PERFECT Modeler for Tube amp guys... maybe NOT for Modeler guys

UA Dream ‘65 Review LONG TERM ANALYSIS: Why it’s problematic as a “modeler” but fantastic as a tube-amp substitute!
0:00 Universal Audio Dream 65 pedal ONE YEAR LATER
0:38 UA Dream 65 v Real Tube Amp… SUPER CLOSE
1:47 UA Dream 65 v HELIX and other all-in-one Modelers
2:41 BEST SETUPS for UA Dream 65 Pedal
3:29 BEST USE CASE for Universal Audio Dream ‘65 pedal
4:24 KINESTHETICS are the Key! (UA Dream 65 Long Term Review)
5:31 The PROBLEM with ‘REALISTIC’… UA Dream vs HX Stomp and other modelers
6:28 TONES of all-in-one Modelers like HX STOMP vs UA Dream 65 !!!
7:27 How Tube-Amp realism HURTS the Universal Audio Amp Pedals
8:08 Why FEATURES make the UA Dream ‘65 a BAD MODELER
9:07 Despite Limitations… you should buy a Dream ‘65 Universal Audio pedal
Does Universal Audio make the best amp sim pedal?

[@Alex_Martz]

Your analogy of watching the sea at the beach vs watching it through a TV is exactly what modelers feel vs the real thing, and really good modelers is like watching the sea on an 8k ultra high definition TV but still not the same, this pedal feels like the real amp

[@andrefludd]

This was very interesting for me. I've been trying to learn more about speaker emulation and impluse responses, and this video taught me a lot even though I'm no not looking to buy the pedal.

[@BillySoundFarm]

Hey Andre! It's super encouraging for me to see you here, glad you liked it!

[@BillySoundFarm]

Just released a video with more comprehensive sound samples, if you're interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2anfomFn8uEh7M

[@kenwagner5667]

Great video! Thanks.

[@robsonf.vieira7248]

Thanks Billy!! You just sold one more :)) I'm definitely the tube amp guy that loves playing live an loud but doesn't wanna workout carrying amps that could crash because of a bump.

[@BillySoundFarm]

Cool, let me know how you like it!

[@sconni666]

If you get an adapter you can use headphones. I use them when I relax in my chair and play late at night.

[@BillySoundFarm]

Really!?! Which adapter?... I tried plugging studio headphones in there but the signal wasn't strong enough

[@sconni666]

@@BillySoundFarm Hosa YPP-308 Y Cable - 1/4 inch TRS Female to Dual 1/4 inch TRS Male

[@BobSince1981]

The knobs on it are so satisfying. 🤤

[@PhpGtr]

Excellent review! I really wanna try this now. Production - I have some issues. You have a jump cut literally every 5 seconds. Kind of looks weird and gives me a headache. Set yourself apart from other youtubers and don't worry about this crazy trend. The electrician story was great and I felt your frustration! Subscribed.

[@BillySoundFarm]

Thanks!

[@BillySoundFarm]

This one was actually the third in a series I did on this product, so you might want to check out the other two before making a purchase decision. There's another one or two coming but I don't think I'll be covering any new ground with those.

[@BillySoundFarm]

Just released a video with more comprehensive sound samples, if you're interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2anfomFn8uEh7M

[@justoenamigo]

Glad i watched this. Thank you.

[@calebwhitcraft1664]

I like your comments about preferring things not being complicated. I use a Stomp, but honestly I barely do anything with it -- I use presets from creators I like, I make some minor changes for my setup, and then I never touch it again. It's the only way I can get along with it. I've got a Simplifier mkII en route to try out, I opted for that over the UA for a couple of reasons (fx loop, balanced outs, power consumption), so we'll see how it behaves.

[@BillySoundFarm]

Cool man! Just FYI You can run the stomp together with that simplifier pedal in four cable so that all the effects are on your stomp, but you can still get drives before the amp and wet effects after the amp, and you get the simplifier in the middle for the amp but also at the end of the signal chain so that you get those balanced outs, etc. ... I do a similar thing with an HX effects (FX) and an HX stomp (amp), I did a video of it a few weeks ago if you want to check it out.

[@BillySoundFarm]

This is the video kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6fSi6aHdr9ppdk

[@BillySoundFarm]

No, sorry, not that one... This one kzbin.info/www/bejne/l32QoWaAaLpqa7s

[@Brucaleeffo]

thanks Christian Bale, that was a wonderful review. Sometimes we need in-depth opinions so pls don't mind people ranting about the lack of sounds

[@BillySoundFarm]

Thanks! I did a follow up sound demo afterwards, it's here if you're interested kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2anfomFn8uEh7M

[@snowyfrog7727]

This is a very thoughtful review thanks! I'll stick with my HX stomp

[@BillySoundFarm]

Can't go wrong with a stomp... Did you see the video I did on Dream 65 v HX Stomp?

[@BillySoundFarm]

Just released a video with more comprehensive sound samples, if you're interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2anfomFn8uEh7M

[@IntheDAW]

Ive actually noticed that the uad fender plugin sound apmost exactly like my fender amp but all the other stuff they have from plugin alliance and softube sound so bad compared to my axe fx and my real amps. I might really need to try out these pedals soon if they do the amp in the room sound they might be great for some clients while others will use my axe fx.

[@BillySoundFarm]

I haven't tried axe fx, I'm sure it sounds great. All the flagship modelers are so good now. This is probably the golden era of guitar gear: the algorithms are recently perfected, but tube amps are still around.

[@IntheDAW]

@BillySoundFarm almost all modelers sound amazing nowadays. But I still love using a real tube amp.

