“People Are Fed Up” | Julia Hartley-Brewer vs Mick Lynch On Railway Privatisation

RMT General Secretary Mick Lynch says "no privatisation has been successful" as Labour plans to renationalise the railways.
A Labour government would expect to transfer the 10 remaining privately run rail networks to public ownership “well within the first term” by folding existing private passenger rail contracts into a new body as they expire, Louise Haigh said at a launch event.
Kicking off her announcement at Trainline headquarters in central London, the shadow transport secretary said the UK deserves “to be proud” of its rail legacy.
She said that under the plan, the taxpayer would save £2.2 billion annually, but said she did not have agreement from shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves that all of those savings could be invested back into the railways.
Mick says: “Train operating companies haven’t invested a penny in railways in 30 years. We’ve subsidised them while they’ve taken £10bn in profit.”
#labour #micklynch #juliahartleybrewer #talktv

[@timq8470]

Mick Lynch always talks sense.

[@progmod49]

As soon as the trains are nationalised, This commie arse will have them all out and we the people will be shafted AGAIN.

[@topgazza]

Keep taking the drugs

[@JSmith19858]

Watching Hartley-Brewer taking on Mick Lynch is like watching a Labrador take on a freight train

[@user-jh3zy4xx5e]

😂😂😂

[@dannyush]

Whose the freight train?

[@JSmith19858]

@@dannyush who does it belong to? The leasing company, I guess

[@dannyush]

@@JSmith19858 noice

[@JSmith19858]

@@dannyush you meant to type 'who is', mush

[@orionnebula1136]

"I don't support any particular party" Sure, Julia

[@stevenhoward3358]

I think she must have done her thesis on the culture wars, but graded 2-2 at best

[@rjw4762]

She has admitted to voting Labour in the past. She hates this Conservative Government. She is not partisan - unless being anti-woke/far-left is considered such.

[@geoffreyparsons4353]

She supports money

[@morizwan123]

She's a Tory

[@stevenhoward3358]

@@morizwan123 If it quacks like a duck...

[@thomasnixon1270]

She is trying to punch above her weight. No match at all for Mick Lynch.

[@antonyeastham4564]

A knowledgeable, time served, professional with no bullshit. He has answers for all TV interviewers. I'd take Micks point of view over any politician every time.

[@TheTwosliceToaster]

I usually avoid watching Julia, but Mick Lynch changed my mind in this instance. As always, he was talking perfect sense. It's also good to see Corbyn being vindicated on her channel. His policies were exactly what this country needed then, and it's what it needs even more now.

[@djmartin5240]

Agree 100%..

[@johnwright9372]

Corbyn was destroyed by the media with a big helping hand from the Pro Israel lobby and its false claims he was anti Semitic.

[@danamba7]

Facts

[@anglodoomer5995]

Renationalising rail is common sense

[@paulyoung5514]

All interviewers are very careful around Mick now as he has destroyed them en masse.

[@RayHigh4708]

Mick Lynch for PM.

[@drb-tb1lh]

Brexiteer... no thanks

[@johnwright9372]

He should be running the railways.

[@Miguel...160]

​@@drb-tb1lh his version of Brexit is nothing like the right wing scum that caused it.

[@turkeytwizzler8872]

God help us

[@Gary-le7dz]

The railways are NOT privatised they receive HUGE taxpayers subsidies …. Yet ceo s and shareholders take huge salary’s dividends

[@OKnotOK09]

That doesn't mean they aren't privatised. It just means the profit is going to private hands.

[@shabbaranks7968]

That's because privatisation doesn't work.

[@Miguel...160]

Fartley Sewer knows she's way out of her depth when talking to Mick. She's behaving herself here, but the slime in her very being is bubbling away here...horrible woman.

[@jimmeltonbradley1497]

It must be difficult for people like Hartley-Brewer to have admit that privatisation hasnt worked.

[@johnwright9372]

She doesn't admit it. She is saying real privatisation would have worked, without giving any idea how. She talks gibberish.

