People Are Their Principles (The Way We Were, S. Pollack, 1973)

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@winter_s_44 Жыл бұрын

This was the scene that made me understand Hubbel a little more deeply. He wasn’t just a “complacent capitalist” or a “pragmatic conservative” as other commenters have stated. He also overall understood the futility in the “political spats” that crop up routinely. He knew the pattern: issue arises, touted as serious, lives destroyed, things magically return to normal with no real indication of why the “spat” happened in the first place. When he said that, I understood where he was coming from. It was like we would call now a fabricated fire or culture war that people (or the system) use to distract us that really doesn’t mean anything. Whereas to Katie, everything held deeper meaning and was indicative of how far depravity could go if not stopped early on. So he was viewing it as the smokescreen of the moment and she was viewing it (as she viewed everything) as the start of the end of human rights. This was the scene that made me get he wasn’t just complacent, he actually just believed in the futility of it all and chose to focus on what was actually important and not get distracted by the smoke and mirrors of life and society. Before I was “on Katie’s side,” but I eventually realized neither of them is actually wrong. They just hold different viewpoints and they are both actually right.

@nancyhey1012 11 ай бұрын

@Likethesilenceoflight There are also indications in the movie that Hubble grew up in a more privileged situation than Katie did. That probably affected their different perspectives on “what really matters”.

@brunelladelcorso8714 6 ай бұрын

@@nancyhey1012😅

@SnowLeopardForever Ай бұрын

Kate was right to take things, politics seriously. And to think those things meant the end of the world. Hubble made fun of Hitler, and Mussolini thinking it not a big deal, who they were and what they did. THEN later on in history we find out Hitler and Mussolini unlived millions of people.😢

@jessicazeller8060 5 жыл бұрын

Best scene in the entire movie. I can’t believe “People are their principles” was almost cut.

@neilmodino9284 4 жыл бұрын

The best scene and the most painful scene that ruined their relationship.

@eldiran2 4 жыл бұрын

One of the best scenes in an underappreciated/misunderstood movie, boasted as 'a romance' when, really, it is about politics and 2 diverging aspects of American society in the early-to-mid 20th century--she representing a socialist Ideal and he the complacent Capitalism that would ultimately win out, Opposites attract, yes, but will not survive side-by-side if they have any integrity, which SHE does, and why it ends so tragically for their 'romance'.

@jessicazeller8060 4 жыл бұрын

eric russell I agree. It’s my favorite movie, but I would have liked to see more of the cut political scenes included because it’s not just another romance.

@perlita1212 3 жыл бұрын

He's a pragmatic conservative.

@nancyhey1012 3 жыл бұрын

@@perlita1212 I don’t think so. I think it was more a matter of him just looking out for his own career rather than him standing on any principles, conservative or otherwise.

@lepetitchat123 3 жыл бұрын

It's like a hardcore vegan dating a carnist. It will never end well

@nancyhey1012 11 ай бұрын

@Likethesilenceoflight and that all would have been clear to the audience, if the cut scenes had been left in.

@Autostade67 Жыл бұрын

Streisand and Redford are perfectly cast in these roles and act them to the edge of their formidable abilities - and that's what makes this film perennially fascinating - they were both such superstars at the time that the incandescence we, the audience, wire into fame, prevents them from entirely disappearing behind Hubbell and Katie, hence the film's aura of a romance over a harder edged realist piece were two unknowns cast in the roles. Don't get me wrong, its still a fantastic film (Redford's astonishingly adept timing is out in full force). It would be interesting to see how the film is received by younger viewers who were not fully immersed in the Redford/Streisand FAMEmania of the early and mid-70s.

@petradevries8839 Жыл бұрын

she is a verry strong person what a sad relationship that they didnt understand each other. she good have more listen to him. but i think he didnt listen to her at all. two different worlds. verry good movie. the most dissturbing thing of him was that. he is not a father for his child. a divorce oke. but a child. that is verry bad. he good have taken his responsibility.

@editherman.2555 3 жыл бұрын

What a statement! The best part in the whole movie!

@debbiepfisterertrusophisticate 3 жыл бұрын

Two intelligent people in a relationship. This shows he was not just a pretty face

@shwethageorge4620 5 ай бұрын

People are their principles. If only it were true, the world would be one great university.

@jamesmurray3128 4 жыл бұрын

It's a hard call. What scenes to cut and what scenes to leave in. It's not a documentary. You can't give the audience all the answers. You have to leave some things open to inturpritation. To leave the audience asking more questions. It's a good movie, but yes the two scenes that Barbara and Pollock are talking about should have been included, in my opinion.

@vivianaionty8331 7 ай бұрын

Wowooooooooooooo 😂❤❤

@nscales20 6 ай бұрын

Hubbell saw the big picture. The futility of it all. Katie was so caught up in her beliefs she couldn't see how letting it get so close and destroy you relationship wasn't worth it all. The bottom line was they were to very different people.