Percussion Caps: The #1 Threat to Cap & Ball Shooting in 2024-Let's Talk

[@travisbishop4840]

I've been making no. 10 caps since the early 80's. My process has evolved over the years. I had tooling made at various machine shops. A brass plate milled to hold 1,000, a steel plate with top punch plate that fits my 20 ton press. My mixture is made in bulk and kept wet with denatured alcohol. Rubbed over the plate into the cap body. Another plate presses the mixture into the cup. Another pushes them out. I make my own black powder as well, using my grandpa's recipe.

[@Paul-zc4gu]

It would be real sporting of you to share your cap mixture:) Here in the UK we cant have chlorate so here's hoping yours is different :)

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

@Paul-zc4gu I’ll see if I can do that soon.

[@Paul-zc4gu]

@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb Very kind of you Sir

[@85waspnest]

I live in the UK where the cap situation has been dire for over a year. I grab whatever my local gun shop can lay their hands on. Remington No 10 fit and work perfectly on my Uberti Remington .36 and .44 revolvers. Unfortunately No10s have been pretty much unobtainium for ages but I managed to find some No11s recently and grabbed 8 tins. They're a little on the loose side but fit okay with a pinch. I've used RWS 1075, they're okay with a pinch for the first cylinder until they're fouled. CCI No10 - too tight, 2 hammer strikes required to fire. CCI No 11 - too loose. I've to be desperate to buy CCI due to many misfires as three friends who use them will testify. I attribute this to the priming compound attracting moisture from the air more than the other makes. To combat this I make sure not to leave the tin or star dispenser exposed to the air between reloads. What happens is the hammer falls, the cap doesn't go off, leaving compound stuck to the surface and inside the nipple hole. Replacing with a new cap doesn't work unless the dud compound is cleaned off and the nipple poked out. This problem never occurs with Remington and RWS caps. Fortunately I have a 357, .44 and a .45/70 lever action rifle to fall back on when caps aren't available... that's when I can find cartridge primers to reload of course !!! 😂

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Wow! I’ve never had those problems with cci 11…it’s got to be humidity! Finding rem 10’s is sort of on luck these days. It really takes some effort these days to keep them running huh? Good luck. We will all keep trying. Thanks

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

@brandonkinder2219 yes. I’ve been pinching #11 caps for years. It definitely works! Thanks.

[@Steven-cr8ju]

I believe Remington and CCI caps are made by the same parent Company and only one run per year around May-June.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

I believe you are correct. I know CCI runs once a year in prep for hunting season. I’ve not heard anything about Remington. I hope so! I’ve heard online a few people have found them recently. Whether that’s new or old stock I don’t know.

[@Steven-cr8ju]

It's a shame there is a $25 to $30 hazmat fee on top of shipping for one $12 tin. I would have to order 15 to 20 tins to get the unit cost lower - at the expense of immediate cash in hand.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

@Steven-cr8ju I know. For 2 tins it would be 35 per tin. I’ll make em

[@jamesgarland4990]

Great video! A good positive attitude about a sad cap situation.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Yea. It is sad but….ive got one on making homemade caps coming soon

[@kimheaston7574]

My stock Pietta nipples fit with CCI 10s just fine. Serendipity!

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

I’ll give it another try. I have a couple they do ok on. Most tight. Thanks!

[@natjonestower3035]

I was just having this discussion with an employee at my local gunshop, how you can buy a cap and ball about anywhere, almost every store that sells guns has those cheap traditions pistols for sale, but none of them sell the caps. So you can buy the gun with everything you need, except powder or caps, but none of them sell caps. You can buy them online, but it's only worth them by the case because you need to pay the hazardous materials charge. Going to start badgering shops to get some in I guess.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

I badger my locals too! We gotta do what we gotta do. Thanks.

[@natjonestower3035]

@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb I just recently got into it, bought an Uberti 1849 colt pocket replica, but I like it so much I'm thinking about getting a Walker. I have one local that has 4 wing musket caps, but you'd have to get pretty desperate to try to make those do it.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

@natjonestower3035 I hear you. I’ve had luck making them. I just got a walker last week. It’s cool.

[@mikef7698]

People have a ton of success making their own powder and caps, lot of good vids on here if you wanted to make your primers. Obviously, casting lead being included

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

@mikef7698 I agree. I’ve had good luck with homemade caps and I cast my own lead. Never tried powder. Thanks.

[@wayneeck9805]

For who ever is watching, I just checked with Scheels, here at Wichita KS and they are selling the Remington #10 for $9.99 but limited to one per sale.

[@jerrybell7962]

I agree with everything you said about the CCI #10 caps.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

I found a revolver they fit! Spiller & Burr. Finally got to use some yesterday!

[@SteveHolcombe]

Very, very good video, well made, articulate, and interesting. I have been into percussion revolvers since I was thirteen years old (forty years ago), your presentation is very professional. I only discovered your channel today. I will be watching more of your "stuff" in the future. I was also glad to find that the home made cap system works in a revolver.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Thank you! I’m glad you found it interesting! Welcome. I might even do a video soon on making caps if the weather doesn’t cooperate. You’re a veteran cap & baller..,love it.

