Perfect square cuts with hand tools.

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Rex Krueger

Rex Krueger

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@LAsoccerboy16
@LAsoccerboy16 4 жыл бұрын
thumbs up to have rex do tutorials this thorough for every aspect of life
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 жыл бұрын
You're very kind!
@dust9787
@dust9787 3 жыл бұрын
Here here! If, however, there were enough time and Rex accepted this task then he would surely be driven insane and then we would miss him.
@larsfrandsen2501
@larsfrandsen2501 3 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@brianmeanor7907
@brianmeanor7907 2 жыл бұрын
@@RexKrueger you are absolutely welcome 🙏🏼 love 💕
@ConflictedSwitch
@ConflictedSwitch 5 жыл бұрын
Rex: It's really idiot proof. My brain: Hold my beer.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
Ha!
@firebladex8586
@firebladex8586 5 жыл бұрын
Mmmmm beer.... I'm trying to cut back but it's hard not to pickup a couple of cold ones in this hot weather. Wait - what were we talking about?
@shadbird8772
@shadbird8772 5 жыл бұрын
The world makes a better idiot every time that some says “idiot proof”.
@VinlandAlchemist
@VinlandAlchemist 5 жыл бұрын
@@shadbird8772 Truth! lol
@itsneveralways
@itsneveralways 4 жыл бұрын
only if you sanitise it first.
@sidfinley6087
@sidfinley6087 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite Rex quote in this one, which has a Zen-like quality: " ... I'm just sitting on a milk crate. It's perfectly comfortable."
@JoeSolla
@JoeSolla 4 жыл бұрын
From an old fart who's lost a few of those hairs in my ears that pickup sound: Thanks for taking the trouble to speak clearly and at a consistent volume. I really do appreciate it.
@TheAirRon
@TheAirRon 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Solla and I offer the same thanks as a beginner woodworker who is hard of hearing.
@ancienttom97
@ancienttom97 4 жыл бұрын
Dito
@5amJones69
@5amJones69 4 жыл бұрын
Says exactly just what he needs to. Maintains personality. cuts the shit. Says it clearly.
@Lebowski69
@Lebowski69 4 жыл бұрын
@@5amJones69 this is why we love rex
@albertmagician8613
@albertmagician8613 3 жыл бұрын
And no stupid background music.
@chris_thornborrow
@chris_thornborrow 5 жыл бұрын
These videos make me more confident about woodworking whereas a lot of the stuff on youtube makes me feel worse. Truly these woodworking for humans series should be really successful.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
That's the idea! I'm glad it's working!
@eclear4evr
@eclear4evr 5 жыл бұрын
Chris Thornborrow Try woodworking for Mere Mortals
@gotshpilkes
@gotshpilkes 4 жыл бұрын
"...use your perception and common sense...." You neglected to prove a link to a store where I can get some of those.
@jameshaulenbeek5931
@jameshaulenbeek5931 5 жыл бұрын
Another good position to use either of the jigs is to clamp the cleat at the end of the bench (in the vice you added). It won't move, and you'll have both hands to easily hold your materials and tools.
@theeddorian
@theeddorian 4 жыл бұрын
To optimize handsaw cuts, use the knife-marking technique Paul Sellers calls a "knife wall." It is actually quite an ancient trick and if your saw is sharp and well tuned (doesn't show a tendency to turn in the cut), you get a clean cut with no tear out or hanging fibers. It works well. The knife cut also helps with creating clean shot surfaces with no broken corners on your work piece.
@negotiableaffections
@negotiableaffections 5 жыл бұрын
Lesson plans begin with good prep [basic, training/teaching 101], you're doing just fine. I can see you're trying to teach the mental approach to precision here, as much as actual precision. I think a lot of newbies [and its happened to me] go out and buy big 'all-shiny' WW tools/machines expecting automatic accuracy. . .and been disappointed! It should be made clear that your handtool basics are the beginning of all great carpentry/woodworking - the fancy equipment is NOT where the skill lies. Cheers Rex, I'm sure you're having a great impact on the furthering of wood working for future generations.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm trying.
@AhmetCnarOzuneUyans
@AhmetCnarOzuneUyans 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. As a newbie, I bought a fancy sliding Miter saw and even that doesn't cut very accurate. With most of the cut, I have to trim the end a little bit. And the machine never gives the satisfaction like you have when cut with hand. When you use hand tools, you have your muscles, mind and senses and concentration work and that makes you happy... And plus, machines always create dust and noise... But of course sometimes machines are very useful especially when cutting multiple pieces in same exact lenght and when you need to finish the work quickly. Rex, you are encouraging newbie wood workers in a very positive way for us not having feeling to need the best machine tools to do good work and have self trust and patience. Thank you :)
@1944GPW
@1944GPW 4 жыл бұрын
A Bench Hook exactly like yours was the first project my school woodworking class shop teacher had us make, many years ago. I have no idea what happened to it in the intervening years but thanks for this video Rex I will make a new one!
