Perfect support for opera singers-Appoggio in sensations and action-Singing in one register

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TenelliVoiceGuru

TenelliVoiceGuru

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14:10 practical excercises.
How to feel and sense appoggio.
Appoggio is step by step method of breathing(support) that works and supports natural placement or one register in voice production.

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@Janibeva
@Janibeva 11 жыл бұрын
Think is not very nice from you tell the teacher he talks a lot. I found his words very helpfull and he explains with all details. Over all, he is teaching without win a penny for this, so, we should be glad to have him here!
@annmak7116
@annmak7116 4 жыл бұрын
I watched this last year. However, I was looking for a quick fix and had no patience to take in every word of the video. Last night, I watched Tenelli's videos again and listened to all his explanations. I couldn't believe how useful it could be, particularly this one about support, I finally understood what it means by support! I really regret that I didn't listen to the video fully. I have missed one year's time.
@davidsinger67
@davidsinger67 11 жыл бұрын
I have been rebuilding my voice after years of sickness and you have been immensely helpful! You remind me quite a bit of my former late teacher Margaret Harshaw.
@MendelMarkel
@MendelMarkel 12 жыл бұрын
Appoggio support is so important and it is surprising how little focus is placed on this even by notable voice teachers. I am blessed to have a teacher who started from the breath and builds on that. It has made my journey infinitely more constructive. Thanks for sharing this! Mendel
@TotalSinging
@TotalSinging 13 жыл бұрын
So few teachers know this technique and even fewer teach it properly. I have had great success in introducing this kind of compression to my students. To a lot of people the sensation in the body can feel very strange but once you get used to it, the sensation fades into the background.
@moggiee1
@moggiee1 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your generosity in sharing your expertise with us. Invaluable lesson!
@KhazanaAli06
@KhazanaAli06 Жыл бұрын
Omg thank you so much! I now FINALLY understand how to FEEL instead of just understanding theoretically. Its been one year and this cleared up everythingggg!!!! Thank you so so so muchhhhhhhhhhhhh!
@meiada
@meiada 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr. Tenelli! I have watched all 6 of your videos. This one is very helpful. I have finally understand what you've been teaching through watching this video. Thank you for your time and effort. I am sure many people will sing better after watching your teaching. You are a very given person.
@Huaimek861
@Huaimek861 12 жыл бұрын
Absolutely thrilling !!! I always wanted to be an opera singer . My father afforded for me to go to drama school and have some singing lessons , but not to the level that I would have liked . Maestro Tenelli I understand completely what you are saying . I am now 75 and still have a voice , though little used . I think maybe I can follow your lessons and teach myself to sing . I follow with enthusiasm young singers ; many are told they must sing big for Verdi , this upsets me so much .
@gabutdoang239
@gabutdoang239 Жыл бұрын
Hi sir, are u still alive?
@tehextra3907
@tehextra3907 Жыл бұрын
@@gabutdoang239 LMAO
@tehextra3907
@tehextra3907 Жыл бұрын
How do u push yr diaphragm down??? Expand your lungs more?
@gerharring
@gerharring 10 жыл бұрын
This is great info Maestro and very kind of you to give your time and expertise so generously. A word to "Stuart darling". Why are you so negative and whining all the time,
@samsschool3639
@samsschool3639 5 жыл бұрын
BRILLIANT! I want to be able to sing nessun dorma like you is my biggest wish
@evesilver-cheetah-ladyhealer
@evesilver-cheetah-ladyhealer 10 жыл бұрын
Maestro, I so appreciate your lesson: natural placement and dynamic opposition of the diaphragm. It appears to be a greater conservation and use of energy with a much purer vocal result.
@sycilmathai
@sycilmathai 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome- if you really listen to the difference in his voice with and without proper appogio support you'll hear how much more resonance he attains when singing with proper support. Quality resonance is the only thing that seems to separate good singers from great singers.
@bodiloto
@bodiloto 2 жыл бұрын
Su il Mathai Non è vero . il vecchio
@tobimcgowan960
@tobimcgowan960 10 жыл бұрын
skip forward to 15 minutes if you want exercises
@VIDEOHEREBOB
@VIDEOHEREBOB 9 жыл бұрын
This might need to be watched more than once. Outstanding.