[@chrisabraham8793]

I use a Fosters Tap-a-cap tool, people moan that takes too long and not worth the effort but when you have no caps its the best alternative.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Exactly! I’d rather not but it’s better than not shooting

[@jameswhite465]

Yeah I've been making myself over the winter ☃️. Thank you have a good day.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Great winter pastime. Thanks

[@RUSSELLPOWELL-f7o]

You have a great attitude. Very informative & pleasant.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Thank you!!!

[@ronrobertson59]

I was making caps by drilling holes in hard wood cap size using a screw driver I cut to make the aluminum disc into caps. I was using strike on the box matches and the striker dust off the match box and alcohol then hair spray. I've since picked up a kit from 22 cal loading kid guy. That is much easier and faster. I made up 300 for range use to save back the 600 or so Remington No.10's I have left. I rarly have a misfire and are the only caps that will fire my 1858 Uberti Remington.

[@willmarona-jn9wc]

I generally shoot flintlocks. The revolver issues with caps is a very frustrating situation……

[@wayneeck9805]

I'm one that basically gave up and sold my pistols (3) but I kept one, just in case. An 1858 Remington, replica, my favorite, just could not sell that one. It's a 36 cal. but I bought the conversion so I load centerfire 38spl. However when the primers got so bad for everyone, I switched over to the PCP air rifles. Now I no longer have a primer problem. Got so fed up with all the price gouging at gun shows and businesses. Anyway, now days, air rifles are not toys anymore, you can so some serious hunter with them. However, nothing can match the drama and excitement of black powder! Why I'm watching your video, when I see something about black powder, I still have to stop what I'm doing and watch it. It was my black powder guns that taught me and led to my reloading centerfire. The youth today don't seem to be interested in the things of the past, like civil war museums etc. I think the one near Dallas Texas just closed, saw that on facebook. How sad is that! Anyway, I liked your video. Thanks!

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Thank you!!! My muzzleloading club has a large air gun range and it’s popular! I haven’t gotten into it…yet! I hope you give BP a try once in a while…and you’re right. History is not cool anymore I guess. Thanks.

[@vincentthekeeper2163]

Spot on Jay, another issue as well is when they release the CCI 11s the entire country will be looking they need to do a quality run. There will be caps available for a few weeks at the most. I hope guys just buy what they need to shoot and don't hoard. I've spoken to a few new cap and ball shooters and the cap shortage is starting to hurt the hobby with new interest. Why buy a cap and ball revolver you can't shoot?

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

That’s my fear and why I did this. Also, new shooters are unlikely to go to the lengths I suggest. It’s a problem for sure. Hoarding is also huge.

[@donaldgarmon7368]

A good video Jstone, and thanks for the links to the Slixsprings and cap-making kit. 👍

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

You’re welcome! Thanks for watching and your kind words.

[@joebosch983]

I've only been able to find CCI #10 caps. I'll take a pair of scissors and make a small relief cut on the edge of the skirt so that they are able to be seated on the nipples.. I have only shot a few cylinder full but the seem to work just fine.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

That’s a great idea. I wondered about that option. I’ll try it! Thanks

[@GunDrone]

@Cap & Ball Fanatic, Years ago i had a tin of CCI #10s small like yours. I was able to use them easily after i took a small pointed wire cutter ( looks like plier but, two edges and pointed no strippers) and made 2 cuts. Both cuts are made 180 degrees from each other on the inside of the cup (it don't have to be perfect). When i make these cuts i cut them only half way of the total length of the cap's cup. You can use your fingers to push them on. This makes the cup split slightly and go on further on the nipples. Pros: 1) You can use up caps that are to tight. Cons: 1) Wcause

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Hi! That’s a great idea. I just found one revolver they fit … spiller and burr! So I’m using them this week on a video. But for others I’ll give this a go! I’d like to use them up!

[@bubbadoolittle2812]

A very smart move!

[@lessage760]

great vidio sir thank you so much very interesting

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Thank you

[@KevinWilliams-c2p]

I've been pinching no#11s for decades and with my uberti 1860 standard bbl. They always stay on the nipples no cap jams.i can only speak for my revolver but I have used cci.and Remington caps with a good hard pinch where you have to work the cap onto the nipples with a bit of thumb pressure haven't had a problem for years.that is my experience.. good shooting!

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

When I use #11’s me too! This pinching causes chain fire thing is new but there is no proof! I’ll be pinching #11’s with you!

[@jimmy2060]

I make my own, , really easy and a never-ending supply

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Great choice!!!