@TheRussRave
@TheRussRave 4 жыл бұрын
This was brilliant. I am just getting started in woodworking and have very limited tools. No proper bench (using an old table), no circular saw and no benchsaw. Getting edges straight was driving me nuts but this now gives me new hope. Thanks. You have earned a new subscriber.
@emm_arr
@emm_arr 4 жыл бұрын
14:30 onwards ... I tried to make a shooting board as a teenager. It didn't work very well. Then I made another. That didn't work very well either. Then I figured out that they can't work on a plane with a full-width blade - like the one I was using! Another good one, Rex. Thanks
@sirgouki6207
@sirgouki6207 4 жыл бұрын
There's a way around this, use scrap to elevate the plane so its flush with the work. Or you could skip adding the run (the part you set the work on) all together and just have a fence to press the work against. Then, just don't run your plane into your fence and you're good. You could also just use a squared piece of scrap as a fence, and make a disposable fence, but that would lead to more waste.
@emm_arr
@emm_arr 4 жыл бұрын
@@sirgouki6207 Thanks! My way round it was to get a Stanley No.6! I had made the mistake of fundamentally misunderstanding what was and wasn't accessible to the plane blade. I was only 14 and had more enthusiasm than ability back then!
@ethanmcmaster2994
@ethanmcmaster2994 3 жыл бұрын
"With my shop made square" I had to pause and look closer, because holy crap, I didn't think you made that yourself. That square is a piece of art itself. Have my subscription.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 3 жыл бұрын
You're very kind, but you can make one. It's really not hard and I have a video!
@davidwillard7334
@davidwillard7334 3 жыл бұрын
IT'S! !! A !! MUSEUM !! SQUARE !! NOW !!
@skjelm6363
@skjelm6363 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! One advice I got, with a smack at the back of my head, when I saw like you: "hey, I paid for the whole saw blade" ;)
@cav89-
@cav89- 5 жыл бұрын
I specially liked the end, where you did a sort of troubleshooting of the project. Im currently making the paul sellers’ bench and god, just cutting those big leg-frame rail’s tenons can be way too tricky. There’s just so many things that a beginner can (and will) will do badly, so the troubleshooting part is as important as the project description per se. And I didn’t even mentioned the mortises... I spent more time correcting the holes, and then correcting my corrections, than chopping them. After you overcome your frustrations and understand that you shouldn’t expect your joints to be perfect like the ones in the how-to videos, it is actually pretty funny to see each leg a little less crappy than the previous one. Thanks a lot for tour videos!
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 5 жыл бұрын
Paul Sellers has a bit of practice under his belt.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
Man, good luck with that bench. By the time I saw those videos, I already had a bench, but I've always liked that design.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 5 жыл бұрын
@@RexKrueger Paul Sellers bench is OK for him but it's not what I'd want. Skirts and tool tills take me out of my head space. Being a minimalist I just want a slab top. Ideally it would just float in the air. But in deference to physics I am willing to make some compromises.
@christiangeiselmann
@christiangeiselmann 4 жыл бұрын
This channel starts to really catch me with its "start with simple tools" approach.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@davidwillard7334
@davidwillard7334 3 жыл бұрын
Just !! Another! Handyman !! T.V !! SHOW !! THIS !! IS !!
@3henry214
@3henry214 4 жыл бұрын
Wife: Uh... Honey, have you seen the door for the kitchen cabinet where the pots go? Me: No.... I haven't a clue where it might have wandered off to... Great video!
@raymundostille7426
@raymundostille7426 4 жыл бұрын
Thought I was the only one with such problems..🤫
@davidwillard7334
@davidwillard7334 3 жыл бұрын
Wife : o.k Darling ! Im just going to make !! A phone call !! To get a handyman !! Repair !! The kitchen !! Cabinet !! The ! Invoice !! Will be sent !! To you !! Love !! You !! X !!
@ronmiller7916
@ronmiller7916 4 жыл бұрын
Tip: sink and glue a neodymium magnet into the end grain of the fence and the saw blade will still slide but stick to it. But I'd make the fence wider and taller but not taller then the saw blade.
@richardwiley5933
@richardwiley5933 3 жыл бұрын
Two great suggestions!
@thebeststooge
@thebeststooge 5 жыл бұрын
I have never ever been able to cut a straight line as I always arc no matter what nor if electric, gas, or human powered tool is used.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
It's a common problem. I'm trying my best to help.
@thebeststooge
@thebeststooge 5 жыл бұрын
I even tried using a miter box with a hand saw and still didn't manage to do it. I think the problem is that human arms are not perfectly straight and the natural want is to move our arms inward which is precisely the arc I cut.
