Penuel The Black Pen In Conversation Dr. Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh, Dali Mpofu, AKA, Jacob Zuma, Oxford, UCT

[@_SMWX]

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[@tebogo81]

Thank you for coming to the Studio. We appreciate it. 🙏

[@Penuelism]

Thank you for being an amazing mind, and for also allowing us into your personal space 🙏🏽❤️

[@LesoloMaremo]

We need part two of this episode please gents.

[@mashuduthidiela9643]

Great interview, Sizwe! You truly have a fantastic mind. Was also good to know I’m not the only one whose parents gave them a complex marital setup to wrap their head around 😅

[@Wyt_Rabbit]

Thanks for opening up Sizwe, this was great 👍🏿

[@Penuelism]

Thank you to all of you that tune in every single week! We love you. We appreciate you! ❤️

[@mzekenamanjearistokasi6832]

Please invite Mcebo Dlamini.

[@enigma5703]

We love and appreciate your content

[@Wyt_Rabbit]

Thanks Penny this was great 👍🏿

[@karabopearl9527]

You're really exceptional in this podcast game.

[@icemapuma8899]

you amazing brother keep pushing Pen!!

[@100kshooter5]

That is my favorite quote: If you learn how to learn, you can learn anything. . .

[@Facts_Only_SA]

Penuel’s setting 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Color Combo (that green💯)🔥🔥🔥🔥 Camera angles🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@tumishomoshaba8954]

I am humbled by Sizwe`s admission for his people from the father`s side, education goes a long and hat off to his dad SC Dali Mpofu for taking time to groom this humble son of the Soil a PHD at 33 wow!!!!

[@SineMatokazi]

Sizwe controled the direction of this interview successfully! Great one gents!!

[@Sizabantu]

U can tell Sizwe is in love , the mention of it his teary already ,big ups Pen n Sizwe great show

[@nonkolo_faith]

I watch Sizwe all the time, but Penuel this was a masterpiece. You are amazing at this! I loved this interview and respect you and the good Dr Mpofu-Walsh! I love how you look up to and speak on your parents Dr. they have done such a great job with you.

[@25bpm33]

Watched this show today and when you requested Entity regroup for one last show, that brought me to tears. Sizwe, do the right thing gents. In memory of AKA.

[@nokuthulatana5653]

This is starting to be my go to channel. Earphones in and I work in peace, while taking in some knowledge and I'm loving it. Thank you Bhut Pen💕

[@khulasandethembalethu9561]

and i love it

[@boipelop6522]

Shout out to Pen and Siz. Great show ❤

[@Sphatrick96]

This is exactly why I'm a member of this podcast

[@Wyt_Rabbit]

This is the story I wanted to hear. Thanks for opening up Sizwe, this was great!

[@kevinandilemediahouse]

I legit enjoyed this brilliant episode with Sizwe Walsh-Mpofu. Such an intelligent person. Bigs ups to you Penuel for hosting him. Well done Gents

[@xolelangxabazi8628]

Thanks for bringing one of SA's young great minds. Always appreciate Dr Sizwe's views and opinions, they are thought through.

[@CornerHouse_Media]

Ok I’ll be the first to be humble and admit , I used to hate Penuel , I used to think Uyafosta like Mzekezeke ..but after watching these interviews, I can see a real Leader and an example in you brother , you have a gift of listening to fully understand, and your vast knowledge on things to be able to engage in outta here ..how you keep calm and content in the presence of very rich kids , or very intelligent people , and how you are still able to find your space to talk , encourage , and introduce a different view to them , is really something to be applauded.. shout out to you my dawg , you have gained my respect .

[@Penuelism]

You're a great person. Takes a great person to keep consuming someone you hate and open yourself up to give them a chance, and to humble yourself when you're wrong. I appreciate your comment, and wish you all the best things in life 🙏🏽❤️

[@Facts_Only_SA]

Penuel is genius Why were you hating

[@JabsMajozi]

Yhoooo!!! This is going to be historical. My two favourite thought leaders. I'd say influencers, but hey, they went to school and stuff. So yes, though leaders. Looking forward to this. (No shade on anyone intended😁)

[@khwezindlovu2101]

The Penuel Show with DR. Sizwe Mpofu-walsh 00:00 - Intro 00:05 - Welcoming in Dr. Sizwe - My mother 05:45 - Politics 09:40 - Mom's story 13:10 - Is it possible to acquire stolen properties 16:00 - Surnames 21:00 - My fathers presence & influence 25:50 - Thoughts on acquiring wealth & assets 28:25 - Mixed race children 35:30 - Oxford University 44:40 - Thoughts on knowledge 47:45 - Jacob Zuma 51:20 - My perception of Zuma 56:20 - Language & culture - Entity & AKA 1:07:25 - My other journeys 1:10:0 - Black excellence & poverty 1:13:00 - Mental health - Effects of fame 1:22:00 - Self identity crisis 1:24:18 - Marriage - Love 1:34:35 - ENDS

[@aphiweziwele2063]

Great content bro, can you please try and get Dr Lwazi Lushaba on the show man

[@terrymorake2104]

Powerful interview!!! Can’t wait for the next one “The Black Pen”

[@wendymapholo7313]

I love open minded conversations, this was excellent!!!