[@NamlessSaint]

Hello...I am Irish but live in Czech Republic fpr 9 years....ive been shooting muzzle loaders for plinking and hunting. Purchased an old cap making tool here and never looked back. I wet paper caps for kids toy guns, strip the paper in two and use 8 if the cap dot powder into each cap....tamp it down wet and let them dry....some of the glue seems to be dissolved into the powder so no need to seal them. Had the odd fail but most work perfectly. I have a problem with wild boar on my land damaging stuff. Been watching your channel for hints and tips. I've a flint lock rifle too, never shot it. Would be interested in a video about how to use one. God bless you....

[@chrisleo8890]

A few years ago All I could find was CCI10 and CCI11So I got a few thousand I have the kit from 22Reloader To make my own caps Also Went through track of the wolf To buy #11 nipple For my revolvers So that way I'm kind of covered with both size nipples.

[@hercules1073]

Back when I started shooting cap and ball there was only 3 manufacturers of caps CCI, RWS, and highly corrosive Italian imports under the likes of CVA brands etc. I always used CCI 11 on my rifles and revolvers by pinching them when necessary. I did like RWS 1075's though. When Remington started making caps I swapped to Remington 10's for my revolvers, but I always thought they were made by RWS for Remington due to the same type priming compound, but never verified that so I have no idea. At some point CVA started having CCI's packaged under their name and sometimes they could be found at great discounts. I bought a few cases of CCI # 10's right before the prices got insane 3 or so years ago for $27.40 a thousand and I still have plenty left so I ordered new nipples for my most liked revolvers and simply turned them down to use the CCI 10's. I've been shooting these guns for decades and to date I have never paid over 29 bucks per thousand and thought that was pretty high! hazmat used to be 3 dollars as well...times have changed... When I run out of caps I may resort to flintlock only to prevent having to pay these high prices of the day! It burns me up having to buy metallic primers, but I have no choice there and ain't willing to give up reloading and handloading! anyway if the caps don't fit...pinch them...if they're too tight chuck up the nipples and turn them down! :)

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Hey thanks for your account. Caps have gotten expensive no doubt like everything else. I’ll turn some nipples for the cci 10’s. Like I said I also use cci 11 on revolvers and haven’t needed to pinch. But I will if I need to. Thanks again.

[@hercules1073]

@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb Do you remember the original tap-o-cap from forster? I bought that tool many years ago and it had much longer and sharper teeth than the copy available today and it turned out a decent cap if you didn't break any teeth! I bought the copy of it like you have, but I bought my copy in #11 instead of #10 anyway I was wondering if you knew which one made the size closest to the original forster? I'm glad to see some of the things coming back to market like the slix shot nipples... those were originally MSM spitfire mag and also under the Uncle Mike's trademark as hotshot nipples. Man I sure do miss MSM and a couple others as well.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

@hercules1073 I’m guessing that the new #11 mold is closest to tap o cap. It is nice that this hobby still has a lot of accessories to help make us better experience.

[@hercules1073]

@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb I think I'll hold off on getting the number 10 die then. I only tinker with those anyway and I'm thousands of caps away from resorting to it! the priming compound is corrosive like the old Italian stuff, but the Italian compound was a dark silvery, brittle compound. Yeah I hate to see something useful leave the market, but luckily others come along and offer it down the road. Still I miss the old companies and those that ran them that have gone on to greener pastures...

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

@hercules1073 I don’t make them either but it’s nice to know I can!

[@DennisRatashak]

It's definitely been hard for some time now to get caps. I normally can only get CCI 11 caps, but recently, I did find some Remington 10 caps. But unfortunately, they fall off my revolver, unlike the CCI 11 caps. But thankfully, I can get large pistol primers to load .45 Colt cartridges in black powder and smokeless powder and use my cartridges conversion cylinder in my 1858 Remington .44 cal. I also have one of those 1858 Remington revolving carbines. You should get one of those they are a lot of fun.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

They have been hard to get for a while I agree. Cartridge conversions are a way but so far I’m all cap and ball. I have a revolving carbine. I did a video on it back in July. Check it out. Those are fun!

[@East_TX_LCR]

I finally snagged some rem #11 for my naa from cabellas online recently. Now im stocked up on everything

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Well alright!!! That’s great! I just snagged some Remington 10’s from them too.

[@johnanderson186]

So glad I went into a Walmart years ago (pre-PLANDEMIC), and caught the after hunting clearance sale. I bought about 2500 #11 caps for about $1.50 a tin, and about 2000, 777 and federal muzzleloader 209 primers for about $2-$3 a pack.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Wow! That’s a great find!

[@improvisedsurvival5967]

Nice score

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

@improvisedsurvival5967 cabelas/bass pro has Remington 10’s in stock now. Just ordered some. Good luck

[@paulpreston4960]

Thanks for making the video i think that you have made some great suggestions on how to overcome these supply problems.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Thank you! Hope they work for you! Cabelas has Remington 10’s now on their website. FYI. thanks again

[@jacksnavely559]

Try gun show in rural areas, I just recently found 800 Dixie caps from old guy with boxes of stuff too go through, 5 bucks a hundred, left a hundred for the next guy also have good amounts of Remington 10s and 11s , these caps are very tight,Dixie is tight ,Lawton tight ,Milano very tight Fioccii very very tight , all work great , old guys have the stuff❤

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Yes we do! I just got some rem 10s from an older than me friend last week!