@andrewgarratt5191
@andrewgarratt5191 4 жыл бұрын
The Best Stooge nobody comes on the scene able to do it,at all. Just like striking a strait line with a paint brush. Repetition is one key. A very carefully jointed,set,and sharpened saw is another. (Hiding my clock and putting on Nina Simone is a big personal help for me😂) Tear apart a lot of really old houses and you’ll find that even the guys who used handsaws everyday of their lives had a LOT of issues with it. The shooting board Rex shows is the life blood of fine true antique furniture. Crawl up under a Luis XV desk one day. One drawer has 3 dovetails..the other one big one,gaps and crooked cuts everywhere...it’s almost gross! 😵 But these were the TRUE masters,they knew the endless bumps in the road for achieving “perfection” They only got down to perfect joints where it was absolutely necessary...you only see a quest for “every single cut perfect” after the machines showed up...circa:1840 (water-steam) Full swing: 1870 (steam-electric) Now-a-days “for some goofy reason” its a trend and a brag to cut like a machine,be friggin proud of your crooked cuts!...Even Rex’s first example cut was off a degree or 3...but that’s just absolutely fine,cause he has a shooting board and had already predicted inevitable “Human error” 😁 because he’s not very carefully,highly calibrated ductile cast iron...”it’s gonna be some bumps in the road!” The only thing worse than a quitter is a fella scared to start.
@wilfred2547
@wilfred2547 4 жыл бұрын
!!!GET A GOD DAMN POWER DRILL!!! seriously you will not regret it.
@kimbanyc
@kimbanyc Ай бұрын
I am watching this eagerly whilst knowing I am not making that bench. Love the bench and this technique. One day I will have room for such a bench.
@nikburton9264
@nikburton9264 5 жыл бұрын
You should try putting a couple rare heart magnets in the end grain of your wood to help hold your saw tight to your fence.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
Seems like a great idea!
@sdcofer52
@sdcofer52 5 жыл бұрын
That's rare earth
@OjaioFansub
@OjaioFansub 4 жыл бұрын
That is exactly what I was thinking
@AlbertBeckers
@AlbertBeckers 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I learn a lot from you. But there is one thing I noticed when you were using your normal sas (2:03). My dad was a carpenter for most of his life and he tought me to place the shoulder and elbow (of the hand that is holding the saw) in the line of the cut to prevent the sawblade from wobling. Then you have an even better chance of getting the perfect cut you desire ..
@bluone84
@bluone84 4 жыл бұрын
The same should be done with his pull saw, I cringe everytime I watch him saw something
@Zuxxkij
@Zuxxkij 5 жыл бұрын
Rex is getting big! Nice job rex, I still remember finding you with 1k Subs and wondering how you didn't have more.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
I felt the same way! (kidding)
@davidwillard7334
@davidwillard7334 3 жыл бұрын
WELL !! NOT!! EVERYBODY !! WANTS !! WOODWORK !! SHOVED !! UP !! THERE !! BEHINDS !!!
@Vyseblues
@Vyseblues 4 жыл бұрын
It's quite nice seeing a channel that doesn't concentrate on costly tools that many beginners whom are just starting out, don't have the kind of cash to afford out right.
@markharris5771
@markharris5771 5 жыл бұрын
A great video as always. Congratulations on the 50k, well deserved along with James Wright you are one of the true gentlemen on KZbin.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@Pharesm
@Pharesm 4 жыл бұрын
Great video... I'm not entirely in luck though, cause I live on an island that has not a single piece of straight wood on it and certainly no Home Depot... Any tree they fell here, they'll cut it with table saws that have no fence - they just eyeball it and generally don't even try to be nice to beautiful tropical hardwoods like Mahogany, Tugas etc...
@patrickhoxie9175
@patrickhoxie9175 4 жыл бұрын
This guy has saved many of my projects and if I had to pay to watch his videos I would. Although since subscribing to him, my table saw and planer machine are getting lonely. Even my drills are starting to collect dust and My jig saw is basically just for T track. My router still gets some work but now that I’m getting better with my chisels, even he is collecting unemployment. My neighbors probably think I’ve either given up woodworking or that I dont have electricity anymore because my wood shop is a lot quieter . This bald Buckeye is one badass woodworker.
@bevanstuart9013
@bevanstuart9013 5 жыл бұрын
I continue to be impressed with your teaching style and obvious patience.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that.
@christianjacob1158
@christianjacob1158 5 жыл бұрын
I love this series, its like sitting in a class that you can work along with and it progresses building on what you learn. Thanks Rex!
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad you're finding it useful!
@andreachinaglia5804
@andreachinaglia5804 4 жыл бұрын
The bench hook and shooting board are really useful fixtures, the first one makes the work quick and the second one is really helpful to correct slightly out of square cuts. It is worth to make them, but it is possible to work without them. The real key of perfectly square cross cuts is the woodworker proficiency, there are no shortcuts to that, grabbing some spare wood, marking cut lines each one 1/2 inch apart from the previous one and practicing the use of the saw is the real "jig" that grants perfect results, it is like driving a car or motorcycle, you can not pretend to be a proficient driver in the first couple of hours you begin to drive it, practicing everyone becomes proficient, hand-eye coordination and muscle memory have to be build. And practicing like that pays a lot, as repeating a thing many times in a row is much more effective then doing it once then skip to an other thing. For the same reason when they study the musicians play over an over the same measure or couple of measures instead of playing over and over the whole piece of music. Also depending on jigs and fixtures can be a shortcut that can mask the lack of proficiency, but as soon as is no more possible to use them, let's say because the cut has to be very precise, but is out of square, the difference between building jigs and training your skills shows up... I have and use bench hooks and in am not suggesting in any way to don't build or use what you show in the video, don't get me wrong. I am only suggesting to the beginner woodworkers that strive to get good results with their saws to spend at the beginning few hours in training, with method and dedication. Only few hours, let's say 15 minutes at the beginning of each woodworking session, can build a skill that will help trough the whole life and it is NOT a waste of time in the long run as precise cuts need less time to be corrected with the plane if they need it at all and prevent a lot of problems in building something complex like a piece of furniture. Few hours of training at the beginning will make spare many hours later... I apologize for the text wall, but i could not find a shorter way to tell it.