@juliancomeau2732
@juliancomeau2732 13 жыл бұрын
@TenelliVoiceGuru I am 15 years old and I'm a high baritone/low tenor. I've been singing "seriously" for about 7 months without any operatic training whatsoever. I was singing along with you, and at first I was really annoyed by how I couldn't keep my larynx down. When you sang the C, I sang along and hit a perfect C5. I felt no strain and the tone was good (I recorded it to make sure). THANK YOU! I think I'll subscribe and watch your other videos. I'm really excited. Keep up the good work :).
@TenelliVoiceGuru
@TenelliVoiceGuru 11 жыл бұрын
In many of my videos I speak and show how to discover a natural placement. Mouth position should be relaxed and open like on the word Father. Tongue position is individual but the best one when it's flat, larynx like in a yawn position.
@justtobeblunt8282
@justtobeblunt8282 9 жыл бұрын
what you talk about here, pushing down is 100% correct and it does take energy but you develop endurance over time. I use that technique and i didnt even know it. but yes it is so useful and incredibly important to learn.
@ana.stuhec
@ana.stuhec 7 ай бұрын
This was so so so very helpful!! I heard my vibrato for the first time ever!!!!
@TenelliVoiceGuru
@TenelliVoiceGuru 12 жыл бұрын
I said many times in my videos that all the sensations are personal and your friend has the right to feel her his own way. Imposing your own sensations on other singers is a mistake that lasted for too many senturies. One cannot expect new technique just to be established through understanding only, because it's incomplete. Complete understanding comes only with experience. Develope strong muscules: only then you can rely on appoggio. Just pushing down will not be complete, you need a natural p
@TenelliVoiceGuru
@TenelliVoiceGuru 10 жыл бұрын
the higher you sing the more pressure you apply if you're using the same voice through. If you sing higher with lighter support then register change is inevitable. Soft palate is in a raised & round position like a dome in a church. If your soft palate in a low position your voice most probably sound quite nasal.
@nanettetredoux7613
@nanettetredoux7613 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your technical knowledge so generously.
@BrettOwen71
@BrettOwen71 8 жыл бұрын
I love your videos and instruction. So detailed and well explained. Thank you!
@lisajin3141
@lisajin3141 9 жыл бұрын
I'd really like to learn to sing higher and improve my voice, I'm loving your videos, I support the idea that there is only one voice :)
@Fetrovsky
@Fetrovsky 8 жыл бұрын
+lisa jin Want some coaching?
@palauapple
@palauapple 12 жыл бұрын
you are a very good teacher, I really appreciate you trying to get the message across us, the average singer with average understanding of singing. I totally enjoy it. Thanks.
@TonyDi
@TonyDi 12 жыл бұрын
As always Mr. Tenelli - you're instruction, techniques and easy-to-understand and grasp ideas and demonstrations are yet my favorite tools and I watch your videos incessantly. Having had a few vocal problems and as I age, losing a lot of the upper register notes, I am having to be much more cautious about how I use the voice and your lessons and techniques help and have helped tremendously. I'll keep watching and appreciating. Thank you again for your expertise.
@geraldgunia3092
@geraldgunia3092 7 жыл бұрын
Driving myself to be more developed as a human Thank You for your iput.
@bettyshafer743
@bettyshafer743 12 жыл бұрын
I am interested in learning how to sing without damaging my voice Since I am "Older" I feel I need to be more careful. I appreciate your generosity!
@TenelliVoiceGuru
@TenelliVoiceGuru 13 жыл бұрын
@aryankhah For those who don't have acual teachers, they need to record themselves constantly and listen to recordings as aften as possible. Ideas don't make great singers:experience does. Teacher is there to point out on fine things that actual singer never feels or hears himself. When one follows just ideas, without understanding the proccess as a whole, might be in danger. In your case find good natural chiaro scuro timber and develope it without a compromise, but you need someone to tell
@MrJohanncriztian
@MrJohanncriztian 12 жыл бұрын
My goodness you have no Idea how wrong I was....you opened my eyes, my teacher she is really good, but your explanation it is so assertive, now I understood what she meant!..
@MustacheVerra
@MustacheVerra 13 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video lesson.
@Cookie82772
@Cookie82772 Жыл бұрын
This channel is gold
@juanpablopinoarauz
@juanpablopinoarauz 4 жыл бұрын
Miss your channel! Hope you come simetime.. Regards!
