Masterclass nº3 Lang Lang - No 23 - Barenboim on Beethoven

[@pepeloco65]

durísimo de la cabeza el chino pero al final va aprendiendo

[@frankom3]

Jajaja durísimo de la cabeza ? Jajaja

[@eduardodavid3198]

Pictures Jotageamgallery genio? Sacate el habano de la oreja

[@guillermobarrios7272]

pepeloco65 mi maestro decía que uno nunca deja de aprender

[@eduardodavid3198]

Apollo'sMessengers jaja Comparar a Barenboim con Lang Lang es totalmente ridículo. No creo que ningún músico serio del mundo diga semejante estupidez

[@gsm2424]

Durisimo de la cabeza lang lang? que feo ser sordo dios mio

[@Ardakapalasan]

What makes Barenboim an authority on Beethoven? Well, he was a pupil of Edwin Fischer, who was a pupil of Martin Krause, who was a pupil of Franz Liszt, who was a pupil of Carl Czerny, who was a pupil of Beethoven himself. He is a direct musical descendant of Beethoven!

[@timothyw.5487]

That makes Lang Lang also a direct descendant too since he was a pupil of Barenboim

[@nathan87]

@@timothyw.5487 Ish. Getting a masterclass isn't quite the same as studying with somebody for a period of time.

[@wolfie8748]

@@nathan87 true

[@sebbisdee2177]

I guess Barenboim is an authority on Haydn as well

[@dankg55]

Half of the musicians I know (me included) are direct musical descendants of Beethoven, and a lot of the time without even knowing it. At the time, it meant something.

[@Shanil291]

German composer, Italian in the music notation, Spanish subtitles, Chinese student, Israeli teacher, both speaking in English, set in America. Damn... 21st century phenomenon

[@mirokajevskivelevski8895]

Uhh, argentinian jewish teacher

[@fazec0ld802]

What’s wild is that Daniel Barenboim can speak (fluently) in the language of every country you just mentioned with the exception of China

[@madonner]

Y yo Brasileño viendo el vídeo... 😂

[@Dangosan-m3t]

Israeli teacher? Hes argentinian bruh

[@rustykershaw]

one thing that doesn't get said enough about barenboim: he's an amazing page-turner

[@tunahankaratay1523]

Lol true

[@eduardosantiagocal]

lol no. anyone could do that. (anyone that have studied music)

[@brianrussel6012]

(guest) Giacomo, Baremboim, the virtuoso page turner...🎼😊🎼 He even goes back to smooth it down if it doesn't lie flat... Isn't Lang Lang amazing... 🎼😊🇬🇧❤🎼😊🎼

[@me3251]

Eduardo Santiago Cal When u are playing, you might not be able to find time to flip the pages, especially pieces that soloists play. I bet you play twinkle twinkle little stars and compare its page turning to chopin etudes.

[@OuaghlaniAlaa]

He's an amazing listener, too.

[@Alexnotjones]

First time seeing Lang Lang is the student in a master class.

[@peese8655]

Great teaching, Mr. Barenboim. Lang Lang, however, is indeed gifted. He is clearly a quick learner. Lang Lang is much eager to take in the maestro's advice like a sponge. They interact with the chemistry like father and son. That is kindly warm and heart touching. That is truly lovely.

[@simonpaxon5649]

Actually Barenboim and Lang Lang are very good friend before this masterclass is recorded. That‘s why he helped turn the page of the score for him. Just like father and son.

[@peterkovacs9951]

@@simonpaxon5649 He is turning the pages so that he can see the music.

[@dt2419]

Péter Kovács many teachers make you flip your own pages

[@peterkovacs9951]

@@dt2419 I can't think of a scenario where that's helpful.

[@dt2419]

Péter Kovács it’s helpful if you can sight read so you can learn a new piece all in one go. Also if you are doing a solo performance where no one can flip it for you.

[@leongunnyli6059]

The Lang Lang shows Barenboim really understands how to teach a prodigy. He is basically expanding the dynamic range and emotions for him.

[@Agenamigo]

Barenboim is trying to teach Lang Lang not to be a pianist playing piano. This is a point of view of an orchestral conductor who has an overview of the entire score and now discuss the details. Bravo maestro. 👍

[@kimsahl8555]

Barenboim, what a pianist - one of the best ever.

[@morganmartinez8420]

Just like Thalberg! XD

[@kimsahl8555]

@@morganmartinez8420 Yes, and because of Liszt the number one place never go to another pianist in the 1800 - 1900.

