching you because of this. No where I've seen someone make a pair like this and wow the results is very stunning. G7400 can hold up pretty well. To me, it's kinda a perfect combo for a simple setup on the go.

[@debashisraykarmakar836]

Excellent video. Much awaited. Great CPU GPU pairs comparison. Please also pair rx 6500 XT with athlon 3000g.

[@stonalisa3729]

Isn’t 300G pcie 3? The 6500XT benefits most from pcie 4.0

[@debashisraykarmakar836]

@@stonalisa3729 yes exactly what I want to see the difference.

[@Negiku]

The combo performed way better than i expected

[@detroitfinedining]

My beloved rx 6500xt has potential

[@LiteralBeans]

I'm running a 6500xt with an fx 4130 because my pc with a 2600x got bricked. I have no idea what's happened and tried everything. But the 4130 works surprisingly well.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Good to hear. Nice to know those fx cpus are still being used

[@dd22koopaesverde58]

@@RandomGaminginHD i used a fx 6300 but now i have a r5 1600 af a great upgrade

[@BonusCrook]

I reccommend with the 6500 XT that you overclock in radeon software so you can enable memory fast timing mode to help alleviate the 144GB/s memory bottleneck Also maxing out the memory slider (which most people should be able to do) brings bandwidth up to 172.8GB/s which is very close to the 1650 super

[@BonusCrook]

@Donald Nemesis its something but im more talking about memory tuning

[@BonusCrook]

@Donald Nemesis its what causes it to be unpredictable and sometimes very slow in pcie 4 systems, at stock it only has %75 the bandwidth of cards like the 1659 super

[@wandameadows5736]

@Donald Nemesis Its 20-25% slower on pcie 3 because its pcie 4 & it only uses 4 lanes. Its the best 1080p budget card out there. The content creators freaked out cause it doesn't have video encoding but an igpu can solve that & lets be honest, someone shopping a lower end gpu for gaming isn't worried about that. There's some brand new on woot $129.99.

[@wandameadows5736]

@@BonusCrook Its still 20-25% better than the 1650's though.

[@BonusCrook]

@Captain_Morgan Gbits isnt quite the same as GB/s When someone says the 6500 xt is using 18gbit memory they dont mean it has 18GB/s of bandwidth

[@nopadelik9286]

"(..) an entry-level card that didn't receive the warmest of welcomes" (0:20) 😅 man, i really like the way you formulate and speak,. English isn't my native tongue, so i appreciate and enjoy your clear and easy to understand way of speaking, love your unique style as i helps me to to completely get and understand your subtile humor 🖤

[@jayb2705]

I picked up a a 5600xt second hand, and it was much better value than the 6500xt because it's not gimped by the lack of PCI 4 lanes.

[@cygnusxavier8501]

Intel should make those pentiums true quad cores... then they would actually be true budget value chips.

[@moonlacer2]

All the first comments being automodded is funny

[@cicalinarrot]

Wow, that's much better than I expected! Think the i3 could still make a great $/£500 PC with the 6500XT.

[@RichardMontgomeryYT]

A used 5700 our 5600xt would be better

[@cicalinarrot]

@@RichardMontgomeryYT indeed, but if you get a new CPU, maybe you'd wanna pair it with a new GPU too.

[@tomcatsdb4755]

I paired the 6500xt w/ the 12100f (which hovers around 100 to 110, so only roughly 20-30 USD more than the pentium but twice the cores and threads). I think for budget builds (outside of the used market), this combo is the sweet spot if you're bypassing the APUs and gaming at 1080p. As you said, there's a fair amount of games that need more than two cores to run acceptably, and the additional cores help keep the lows more steady in games that otherwise run ok (for far less stutters).

[@MrDrewseph]

Low end stuff is so much more interesting than high end

[@malthusg1115]

I just love your content. It's so much more interesting than the majority of KZbin tech stuff where its just 4090 this 4090 that. Thanks for your work and happy new year.