@aleidisdesmet7469
@aleidisdesmet7469 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU ! Finally a sensible explanation of "support". Just subscribed to your channel. Thanks a zillion.
@TenelliVoiceGuru
@TenelliVoiceGuru 13 жыл бұрын
@infernalphast9 Thank you:) appoggio is not meant just for Opera. It's a perfect, most balaced support for any voice production. as for your feelings(sensations): Do u meant easy like falsetto? or breathy like falsetto?
@Huaimek861
@Huaimek861 12 жыл бұрын
I am a fan and aquaintance of Salvatore Fisichella . He was taught by Maria Gentile and his breathing technique is that for a woman . One time I met him after a performance , when he had a group of his singing students accompanying him . I stressed to the youngsters not to push their voices , that we prefer to hear beautiful voices , not big ones , just place your voice and let the sound come out . Maestro Fisichella said , " Si , devi Appoggiare ". Rosa Ponselle is a great example .
@mayorov1
@mayorov1 12 жыл бұрын
Excellent!. Best advise I have seen in a while!
@peneleapai
@peneleapai 7 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video. Grazie ancora Maestro Tenelli
@sinkeo789phommachack9
@sinkeo789phommachack9 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for teaching how to sing high note
@bettyruggeri1127
@bettyruggeri1127 Жыл бұрын
Caro maestro sono impressionata dalla tua magnifica voce e soprattutto dalla perfetta tecnica, ma basta con questi video in inglese pensa a noi italiani, abbiamo estremo bisogno di maestri come te fai video in italiano, che facciano uno sforzino gli angli, di traduzione. 😆😆😆
@icysamurai1485
@icysamurai1485 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! This helps so much, even though I don't do opera!
@myrtomusic1559
@myrtomusic1559 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much !
@alejandroflores4022
@alejandroflores4022 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for spreading your knowledge, cheers!
@MultiHeXs
@MultiHeXs 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!! it helped me a lot! Thank you very much Franco :)
@peterb1022
@peterb1022 3 жыл бұрын
Franco, I have a big question that I can’t understand. What happens in terms of physiology when you talk about this diaphragm opposition? What happens to the lower abdominal muscles and what happens to the lower ribs? What are the movements during this opposition? Please help!
@MariosPOS
@MariosPOS 2 жыл бұрын
i'm trying to understand this too
@Vanbasiast
@Vanbasiast 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, Mr. Tenelli, you are absolutely great! ;)
@TenelliVoiceGuru
@TenelliVoiceGuru 12 жыл бұрын
@opera1232010 Im glad to share my knowledge and experience. You are the great voice and singer no doubt about it, and you understand all the challenges pro singer faces. Some young singers still have to go through challenges becoming young opera or concert performers never realizing that schools, no matter how good they are never give even 40% necessary apts. I've been addressed here on youtube by pro singers who support the fact(and not idea) of advantagious appoggio way of support.
@VenusLover17
@VenusLover17 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this gem
@TenelliVoiceGuru
@TenelliVoiceGuru 11 жыл бұрын
Thanx, Not typically, Lower abdomenals are real supportive muscles and by the time we arrive at appoggio 3rd type(Active diaphragm balance) they should be working automatically or almost automatically. Majority of real appoggio singers don't feel low abdomenals for that reason.
@OrangeJackson
@OrangeJackson 11 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video, Thank You! My interest comes from a meditation tradition and the use of the diaphragm in working with breathing. We can experience exhales that last about a minute, and maintain attention on this long exhale to aid with concentration and awareness. But it is always great to learn more about this matter. Certainly would love to see a video done by you on your approach to breathing in meditation, but respect if that is not in your interest. Best!
@inigobj
@inigobj 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Franco, amazing tips. Could you explain how to support the sound when moving (walking) on the stage? Much appreciated. Rgds
@jolandamusic
@jolandamusic 13 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this interesting post!
@Rohme.33
@Rohme.33 7 жыл бұрын
This is major, Mr. Tenelli.
@plutoniangirl
@plutoniangirl 12 жыл бұрын
come and teach our class Maestro. Our teacher is bloody clueless in how to explain things. Good job thumbs UP!