@nixter8739
@nixter8739 4 жыл бұрын
Some 4 plus decades ago my uncle taught me keep my saws shiny. The reflection keeps your cut square. If the reflection looks like it passes thru and lines up with the board on the other side or if it looks like the board continues in a straight line (shorter pieces) you will be very very close.
@mikewilson8265
@mikewilson8265 4 жыл бұрын
My father taught me how to use and make tools in the 60's and 70's and he would always remind me that if you want to cut or plane or hammer something straight; your shoulder, arm and tool should all be in line as well. He was not a furniture maker by any means and; being Australian; we never worked with softwoods (they weren't really available until mid 80's). The main timbers used were Ironbark (Eucalyptus Crebra) and Forest Red Gum (Eucalyptus Tereticornis). Very strong and very heavy. Great channel and great advice.
@drzeus9449
@drzeus9449 4 жыл бұрын
That is about the only thing I remember from woodwork at school in UK with mad teacher. Having said that, I then never know where to put the rest of my body 😂
@PedroFaria
@PedroFaria 4 жыл бұрын
Great video but... OML!!! The disclaimer in the end... We have a saying in Portugal: "Para bom entendedor meia palavra basta!" Loose translation is: To a good "understander" a half a word is enough! (google translate: To the wise, half a word is enough!) I've been learning alooooot with your videos and even stopped obcessing with that next power tool that will make that specific job more easy and I gues that is the great thing - Practise makes perfection! In portuguese: "Pratica e serás mestre!" (Practise and you'll become a master!) Thaks Rex!! Keep up the good work!
@VinlandAlchemist
@VinlandAlchemist 5 жыл бұрын
This was pretty-darned cool! I've not seen such a detailed walk-through anywhere on making these very essential tools - thank you so very much, Rex! ^_^
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
Totally my pleasure!
@bsdnfraje
@bsdnfraje 5 жыл бұрын
Ive found it helps to make a second bench hook from the same materials*, without the top fence, to help support the tail of my board when it's fairly long. *Same thickness bed (the part Rex made from pine cabibet door) at least, which is all that really matters.
@thewoodworkingmetalhead2712
@thewoodworkingmetalhead2712 5 жыл бұрын
Or saw the one here in half...
@bsdnfraje
@bsdnfraje 5 жыл бұрын
@@thewoodworkingmetalhead2712 I've found the wider the cleat and fence, the easier a bench hook is to use.
@weedeater64
@weedeater64 5 жыл бұрын
I love my Roy Underhill inspired hooks. No screws, no glue, extremely versatile.
@bsdnfraje
@bsdnfraje 5 жыл бұрын
@@weedeater64 So hooks, plural. Glad you agree.
@Donegaldan
@Donegaldan 5 жыл бұрын
Enthusiastic, practical easy-to-understand concise explanations, while using basic hand tools.
@gwarlow
@gwarlow 4 жыл бұрын
Crystal clear narration, straightforward instructions and no annoyingly unnecessary music track. Where did you come from? Subscribed!
@TehEkHo
@TehEkHo 5 жыл бұрын
An addition to the bench-hook that may help true things up is a technique that I know as a "knife wall", essentially taking a wedge out of all four sides of the work piece, where that wedge is at 90 degrees along the cut line, and angled out into the waste. Done right it should guide your saw blade and would be brilliant paired with the bench hook. All that's required is good marks and a sharp chisel.
@papapabs175
@papapabs175 4 жыл бұрын
I remember my old man had one of those, now I know what it was for. I will make one of those for myself as I am left handed & never cut anything straight 😂.
@davidwillard7334
@davidwillard7334 3 жыл бұрын
LEFT !! HANDED !! TOOLS !! NONE !! AVAILABLE !! OHH !! HANG !! ON !! THE !! SCREWDRIVER !! IS !!
@Redgethechemist
@Redgethechemist 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, I like your idea of a shooting board, but what if your piece of wood is thicker than your fence? That's the kind of problem I was meeting using a miter box, should we think of making a fence thicker to be able to deal with big pieces of wood?
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
Some people make the fence very tall, but you can also just bevel the back edge of the piece to eliminate breakout and then shoot as usual. It's not too hard.
@mikenottis6252
@mikenottis6252 5 жыл бұрын
If you have a reflective saw blade, and you line the reflected image with stock being cut, you will make a square cut.