[@SHUTENSEPC]

keep improving, i can see the progress already 💪🏻

[@AwSomeNESSS]

Crazy to think about how a 2C/4T chip can do better than last-gen consoles in most cases. Shows the performance leap we’ve had in the past 5-10 years.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah the difference between modern low end and aging high end is getting narrower

[@AwSomeNESSS]

@@RandomGaminginHD yes! In some ways we’re finally seeing a revival of budget gaming. Sub-$200 parts and discounted AAA games for a better than last-gen experience.

[@StayMadNobodycares]

The xeon 775 to 771 mod on ddr3 boards are still the cheapest Esports builds right now. Granted these are used parts and a lot of people want fresh hardware, the cpus are 10 dollars the motherboards are 20 dollars the ssd is 20 dollars the Ram price is going up though to around 35-50 dollars.

[@daytimerocker3808]

u can get 16gb ddr3 1866mhz on newegg for like 40 new.

[@KH_1]

I guess you can find first to 3th gen i5 set in this price range.

[@daytimerocker3808]

@@KH_1 I agree Id way rather just get an i7 2600 for like 20 bucks than some old 771 xeon

[@solocamo3654]

That is amazingly better than I expected.

[@braddl9442]

This is way more interesting to many then dropping in the latest things. Many people cant afford the best of the best. So these types of videos can help people figure out what is feasible.

[@JMartinni]

"The 6500XT is doing better than it would in PCIe 2.0 or 3.0 systems" you point out, while the card sits at ~75% usage and the game being capped at 60 anyway. Doubt the bandwidth of the bus would be making a difference here.

[@letni9506]

I was still occasionally using my i7 870 last year until it started chugging. I took the fan off and the cpu had a crack in it. I love playing games with older hardware. The i7 and gtx760 lasted me a good while.

[@UncommonKnowledge587]

Half decent performance and a solid upgrade path for the processor. Not bad for the initial cost.

[@ProNarch01]

My first option was to buy 6500xt, but I saw that it's not very good when use for video editing so I got a used 1660 super.

[@dankestmemes6748]

I'm just as surprised on the mw2 frames 90fps on a cpu like that? Fucking hell budget is well

[@TorstenSimon]

Unfortunate that a system at this price point still isn't even able to get at least 2 times performance of the last gen ps4 which here in Germany goes around for 100-150 euros.

[@Midori_Ringo]

I can understand this the lowest of the low, but this looks like a colossal fail for the $ and you're being really kind to this combo, which is fair enough as I've never actually heard you ever rip anything to shreds and that's not a criticism - that's a good style to have. 6600 is only $50 more in my area, some places have it within $30 (but out of stock) so probably the same for most regions. That's not a lot for 50% more performance. I still wouldn't touch a 6500xt at this pricing. And why the G7400 over the Ryzen 5 3600? I mean it still is pretty easy to find new and the price difference is negligible? Especially when AMD boards tend to be cheaper. That's a lot more performance for not a lot more. I mean I'd rather go g7400+6600 and take the bottleneck while saving for a better CPU if I had to have intel. This way you only have to deal with one mediocre part to upgrade.

[@Naddoddur]

Yeah, not everyone lives in your area mate. In mine the 6600 costs almost twice as much and this chip is quite a bit cheaper than the 3600. A520 and H610 motherboard prices are quite similar here. The 1700 socket (and pci-e 4.0) could be seen as being more valuable to a prospective buyer than (a pci-e 3.0) am4.

[@Midori_Ringo]

@@Naddoddur I've checked sites Europe UK and Germany, I checked Japan, US and Australia. And 2 of those - Japan & Australia are notoriously expensive. All in line with what I've written. What region are you in that a 6600 is 2x a 6500xt? Can't import? In what scenario is 1700 socket and pcie 4 worth the tradeoff for shittier performance. I mean if you're buying a g7400 and an H610 You're crippled by dual core, It's unlikely you're going to pair this setup with stuff that benefits from pcie 4 and if you say upgrade path that's the shittiest reason to accept subpar performance.