@jezilmehta
@jezilmehta 8 жыл бұрын
amazing .. wow .... thank you ...
@fabioandreotti2704
@fabioandreotti2704 3 жыл бұрын
Molto chiaro e correttissimo poi ognuno ha la sua voce of course
@TheDisizit1
@TheDisizit1 9 жыл бұрын
Franco, pushing DOWN is what everybody talks about, but how do you create abdominal pressure? I always relax abs too much
@Fetrovsky
@Fetrovsky 8 жыл бұрын
+Oleg Tkachev When you resist the diafragm, you have to use your abdominal muscles to create a little bit of opposite pressure. That's why it feels like you're pushing down: you are, even though the diafragm doesn't move down. You're just controlling the air flow.
@TenelliVoiceGuru
@TenelliVoiceGuru 13 жыл бұрын
@KarineRibbens Appoggio is not just a diapgragmical support. Appoggio is 100% support with one register throughout. Maria went againts all the natural laws of singing taking versatile roles that one soprano couldn't sing possibly. Maria had registral division in her voice, therefore she was not an appoggio singer, but she was a true genious nevertheless...
@ioannisalex
@ioannisalex 10 жыл бұрын
Dear Maestro, Thanks for your fabulous videos. I have a question and please if you answer to me it would be so helpful because im doing a research about the way of breathing. I want to ask you if you know what breathing technique Placido Domingo used. With the belly out or in? Thank you very much for your time. It's a great honor for me to contact with you. Ioannis Alexopoulos-Greece
@TenelliVoiceGuru
@TenelliVoiceGuru 11 жыл бұрын
you are welcome and thank you too:)
@sidneikovacs5499
@sidneikovacs5499 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo maestro 👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋
@TenelliVoiceGuru
@TenelliVoiceGuru 13 жыл бұрын
@yongsua1989 sideway inhalation? define and tell who uses that
@Gopher31
@Gopher31 13 жыл бұрын
@TenelliVoiceGuru If i may interject i believe the sideways inhalation is similar to the 'sandwich' feeling you describe, preventig the belly from going out but still breathing low(strenum raised) you can feel the stretch in the lower ribs. I'm finding your posts very helpful Mr Tenelli!
@TenelliVoiceGuru
@TenelliVoiceGuru 12 жыл бұрын
you are very welcome
@TenelliVoiceGuru
@TenelliVoiceGuru 12 жыл бұрын
in appoggio styles of singing(one timbral) larinx should be stable. It' s not me who is saying that, it's a nature of a chiaro scuro resonance. With falsetto type of a voice larinx can move more freely
@yongsua1989
@yongsua1989 13 жыл бұрын
@TenelliVoiceGuru 1. Before inhaling, raise the sternum without breathing in. Then, stop thinking how low the breath must be. Stop thinking about how much air you must take in. Stop thinking about whether you want your abdomen to bulge out or tuck in. All of these things will automatically take place in the proper manner providing that you can manage not to move your chest up and down and providing that you inhale sideways.
@TenelliVoiceGuru
@TenelliVoiceGuru 13 жыл бұрын
@mojopum Yoga breathing is the best but breathing without phonation gives you only 10% of a total sensation and experience. To each student I apply an individual approach to give him that experience. I, mysef, do not excersize support without singing, but I breath only diaphragmicaly and that alone gives the D. agility and strenth.
@TenelliVoiceGuru
@TenelliVoiceGuru 13 жыл бұрын
@infernalphast9 Riggs studied, as he claims, with one of the best liric tenors of his time, Tito Schipa:) Vowel "U" or "OO" is very good to open the throat and develope better resonance. I personaly don't do lip roll, but I'm not against it:) I have my own ways of warm ups(I call them pre-warm ups). What bothers me about Riggs is that he created so called "Method" and certified teachers along. Methods in it's tight stuctures don't work in voice. Voice teacher needs a great vocal ear
@aryankhah
@aryankhah 12 жыл бұрын
@TenelliVoiceGuru (continued) It seems that you rightly emphasize the 1 and 2 but pretty overlook the 3 that is seen in your own voice and IMHO if you make some cord adjustment your vibrato becomes a little faster and voice gets more pleasant quality because your natural voice is immense.