[@ThePrimeVID]

"if you learn how to learn, it doesn't matter if it is through formal education or not, the love of the pursuit of knowledge, is just as good as a rubber stamp from the highest education possible"... that was power!!.. ( paraphrase)

[@nomalizobiancamachete5454]

I loved the analogy of academics to media🤣

[@uyathandwagidigidi3515]

I have bad mentality of not listening to "Cheese Boys" but when Siz Spit I listen

[@goodwillsphiweandTeam]

Exe🤣😂

[@lesegoraikane9593]

This interview was a mindgasm for us who love knowledge Penuel we need more of Sizwe

[@nocturnalbeats1584]

And once again the black pen delivers quality, valuable and knowledge-based interview. Big ups to you Penual✊🏿✊🏿

[@Lindani_PastaG_Gumede]

Black Pen😃 thank you for bringing Dr Sizwe 🎉🤩. Truly such a great storyteller and wise leader.

[@tobelatwala9300]

Well done Penuel. Truly enjoyed the interview... & I do mean everything moment of it!!! Exceptional work my brother.

[@jacquelinepilane5254]

Very inspirational ❤❤

[@lungamasuku6872]

I wish uSizwe would release that album in honer of uAKA!,i really enjoyed this interview

[@user03819]

Sizwe and Penuel! South Africa is in good hands 🙌🏾, you guys are the future.

[@t.m4314]

Thanks Pen for making Sizwe aware that the 2nd & 3rd round of conversation is coming, its good to see him on the other side of the table sharing with us his personal journey can't wait for him to give his perspective on current affairs. Sizwe is an inspiration and make education look good big ups to Pen & team.

[@mzansipodcollective]

Two intelligent gents in the room. I love this episode ❤❤❤

[@khulasandethembalethu9561]

dude tell me about it...i wish there was a market we can meet and just deliberate with each other man...love this episode

[@mzansipodcollective]

@@khulasandethembalethu9561 that would be dope. Dope guys too

[@andilentuli8261]

Great interview,so sad to hear about the death threats

[@siyabulelazitame210]

Yoh honestly ever since I started watching these two on both channel my vocabulary is slowly improving, Thank you Gents for sharing your wisdom with us, keep good work coming.

[@lloydmpofu4359]

Thanks for bringing Sizwe in your platform. Thanks for co-signing him sounds Weird because he should be the one Co-signing you given the years he has been around

[@lungamasuku6872]

Iam so Impressed by Sizwe!!!!❤❤❤❤he just made my top ten of most important Africans!

[@sbonelo01]

Can you share your full list

[@qumbupodcast5180]

First time I pay attention to this guy it when he was interviewing Jacob Zuma and noticed how respectfully he is.

[@Mrtdogg101]

Pen you are GOATed with this pod and shoutout to Sizwe...you definitely should share your dad and mum's stories.

[@pointa2b388]

34 minutes into the interview, i like both of you a lot. I love Sizwe's mom with all i have, she is the greatest in my opinion. Watching this though therr are pockets of awkwardness that keeps popping, someone is not completely free.

[@ryanvandermerwe5587]

I was getting second hand nervousness when he talked about the Doctorate.... Man's a goat for dat🤙🏼💯

[@ayandamakhephe8215]

Wooow...that was a very great conversation..more of these plz.. I like how the show starts and ends...no music nothing a rare podcast path😂

[@leratolitlhakanyane8445]

This is hands down one of the best interviews I've listened to. 👏👏👏

[@khulasandethembalethu9561]

It's always mind blowing to see young intellects in their prospective beliefs engaging with each other.

[@mawandedlamini617]

Intelligent men....... social intelligence is absolutely necessary in our time...... bcz before we fight let us be aware and awake..... intellect .....is key

[@tumoZAVlog]

I always ask myself why entity broke up ⏩⏩thank you so much all the way from Houston Texas 🇺🇸🇿🇦

[@thulanenkosi9278]

Once again great show

[@interestingtimespodcastsa]

Lovely! Thank you gents. This was really great!!!