[@nadirjofas3140]

@@Midori_Ringo not in germany

[@Midori_Ringo]

​@@nadirjofas3140Cheapest I've seen 6600 = 269euros, cheapest 6500xt =199euros. Granted I don't know all the major retailers in Deutschland and my german is the weakest language I can read and write but but ok it 69euros not 50euros. It's still a terrible price 6500xt. 70euros for double the performance. If you're working that's what an extra week of saving.

[@nadirjofas3140]

@@Midori_Ringo More like 80% for 100 euro more.

[@gtPacheko]

I remember rocking a G4560 for quite a while back in 2018 through 2020, when I upgraded to a Ryzen 3. Honestly? Not so bad. Played tons of games with that + a 1050Ti. Now I'm running an i5 8400 with a 1070 Amp Extreme. So happy, runs everything I throw at it.

[@siddarthgandubilli2786]

Used to run a G4560 with a GT710 for a very long time, and that little CPU stayed good even as the system around it kept changing. I went from 4GB, to 8GB, to a 1660 Super, then dual channel 16GB, and I happily used it like that for almost two years before the *motherboard* gave up the ghost. Had to sell it off to help fund a new CPU+mobo combo as that was the more viable option but I still got almost what I paid for it. I texted the new owner recently and it's still running great in his 1080p gaming SFF HTPC. Absolute banger of a CPU, I really doubt either AMD or even Intel could make a sub-100 dollar CPU that can be recommended without any buts

[@mtaufiqnmtn]

Wait, how can you upgrade to ryzen 3 while now you have i5 8400?

[@R3AL-AIM]

After watching this and comparing it to a PS4 or Xbox One, it's easy to see why the new consoles had to push RTX so hard. A cheap dual-core and budget GPU comes dangerously close in quality. When you are talking about dedicated gaming machines vs modern PC hardware, that's a bit funny. 10 years ago, this wasn't the case. You needed a much more expensive PC to do what the Xbox One could do.

[@michaelthompson9798]

Tbh, I’m quite surprised how well the Pentium performed in these titles and with the 6500XT…….. in additon the fact Intel still produces a dual-core (2C/4T) cpu today in 2023 (and at launch) 🤦🤦‍♀😱😂🤣😅!

[@BigBoss-kk4sr]

I believe that the low 1& and 0.1% on witcher 3 could be a result of shader compilation stutter. Running your benchmark a few more times should let you cache all the shaders required in that area and you shouldnt see such low dips. Love the channel and this series of videos, its crazy what a great time you can have with "low end" hardware these days

[@robertanderson5735]

Easily becoming one of my Favorite channels at the moment! 👍👍

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Thanks 😁

[@anurbanpenguin8890]

The 6500xt has some pretty decent performance it’s just a shame AMD kneecapped it so much with a terrible memory bus and PCI bandwidth as you discussed. Had they given it even a 96bit bus and 8x PCI lanes it would have been a fantastic budget choice, but as it’s a laptop part that’s had the living snot clocked out of it the higher PCIE lanes wasn’t an option without majorly reworking the silicone which they weren’t prepared to spent the money on so a half baked product went to market and was rightfully slated.

[@dyslectische]

Its how the core its self is make . The amd gpu have the same setup like hun cpu line Its use both the infinity bridge and on that the core and pci-e bus are connected. Faster gpu means a extra core connect on the bridge. That is the reason it beult up with 4x 8x and 16x pci-e slot. This is the reason the old Ryzen 2200g only have a 8x PCIe bridge for the external gpu . The igp is connect on the other 8x pci-e lane. Really a good thing amd have make but it have some smal problems on old pci-e 16x slot.

[@romakryvytsky8018]

Would be cool to see New gen of AMD 2 core CPU.

[@vmafarah9473]

Wow 2 core is killing it. If the game is running on cutdown windows 10 mod , you will get much better 1% low.

[@guyza123]

Good video, thanks for sharing!

[@ConfusedStu]

I'd be very interested in seeing how the RX handles Wreckfest, which in my experience on older systems, is massively affected by reduced PCI-E lanes.