[@lugerstonecock]

I use CCI number 10's on my early manufactured Traditions Crocket Rifle and pistol both in .32 caliber.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

That’s great. My spiller and burr is the only thing I can find they fit!

[@GarethNichols-k1c]

Thank you sir for this information it has been so helpful and now I got a cap punch on its way. Just purchased a 1851 pietta.44 cal revolver and so excited to get started! I think the whole load process is very interesting and relaxing

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

You’re welcome and welcome to the cap and ball addiction lol. It is relaxing…the whole process. Stay in touch and let me know how you’re doing!!!

[@Gunsmith-4570]

Firstly I do not dislike where I live, but the area I live in is challenged we have no muzzleloader club our choices of gun stores are very limited,(one or 2 in 50 miles) the biggest interest in our gun community is modern guns. The most that you hear about muzzleloaders is during deer season and those will be in lines. So for a lowly cap and ball shooter there are not many resources. However we do have the nicest shooting range in a 250 mile radius, only paper no steel, but a large well built well attended rifle, pistol, and shotgun range. So it is not all bad but buying local is not an option most of the time. As a matter of fact the gun store closest to me hit me up for caps when they got in a revolver to sell😂 Thanks for your videos.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Good luck. You’re the cap supplier huh? Lol.

[@timothy____1989]

Today, 17 Apr 2024 Dixie Gun has RWS 1075s! 🎉👍🏼

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Wow! Thanks for letting me know

[@bunkstagner298]

have used a lot of #1075 caps and thy are excellent. On my Slixshot nipples they seem a bit smaller than #10 but I Just seat harder.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

@bunkstagner298 I use a lot of them! Nice caps.

[@Mr07191963]

In 2018 I stocked up, got @ 5000

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Me too. And I just did again. I’ll be good now!

[@LYMANHALL30]

I have a couple thousand cci # 11 caps . I wish when I bought them that I had purchased some #10.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

I hear cabelas has rem 11’s. Thanks

[@JohnDoeEagle1]

The shortage is artificially manufactured due to the nature of black powder firearms and how easy they are to obtain. They not only skirt around modern Federal and State firearm laws, they also circumvent many of the other "manmade" problem with other firearms. You can keep a black powder firearm shooting for much longer with little to no supplies. You can cast your own projectiles out of scrap lead stick on wheel weights, battery terminals, old junk fishing lures and sinkers, lead roof flashing and lead pipe etc etc. You can make and charge your own caps from raw materials. You can make your own black powder with relatively easy to obtain or get raw materials. Long story short you have many advantages over a modern shooter with a polymer frame striker fired 9mm smokeless centerfire pistol. He can barely fieldstrip and clean it, much less reload for it or make his own supplies or parts. If you do the math in your head it's easy to see what is going on currently. Save the fact that nearly anyone can walk into any store and walk out with nothing but a handshake and receipt after handing over the money. They aren't stupid and know they will become the go-to weapons of choice during Doomsday or end of the world type survival situations. I've always looked at it as a good way to layer yourself much in the same way of having archery equipment in addition to your firearms. You build enough layers, nobody will be able to shut you down or stop you regardless of how they try or approach it.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Thanks for your insight. In those situations you describe the smart approach my friend. Thank you.

[@chrisbinns6666]

Easy enough to make just a little tedious. Cheap and reliable.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Yes. It is tedious but it keeps them shooting.

[@mrweeby1961]

The Remington #10 fits my stock Pietta 1858 Rem. like a glove. The only problem with them, and it's not huge, is they will not fit inside the capping tool I have. They are slightly too tall.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

They fit my Ted cash capper great but it doesn’t work on a Remington 1858!

[@archer721]

I have a 2nd Gen Colt Navy made in 1971… I have to use CCI #10’s because the factory nipples are so small and I’ve never come across replacement nipples, I suppose there out there, but I still have the OEM nipples on mine.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

I have one too..,the general grant cased set. I’ve not shot it. That’s good to know! Thanks.

[@archer721]

@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb - mine’s a Grant also, square back… not sure I actually like that guard…

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

@archer721 cool. They are my favorite guards. It/they fit my finger well. But like all else in this hobby it’ll be different for everybody! I bought a 2nd model dragoon so I could have the squareback lol.

[@archer721]

@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb - well, it is my flagship piece of my collection, it sits on display with my Henry Arms 1860 and they make a beautiful pair. It’s the only one of my pistols that has never needed any modifications to function properly and very smooth. All of my others have needed an action job, to be polished and de-burred or have many sharp edges rounded so they don’t cut me. Right out of the box this pistol has functioned flawless… only thing is the smaller nipples. It’s a beautiful little pistol and I fully understand why it was Wild Bills favorite.