[@johnwright9372]

She doesn't admit it. She is saying real privatisation would have worked, without giving any idea how. She talks gibberish.

[@user-yx8yg3hc5k]

When anybody quotes facts she hasn’t a clue how to respond,this guy is brilliant,

[@jungletiger1900]

Julia had to be careful with Mick as you can see.

[@darrenwicks5772]

I have noticed that many interviwers are quite intimidated by Mick Lynch and for good reason. He is very knowledgeable about his subject matter, he tells the truth and he does not need votes so does not play the political game. We need more of him.

[@neillscannell9278]

Continuous muttering across Mick Lynch every time he made a point tantamount to sneering.

[@billysalter953]

this shows how poor Hartley brewer is and talk tv need to remove her this is embarrassing to watch as normal Mick takes the media apart

[@BR-qf3wq]

Brewer got Lynched.

[@tommyhughes2264]

Brewer met her match.

[@Simple_Slmon]

To be fair she would struggle to outsmart a dog, so Mick Lynch was probably feeling relaxed.

[@adambaker629]

​@@Simple_Slmon😂

[@IsSalty]

She’s met her match thousands of times, she’s just very good at spinning and obfuscating and her followers are too stupid to fact check her.

[@jonathanfoster2568]

Renationalising our strategic assets is vital in the dangerous Europe we now find ourselves in. Electricity,gas,water and the railways have been stripped to the bone ,provide a substandard service, and are vulnerable to attacks from malign forces. We need massive investment in our national infrastructure.

[@XelaMa]

Thank god! Best decision to be put forward for decades! Can't wait, its like the Wild Wild West out there.

[@dougie6886]

Well said mike, respect to you.

[@bjgranger5834]

What a brilliant man well done Mick

[@johnm7267]

Hartley Brewer no match for Mick

[@user-yx8yg3hc5k]

When mick was explaining all the facts of the failures of the railways she sat there open mouthed,I bet she was thinking who the hell got me to interview someone who really knows what he is talking about,

[@run2cat4run]

Private companies are doing great at making a lot of money

[@ewancarmichael3412]

Yes. Our hard earned tax money.

[@JohnCl]

I would have Mick as the Transport Minister in a Labour Government.

[@johnwright9372]

He wouldn't work under Starmer and his centrist gang of cronies.

[@grah84mck]

She got well and truly OWNED. Well done Mick. Keep the good work up!

[@ngiles1000]

She tried, o how she tried , but didn’t quite manage to dump it on him. Have to sharpen her fangs. Poor gal

[@ngiles1000]

The Lynch Man !

[@davidogilvie1902]

I don't follow a political party... Not now that your beloved Tories are on the way out. Forever a grifter and a charlatan is Hartley-Brewster.

[@adamgrimsley2900]

The problem with Mick is that he knows his stuff and isn't scared of offending a group that he disagrees with.

[@tiredoftorylies.2950]

Never seen her so meek!!

[@user-lh9ei6he1h]

Have to agree jhb didn't want to mix it with Mick. Walk in the park. ( S)he even claimed no party affiliation!!

[@jackhadroom4540]

But she doesn't have a party affiliation.

[@matchfactoryman]

Mick for PM

[@theflashbaby]

Different class, mick speaks in common sense and logically makes points clear. Julia just had to sit and nod along. Brilliant

[@richardbanker3910]

You actually had Julia Hartley Brewer being somewhat conciliatory but as soon as she doubled back on this, Mick Lynch was straight in there.

[@burtleboeuf1429]

"the railways are used by people who are, generally, better off than the average taxpayer? " What absolute shite is she talking here? Obviously doesn't commute to work on a train.

[@user-lh9ei6he1h]

Bus services in the north lakes are run by a few volunteers appearing only twice a week in some cases. It's a scandal that old people have to rely on these services and the generosity of villagers with cars. Soon such areas will be inhabited predominantly by the wealthy And a few hardworking locals. Governments have ignored these areas for decades.