[@Valfaun]

it's so nice that Intel supports both DDR4 and DDR5 on 12th and 13th gen parts. DDR5 is still in its transitional period and while prices have come down a bit, it remains expensive. meanwhile DDR4 is readily available on the cheap and a perfect fit for midrange systems and below

[@lukeslater6009]

Enjoyed the CPU and GPU combo video. When is the Core i9 13900K and RTX 4090 combo coming up? Lol.

[@another3997]

Having got my first computer, in my early teens, in late 1981, my idea of "playable" differs somewhat from most. An 8 bit CPU running at a few MHz and Kilobytes of RAM could make early "3D" games exciting even at 5fps! 😁 Today, if a game can hit 25fps consistently, I'm certainly not unhappy. 30fps consistently and I'm definitely happy. Anything above that is just a matter of bragging rights. 😉 I'd rather have a lower average, but very consistent frame rate than a high average with massive drops. When you're actually playing a game, so much detail just goes by unnoticed anyway.

[@khairuddinali727]

Was there a difference in performance when running The Witcher 3 in DX11 instead of DX12? The DX12 version is known to be heavy on the CPU because they're supposedly using Microsoft's DX11 to DX12 translation thingy

[@SpaceGamblerJR]

I think anything over 60 fps and you are good to go.💯 the ryzen 5 4500 has com back down it price and can be found as low as $78 US ❤

[@iwontpullup]

proud user of a g4560 here

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Awesome :)

[@gigchad527]

Guys guys hear me out this is an important and would help you out a alot if you own something similar of this system all you gotta do is to limit your fps to 60 or 30 which can greatly reduce your cpu stress and also improve the game stability according to the game so keep a lookout for that :)

[@philtkaswahl2124]

Remembering the days a dual core Pentium was the latest thing my kid self drooled over when reading computer / gaming related magazines makes having CPUs under that name in the "why not just get an i3" category these days makes me a bit wistful.

[@mihaicraciun8678]

those 2 cores are legends

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah for sure

[@GK_Squid]

I have a question, can I utilize shared memory on a GPU or is that something basically for integrated graphics? Could you possibly make a video on this if it is doable?

[@ryanmalin]

pretty sure thats only for integrated graphics

[@Spido68_the_spectator]

Shared memory can be used yes, but it happens only if you run out of VRAM first

[@darrens3494]

Duuuuuuuude, thanks so much for adding 2042 into your tests again, really appreciate it 😊 on that note, I'm also really surprised by the results, I expected far worse on that pentium. This whole benchmark was surprising actually. Love these kinds of videos

[@freddiejohnson6137]

I find most games that are still being made for the Xbox One and PS4 will run on most modern low end cpus at 1080p no problem when pared with a mid range GPU they tend to struggle at any resolution above that or on games that aim for more powerful hardware in general and that struggle on those two older base consoles.

[@assetaden6662]

Yay, I'm first The usage percentage is almost the same in all games. The most balanced low-end PC award?

[@baroncalamityplus]

Thanos would approve.

[@Loundsify]

What I did notice in this video was the RX6500 XT GPU load was only around 70-80% most of the time so some games would have definitely faired better with a 12100f or Ryzen equivalent.

[@punstartracer]

Honestly despite the bad reception the RX6500XT got for lacking flex features its pretty much the entry point for modern gaming. I used the card for a few months back when it was the only GPU you could buy for 180 US$, I ended up giving it to a friend and to this day we play Rainbow 6, GTA 5, Elden Ring and GTFO together. Hes picky with frames since he bought a 980 back when he had a stable job and he never whined about the card.

[@otozinclus3593]

I would like to see how the 6500xt would do with a 12100f

[@kshitijrastogi1]

It's a well performing card but I understand people don't buy this card often because of the missing encoder, all in all it performs well in modern games!

[@JPVolvo]

Imo you should try the DX11 mode on Witcher 3, it seems to give much better performance on lower end systems

[@briansrensen6603]

I know it would be quite a bit of work, but I think it could be interesting to check if it's a single setting that causes the 0.1% lows in one of the titles that's otherwise quite acceptable.