[@sleeperno1215]

I was told at Cabela’s they only carry them during hunting season.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

That’s new cause they’ve always had em off and on. Reflection of production I guess. Thanks

[@ChacoteOutdoorRecreation]

0.005 copper sheeting, ducco cement 1x 4 mixture onxy acetone remover from wally world, three red strip roll caps as shown on Hoffman Reproductions, if you know how to make powder and run ball from wheel weights at the tire shop, and find flint along the railroad tracks, it is very hard to be disarmed by events such as the collapse of our country, but the most important thing is training the next generation with these skills, because they will need it. No one had to train the boys that left bloody footprints in the snow from barefoot and frostbit Patriots on the road to Valley Forge about making do or conserving resources, that is our real weapon. Remember Rocky did not win every round but he got off the mat before the ref counted to ten, only you determine when it is over, and I like to think that still men are born that if not permitted to live free will show evil how hard a freeman dies.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Thanks!

[@joemolf3894]

Slix shot nipples I found may be a little long on pietta revolvers but I had no problem using them on my Uberties. They are too long so they either swosh out from being hammered or the cylinder won’t turn with the caps on. There’s a disclaimer on the packing that states they may not fit all revovers. They don’t work on my 44Sherrif model

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Hmmmm. I’ve not had the problem but I admit I mostly use them on my ubertis. I’ll look into

[@joemolf3894]

True story the first pietta I purchased a year or so back was a 44 sheriffs model it’s short. I’ve used slix shoot nipples in all mu uberties which I own several. They work as advertised . When I installed them on the sheriffs model they were too long I didn’t realize it until I went to fire the revolver. I had to coax each primary to rotate the cylinder to fire it. Then after firing it i could not get the caps back on the ninples lol! I ended up putting the old nipples back in with no futher problem. I was going to send them back but it says in black and white may not fit all configurations. Oh well I’m just happy it shoots okay

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

@joemolf3894 wow. I’ve had such good luck with Pietta not needing slix shot so that’s interesting. They help my 8 or so ubertis a lot!!!! Thanks. I will try it out on my 44?sherrif. That test is worth the $$$

[@isaaco5679]

The fear of availability was why I my first BP purchase was a flintlock great plains rifle.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Given the times..that a good decision my friend! Thanks

[@isaaco5679]

@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb also after watching the channel blackpowder everything I've decided to try making my own black powder.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

@isaaco5679 I haven’t gotten that far yet.

[@BigRooster616]

AMEN

[@tomcurran8470]

First time I saw you. I'm a follower of Blackie Thomas, duelist1954, and BP Maniac Shooter, et al. Good vid. The size difference of caps is confusing. The cheapest way to shoot BP percussion is just to say, "bang," while dry firing, LOL. Of course, flinters don't have the cap problem. Suggested dialogue: "Oh, so you have only six months to live. Too bad. BTW, can I have your caps when you're gone?" LOL.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

LOL! That funny. Welcome to my channel. I’m trying to do my best! I also follow that core group you mentioned! Just trying to contribute. Thank you. Didn’t know we’d need a line in our will for caps!

[@unr74]

I stumbled across a sporting good store that had a long forgotten stash of # 11 CCI caps . Maybe 18 cartons of 10 tins each. I’ve bought 2 cartons so far. I bought a couple of sets of #11 nipples and I’m good to go. Ok-$11.95 per , but I was happy to shovel out the cash. This is in April 2024 , the last #10s I found was in May,2023. The odd thing was the manager knows how scarce caps are and didn’t seem to mind hanging on to what seems to be dead inventory.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

There you go! I’ve had that happen once too. That’s why I ask! Congrats!!!

[@unr74]

@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb. A complete shot in the dark, excuse the pun. CCIs and Remingtons MIGHT become available again , maybe even at $6.99 , but why chance it? Hit a jackpot and walk away a winner- words to live by

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

@unr74 amen!

[@GenderSkins]

Jay some of the older Pietta revolvers from the 1970's, to 1990's use CCI #10 caps, as do some of the old CVA percussion rifles. But the CCI #10's I had, was per-pandemic production caps that I got back in the 1990's. There seams to be something different about the post pandemic CCI #10 caps, but I dunno what it is I just know that I have always used CCI #10 caps without any problems.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

I’ve heard that from others. Now, they are the smallest of the caps when compared. They are smaller than rem 10’s by good distance. I can sometimes force them on my first couple cylinders with stock nipples, especially pietta nipples, but after fouling begins…it’s a no-go. So I do use them from time to time and then switch. They also fit my pietta Spiller and Burr I discovered since I recorded the video. Other than that. Nada. But forcing them on does save my others a couple cylinders at a time. Thanks.

[@TacticalPortugee]

Whats the difference between regular RWS 1075 and the magnum 1075’s??

