Been sim racing a long time. Never had braking explained like this . I learned something I didn't know . Thanks
@walrusdown2 жыл бұрын
I must say, I grew up karting, Have countless hours behind the wheel, many days of racing schools. And this had never been explained this well as you have in these few minutes. Took me longer than I care to admit to get this concept in the real world. wish you had been on track to explain this to me 20 years ago.
@robbrown34332 жыл бұрын
I have been Sim racing for eight years. The majority of those years has been with the use of anti-lock braking systems. My biggest epiphany was turning off ABS to understand what the car would tolerate, or conversely, what the car needed to achieve better lap times. I regret waiting so long to take away the ABS crutch. It was impeding my understanding of how to be fast. Love the video.
@Isaiiahii2 жыл бұрын
Yup, all assists slow the car down. If you learn throttle and brake control, your lap times will greatly improve. Of course, their are rare exceptions to this rule, but generally you never want to use assists in any sim racer if you desire to be as fast as possible.
@eioneus6 ай бұрын
I’ve watched dozens of videos on trailbraking and this is BY FAR the best explanation. Liked and subscribed, good job!
@davecamyt6 ай бұрын
Thank you, appreciate the feedback. 😁
@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames2 жыл бұрын
Lifting and coasting really helps improve this technique. Lift off way before the corner, maybe half way or three quarters down the straight and use the exact same brake marker you would at speed but softer on the brakes. Keep your vision locked on the apex and the moment you’ve turned in, move your vision to corner exit and let peripheral vision lead the car to the apex while your focus remains on exit and beyond. This is a great way of working on maximum apex speed and if you can’t nail every corner at a reduced speed with zero mistakes, don’t try and go fast until you can.
@aquezar2 жыл бұрын
First time seeing such detailed explanation of trail braking. Thank you Dave! It would be good to see how much exactly this affects lap times
@lovelaugh72992 жыл бұрын
Ohh well it has no effect at all u can completely ignore it
@davecamyt2 жыл бұрын
You're not doing it correctly then 😁
@lovelaugh72992 жыл бұрын
@@davecamyt im being sarcastic dave 🙄
@davecamyt2 жыл бұрын
@@lovelaugh7299 I'm slow 😁
@FULLNinja692 жыл бұрын
There is an example in the video towards the end
@HazewinDog2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this. now I feel like I can actually go and practice this. I've long understood why trail braking is beneficial, but I just had no idea how to do it. This should finally get me closer than 2-3s off of alien pace :)
@HazewinDog2 жыл бұрын
would love to see a little follow-up video with your best laptime when trailbraking vs when not trailbraking (perhaps in GT3 since it is so popular)
@madmags9692 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave. I've been trying to master this technique for a long time. Its a bit hit and miss but slowly getting there. This has, so far, been the easiest to follow tutorial I've seen and will be a great help to many people I am sure. Top job.
@Quazi-Moto Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Trail braking isn't something one can master immediately. Trial and error with spins galore, and some understeering at corner exit to boot. But even though I've yet to master this technique, I _am_ good enough at it to see the massive benefits of getting it right. Now to get enough practice so that I can do it at will. The visual aid that Dave gives us here is a huge help.
@markbagley91942 жыл бұрын
Nice tutorial Dave. Best explanation about trail braking. I knew I had to trail brake, but visually seeing the difference and then also showing us how to practice. Very useful.
@WhippyWhipGaming2 жыл бұрын
You forgot big red arrows and a shocked face on the thumbnail
@atlantic_love Жыл бұрын
Anytime I see that I downvote said video, report video for spam and block channel.
@tuningsnow4 ай бұрын
@@atlantic_love Whoa calm down dude.
@atlantic_love4 ай бұрын
@@tuningsnow Couple of things, ya loony toon. #1 I'm not a "dude", I'm female. Get used to it. #2 It should be "Whoa COMMA ...." #3 I will never pay any mind to sensitive nits who don't like being called out for sow boy faces :)
@zeeblade12392 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation, best I’ve heard on how to brake into a corner with trail braking!!
@InsertYourself1 Жыл бұрын
Amazing. I am blown away😲thank you
@donjezza2 жыл бұрын
This is a great lesson Dave, really well done.
@santi39912 жыл бұрын
What helped me A LOT with this is playing MotoGP, if you don't do this you don't turn at all and if you aren't smooth you fall, meanwhile on cars you are only slower and maybe miss where you did wrong, in anycase practice makes perfect. Beautifully explained video!
@FinlayDaG33k Жыл бұрын
When I first practised smooth braking, steering and accelleration, I always just pretended I was a very fast taxi driver that wants to get my passenger to their destination but still give them a smooth ride. This helped me a lot to get it into my system to not just release the brakes or mash the throttle.
@dnlwood32 Жыл бұрын
I'm a real beginner who is loving iracing and trying to learn. These tips are ideal for me and I thought it was really well explained! Thanks.
@13Razgriz372 жыл бұрын
Wow I've literally never thought about the physics behind fully releasing the brakes quickly while racing. I do exactly the first drill to prevent the nose of the car rebounding when driving irl and stopping at lights, never occurred to me how important it would be to apply in racing. Top tier advice
@Isaiiahii2 жыл бұрын
It's funny you mention about doing this at lights irl. I also do the same. I take great pride in coming to a complete stop without any sudden jerk or abrupt halt. It's fun to see how smooth I can come to a stop.