[@builder396]

Yeah, people truly overestimate the importance of core count over per-core performance, but Im still surprised a dual core can keep up regardless. So far I really thought quad cores were the lower end of whats servicable for typical games as thats been the default from the 2 Quads until Ryzen came out, and six cores is the sweetspot for a bit more future-proofing towards future games and sims that scale better with more cores. But I guess this goes to show that a lot of games still havent gotten to the point of scaling with that many cores (or threads) for their main CPU tasks, and really the main issue seems to be that loading in cant be done on its own core so it kind of stalls out the core that is supposed to do other heavy lifting, and I think thats happened with Apex Legends, and it normalized when the game ran out of things to load. Takes me back to the days of World of Tanks when that game defaulted to loading explosion effects from the drive only when the effect was needed, all to save on a bit of RAM and VRAM. The game did this regardless of settings and regardless of system specs, despite it clearly being an optimization that only benefits absolute potatoes. And the punchline was that this was before SSDs were common, and anyone with an HDD got seriously screwed over as the response time of the drive meant that the game would literally stutter in the moment it took to load the explosion effect. An effect thats usually needed in tense situations where the last thing you want is a stutter.

[@sff.f]

Had a E8400 and I bought the G7400 for a (iGPU only) project. I already thought of the RX 6400 as a nice GPU pairing xD 6:45 ... this is a common issue not exclusive to the G7400! Had it on a 1135G7 laptop BUT also with my R7 3700X... On a 240Hz monitor I'd lock Apex to 120FPS and stuff like Witcher 3 should run perfect with a 40FPS lock....

[@BGFighter100]

This wombo combo is actually on point, unfortunately probably the majority of gamers will go for AMD, AM4 provides 5 gens of cpu's on pretty much every board, cpu's like the R5 1600/R5 2600 currently go for about 45/50 euro where I live. Intel sucks because they change boards way too frequently and there is usually way less cpu's on the used market which are on the higher aspect of money...

[@meeeeooooww]

I was deterred from getting this GPU recently after reading it had big problems on PCIe 3.0 systems and really inconsistent performance from game to game, as well as the lack of GPU encoding for recordings and such. I have a decently powerful CPU, R5 5600 (not x) and decided to just go for GTX 1650 OC instead. I'm wondering if I'm an idiot for doing that or if I avoided a disaster, or missed some really obvious choice that I could've went for instead

[@williampaabreeves]

the obvious choice is used if you can. in countries with used markets, nothing new below the 3060 ti makes any sense tbh. the gtx 970 or 980 can regularly be had in the UK between £80-£130, and they crush the 1650. its not like a PSU capable of running older GPUs is huge money, 500-600w PSUs are brand new around £40, able to run everything pre RTX 30 as long as the CPU isn't a juicy Intel 10th i9 gen or newer. i've found as good as 880w PSUs on ebay UK for under £20

[@TheUnrivaledKING]

I don't think the 4100 should be considered, it would be better to save just a bit more for the 4500 instead, 6 cores and better performance over all

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah very true

[@Tokatlanmis]

Unfotrunately, the Ryzen 4000 series of chips are all PCIe 3.0. Even the 5000 chips up to the 5500 are PCIe 3.0. It might swap one bottleneck for another.

[@TheUnrivaledKING]

@@Tokatlanmis ooouuu, yea😩, but that's only if you're also using the 6500 xt....that can also be replaced with an rx 580 8gb

[@TheUnrivaledKING]

@Donald Nemesis Thinking about it, it should have had a few gpu cores with that type of CPU performance

[@Tokatlanmis]

@donaldnemesis1212 I believe the 4100 is basically the same chip as the 4300G but just with the iGPU disabled. Same number of cores, same cache, same boost.

[@tvdootman27]

The rx 6500 xt is a great card! ... for 720p with fsr enabled...

[@joemarais7683]

It’s a fantastic card for $120. It’s gonna be the modern 1050ti when all the suckers who bought it for $200 upgrade.

[@tvdootman27]

@@joemarais7683 true

[@johndoh5182]

4c/8t. More and more even that will be pushed to 100% moving to a line of newer games. I mean a Ryzen 5500 is $90 USD or was a couple weeks ago and that's 6c/12t and a B550 can be had for around $100 and that's a pretty solid gaming setup on the cheap. Just add any lower to mid range GPU and you're fine.