[@tiisetsomoleko7503]

Masterpiece. The questions. The answers. The insights. Thanks again Ntate

[@ntombikayisemngomezuludina9423]

This is the content we live for! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@duaneselwyn]

I just finished watching your conversation with Sizwe on SMWX, what a high quality exchange of thoughts. No doubt that you voice is becoming revelant to the modern South African narrative.

[@ayandasibanisezwedlomo3269]

Rewatching this, I love this episode so much!

[@openminded1957]

Enjoyed this, Big ups gents. Two great minds

[@simonmohlabane119]

Thank You @godpenuel for bringing us these powerful stories ... Please keep them coming! If it wasn't for you some us wouldn't know and understand what we NOW know and understand. Dankie Penuel!!!

[@vusimuzihadebe5677]

Thanks for the interview gentleman's ✌

[@anthonyfry7430]

Thanks for putting yourselves out there. Living in the USA at the moment and feeling homesick. Amazing to feel like there is a 'culture' in which I feel comfortable. And that this young 'culture' is finding its voice. As a young father, I would love you two to explore that area of your lives and where you get the wisdom which informs your decision making in that realm.

[@derickarendse9546]

Penuel the most exciting podcast. Siswe is a very humble man. I always follow his podcast interviews with high powered politicians. Now I know his interesting history. Keep up the good work.

[@Khigha87]

Loving the quality of discussions on display here and the diversity in thought. Well done Pen! Thank you for sharing Doc 👌🏽

[@mzansifootball585]

Great Interview Pen, It is One of my Favorite 2023 Episode in the Podcast Space...✊

[@desmondjuniorphala1261]

Well-rounded interview! This was super refreshing, cannot wait for P2 & P3!

[@rotshidzwamudzanani1210]

Thank for a dope conversation, looking to hear more from Sizwe in this platform and his platform.

[@manny8042]

We are here. My fav Duo

[@siyabongazamisa2303]

great minds...great convo

[@mclovin1071]

Omw, i had no idea that Dr. Sizwe is Muslim. Thats fantastic 🤩

[@MentalFacility-u7o]

It's amazing to see someone who doesn't make their religion their whole personality. That's dope.

[@DiegoClipsWorldWide]

Shout out to pen and the team man. You are doing an excellent job please bring more academias on the show we are really learning a lot. shout to Dr Mpofu-Walsh great guy brilliant mind heres to making Education cool again. Ke ntwana Skraal and I love the fact that Pen actually knows Hammanskraal. Otle kasi ro bethise ndiya dawgie.

[@litebohomonyaka1910]

Thanks again Pen beautiful I loved it

[@lefakele5350]

Yo, shout out to Sizwe for bring us into the process of being a Doctor at the highest level. Gives us great perspective

[@wisanimaluleke8441]

Thank you Penuel. I have been a fan of Dr Sizwe Walsh Mpofu from the time he release his first, which I bought. I have been following his KZbin channel for long time, we use to get his updates through whatsapp.

[@motlalepulemokhine6709]

Oh my word!!!!! Incredible conversation! Penuel my brother, you are brilliant. I admire your great ability to ask questions and to create a warm atmosphere for your guests. Fascinating to get to learn more about Sizwe . So this was recorded before AKA's passing, unbelieavable.

[@bulelanimama1961]

Dr Sizwe articulate

[@filmtrvlr]

Great EP @SiwzeMpofu-Walsh ... Pen we need you on SMWX talking SA Politics right now and in the future.

[@verenciasehurutshi1573]

We really appreciate you.

[@khulekani_ndlovu]

Mr Pen I love those direct questions 😅, and the relevance. I wanna see you on the other end of the table on Sizwe's podcast as well

[@samrorwana3050]

Thank you gentlemen. I’ve been in tune with both your work. @SMWX since that Pr Zuma interview and Black Pen not sure which podcast but been following both because i identify with the way you both think and i’ve been patiently waiting for this episode so thank you. My dad is a from the old Transkei defence(before it was SANDF we know now) force and before 1994 he was sent with a scrambler bike to the villages to register peoples ages for IDs. The oldest person in the home would have to recall a memory of a war,a certain star or occasion they were born in to try and track how old they were, the grandmother would track back to when she had her first period to track her first born’s age. B Pen you spoke about surnames and their relevance or irrelevance and that is also something new as age is. As much as people will always be different, people will always be the same, you will never know somebody until you meet them(like former pres JZ). We are still living with a plague called colour. What we all need to realise is that whatever has been done to you, you cannot wear as a badge of shame, it is our responsibility to look at our lives, take responsibility for it then begin to change it ,and you gentlemen are on the right track. I cant wait to get my hands on Dr Mpofu Walsh’s book and i think i’ve read most of the books i’ve heard B Pen reference so i’ll leave you with a few of my fav you might or might not have read. 1.Prof Ngugi Wa Thiongo - Decolonising the mind 2.Peter Davis Darkest Holywood 3.James Baldwin The Fire Next time(also watch his debate with William F. Buckley) My mission vimeo.com/759868086