[@philipjones9458]

Talk TV off air from next week. On KZbin and Internet. Ratings will hopefully plummet.

[@Joekd6.1]

Its ratings were already rock bottom 😂

[@AlBowly]

Nice to see Aunt Sally a bit quieter today.

[@Cashback13]

"We got the Worst of Privitisation" What the heck is the 'Best of Privitisation; in terms of public services they aren't a limitless market across the world where multi organisations can come in and spread the options for the consumer thus keeping prices down to try and get custom. This is a service in one country alone, and is based on lines bought and regions, they aren't directly 'competing' against each other because there's all different train times and customers won't choose one company over another just because of the company itself, more just who's offering the cheapest fare at the time they need the service. (Or they don't have any flexibility at all and just have to go with who can get them there at the time they need to be there at their destination) Hardly the same as going to dinner or the pub or the cinema or the shops at places that are have the same opening hours is it? (Where customers go and use the service when it suits them)

[@Mike_5]

Julia Hartley Brewer probably drove her expensive vehicle in for this interview but sadly not everyone has that privilege as Mick Lynch correctly and very politely tries to point out to her

[@GavinScrimgeour]

I believe JHB gets driven to work each day.

[@andrewelliott4436]

"Probably" is guesswork. Using "probably" here is simply I'll - informed juvenile malice.

[@Mike_5]

@@andrewelliott4436 Grow Up

[@Mike_5]

@@GavinScrimgeour Yes that makes sense so she doesn't have to travel with Riff Raff

[@GavinScrimgeour]

@@Mike_5 Apparently she swears like a trooper 😂

[@user-zj2yb1qt3d]

Someone who doesn’t know what there talking about, but think they do. Too someone who does know what they are talking about. Lol😂 Julia ……. I’m not a Tory ……. Ye right 😂

[@jackhadroom4540]

But she isn't...

[@OKnotOK09]

​@jackhadroom4540 she's definitely on the right-wing though.

[@paulmarshall4793]

Keep getting this man on gbbies and talksh1t

[@paulsmith9418]

Good question Mr lynch, what are you Julia!

[@geraldbutler5484]

Privatisation without rigorous competition is a”nice little earner” for shareholders. Even with competition it can be detrimental. Australia had the Commonwealth Bank which was everywhere and owned by the people. It kept the other private bank bastards honest.

[@lenpowell6152]

Dont take on Mick he will make mincemeat of you Brewer mind you most people would.

[@dannyush]

I ain't socialist. But a service that everyone uses shouldn't be be holding to share holders

[@SajidHussain-lj5mr]

Mick is a very nice Man 👍

[@georgeatkinson759]

She implies there is good and bad privatisation...the old Brexit argument applied to trains...

[@gingertom2355]

JHB wibbling on about something she REALLY knows nothing about while the expert, and Mick Lynch does know what he's talking about is there to listen. How he manages to keep a straight face is quite brilliant.

[@jezedwards3858]

Well done Julia for asking good questions and well done Mick for giving factual answers.

[@broadcast-east]

Oh dear Jhb, met her match

[@LeMerch]

Takes a straight talking Irishman. Good man Mick.

[@richsmart321]

They need to be announcing the same for Water companies & then energy companies. Reality is most energy companies are owned by the state anyway - well other states such as France, Hong Kong etc.

[@nicks4934]

Lynch is great for his members. He hates the EU. So meh

[@ronholfly]

Are we going back to British Rail? If so I will get my spotter books out.

[@anglodoomer5995]

nobody cares boomer

[@martinreed9565]

They need to national all railways in UK this should include HS1 HS2 Crossrail and welsh valley and train leasing company and all Fright company's.and Heathrow link. if Sir Kier Billionaire dose not nationals the rolling stock leasing company's cost will spiral out of control for train we paid for given to Private company's for 3p.