[@BillySoundFarm]

@@IntheDAW same here... Right now we can get modelers that are 95% as good as the tube amps, and we can also get the tube amps. ... Where does it go from here? I guess in 50 years they'll have modelers that are 97% as good as the tube amps, But the tube amps will be gone because the tubes stopped being produced. ... Right now is probably going to be considered the sweet spot by historians. These days we're living right now, these are the 'good ole days'.

[@ThatWhatIsNot]

I’m love the Dream 65. But, yes, it could be better. Would like more options for the switches (e.g., live on/off paired with tremolo on/off). Concentric knobs would also have been great so I could see what the trem settings were rather than having those knobs also responsible for other key functions. Still, it beats any other Fender blackface emulation I’ve tried.

[@BillySoundFarm]

don't mess with the knobs! These knobs are perfect!

[@ThatWhatIsNot]

Ha. For me, it means I rarely use the onboard verb and trem and instead use a pedal for those effects.

[@BillySoundFarm]

@@ThatWhatIsNot for me on the dream 65, the reverb is always on if it's on, and I use a foot switch to toggle the tremolo on and off (But the settings stay the same)

[@mkrj2576]

Blackface. If UA made the 65 a more generic bf pedal with the same trem and verb, but minus the “real” warts of a Deluxe I would have bought it already. I still may get it. Best thing about digital is you can keep the good and loose the bad but UA sort of missed that. Many of use love the simplicity of the one amp-one pedal deal like UA has done but loose the amp like drawbacks. Don’t make it more complicated though. I’d be happy with even less cab options if one is great sounding. Great video.

[@BillySoundFarm]

For what it's worth, as time goes by the "warts" are less and less prominent to my ear. For instance, when I shot this batch of videos there was like a 5-7 minute tirade that I had to cut out for length telling my most frustrating "warts" story with this thing. I cut it out and figured I'd post as its own video after all the others... So I went back and tried it get sound samples for that so that people could hear what I mean when I say that this thing is so realistic that it can sound like wet farts... I couldn't get the wet farts sound this time. So I've either learned how to use the things so well but I don't know how to use it wrong now, or my ear has gotten so used to warts that I don't hear them anymore, which is to say that my ear has become accustomed to speaker distortion. 🤷

[@jroobz]

i've had mine for a while too and I don't love it tbh. I think it's more of problem solver than a legit option I would pick first - like you need a direct solution that sounds pretty good, this is a great option. it's kind of unsatisfying to play vs an actual tube amp, but all modellers are like that. other negs for me are it has Marshall knobs (??) and I want to add my own IRs. Android app support is non-existant and I'd like an option to run a bypass out of one output. otherwise it's ok

[@BillySoundFarm]

You mean that the knobs look like Marshall knobs? Lol that's a weird complaint 😂

[@russellmusictv4403]

Marshall knobs on a Fender 65 replication, it's just funny that after all the painstaking work that went into trying to make it sound just like the original, they go ahead and put Marshall knobs on it 😂​@@BillySoundFarm

[@jeremytownsend6529]

Every statement is it's own cut scene. I just wonder how many takes you did.

[@BillySoundFarm]

lol not as many as you think... My editing philosophy is to try to waste not one second of the viewers time, so I cut out long breaths and "um" words, sometimes I even cut out legitimate conjunctions like "and" or "that"... So I could talk for 2 minutes and it be one smooth take but in post it'll turn into a dozen cuts. I probably overdo it, to be honest.

[@dogpdsound]

Why do i feel STUPID now after watching for 2:36 why?

[@timctone489]

uhh cuz modelers are all digital, digital will always sound better than analog....

[@OldGuy625]

If that thing took you year to learn, not for me. Why don't you just buy a tube amp? Although there are some great pedals out there, I have never seen a pedal that can re-create the dynamics of a tube amp?

[@BillySoundFarm]

I have tube amps, but this does some things that tube amps can't do... 1. No stage volume... 2. Fits in my guitar case... 3. Fits in the arm of my chair... But this is no substitute for a tube amp, more like a "next best thing". Everyone should have a tube amp. IMO this is the closest digital product to a tube amp experience. ... Also, it took me longer to figure out how to use it well is because I tried to use it like I use a modeler. It's too realistic for that, its way closer to a tube amp in the way it acts than it is a modeler. If I started with acting like it was a tube amp, I'd have gotten there much faster.

[@OldGuy625]

@@BillySoundFarm Thanks for the reply. I forgot about when I always had solid state amps. To have one of those back then would have been way cool!

[@mattsb17]

@@BillySoundFarm100% agree

[@therock1232100]

Talks about a pedal but doesn't even demo the sound.

[@BillySoundFarm]

You got it, bro!

[@BillySoundFarm]

Just released a video with more comprehensive sound samples, if you're interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2anfomFn8uEh7M

[@baseboardmatt]

Great video. But it’s 2023 and I’d encourage you to shed the term “tube amp guys”. There are tube amp gals out there too.

[@BillySoundFarm]

lol fair enough, I'll try

[@DIGITAL7Media]

Im pretty sure everyone who read that comment eye-rolled.

[@BillySoundFarm]

@@DIGITAL7Media maybe some people did but I didn't. I really will try to stop saying that, but if I'm honest with myself, I'm probably not going to be able to change.

[@jayandgem]

The term 'guys' is now genderless when addressing a group of people.

[@baseboardmatt]

@@jayandgem not in this context. If you ask girls and women that play guitar if they’d consider themselves “tube amp guys” I don’t think they are saying yes.