[@sleeperno1215]

CCI No. 10s are for my Pietta Spiller and Burr.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Me too I discovered after I did this video’

[@garyanderson2720]

Thorough;y enjoyed the video. Going to check out that cap maker tomorrow because there are no caps in my area. In fact I think I am the only one around here with a cap and ball revolver, Can't wait to find out why you don't like Remingtons I don't really care for them either. They don't feel right in my hand.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Thanks! They don’t fit me either! lol.

[@jertres2887]

What is the difference between the 22lrreloader #10 and the #11 capmakers? Thanks

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

I’ve never actually measured the size but the #10’s fit revolver nipples just like standard #10 caps and 11’s are a bit bigger. I have the 10 set up and they work fine on revolvers. I do not have the 11

[@doranmaxwell1755]

Yeah.. I bought a thousand CCI #10's a while back thinking like you that ... hey... #10 is always #10... Sooo.... having extra nipples.... I turned em down. basically all I did was chuck em up in the cordless drill and lightly touched the nipples with some sandpaper. it does not take much I took almost nothing off so I still have to press em on with a dowel or such but that is good. They don't fall off

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

I will look at doing that. I don’t want to make them too small for rem 10’s or Rws 1075 since I happen to have a bunch of both. Thanks. If I mainly had cci 10’s I’d turn all my nipples.

[@doranmaxwell1755]

@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb Yeah.. Like I said I have spare nipples for both Uberti and Pieta I copper flash plated the turned down ones to keep em from getting mixed up #11's will still work. they go on a lot easier I give em a little pinch. But generally those nipples are only for when I have nothing but CCI 10's Like I said I had bought a thousand of em and then a buddy gave me like 500 more cause they just would not work for him Someone also gave me 400 or so 'Navy Arms' caps that seem more like CCI #10's than #11's Really old caps.,. they look almost corroded but they all go off so far

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

@doranmaxwell1755 well there’s an idea! Thanks.

[@doranmaxwell1755]

@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb Another thing I do is I cut boards out of 3/16" plastic about 8" long and maybe 3" wide I drill and tap at least 12 holes in em. The holes are either tapped 12-28 or 6x.75 for Uberti or Pieta and When I remove nipples from a cyl I just screw em in by hand into the board. This does two things... One... it allows me to not lose the nipples (lost more than one down the sink drain) and two... I just toss the board in my ultrasonic cleaner. You could of course use a toothbrush and dawn and the scrub the nipples that way. The board allows you to do a good job but ultrasonics are down in the $30 range for ones large enough

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

@doranmaxwell1755 another great idea! I had an ultrasonic peel the finish off a revolver at only 10 minutes with dawn and water. I’m a bit gun shy.

[@BowieBowie-x9j]

I have been used number 11 Magnum CCI percussion caps I do have some Remington's but not as many as before but I will say this when I go to Walmart and they have their muzzle loading supplies out they do sell percussion caps and everything for their muzzleloading season and like you said it is hard to find percussion caps but with Walmart suppliers I can pick up three or four containers over a thousand caps through Walmart supplies of number 11 Magnum CCIs percussion caps and I also use appellate gun container I took out all the pellets out of it because it has a screw down lit and it's tinted container so I get my supplies that I get that away but some of the other products that they have they don't sell That's kind of the hard part right there but I've never had any problems because Walmart always gets their percussion caps from someplace and I usually go in there to buy 3 or 4 containers and they have a big box of them a big supply of percussion caps If you need percussion caps to go to Walmart

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

That’s great. I got some cci 11’s at Walmart last week. Around here they come and go but it’s great to have that resource. And I like those on my revolvers! I’ve got some rem 10’s but I spread them out! Thanks. I’m glad you’re able to get what you need!

[@as03uk]

well i just bought CCI 10s thinking they were the same as Rem 10s and was dissapointed when i couldnt shoot my new 1860. However, I didnt buy 1000 like you! Still, I feel like I should hold onto them given the rarity, incase a friend needs them. I tried pushing them down on the nipple, but they still stood too proud to rotate the cylinder. Luckily found a place with No.11s, so am heading off today!

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

So I did the same thing a couple years back. I can use them on a couple revolvers only! I’ve kept them for the same reason. Those 11’s will work!

[@as03uk]

@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb managed to get my hands on 3 tins of no.11s, and even ordered a maker kit as back up! I’m in the U.K., but saw a reenactor demonstration at Bull Run when I was younger and it’s led me to this point. Very excited to get going!

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

@as03uk that’s fantastic! Good luck and enjoy it all. This is a lot of fun! Stay in touch!!

[@gb123-ej8wh]

Buy twice your use and in a few years you’ll have a lifetime supply. Some of us make and charge our own caps

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Good advice. I bought twice my amount t and make my own! Thanks

[@donpenning7172]

CCI 10, old nipples with mushrooming filed off narrows the neck.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Thanks. I’ll check it out. They work great on my spiller and burr

[@knutetech]

Cci10 fit my colt pocket navy 36 caliber.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Well..that’s great! They fit one of mine too.