[@akaxboxoddboiock9792]

In Cardiff they closed the Bus Station outside the train station and BBC built their new studios there and guess what,still no Bus Station in Cardiff the capital of Wales

[@DOCTORDROTT]

correct, screwed up a good system thanks to WAG LABOUR run

[@peterbury1934]

Pay all train drivers £250,000-00 per year and have done with it.

[@tomgreene1843]

Mick can point to how efficiently the health service is being run as the shining example of state management....he might also add in the post office .

[@OKnotOK09]

Would that be the NHS that has had the private sector take on more and more responsibilities and taking profit out of it?

[@kennethgilby4870]

The rail system in the uk is total crap, filthy overcrowded carriages, trains never on time, arrogant and ignorant staff, crumbling stations, overpriced tickets, the train company owners are only interested in squeezing as much cash as they can out of passengers

[@carcav13]

You're right, we are fed-up. With you lot.

[@jamiet2262]

Doubt the Railways will get any better any time soon. We couldnt even build one new line HS2. Where are all the new Trains/Lines/Stations/Power installations etc going to come from.....Private Companies!

[@ChrisArmstrong-qn1ob]

That’s a first for Julia mick just told her how it is he’s to good for the media yet again 👍

[@steffanjennyburrup5801]

It's a waste of time talking to him 😮....hates the government and tories ...the railways are going bust...no matter who runs them...

[@poots4936]

why is Mick not PM

[@geoffreyparsons4353]

Because he's not part of the larceny Club

[@leslierussell6812]

Worst railwail system in Europe due to unions and strikes bloody joke the whole system

[@user-by4wm4ro4y]

Well said Mick👍

[@raphaelnik]

Julia Hartley-Brewer is a muppet

[@briankerrison8504]

That’s Julia told 🥴🥴😂😂😂😂😂😂😎

[@stuartwood5448]

There is no way the fares will be reduced and investments will dry up - the tracks and signal are already owned by the government and main issues of delays and strikes are caused by this side of the equation- Under government ownership will will just get more incompetence

[@johnmulligan912]

Why? Are we so incompetent in this country? Because it’s ok for French,German state train companies to own parts of our infrastructure! Just not the British people!

[@indibhart5731]

They are careful of Mick because he knows his subject and when he speaks the majority listen with vigour!!!

[@johnh9254]

To be fair the service and rolling stock on my train line has never been better. However, it is significantly more expensive these days, must be a 20% increase in the last few years.

[@patdaly1167]

julias party of choice would be likud

[@philipjones9458]

She's marching this Saturday

[@elvisvaughan8690]

Julie ask the question and shut your mouth and listen to the answer

[@colinpenaluna9268]

Mick talked about the bus services all area's didn't have to go private it was the Councils decision to do this and it was due to the costs of running the bus services I remember the days when there were buses ran every 15 mins and you had a chance of 3 or 4 buses So Mick can you explain why Councils had gone private

[@johnmulligan912]

Because I think Thatchers government deregulated all the bus services in the country,apart from LONDON which is why they have such a good integrated transport system . Unlike every other part of the country.

[@user-nb6bj5ep8e]

The power the unions will have scares me

[@djkeety1]

Cheaper fairs, better service, you must be shitting yourself

[@user-jh3zy4xx5e]

He should be PM

[@jssonstevens59]

How can you have competition on rail. You going to get Clarksons sports train on the network

[@erickortenbach4355]

I would LOVE for the railways to be back in state ownership but we need a proper structure and clear funding model. Same for busses. Transport (and utilities) are the basics for us, the people, to make a living. If it runs properly (on time, no excuses etc) then it will be used more but it needs to be reliable!! RELIABLE!!! the key word. I live in Newcastle and the local MEtro is SHOCKING!! You just cannot rely on it. So you moan, complain etc but nothing changes. We need to put the basic back within the taxpapers control i.e. government and we will all be happier for it. Living in the UK right now is extremely depressing. Why? Why! We deserve better.

[@dannyush]

Ii like the bloke but he can't see the wood for the trees

[@tahersheikh8423]

Julia's hair doesn't move, I think it's sprayed on

[@DAVIDSHEILS-fs1og]

....just like her smile!