[@MrCommunistGen]

I'd be curious to see how much the games that really suffer, like Witcher 3 Next Gen, are compute limited by the 2C/4T design of the chip or if they're cache starved by the measly 6MB enabled on the Pentium. A follow up that'd be really interesting to me would be to take a higher end Alder Lake chip like a 12400, disable cores and underclock it to roughly match the G7400... but with triple (18MB) the L3 Cache.

[@Vaishnav360]

Will I get around same performance with g6400. How much the difference will be?

[@SyndicatesFollower]

You should really use Dx11 for witcher 3 testing as it produces much better results, the Dx12 wrapper that the next gen update uses is very broken and causes stuttering and a large performance degradation.

[@wheisenberg559]

A game alone with 100% cpu load might be an issue if you consider running TS3 or Discord while playing. A friend had an i5 6600 and those 4 threads were too weak for BF/CoD (Multiplayer) with voice chat.

[@DrearierSpider1]

As many reviewers pointed out at the time, it's crazy that AMD gimped their low end GPU in such a way as to make Intel your only option for low end CPU's. I guess the R5 5600 is priced like an R3 these days, but still.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah really odd. Have to see what we get with the next lineup of budget chips!

[@jakobmax3299]

They still have one of the cheapest reasonable cpus in the r5 4500. 6 zen2 cores for 77 euros.

[@DrearierSpider1]

@@jakobmax3299 The 5500 and 4500 were awful at the prices they launched at but have no doubt become a lot better deals with recent discounts.

[@sofianeb7830]

it's great to see BF2042 in the benchmarks especially since they did a lot in term of cpu usage optimization

[@DoomedGrind]

Those results are quite impressive considering the dollar and the hardware. Goes to show you don't need to spend big bucks just to play a few games

[@zephaniahgreenwell8151]

There will be no more "Pentium" processors in 2023. However, it is just a brand name, as the current CPUs have nothing to do with the old Pentiums.

[@hemantheer9738]

Hey RandomGamingInHD and other viewers. I'm currently trying to figure out how much CPU I really need. I currently have an i5-4690 with an RX 6700. What should I upgrade to? I want to get the most out of the GPU and CPU and don't want to overpay for performance that I won't use.

[@Josue31627]

The RX 6400 would've been a better more appropriate test methinks. Still not bad.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah just thought I’ve used that quite a bit haha

[@Josue31627]

Maybe even the GTX 1630 to be truly "new" low-end.

[@Josue31627]

I really hope the new Pentium gets the 4 cores. This one performs great despite the 2 cores and 4 threads only.

[@andyshtroymish4997]

RX6400 is weak enough to the point it doesn't care about PCI-E 4.0 anymore. So yeah, it basically IS better option for most of usecases. Still, if it's cheaper than, let's say, 1066 used locally, it can do some gaming in new systems 'till you have some papers for a real GPU.

[@raoufbakhti7786]

Hello i like this kind of vid but can you add more games like rust

[@Beisepimp]

I've expected much worse with the Pentium. We should get a 4 core / 4 thread pentium in the future..

[@Prellium]

I don't think anyone likes Motion Blur. Happy New Year Steve.

[@theanglerfish]

nice! pentium and 4 cores cpus are more suitable for internet browsing watching films but are capable to run some pretty demanding games thanks to IPC intel really shines in this performance tier so i love this type of content! keep going nice work thank you🤩

[@gureguru4694]

not surprised. the 4-CORE/8-THREADS - i3 12100/F handily trashed the 6-CORE/12-THREADS - Ryzen 5 5500 in games. Alder Lake's IPC is just amazeballs.

[@tomthomas3499]

Pretty surprising the abominable RX6500xt paired with lowest tier cpu can even run Elden ring and MW2 pretty well even RDR2 and spiderman, budget tier is still an option for pc gaming, since not all can fork out $50 more for better cpu/gpu, on many cases that $50 difference can mean changing your psu, changing cooler/case etc