@ntherrington
@ntherrington 3 жыл бұрын
I love this “wood working for humans”.
@petermarsh4993
@petermarsh4993 5 жыл бұрын
Dear Rex, you were using the double sided Ryoba saw for cross-cutting and getting some wobbling and blade flex as you go. Try out a Dozuki saw which has fine teeth for cross-cutting and a solid spine like a tenon saw to stop blade flex. It really is a magnificent saw. Like your work. Accurate work comes from good craftsmanship, not expensive tools. Cheers.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
That's a good tip, but I think I'm gonna find an affordable Western back-saw. I just like those better.
@24framedavinci39
@24framedavinci39 4 жыл бұрын
A miter box would solve this issue for like $10 or $15. I think that's cheap enough to justify the price to headache of making your own ratio.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 жыл бұрын
If you throw money at a problem, then you learn nothing. What will you do when that miter box is too small? When you build your own (which costs nothing) then you can always just make what you need.
@24framedavinci39
@24framedavinci39 4 жыл бұрын
@@RexKrueger I hear where you're coming from and I do agree that learning a skill is always a good thing, but a miter box will take care of 99% of situations that come up. Also, most people, especially in western society, would just buy a miter saw. I do enjoy watching your videos though. I find the simplicity fascinating.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 жыл бұрын
That's a nice compliment!
@markprendergast6859
@markprendergast6859 4 жыл бұрын
Rex.. have you ever been described as the new Norm Abrams? It's nice to see basic skills taught simply..... before, you know, Delta starts throughing free tools at you to sell to your viewers. Keep up the common touch. Us cellar wood shop hobbyists appreciate it.
@hawciu
@hawciu 5 жыл бұрын
yes, hello there fellow human, I am a human as well
@MKahn84
@MKahn84 4 жыл бұрын
Love the use of the salvaged doors! Yet more good advice. Thank you!
@LegoMan-cz4mn
@LegoMan-cz4mn 5 жыл бұрын
How do you feel like using the reflection of the saw as a square reference? If you can see the edge of your wood in the reflection extends in a straight line you can see if its square to the face and if your going to saw straight down, lock yourself in that position and saw away, look in the reflection every now and then and it will be shooting board ready
@johntenhundfeld1529
@johntenhundfeld1529 5 жыл бұрын
I was about to add the same comment. Great minds same rut ...
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
That's a really good tip!
@mikecurtin9831
@mikecurtin9831 5 жыл бұрын
@@johntenhundfeld1529 Me too. This is why I read all the comments before making my own. :-) It works in both dimensions, too. You can see it really well at about 12:50. Thumbs up to crush a troll.
@LegoMan-cz4mn
@LegoMan-cz4mn 5 жыл бұрын
It works surprisingly well, you can do a lot with just eyesight. You can also do a miter this way, look if the reflection is square
@winstonpamphile9924
@winstonpamphile9924 4 жыл бұрын
Am a ones follower, your build projects are direct and I will be building the same tomorrow. Thank you!
@michaelzimmerman8959
@michaelzimmerman8959 3 жыл бұрын
I love that, woodwork for humans. Thanks for the video rex.
@nomercadies
@nomercadies 4 жыл бұрын
Have a technique to share if you wish. When positioning your body for cutting with a saw by hand, move into a place where the bones in your arm are directly in line with the plane of the saw blade. That way when you move forward and back, the only joints moving are your shoulder and your elbow. Your wrist with all its tiny bones stays relatively straight. The sawing motion is quite mechanical. Dummies.com says, "Each hand and wrist has 27 little bones. Think about all the different movements your wrists, hands, and fingers can make, and you can probably understand why they need so many bones: Many bones mean more movement. If they had just a few big bones, your hands wouldn’t move well at all and you wouldn’t accomplish much in a typical day." If you think of all the wrong ways those 27 bones can travel, you'll get an idea of how hard it is to make them all work together to have your saw stay true. You'e want your saw to move kind of like when you see the rod that goes from the piston on the side of a locomotive to the wheel moves forward and back without any sideways movement. (see action of locomotive at 1:00 in to this video) kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5bCgnR7aJZorLM If you position your saw and materials in the center of your chest, you'll be out of alignment for a straight movement. Every time you push forward, all the joints in your arm, especially your wrist, have to correct for the infinite angles and positions of the saw as it travels to keep the kerf straight and true. Elbow, shoulder, and 27 wrist bones to keep track of. The same thing goes for if you hold your elbow outside your body. All the tiny corrections you have to make continuously as the saw moves are more like ballet than the line dancing I'm suggesting. Bottom line, if you find yourself only swinging your arm from your shoulder joint as you saw, you'll find everything else in your arm stays pretty still. The saw moves straight and true. You've basically locked up all the movement and potential for error. This allows you to focus on your line and the plane your saw blade is traveling through as it cuts your board. Good?
@vmitchinson
@vmitchinson 4 жыл бұрын
Also relax and do not put any pressure on the saw. Just let the weight of the saw do the cutting.