[@fintamaria2429]

😮😮😮😮

[@TheDiana1]

She's a Tory lover!!!. We all know this why is she lying is she ASHAMED of them like the rest of the country 😂😂😂!!!!.

[@PaulMartin-ut9lj]

The title of this video is misleading.

[@johnwright9372]

Hartley Brewer talks arrant nonsense, only to be expected of Talk TV's political agenda. How can a railway company have competition? How can it not be a monopoly? Are you going to have several railway lines running alongside each other? Can several water companies put their own pipes into each area? Privatisation was carried out for ideological political reasons with little or no consideration for practicality. Mick Lynch is full of common sense.

[@philiproscoe2968]

so a government suddenly has a "windfall" of say £1 Billion. What should they spend it on ? New Hospital ? New School ? More Trains . OR A BLAST FURNACE ? THAT'S why business should be run BY business. Faaaarrr too many points of fact involved here for a simple TU Rep to understand. Thats why he gravitated towards the Union side, rather than getting better at his proper job.

[@gHGhej]

Yes, a person working in the field for decades knows nothing 😂 You are a serious person, yes you are lol

[@neilmchardy9061]

The railway as run by private enterprise is an unmitigated disaster so your claim that business men should run business is about as valid as Sunak being for the people.

[@leeskinka]

It’s a service not a business and should be run as such. Surely you don’t need to be told how well run services would benefit business and the economy? If you had a proper job you would understand.

[@philiproscoe2968]

@@leeskinka YOU are the one who hasn't got a clue and is living in dream world. All you said above is correct - IN THEORY. Not in the real world I'm afraid and thats why it went so badly in the 60's and 70's you muppet. FYI - I was international Sales Manager on a 6 figure salary when I retired, so over to you BIG BOY.

[@philiproscoe2968]

@@gHGhej 🤣 Come back when your IQ exceeds your shoe size 🙄

[@stevepeake3427]

Surely Mr Lynch, you're old enough to remember Leyland cars, a nationalised car maker. There's lots other examples of how poor nationalised company perform. I am as I'm sure you are, to remember the disastrous Labour governments of the 70s. I guess you want that back again.

[@johnmulligan912]

But that’s not anything to do with what they are talking about. They are talking about infrastructure. Steve you really must have your head in the sand,if you think that keeping the railway,water etc in private hands is a good idea. Regarding the Labour government back in the 70s, the damage this corrupt Tory government has done to this country is staggering.

[@user-pm3ud3mz3t]

I am old enough to remember British Rail and it was a terrible experience. Dirty trains that were frequently late and cancelled far too often. Rude and surly staff. The sandwiches served on trains were frequently the butt of comedians jokes given they were truly awful. We had strikes too back then. Lots of them.

[@glenquinn6853]

The unions will run liebour party

[@johnmulligan912]

What ever you say Tory boy! 😂

[@user-nb6bj5ep8e]

Don’t forget the mess that was made when we had a public railway service, it will happen again

[@adamgrimsley2900]

Corbyn was a disaster

[@carolabrams3329]

It was the folk of this country that chose a disaster of a government Corbyn give you a choice

[@MdJ197]

This Julia is a strange man. He is a bad talk TV host 🤦🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️

[@davidpayne3938]

Driverless trains is the answer, you can't stop Union strikes otherwise..😉

[@colintait7139]

Mick is a bit greedy and selfish .....

[@thomasoflaherty3520]

Know him do you?

[@colintait7139]

@@thomasoflaherty3520 Do you....

[@nigelbaxter7050]

Did you read that in the daily fail?

[@colintait7139]

He is only out for himself and his members it's time they got off there arse and do the job they are overpaid to do .....

[@edwardgibb1453]

​@@colintait7139are you thick looking out for his membership is exactly the job he is paid to do it's them who pay his wages

[@Decommissioned-45]

labour will u-turn