[@knutetech]

They do fit my Old Army, but they are very tight, & difficult to seat & get off if they don't blow off. Cci 11 for that one, or the Remington 10 that I have yet to find. Cci is available from Gun Broker for a premium price. I can get loaded 9mm & even .380 fmj for the price of those on Gun Broker.

[@scooterc6412]

Hi J, I finally found time to shoot my 1851 Navy! I had a friend video my first few shots. I used the 1075 caps and triple 7 powder. It worked out pretty well. I’m a tinkerer, so listening to the problems concerning caps coming off, especially on the first cylinder, I’m wondering if you could take a candle and soot the nipples before you put the caps on? Obviously, you’d do this BEFORE you load up the cylinders. The soot from a standard taper candle might solve that issue. I’ll try it out next time I shoot. Also, do you think it might be possible to take some 400-600 carbide sand paper and carefully size the nipples down a little to accommodate the cci # 10 caps? I don’t have any cci # 10 caps so I’m not sure if enough material could safely be removed from the nipples without compromising the integrity of the nipples structure. Another possible option to consider would be using a pair of snap ring pliers to stretch the cap out a bit. Or, grind down a small pair of needle nose pliers so you could set the cap on the very end and stretch the cap a little. I don’t know if any of these suggestions would solve the problem, but a little modification might do the trick. When I put myself in the era of when these weapons were new, I feel quite sure the men on both sides of the civil war modified and altered their weapons as the need arose. I like to think of it this way, the Colts and Remingtons of the 1840s-1860s were the Glocks and Sig-Sauers of their time. Surely the need to improvise, customize and adapt were prevalent then as it is now. I had an English girlfriend way back when I was young and she made a comment once that has stuck with me to this day! “You goddamn Americans! You have to change everything!” I replied, “Of course darling! It’s what we do!” 😂

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Hey. Glad you had fun. I like your tinkering ideas. I know you can turn nipples to get the smaller. Never done it. Anything that needed…I assume that’s what our forefathers did !!!

[@mikerussell6212]

Just bought some 1075 + ,cost for 1 tin delivered for 76:00

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

It’s the hazmat fee that got you. Those are great caps and you got 250 but that other fee is expensive. Keep your eye on bass pro/cabelas. They just had Remington 10’s available online.

[@timothy____1989]

My neighbor unloaded all his BP rifles and such last summer via garage sale, and I picked them up. I bowhunt and gun hunt, but this past fall was my foray into BP and it is addictive. My rifles use 209 primers, so there was a bit of a delay finding those last year, however he included more than enough to start with and I was able to pick up couple hundred which will last my lifetime-around Dec 23 i decided the 1858 Uberti revolver would be a nice addition to the BP collection -after procuring all the items needed to support that side of my new habit, I was unpleasantly introduced to the #10 & #11 shortage, including a rip-off from what appeared to be a legit site! A few months older and wiser I’m amazed you’re able to stay calm about this. It infuriates me that the CCI/Remington President keeps making videos about what great 🇺🇸s they are, etc etc but then they refuse to regularly produce any percussion caps. RWS is putting CCI to shame. Part of me has to wonder if there is a political aspect to it, because like others have said, not producing caps is driving people out of the hobby and keeping others from starting. Isn’t that a particular group’s goal-to keep firearms out of the hands of law-abiding citizens? I’m not saying there is or isn’t a nefarious objective behind this shortage, but it is VERY frustrating for people like me who go out and buy alllll the other BP accessories, only to find I can’t obtain 1 key piece. I’m slowly acquiring now the pieces to mfg my own caps, but I really didn’t want to have to spend that much time preparing caps just to be able to hunt ML for a week. I’m not giving up BP, but I doubt I’ll be able to interest my kids in this hobby. At least they like archery.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Hey. I couldn’t agree more. It’s folk like you who I’m most concerned about…new entries into the hobby. Those of us who been around have stockpiles or are used to this but it’s getting into it..getting that addiction satisfied …your the ones getting hurt. I don’t understand it from mfgs but I do I suppose cause we are a small market but geez…thanks for writing and getting going. Maybe we can get more caps in her market soon for your kids. But archery is cool. I use slot if RWS and they are good. But summer is when cci hits so get ready to stockpile!!! Be well

[@chaecoco2]

Graf and Sons has RWS caps in 2500/250 cap lots. With shipping and Hazmat works out to $0.16/cap. Last pricing on CCI #11's run about $0.11/cap. If you want to shoot your guns, rather than use them as paperweights, is the five cent difference really going to matter? I have been looking for CCI caps for going on four years now, and never had an email alert trigger, or seen them available in local stores. So the RWS caps being available saved the day. Making my own caps is where I draw the line. Just don't have the time.

[@leonardzydowicz3480]

Pedersoli Derringer

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Ok thanks

[@guardsmanom134]

I may have a solution. It's as reliable as storebought CCI brand... I just dropped a few videos on it, and also the reason why I was forced into the workaround... It's not from the economy or the war in Ukraine. It's all because of one thing- laws that shouldn't ever have passed the first sniff test.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

I’ll check you out! Thanks

[@RTOHIO]

I have heard that using primal substance with Potassium chlorate, bichlorate requires a complete cleaning after each use including disassembling the internal parts. Questionable nipple life

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

I don’t know. I’ve heard that too but I haven’t had any indication of that with mine. But it’s been a while since I’ve used homemade caps.