@nomercadies
@nomercadies 4 жыл бұрын
@@vmitchinson Absolutely. Don't you think pressure on the saw is often a result of the sawyer lacking confidence? Kind of like a baseball pitcher trying to aim a pitch instead of just relying on the basics and training? Also, practice (for me) led to more pleasure actually doing the work. I think of when a beginner tries to play piano. It is great the full size organ came to be so head phones could be used and the only person tortured by the practice is the beginner. Then, as it becomes easier, you can MAKE MUSIC. Actually, a good successful stroke of the saw is like music to me. Mr. Krueger has a nice little gig going on here.
@nomercadies
@nomercadies 4 жыл бұрын
Observe Paul Sellers rip a board with good body and arm position. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4rTk6mZrcdgbq8 Starts at 4:18 Mostly his elbow and shoulder are working like parts of a machine.
@FernandoSV
@FernandoSV 4 жыл бұрын
he says it's not my fault... but it kinda is
@timothyplumley6004
@timothyplumley6004 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job, I really enjoy the manner in Which you communicate the subjects explained . Keep it up Mr awesome mere mortal.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
Don't get confused. I'm human, but I'm no mortal!
@quinnmendel449
@quinnmendel449 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry if I'm misinterpreting what I saw... I noticed as you were using the pull saw a couple of times it seemed like you pushed your work and bench hook away from you. This makes it seem like you have too much downward force on the saw during the recovery stroke. The cutting should only be during the pull and there should be no force (maybe even a little lift) during the push. Also, your bench hook is directly in front of you on your Roman bench so your arm has to be slightly diagonal to your cut with this positioning. This will make it more difficult to maintain perpendicular cuts. I've always been told that you want your arm to move perpendicular to your body and perpendicular to your work.
@barry-cq4xg
@barry-cq4xg 4 жыл бұрын
your videos are great and so encouraging for new workworkers like myself. all the best for the holiday season and a happy and healthy new year.
@duncan94019
@duncan94019 5 жыл бұрын
Rex, Great as usual. But why not make the fence higher? That way those of us who are not as proficient may have a easier time keeping it at 90 degrees.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
I don't want my jig getting too bulky. As I said in the video, make it to whatever size YOU want.
@duncan94019
@duncan94019 5 жыл бұрын
@@RexKrueger Good Point. I know you support people doing whatever they want. I know you think carefully about what you put in your videos, so I wanted to understand your thinking. I'm going to start with your design and see how it works for me.
@scannon90
@scannon90 5 жыл бұрын
I was grateful that you addressed the use of pull saws because that is pretty much all that we have access to in Japan, and there isn’t much information about their use even on KZbin Japan.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
I admit, I'm not very good with these tools, but I'm working on it!
@RobotronSage
@RobotronSage 4 жыл бұрын
DUDE THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN DOING ALIGNING THE SAW AGAINST THE SIDES OF THE PALLETS I WAS SAWING. Intuitive ! I really fucking need a better saw though. I saw (lol) some in a store but it's now closed due to corona
@chrisc4239
@chrisc4239 4 жыл бұрын
You asked for pull saw tips and I know one that really helped me. I do not know if anyone has said it and if they have Im sorry for the repeat. Use the metal mirror reflection on the side of the saw. When you are aligned perfectly vertically the mirror reflection lines up perfectly with the wood as if it were 1 continuous piece of wood. Try it and you will see what I mean. It doesnt take long to get the hang of and definitely helped me. Just keep checking it every few seconds as you saw.
@davidgagnon2849
@davidgagnon2849 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Rex for this channel. Once again you've shown how to make something with minimal tools. Many starting out don't have, or even have access to, the tools shown in others' videos showing how to make a shooting board. Applause and Cheers!
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
Well, i send gratitude and respect back towards you.
@DullPoints
@DullPoints 5 жыл бұрын
Wait, you guys are having fun? My hobbies are life and death!!
@nicmasterdude
@nicmasterdude 5 жыл бұрын
Rex, your $30 vise is perfect for grabbing your bench book's cleat and keeping the whole thing immobile. When I had a leg vise I used to clamp my cleat up to make repetitive cuts less laborious. Fantastic video as always.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty happy with it, too. Glad you think they work well together!
@benjaminfrayser4392
@benjaminfrayser4392 5 жыл бұрын
Freaking brilliant, Rex! Thank so much for your videos. I am trying to self-learn. Your channel is one of my go-to's
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
You totally can teach yourself. Glad I can help a bit!
@Tensquaremetreworkshop
@Tensquaremetreworkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Engineer here. Blood boiling. There is no such thing as a 'perfect 90deg angle' Everything has a tolerance. The smaller the tolerance you want, the more expensive the kit needed to achieve it.
@RickBoat
@RickBoat 5 жыл бұрын
Rex, at this point, its time to make the "woodworking for humans" reference page. It would obviously link to the playlist, but would also reference a list of made and of bought tools so far. Also, i almost always knock chips out when shooting crosscuts. I know i know, shoot so the chip will be on an inside corner... cant always do that. Thoughts?