[@thatodivinelanga]

Dope conversation, wholesome and educational. I didn't know Somizi (Crocodile) was Doja Cat's dad 🤣🤣

[@princehlungwane35]

Doja's Dad is Dumisani Dlamini🤣🤣🤣

[@wizzyhlatshwayo8740]

I just listened to that Sizwe diss track and he's good 👍 👌

[@alimsimanga5326]

Assalaam Alaikom Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuhu brother Sizwe may ALLAH TA'ALA keep you safe, and protect you, and keep you upright believer, (Muslim)

[@Wyt_Rabbit]

The comment about private school kids is hectic. I'm a PK (private school kid) and I can relate to the mental health challenges. Can't wait for that conversation.

[@noxxonbeat1193]

I'm halfway through this interview & I have a new respect for Sizwe, big ups Pen!

[@howlers_corner]

We here marking the register. 🔥🔥🔥

[@DollyOliphant]

This content is wow!!!!!

[@thabisomagampa9845]

This episode spoke to me man, it reminded me of how much i love academics thank you for that Pen and a big shoutout to Dr mSizwane for sharing his journey. i had planned to take a gap year this year to focus on other things but i can juggle school so ya'll are the reason why i'm heading back to chowing course and continuing my journey to the highest level possible.🙃

[@Penuelism]

This is brilliant 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽❤️

[@mthokozisimyende787]

This has been a long time coming Syabonga bafethu #spreadthefire

[@nomkhosixulugama1089]

Siyabonga Dokotela Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh. Siyabonga kuDokotela wodokotela Penuel, the Black Pen, kubonga udokotela ongajovani!

[@Penuelism]

😂😂😂

[@juankoen885]

I've been waiting for this one This two are black excellence

[@Shenge93]

Siyabonga bafo wethu ngokudla kwendlebe

[@Tefo_Mathibe]

Thank you for the information and knowledge

[@mthobisi6624]

Baba kaNkunzi we need to remind you Penuelists don't have a signature ....keep it going Penzo 🔥🔥🔥

[@tebogomaphefomodiba4232]

Nice interview. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

[@tebogo81]

We are ready

[@22libra70]

I LOVE THE WAY YOU MOVE MLOTYWA YOU BRING US BEST OF THE BEST, THE SO CALLED CELEBRITIES CAN GO ELSE WHERE,WE FINE WITH THE SMART BRAINS AND GOOD STORIES,REAL RECOGNIZE REAL ❤

[@maveej8443]

Beautiful interview. Well done Pen and Sizwe!

[@pointa2b388]

The second part was nuch better, Sizwe is brilliant

[@vuyelwamaguga3810]

Amazing interview!

[@zibusenimalinga3275]

Awesome content always & work put in by You & your team👌👌👌

[@onkewakaba8274]

I hope people like this brother do not eventually choose to leave SA cause of the current state of this country cause we need people of such wisdom....and you Penuel as well. I'm so proud of you bro, funny enough cause I do not know anything about you but only that you're from Newcastle and you went to Rhodes...maybe it's cause you studied here in the Eastern Cape and anyone that has lived in this province knows how hard it must be to me it to those levels you are today. I'm proud and I'm a bit a jealous as well cause I feel like a failure in life, I'm 36 and I've only completed my undergrad degree now. I live in a shack, my life is a mess and I feel like I don't even know where I'm going I'm so confused cause I'm getting older and life just keeps getting harder for me. I don't know if I should further my studies or look for employment. I drive a local mini taxi for survival. .eish when I was younger and full of life I thought I was destined for something greater...

[@onkewakaba8274]

I meant to make it to those levels

[@rotshidzwamudzanani1210]

Can't wait

[@loyisovabaza9893]

Much respect ❤

[@nhlanhlatumane3240]

Great stuff 🙌🏿🙌🏿

[@ZIZLISTO]

Amazing interview, keep it up Gents...

[@riazoliphant3493]

Been waiting for this collab for somw time😭

[@happym3585]

What an amazing interview 🔥

[@ditababoshiane7940]

Well done Pen, but your team should know how to handle water bottle,not on the lid.