[@tomasitto299]

Not only best pianist, he's also one of best conductors, he expresses the music so amazing, he has music inside himself... he IS music

[@nilsholgersson6893]

Zoltán Kocsis

[@sasarasasarasa]

9:30 "Who's your turning pages assisstant? " "Berlin State Orchestra director" "ha ha no really..."

[@adriaanvangeest]

Its Daniël Barenboim

[@JJTownley_Classical-Composer]

Actually, Lang Lang was very gracious to agree to be the student to master teacher Barenboim--Lang Lang who was already a seasoned performer in his own right when this was done. I think this came right after they recorded the Tchaikovsky No 1 together and Barenboim asked him to participate. LL demonstrates once again he's not only a great pianist but a great human being too, willing to take instruction from one of the great Beethoven interpreters of our time.

[@lczq6737]

@@JJTownley_Classical-Composer nicely put

[@BingDwenDwen]

You can see Barenboim face and hear him think, I have nothing to teach this guy, Barenboim was thoroughly enjoying the entire performance of Lang Lang.

[@Franz_Liszt_Korean]

Agree

[@qeweqrdaca6251]

I love lang lang, at this point he was already a renowned pianist, yet he’s humble and still has that curiosity in discovering masters like Barenboim’s interpretation on Beethoven’s work.

[@normabyde4766]

Absolutely agree.Lang Lang has a charming modesty about himself . He is a great music communicator too. Excellent Masterclass from the Master.

[@josiah566]

What's wonderful and difficult about Beethoven (at least as far as Barenboim's criticisms of Lang Lang's pulse are concerned) is that while Beethoven is romantic, his backbone is so classical and so rhythmically centered. Barenboim really brings out a nuanced tension and release by having Lang Lang obey structure and slip in and out of it, without losing Lang Lang's personal touch to the piece.

[@keplergso8369]

True ! Beethoven was in the first period of romanticism, passionate, idealist, intellectual, it was not at all the languid romanticism of Schumann, very far !

[@Maddie01022]

This is incredible. Barenboim is on a different planet

[@erichkusterer6339]

Yes ❤

[@brianrussel6012]

(guest) I think when you see the level of undestanding and virtuosity great pianists achieve, it makes you appreciate so much our advanced civilisation and culture.....music has to be the most personal, intimate art form...it is to me, anyway, and when I was very weak during cancer radiotherapy, ( it felt like dying), all interests went away, but music stayed, like a dear friend...🎼😊❤🇬🇧❤🎼

[@cme1447]

So great that you overcame it

[@angelarasmussen3884]

❤️🎶

[@alfonsomantecon5057]

Unbelievable masterclass by a genious to another genious!. The video oozes humility and mutual respect by both artists as well as grandiosity. Barenboim and Lang Land Top of the pops!!!!!!

It's nice to see how much appreciation Lang Lang shows towards Baremboim at the end! :D Beautiful, spontaneous hug, and he must have said thank you like 20 times at the very least :D He sure knows the value of the amazing lesson he just received.

[@Musicsson]

What a teacher! Mr. Barenboim shows the finest tissue of the music. What an inspiration!

[@livb6945]

Wonderful. Lang Lang really enjoys playing!! And Mr Barenboim... Please just keep talking about music. I could listen forever

[@stevenhaff3332]

I think Mr. Barenboim's answer to the first question after Lang Lang had finished was very instructful because it points to his fundamental view and understanding what music is. I think Barenboim, to his credit, sees and understands music much more than a discipline or activity that one does, no matter how seriously, but as something fundamental to living itself.

[@manavagrawal720]

The entire legato explanation think of the dying sound as the connection to the next legato. That was soooo nuanced and such a great demonstration, I got goosebumps when he caught that

[@ArohaArun]

So lovely when 2 people communicate piano fluently.

[@marianlevy9232]

An absolute privilege to be able to sit in on this incredible masterclass- great tips for building even more tension, excitement, musicality and nuance into Beethoven’s piano sonatas- think I’ll go practice again 🎹🎶❤️

[@keithkunikida1222]

I don’t think I’ve ever heard Barenboim’s voice before, his voice is so gentle and firm, such a lovely voice combined with a lovely repertoire of his. Probably some of the best pianists ever.