@nicmasterdude
@nicmasterdude 5 жыл бұрын
2 ways I avoid this: 1) chamfer the fence side edge just a smidge with a chisel. 2) make your fence sacrificial/ use a backer board that you have perfectly parallel edges on to keep the work aligned. I have a couple hardwood strips that are about a foot long and perfectly square, but the grain wasn't pretty enough to save for detail stuff. Makes great backer boards for shooting. 3) leave the stock slightly oversized and plane off any chip out. This one is the least reliable. Chip out can be unpredictable.😁
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
These are both good suggestions!
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
I think you're totally right. But maybe it deserves its own page? ww4h.com?
@RickBoat
@RickBoat 5 жыл бұрын
@rex kruger no, dont dilute your brand. Your home page needs a prominent link to the wwfh page on your site. Then update the descriptions for all the wwfh vids to show a link there, the encyclopedia, the repository for all things wwfh.
@tinadriskell4469
@tinadriskell4469 4 жыл бұрын
I can't saw a straight line. Now I know why. You are my hero!! Thanks for doing these. I now have a bench hook, and my shooting board is next. I even scavenge a cabinet door from the trash to make it. coincidence, but funny.
@flowergrowersmith449
@flowergrowersmith449 5 жыл бұрын
Great Rex. I made a bench hook in a furniture-making course I did and have kept it all these years. A really useful tool..
@chrismartin5870
@chrismartin5870 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice job Rex, well explained.......I'm new to all this.....but Paul Sellers often marks out a "knife wall" first using a sharp craft knife before he cuts across the grain. Should I be doing that before i use the bench hook or is that unnecessary / overkill? Thank you
@benjaminadair9548
@benjaminadair9548 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy watching all the videos. One thing about my first Irwin ryoba pull saw. It does not care for staples. I have 1 in shop and 1 in both job boxes. Great tools . Thanks REX.
@Poitisan
@Poitisan 4 жыл бұрын
got annoyed at my horribly off edges when constructing a simple desk top stand. remembered this video, sat down, watched it, had a snack.got a better idea now. can I just upscale these tools you presented to align my cuts better when cutting from big boards? (ugly rough wood wool boards, 650mm x 2200mm, target pieces are 1200mm x 250mm and 350mm x 250mm)
@henrysiegertsz8204
@henrysiegertsz8204 4 жыл бұрын
Rex, the "King" of KZbin woodworking! Love your videos!
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@bjmaynard01
@bjmaynard01 4 жыл бұрын
Great content, am I missing the link to the counter sink bits for a brace?
@rgakballantyne
@rgakballantyne 3 жыл бұрын
Thank's for all thw wood working advice you've been giving. I've been following them and most of my project turned out better I hoped. And my wife has been very pleased with the thing I've made around the house. Keep up the great work.
@dinkledord7026
@dinkledord7026 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you're happy making the videos :) they're nice to watch
@magicdaveable
@magicdaveable 5 жыл бұрын
Rex, watching you sawing with your "Pull Saw" it is obvious that you haven't yet become comfortable with the pull stroke to saw. It will take lots of practice to not apply pressure on the "push stroke."
@drzeus9449
@drzeus9449 4 жыл бұрын
I have no idea whether my saws are push or pull but I have noticed one hates being pushed.
@awatt
@awatt 4 жыл бұрын
Plane a small chamfer on the edges that are attached to the board. That way any dust or sharp edges on the thing you are cutting have somewhere to go.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 жыл бұрын
That's a crucial tip that I missed.
@rohitbaramdoyal8282
@rohitbaramdoyal8282 4 жыл бұрын
Great video bro. Would like to know how to make the wooden bench vice. Looks great. Thanks
@sirgouki6207
@sirgouki6207 4 жыл бұрын
He made a video on it, and even mentioned that video near the beginning of this one. Here it is kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpanhKR8ecabotE
@MaryAnnNytowl
@MaryAnnNytowl 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! So, here's a like and comment for the Almighty Algorithm! 🙂👍🏼❤️❤️
@tashapalmer4519
@tashapalmer4519 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I made a bench hook last year when I first got back into woodworking. I didn't really know what to do with it. Now I do! Thanks :)
@valdezstewart5379
@valdezstewart5379 4 жыл бұрын
I didn`t intend to make use of this woodworking book, t.co/SGIXIPXR0z but rather curious about it. I had been truly amazed right after trying it. It never disappointed me in my wish to acquire more information about the art of wood working. Many topics were covered, including everything from wood types to developing your workshop.?
@theeddorian
@theeddorian 4 жыл бұрын
There a couple things that might be useful for some. I don't glue down the fence or the hook. The fence does tend to wear, and if, like I do, you use the same board to shoot and to crosscut it can gradually get a bit ragged. Not gluing the fence make it easier to replace. Another thing I do, since I have a regular bench, is to catch the hook in the face vise. That eliminates the problem of a saw snagging and dragging the board or causing it to rotate.