@TenelliVoiceGuru
@TenelliVoiceGuru 13 жыл бұрын
@infernalphast9 I have sung almost any style except Hard Metal one(Blues, Jazz, Crooning, Broadway, Opera, Art songs, Folk). I'm also a fusion guitarist:) so I know that u use distorted sounds as an effect(screem). Opera singers also scream but we have less distortion in our voices(though crooneres call that opera production as unnatural distortion of the voice) Support is essensial in any voice producion
@MustacheVerra
@MustacheVerra 13 жыл бұрын
@aryankhah If i may suggest that you add more expression while singing. WAY more if you have too like smiling should brighten the voice. And perhaps you could go back to mask placement a little like 5 minutes a day and try to remember what it feels like and sounds like and do it with support. What ever works...
@TenelliVoiceGuru
@TenelliVoiceGuru 13 жыл бұрын
@yongsua1989 It goes witout saying that one needs a raised sternum, but some singers have high sternum naturaly:) Appoggio needs diaphragmical breathing. Diaphragm plays the role of a ballancer. why make it more complicated? those who make complicated are hiding behind the words and even more importantly, action. Those who say these things, I bet are not singers, or at least accomplished ones. They talk, but they cannot show, isn't that weird? they know theory, but but they have no expirience
@AILifeUpgrade
@AILifeUpgrade 10 жыл бұрын
this is helpful!!
@GERMANYFrankie
@GERMANYFrankie 11 жыл бұрын
99% of singing teachers are not good for any voice. You are one of the 1%, who know what you ar talking about. 5 Stars from Germany!!!!! What do you think about the technique of Jonas Kaufmann? Healthy or unhealthy?
@stone8193
@stone8193 6 жыл бұрын
GERMANYFrankie terrible
@patrickcunningham618
@patrickcunningham618 Жыл бұрын
revisiting ..
@aryankhah
@aryankhah 12 жыл бұрын
@TenelliVoiceGuru dear franco please don't consider insulting what I am saying here because I just talk about your voice and not you as a human. classical singing as far as I understand is comprised of three essential parts: 1)Appoggio or dynamic support 2)proper adjustment of vocal tract( lowering the larynx,rising palat, elongating pharynx ,..) 3)Vocal fold adduction that causes a briliant voice, pretty fast vibrato and penetrating quality
@TenelliVoiceGuru
@TenelliVoiceGuru 13 жыл бұрын
@aryankhah That's why one needs a live teacher:) When one experiments with finding support and N.Placement there is always a possibility to over do it, since one doesn't have an external ear(teacher) If you get woofy sounds that means larinx is suppressed. Two solutions: 1 Try to find a different D.ballance 2Change placement:find more natural placement, more squillante position(but don't move to much:it's a fine point between the woofy and too much maschera sound. The truth lies right in Midl
@aligator2326
@aligator2326 8 жыл бұрын
thank you very much for this technique have you any explanation on inhalare la voce?
@omgitsazombielo
@omgitsazombielo 11 жыл бұрын
You know, in my opinion, by my success in singing the warm ups provided, I don't think that Appoggio and Voice Placements method are on completely different planes or are separate at all. I think that, at least in vocal education they should really be taught in succession. Teaching voice placements, and education about the division of the register should be very important to cover at first, just so that students build up recognition on how different approaches feel.
@septichka
@septichka 12 жыл бұрын
thx for a great video!!
@raffaelrameh14
@raffaelrameh14 6 жыл бұрын
I loved the thoughts exposed here. But I already have background on this subject. Thanks.
@Gopher31
@Gopher31 13 жыл бұрын
@yongsua1989 I agree with this, much easier than worrying about how everything moves larynx belly etc just lift sternum and keep it lifted. makes a Big difference
@liamgallagher9753
@liamgallagher9753 6 жыл бұрын
здравствуйте. а есть ли такой же урок с упражнениями и их объяснением на русском?
@myrtomusic1559
@myrtomusic1559 9 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr Franco Tenneli . Thank you so much for your free precious ,countless and helpful knowledge about voice production . One of the many questions that I have is ;The bigger is the voice , the harder to control it ? Thank you .
@myrtomusic1559
@myrtomusic1559 9 жыл бұрын
Tenelli .
@francescodonizetti
@francescodonizetti 8 жыл бұрын
The problems with this video is that inhalation was neither mentioned nor explained and a lot of unnecessary things were repeated.