[@LeVezz]

37:16 Feeling a constant rythm throughout a piece makes even Lang Lang having a revelation

[@JacobDTulio]

This is the video that increased my respect for Lang Lang considerably.

[@arqmandiola]

Me resultó muy emocionamte como ver la entrega del maestro al alumno .De prodigio a prodigio con mucho respeto y humildad !!!Barenboim es la música misma!!!

[@jessicachen4530]

Two great musicians together create awesomeness. This is what Lang Lang and Barenboim did. Well done to both

[@AJBTemplar]

Daniel Barenboim demonstrated amply his immense pianistic capability here. One of the best, if not the best, masterclass I have ever seen.

[@davidalonsoalvarez1272]

I think the same. He can speak with Lang and say to him, baby you have to improve so much.

[@martinbauer800]

This masterclass is on a different level...

[@NightMoves1969]

This is some Yoda level stuff going on here. When he speaks of the order coming out of the chaos and strife, he is talking about pushing yourself beyond your own limits. To get to the next level you have to go beyond what you already can do and reach for the next rung on the ladder so to speak. Amazing stuff to watch happen in real time.

[@clairesnibbe1878]

I am enjoying this enormously. Absolutely amazing.

[@veracruz7954]

Alex Challmes Agreed !!!....

[@enriqueclaudet7023]

0 t

[@tw2ii1eg9z]

Lang Lang is a classical music phenomenon. I think the versatility with which he plays the piano and the way he conducts his career, LL is already a musician forever. He's making his history like the Beatles, Paul McCartney, Elton John, Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Duke Ellington, Dizzy Gillespie, Count Basie... Just some of the names I can think of now. There's Ella, unforgettable! All of them, like Lang Lang have an eternal legacy. Generations will come and other musicians will quote him, say his name as an example, frequent environments where they can hear his music. Legacy is more extensive than we imagine, because we don't know where it ends. I don!'t need to make mirabolical elucubations to discuss what Lang Lang means in the lives of people who admire him. He's the man! That's it. Sometimes I ask myself: does Lang Lang belong to the music or does the music belong to Lang Lang? Meanwhile, I go on with Lang Lang drinking from this inexhaustible fountain of wisdom. That's it for today.

[@PeterBrodie]

Phenomenal! What an extraordinary Master! I found the entire video breathtaking. Lang Lang is excellent without any doubt, but Barenboim's profound wisdom coupled with his lightness and sense of humour place him in a different league for me - no doubt one Lang Lang can aspire to in a few decades from now...

[@MagicGuitara]

Barenboim is a genius.

[@tmpqtyutmpqty4733]

He isn't. he is just a businessman. His interpretations are his own, and probably has nothing to do with what Beethoven actually thought.

[@lfugh1]

Tmpqtyu Tmpqty you contradicted yourself with your other comment

[@maxwellspiano3580]

@@tmpqtyutmpqty4733 ur wrong by a lot. He is a true genius.

[@pepetorres8827]

How much love and respect has showing Baremboim to lang lang, this is what a teacher mentor has to be. This class of piano has to be taken by any musician in the world it doesn´t matter which instrument are you playing. This is a unique master class high level expressed for people who wants to be part of the music..... Amazing Barenboim his concepts are truly a treasure. I admire him very much as a guitar player.

[@marijkenoevers3023]

Maestro Barenboim… This is a lesson of Life, Respect, Humbleness, Love and Beauty… It’s Divine… 🙏🏽

[@stevenhaff3332]

For any serious pianist, this back and forth with Lang Lang and Mr. Barenboim, discussing pianism generally and Beethoven in particular is not to be missed. Both serious and dedicated musicians! A banquet of music ideas and performance ideals!

[@tmpqtyutmpqty4733]

Barennboim is probably a bad teacher to have, he will crush any shred of creativity and self saying. You'll basically become a robot.

[@lfugh1]

Tmpqtyu Tmpqty man you really dont like baremboim

[@alexismandelias]

​@@tmpqtyutmpqty4733what.

[@fyremusic6307]

The master is teaching the student, years after the Student is now the Master. The Master for Lang Lang is now a Legend.

[@manuel-et4he]

Lang Lang is not a serious pianist

[@simonemarri2821]

@@manuel-et4heahahahahaha one of the most talented, loved, requested and rice pianist in the world

[@bikkies]

Maestro Barenboim has so many wonderful insights to share here. Seeing one side of a mountain. Music is a way of life. When playing the first note, have in mind the last note.