@johnland7318
@johnland7318 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Rex. I've got and use both of the saws that you demonstrate, BUT, your technique with both saws is not one to guide a novice to the fabled square cut. For 55 years, I've been cutting wood with hand saws, and have found its considerably more ergonomic to stand up to use a saw. The next point is your position relative to the saw cut. With both saws you SIT!! squarely behind the cut. With the pull saw your crotch was in the way of the action. But the chief problem with your position is that your forearm,wrist, and saw blade, were not in a straight line. If you stand just to the left of a right handed saw cut, with arm and saw inline, your elbow can swing past your hip, with these adjustments a straight cut is easier to achieve.
@thorforsell1300
@thorforsell1300 5 жыл бұрын
Every time I run into a problem with my budget woodworking, you upload a video solving that problem... this time it was square cuts with a pull saw, a few weeks ago it was finding a cheap, thick-threaded screw for my vice. One day I will make a video on my kit to show it off, but the oak I looted has to dry first ;)
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that! I would love to see a tour of your kit.
@bwillan
@bwillan 4 жыл бұрын
Making a square cut on a board with a handsaw comes down to good technique (body mechanics mostly) and having a properly set, sharp and tuned saw. Your inexpensive japanese pull saws should be more than capable of cutting square. Paul Sellers has a youtube channel dedicated to woodworking with handtools and demonstrates many techniques on how to crosscut boards square in all directions.
@CurtisMassey
@CurtisMassey 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel is full of great stuff, and you're a pleasure to watch.
@kerryfoster1
@kerryfoster1 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Red but you could just buy a $5 mitre box which will have straight cut slots. 90° cut every time.
@nerfytheclown
@nerfytheclown 4 жыл бұрын
I was watching on my phone and noticed that your saw jig diagnosis was inaccurate. The block itself was nice and square, even compared to the main body of the platform, but a bow in the wood actually made the last inch bend down and gave you that gap on your square.
@jimwilliams2682
@jimwilliams2682 5 жыл бұрын
Great projects! I have seen saw guides with magnets in one face. Perhaps a super magnet or two would be helpful on the bench hook. I need to rebuild mine and I am thinking of adding the magnet. I'll let you know what comes of it.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 жыл бұрын
Please do let me know how it goes!
@skiphayes1795
@skiphayes1795 4 жыл бұрын
I like your stuff. Don't agree with all you do bu like it. will be at new patreon soon. keep up the good work.
@totheknee
@totheknee Жыл бұрын
In my mind, you're saying "shooting" board. But am I wrong, and really it's a "chuting" board? XD
@wdtaut5650
@wdtaut5650 5 жыл бұрын
To each his own. This must be working for you. I find it far more efficient to stand at the bench when sawing. Sitting cramps my reach and results in the short saw strokes shown here. For me, it was better to learn to saw straight and square without guides, jigs, or fixtures. Sure, it took a while (less time than I anticipated) and used some wood. It is way easier in the long run. There are still times to use my bench hook and shooting board. The bench hook is highly recommended for a woodworker's first shop project. Mine is well scarred. Plane the finish off? OK, I guess, but I much prefer a scraper. Depending on the job, that's why they invented Citristrip.
@CorbinMusso88
@CorbinMusso88 Жыл бұрын
Woodworking tips for humans…by an obvious alien. Still good tips though. 😂
@elcatrinc1996
@elcatrinc1996 2 жыл бұрын
Every video i watch of you just shows me how much me and my father have been complicating our own lives for a very long time, luckyly i have the time to correct those mistakes when i strat my own solo projects
@scientious
@scientious 4 жыл бұрын
Why would you build a bench hook when you can buy a deluxe Stanley miter box with a saw for $23? It's a hell of a lot more accurate than using a bench hook and it will work with the pull saw. Your own video shows the bench hook wiggling around as you try to cut with it.
@Cancun771
@Cancun771 2 жыл бұрын
The setsaw teeth will gnaw away at the bench hook constantly and ruin it. Just get the Z-saw guide set and get on with it. Best 60 bucks I ever spent. The only saw guide I know of that gets around the problem.
@markwhitis
@markwhitis 4 жыл бұрын
The Ryoba Pull saw link links to the wrong saw. Single vs Double sided. Worse, as pictured the handle curves down so far that the saw cannot actually be used in some of the ways shown in the video, though that may be adjustable.
@mikesmith2102
@mikesmith2102 5 жыл бұрын
Quicker videos are great.
@jeffreyfisher4679
@jeffreyfisher4679 2 жыл бұрын
I fear that small bench hook used as a shooting board puts you at very high risk of dropping the plane off the bench. Make the real shooting board. Another saw alignment helper is to simply draw a line on the bench hook or bench top. Just a nice dark 90 degree line. Sight down the saw (proper technique anyway) to see that you are parallel to the line.
@enm53
@enm53 4 жыл бұрын
hey Rex just a thought, do you think it would be possible, beneficial, to glue a small earth magnet into the edge of the bench hook fence to act as a magnetic saw guide?
@VeeAyyDee
@VeeAyyDee 4 жыл бұрын
Now we know how to cut DEAD square, but what we do with squares that are still ALIVE
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