[@bobscruggs9051]

Nanchez has “ 11 caps

[@raysheppard8040]

I ended my shortage back in the novid non shut down, 22 sharp shooter cap maker and prime all. I got no clue what you are talking about

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Yup. That’s the way. Good on you!

[@Rumblestrip]

Remingtons portion that made caps got bought by CCI. Sharpshooter22lr i think it is has a kit to make our own... Sells the mix as well.... But that said, ive found the roll strip caps you can buy for cap guns at any dollar store works well if ya double up on em in each cap in a pinch. Im not there yet, ive got a few thousand caps still. The kit caps are cut from aluminum cans... They'll fit anything but they dont seal up due to how its cut.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Yea I know cci and Remington are owned by the same company. I’ve used cap gun caps and the 22lrreloader a lot. Luckily I don’t need them for quite a while. But I worry most about new shooters who don’t have supplies. Thanks. It’s a problem for our hobby for sure.

[@Rumblestrip]

@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb yes it is... I saw it comin a few years ago and got into flintlocks... Lol no caps needed... Had to find primers period from percussion caps or large/small rifle or pistol primers... Ive really slowed down on my BPCR... Sadly i have a 45-110 Shiloh Sharps thats been gathering dust more then its been making smoke for a few years now.

[@josephhaack5711]

The NRA needs to get involved!!!

[@Strutingeagle]

You have to seat the CCI 10s with the hammer to get them on all the way. Not a big deal but have to make sure the gun is pointed down range which you should be doing anyway incase the cap goes off while seating them.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

I haven’t tried that! Might be an adventure doing that.

[@Strutingeagle]

I never have had one go off yet while seating them. It gives a lot of flexibility in using whatever size caps you have on hand. @@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb

[@Steven-cr8ju]

Oh, I can order Remy #10 caps for $12 and after haz-mat, shipping, and tax the total is $56 for 1 tin. $95 fir 5 tins. Geeze.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

My my. Somebody has them? That’s pricey. I’d make em.

[@SirMillz]

If it gets any worse, I'll have to switch to Flintlock.

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

I hear you!!

[@SirMillz]

@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb i looked at the manufacturer of the #11 cap press. The image they have of the caps it makes look really rough around the edges. Can you confirm that is how they come out and that you haven't had any issues with them being that rough?

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

@SirMillz hi. Yes. They do have jagged edges from the press and it’s no problem at all. They just don’t work in cappers. Gotta finger install.

[@SirMillz]

@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb okay, thank you for the info. I ordered the #11 press and 2 primer kits for my Hawken 50 cal

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

@SirMillz that’s great!!!

[@michaelhayes7471]

I'm not buy anymore cap an ball guns an what I have are for sale

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

That’s a shame. Sorry to hear that and one of my concerns that you’re not alone! Thanks.

[@job38four10]

I to bought couple cans of CCI# 10 last year after I was down to 1 can of Rem/10. They did not fit my Uberti 1851 navy, I had to file down the nipples to use them. Then I bought Slix-Shot and Tresso nipples, CCI# 11 stays on S-S better. IMO I had the best fit with Rem#10 but Remington caps are just to hard to find, probably because that company dont care...... I hate Hate HATE home caps, they dont work in my cappers. To me thats a big deal, and I just dont understand why no one or no machinist on planet earth can make a cap press that can punch out home made caps nice and neat and round and uniformed like Remington's and CCI are, what is the problem, aren't there any smart machinist out there anywhere. America can put a man on the moon but cant make a decent cap press, thats BS............

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

I’m with you. Home made caps are for emergencies for me only. I’ve still got 700 CCI 10’s that are worthless lol. Luckily cabelas had rem 10’s a short while ago so I’m good for now. Thanks.

[@raysheppard8040]

Making my own What threats are you addressing 😂

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

Then that’s good. You have no threats. The threats are to running out of or making do difficult for those who don’t make them. No caps no hobby. That’s why I address making them at the end and on its own video. Most don’t make them.

[@raysheppard8040]

Far as caps falling off rub nipple/cone with bees wax after cleaning before reassembly

[@BrianBecnel-m1t]

I don't have the cash to buy a pieta 44 cal Colt army 🪖 but like I texted you the other day I am willing to trade my tradition 54cal. And I am willing to throw in 5 boxes of Remington Caps still in the box #11 talk to your friends and see if someone is willing to trade besides my wife leaving me I just went through cancer and had to move into an apartment so I don't have time to really wait to Long not trying to make you feel sorry for me just that thus is one of the things that gets me out of the house 🏠

[@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb]

I will.

[@BrianBecnel-m1t]

Thanks