[@tinkerchel]

*EDIT* to answer my own question: Barenboim called in Lang Lang as a last minute kinda thing. The latter had to give up catching the world cup live despite having bought a ticket already. Also according to Lang Lang himself, Barenboim had taken him in as him teacher/mentor for many years. Lang Lang even stayed at Barenboim's house occasionally. He said he was terrified of maestro(while having the upmost respect for him), and rightful so. This masterclass took place during that period. ============================================================== What I noticed after going through the whole series of 6 is that Lang Lang is the only student that referred to the sheet music. I'm a little curious as to why. Barenboim is truly an inspiration. One learns so much about life from listening to him talk about music. Highly recommend his BBC documentary "In his own words". Both here and there there exist so many quotable wisdom :D

[@acwatercolors]

This is excellent. Such a pleasure to understand better the music thanks to these two masters.

[@metteholm4833]

Barenboim seems fascinated - and rightly so!

[@aaronthomas4948]

Just pointing out: Lang Lang’s English is a remarkable example of his ability to pick up intonation and inflection.

[@mattliu2129]

He reminds me of my teacher. The passion, the expression and the perseverance on details. Seems all piano teachers speak the same language. Wonderful lecture!

[@e.p.s.9037]

One thing that stood out to me was the fingering choices for the trill sequence around 30:22 Because he does everything with the right hand he's tempted to stall in the displacement. Now compare to Barenboim's 33:50 where he uses his left hand for the transition notes so each trill is followed by another seamlessly.

[@rtxa]

Good catch!

[@georgenorris2657]

Barenboim in best form here. I think Lang Lang´s ability and response to his suggestions excited him.

[@clivepierce1816]

I’ve never forgotten what Barenboim once said when he was rehearsing a violin concerto with Maxim Vengerov. He held up the score and said, “This is not the concerto. It contains everything but what is essential to make music”. Simply playing the notes without a sense of what the music is trying to communicate isn’t music making. Barenboim’s performance at the end of this video is masterful. It highlights the gulf in musicianship between the master and the student. It comes as no surprise that very few amongst the myriad of instrumental players ever become masterful musicians.

[@Santosificationable]

This should inspire students from all backgrounds to continue learning. You have Lang Lang, one of the world's premier pianists, still trying to improve here. Everyone, even the greatest masters, always have something to improve on, and that is a fundamental aspect of an artist's mentality. One never gets satisfied. "(W)henever an actor gets satisfied, it's his work which is done...is through." - Bela Lugosi

[@hongyiqian8616]

Santosificationable Lang Lang had this masterclass when he was 22, still a grad student at Curtis

[@joykuoviolin]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZvcqHWGpqmZrZY Amazingly, he is now still learning. This is a short documentary of him learning from maestro Andreas Staier in February this year.

[@rafaelserranohernandez6426]

Maestro Barenboim, muchas gracias por compartir con el mundo toda su sabiduría musical.

[@kristian.kalmanlehto]

To get into a composer's head requires deep relationship with the music. That is what Barenboim does very well. Beethovens piano sonatas are all worth of thorough listening. I did it last time when I was in hospital. Lang Lang is one of many rising interpreters of piano music.

[@luisvalle8727]

this is hardcore knowledge, this is art, this is... this is magic.

[@lancevior3579]

Both are genius

[@Jutubowiec1]

@@lancevior3579 And Bethoveen as a compositor also.

[@Walacama]

This is red rocks, this is the Edge

[@Highinsight7]

even before the help of Barenboim... Lang Lang had a LOT of very beautiful things to say with this powerful work! every great pianist has struggled with this epic work!

[@simonpaxon5649]

I think his face expressions and body movements actually prove that he is really feeling the music and the notes he played. He actually did some movements when he played those big legato sounds for example around 11:45-11:54, and those movements really helped him get those sound out. That‘s lot of misicians would do. If someone play piano seat 100% still with absolutely no face expression and act like a zombie, I am sure that the sound would also like "zombie" with no emotions and airs into music. That‘s nothing wrong with Lang Lang and he played this sonata very good actually.

[@Jwm367t]

Horowitz wants to see you

[@Larsykfz303]

I think its a pianist related thing, you could describe Horowitz as sitting like a zombie in some performances, yet he manages to put in more emotions than anyone else. Take his performance of Schubert's impromptu no 3 for example.

[@instrumentalistjade8367]

Yapapapam

[@Giampierremountain]

Yapppppapppppappppppaaaa

[@eri6219]

Lmao.