@omgitsazombielo
@omgitsazombielo 11 жыл бұрын
Then, once they have gained a certain level of proficiency on division of register, Appoggio is taught to unify the registers as one.
@TenelliVoiceGuru
@TenelliVoiceGuru 11 жыл бұрын
135 videos of more talk and actual demonstration, all you need is just to check out my channel and see where the talk matters and when the walk, besides it's free(you don't pay a penny) capisce?
@ahava77
@ahava77 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@juanpablopinoarauz
@juanpablopinoarauz 10 жыл бұрын
here is a often question should i breath in with my nose or my mouse ,my personal experience i get more air with my mouse I'm right ?(for opera, pop ) style
@NewyorkMan66
@NewyorkMan66 9 жыл бұрын
Franco Corelli said, breathing with mouth is better than nose. Breathing with nose makes less ring.
@into.the.wood.chipper.
@into.the.wood.chipper. 9 жыл бұрын
Never breathe in with your mouse. Your mouse will probably appreciate you for it.
@blabbulab6306
@blabbulab6306 9 жыл бұрын
***** aaaaaaahahhahahahaa :D :D
@baishihua
@baishihua 7 жыл бұрын
I think for me, it is better to breath in through both nose and mouth, as breath in only through mouth have the danger of having lower starting point of breath (through jaw and lower lip), which collapses your vocal track (shallow breath and you feel a lot of air going through and irritating your voice), which when you sing (of course at the same time breath out), your throat is likely to remain in that same position and you end up forcing a lot of air through your vocal folds. In my opinion, it is better to feel like your breath in through the upper lip and nose, which keeps the vocal track lifted and longer, and you will feel the breath traveling longer distance in your body, and ends up in a deeper position, and you should feel a smoother release of air when you sing out as long as you keep the same breath in position.
@beccybrennan6895
@beccybrennan6895 4 жыл бұрын
in through nose. Mouth can not be changing shape to accommodate air. Try it. mouth before phonation fills part of the lung as the chest comes out. Nose fills lower down and does not alter the oral cavity to determent but does open the resonators and help elevate the soft palette so nothing collapses.
@beeguy300
@beeguy300 Жыл бұрын
Can somebody explain on which part of the body we are pushing down? And are we pushing straight down or at an angle? Where are we pushing down from?
@mojopum
@mojopum 13 жыл бұрын
Do you have some breathing exercises that one can do without singing, lying down or standing! Thank you for this free knowledge. May you be blessed in many ways!!!
@4444marla
@4444marla 9 жыл бұрын
In yoga breathing, the belly expands with the entry of breath. I believe that correct singing is based on the diaphragmatic breathing which occurs , as you know, above the abdominal muscles, which are distended in yogi breathing. I keep my abdominals toned but not tight. You speak a lot about yogi breathing in your video. Can you clarify? Many thanks.
@MrAndredekock
@MrAndredekock 12 жыл бұрын
@TenelliVoiceGuru My apologies if what I said was in any way hurtful or insulting. I have listened to your concerts and actually appreciated your voice. I find the use of portamenti or scooping annoying and unnecessary, but my previous description was not apt and my apologies. God bless you and take care.
@TenelliVoiceGuru
@TenelliVoiceGuru 11 жыл бұрын
for very fast coloratura passages, when you sing those passages, different aproach needed
@aryankhah
@aryankhah 13 жыл бұрын
@MustacheVerra thanks a lot I'll try suggestions..
@peterdacius
@peterdacius 4 жыл бұрын
Your the man
@MrAndredekock
@MrAndredekock 12 жыл бұрын
@TenelliVoiceGuru Lol. You can give instruction but don't like any criticism. Oh well, God bless you and take care.
@TenelliVoiceGuru
@TenelliVoiceGuru 11 жыл бұрын
yes
@vikaalvarenga5638
@vikaalvarenga5638 2 жыл бұрын
Ouvi no vinil de beegees uma opera o vinil é Odessa . Pode falar alguma coisa.
@TenelliVoiceGuru
@TenelliVoiceGuru 11 жыл бұрын
Beh, è ​​difficile suggerire qualcosa. Musceles svolgono un ruolo significativo nel canto, soprattutto nelle voci verdiane. Si può ancora provare il mio programma Appoggio passo per passo Step by step
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