[@zain4019]

Instrumentalists Jade Pam? *the office intro plays*

[@TheSzopen123]

AND NOT TOO SOON!

[@katiateixeiradacosta1503]

Très belle masterclass Baremboim passe sont expérience et maturité a un jeune qui veut apprendre! Bravo!!!

[@ivanwebberdossantos2695]

Obrigado por existir. Muita precisão energia delicadeza e personalidade. EU AMO SUAS INTERPRETAÇÕES.

[@ey_charles]

This was so great. In this format you almost can feel you’re in the room. I learned a lot. Thank you for sharing!

[@mamonclub200]

THE MASTERCLASS!!! Woooooo!!! Sin desperdicio. Grande maestros!!!

[@clairesnibbe1878]

What a treat - another one of my icons, Barenboim, expressing what Beethoven means not only for professional musicians, but for humanity.

[@howtoplayrayskeyboard1344]

Pure magic from start to the end! 👍🏻

[@Elomere]

Barenboim is a true master if there ever was one.

[@nandinirao6035]

2 of the greatest pianists who ever lived 1 an acknowledged authority on Beethoven and the other a fabulous interpreter of the Masters greatest works! doesn’t get better than this!!

[@Serenity5460]

The Master of Beethoven! What a great show to listen and to watch your advice sir! Thank you for sharing your knowledge

[@francobonanni218]

We must admit that he is a great teacher and great observer, he explains many things that are basic but important elements that are essential for a great pianist. I would like to have a little bit of his memory and talent. Both great artists.

[@courtcomposer]

Exquisite performance by Lang Lang.

[@marsfuture]

Yet completely out of his depth intellectually as well as emotionally in his playing, when faced with an eminence of Barenboim's gravitas ;-) Which of course is fair enough, given their age difference back then. But it also shows how weird it is that Lang Lang is almost a household name compared to Barenboim who is definitely less well known internationally... When it comes to Beethoven, Barenboim (an amazing conductor in his main profession) pretty much is the one to go to. Lang Lang arguably will master other composers to greater effects than him these days, tho.

[@juanpablotrilleras7553]

Language of music in one of human deeper expretions ... that is art

[@michaeltroke7239]

Hearing Lang Lang, he makes this sonata movement sound like a symphony, it's almost possible to hear the possible orchestration.

[@rivers1005]

This should be called mastersclass

[@mariainesarribas1169]

Preciosa clase: una danza armoniosa de dos musicos talentosos. Hipnotica la sesion..

[@hoangphong7340]

Bethoven master really can challege Lang Lang’s technique,magic

[@shirleyhare6177]

Viet nguyen hoang phong I don’t think he’s challenging, just assisting,nothing too much wrong with his technique,

[@oooooo9187]

Words, characters, phrases, paragraphs, commentaries etc.. Really the performance of such a masterpiece is like writing an essay. This is so inspirational!

[@meiyeelee89]

This masterclass is so precious!

[@lucassu9099]

48:19 the man at the back looked like "Putin + Trump"....

[@migulincho]

Yeah jajaja

[@svenyproud]

hahahaha

[@mikea6710]

In the next second or 2, there is Jerry Springer

[@adriatorras8077]

you are a genius. (but God is God)

[@hvewj]

oh my god

[@ahimsainternational3361]

What amazing insights and advice. How lucky can anyone be?

[@CN-yf3lr]

I've never been a fan of Beethoven but after watching again this pianist I have become to like it. Interesting...🎼🎶

[@Nedakerfan]

Really amazing masterclass❤👍

[@antoniovisioli4460]

Quando il maestro Baremboin suona Beethoven, seppur in masterclass, si sente la presenza della tradizione tedesca : Gieseking, Fisher, Backaus, Solomon ...ho avuto il privilegio di essere diretto da lui nelle nove sinfonie del genio di Bonn e garantisco che w indimenticabile l'equilibrio interno dei diversi parametri musicali beethoveniani

[@jonwang4039]

Yes! Great Barenboim, tell the undeetable Great Lang Lang how to play! YES! PERFECTO!

[@liwlopez9634]

OMG LANG LANG AND BARENBOIM A DREAM COME TRUE!!!

[@skhochay]

just imagine how they playing it. but even more crazy the dude who wrote it !

[@sputnik3289]

12:53 that part was amazing

[@alluka_rz]

Lang Lang I just love it smooth and so motioning like a feather I wish to see you next year in philly

[@kennethHuo]

I don’t play any instruments in my life,but I can’t stop watching this video.

[@weiwang5455]

For those of you who think this video is somewhat long and like to skip, please be sure to listen to the QA section where it goes to a completely new, wonderful level.

[@josebohorquez2633]

Amazing lesson

[@jianhong1000]

Barenboim : That’s why music is not professional , it’s way of life .

[@kookamunga2458]

One thing that can be said about Lang Lang is that he has deep devotion for what he does . He is finding his voice but has a way to go before approaching musiciàns such as Glenn Gould and Rachmaninoff .

[@Amelia-s]

Two masters.

[@annaleecarstens4907]

Whaau!!!!! How privileged Iam to experience this class.

[@everythingnice]

I am not a musician, but I can really hear the feeling of his keys.

[@sgarcia_cello]

De las mejores masterclasses del mundo

[@marcosPRATA918]

Maravilhoso Lang Lang.

[@thelostclock6930]

That first comment from Barenboim is something that I always had in mind in regards to Lang Lang's play. He is exceptional there is no question about it, but it seems like his playing style does not seem to be structured. It seems like he is playing moment by moment. Passage by passage. and I felt like back then not anymore, it was due to his physical pompous style of playing.

[@claudiab6752]

Inspired! Thank you greatly!

[@skillsunlimitedbyprescyg.t7503]

Kudos! The producer of this video did justice to Music. Very interesting and useful to piano teachers.This tandem of two masters is rare. Maestro Barenboim taught very well and Master Lang Lang is a good student. The facial reaction of Lang Lang is awesome. He internalizes ss he said he sees construction of big bldgs. Me? I imagine my childhood.--direct frm the Philiipines

[@junweixu1581]

never touched piano and why am i here finish the video like huh interesting.

[@pianoplaynight]

Hopefully you're inspired to play one!

[@metaphor5533]

This is why Barenboim works for peace finally because the peace is balancing to completely

[@marsfuture]

He is doing amazing work with his Eastern Diwan. Outstandingly engaged, against a lot of hostility, esp here in Berlin where they fabricated a scandal against him for political reasons. Trying to further dialogue and peace between Israel and Palestine is not something certain powerful circles actually appreciate very much, sadly and shamefully.

[@rohanrandive1898]

whos here after lang lang masterclass video, and someone commented "he is teaching that girl what barenboim taught him 10 years ago" and then u searched for this video.

[@madhurimapremkumar2341]

Ayy

[@weiwang5455]

That's funny. I guess KZbin automatically suggested this video to me after that video!

[@buttercubbb1996]

exactly!

[@mixalis295]

would you tell me which video you are talking about exactly? im very interested :)

[@buttercubbb1996]

@@mixalis295 kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2XHqJidptOchMk

[@JaseBach]

Hardly a fan of Lang Lang, I am impressed by his playing of the first movement of the Appassionata here. This was very good piano playing and he prepared meticulously. The numerous nuances impress me more than Maestro Barenboim's supposed improvements. There was a musicality, thoughtfulness and humility that had become less obvious as he became more famous. I love in particular his choice of tempo. The tempo of this movement is tricky; there are twelve beats to the bar and even famous pianists make the mistake of playing too fast and turning twelve beats to four beats in a bar. Here, you can hear all twelve beats. This is an aspect of Beethoven not often mentioned. If you follow his time signature and count every beat, you have got the right tempo, and that's what Lang Lang achieved here so beautifully. However admirable and impressive though, the interpretation was only a work in progress. The pathos, the anger and the metaphysical are dimensions of this work hardly touched on yet. Within the confines of a masterclass, Barenboim was only dealing with the trees; there is a wood and a mountain out there to be explored. Barenboim's Beethoven cycle in Berlin is a testament to this. Paradoxically, the wide-eyed approach adopted by Lang Lang makes easier listening than Barenboim's mature and tortured interpretations. You can love this music to death.

[@teufelhunden8308]

Its not a matter of interpretation. Its a matter of Beethoven’s intention.

[@FlandraLabs]

@@teufelhunden8308 And thus is the age-old debate. Does the interpretation of the composer supersede that of the musician? If it does, then do we bother listening to new performers? If it doesn't, then are we disrespecting the composer by bringing individual style to their repertoire?

[@christopheschollaert6360]

Je suis fan de Lang Lang .