@Siralantoon2 жыл бұрын
Dave I will love you forever for 'Damping' which is what Dampers do, not 'Dampening' which is what rain does. There are no 'Dampeners' on a car.
@bTabard2 жыл бұрын
Best explanation I've seen yet for trail braking! I'm still super new, and this explanation makes a lot of sense for how the car feels under breaking
@bustab86492 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting, Dave. Seeing how both the brake and throttle can affect how much the car steers for a given steering input made complete sense finally!
@pandachuzero2 жыл бұрын
great video! I'd love to see a similar demonstration with rear wheel drive cars accelerating out of a corner and it's effect on rotating the car.
@bobSims186411 ай бұрын
Thanks Dave. I've watched a few videos on trail braking but you're demonstation gave me a very clear idea of what's going on. I don't know how well I'll be able to do it but at least now I have a clear understanding of the theory.
@Ermz2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Dave! This is how you use the curiosity gap to get more views. 👏👏
@johnelectric933 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I am still trying to train my muscles and tune my system up (AXC True Brake springs) and didn't know how to practice. This is very informative.
@frankiev42532 жыл бұрын
Thanks dave! Been practicing my trail braking for a few months now. It really helps the car entering the corner.
@Simlife1012 жыл бұрын
This is why imo a good set of pedals is best before a good wheel base. I knew most of it but still taught me a few things. Thanks Dave
@bobfunk50552 жыл бұрын
Have heard it all before but that was an excellent and clear description. I don't trail brake enough and it's obvious as when I compare Motec with Coach Dave he is trail brakes every turn. Something I really need to work on!
@misterdallasdrives2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation and demonstration. I'd heard it mentioned plenty of times but never quite grasped the concept. This was perfect! Cheers Dave!
@MrMiniPilote2 жыл бұрын
A very good explanation of weight transfer and balance with trail-braking. It's tough to to do consistently. Thanks for the content.
@theblaznee2 жыл бұрын
These 11 minutes probably taught me more about smooth driving than any other video or practice has done so far in my 6 months of simracing
@ianpotter28502 жыл бұрын
Great short tutorial Dave, just started racing on ACC and used this to great effect and now able to turn up the AI to keep myself honest. Cheers
@vicenziano5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. Oh my god, this has been one of the best and most beginner friendly videos I've seen on the topic!!
@davecamyt5 ай бұрын
Hope it helps 😁
@Preemptive-strike2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, haven't seen anyone explain this so well. It would be awesome to see a video where you go into smooth throttle and steering as well!
@doug_vickers2 жыл бұрын
Sound advice there Dave. I know what I should be doing, but I don't always manage to do it. 😭 I'm getting there slowly but surely. Keep the advice coming. 👍
@prosperow2 жыл бұрын
this is the best video on trail breaking out there thanks Dave
@stevetaylor10852 жыл бұрын
These drills/practice techniques are gold!!
@markbird54616 ай бұрын
Well exsplained although trail bracking works best when braking hard in the fist faze (threshhold) in a straight line and the slowly release (bleadoff) the brake whilst starting the turn and add more steering as the brake is released all the way into the apex.
@jonathanvisser35162 жыл бұрын
I love this so much. A nice explanation about racing I will be back for this channels. Thanks so much for the help!!
@doclogic2 жыл бұрын
I think the best part about this was the telemetry at the end. I really needed to understand the relationship between brake strength and steering angle. I always tend to scrub because I'm braking too hard going into the corner and trying to give steering input at the same time. It was good to see how much more steering input you had to give when coasting vs. trail braking.
@AndrewFosterSheff692 жыл бұрын
And ending up going straight on most of the time (rofl)
@leentuk6814 Жыл бұрын
Great video Dave. This is the kind of info that really does change everything. I have changed how I brake now and You are right -I'm quicker. Good guarantee. thanks.
@imad19968 ай бұрын
Part of the weight, not all the weight. Nice videos. I learned after learning the essential rules that spending time practicing will be way more useful than watching videos.
@Darlexis2 жыл бұрын
Such a good trail braking explanation! I had to watch so many videos to get this idea 💡 I’m still slow but have A lic in iRacing
@jurgenw.54522 жыл бұрын
Thx Dave, jetzt habe ich es wirklich verstanden. Super erklärt !
@chupposity2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, I've been working on this for a while now, helps a lot and also works in real life not just sim racing!
@zacblakely32852 жыл бұрын
Great instruction and explanation Dave! Stoked to try this out!
@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames2 жыл бұрын
You can notice this is in real life too. When you’re a passenger in a car pay attention to what happens when the driver brings it to a stop, at a red light for example. When the vehicle stops, does the front of the car lurch up and press you against the seat belt? Does it happen when you’re driving? If so, this braking technique works just as well in real life and will do wonders for your car control. The majority of road users pay little attention their braking technique. When you come to a stop, watch the cars around you. Most of the time you’ll see their bonnet angled down as they are slowing and then spring back up when they stop. My mother in law pretty much throws me against the dash when she stops 😂 One more thing, if you notice any of your friends and family doing this DO NOT, under any circumstances, tell them their braking sucks, your forehead will, from that moment onwards be forever bruised.
@phillupson85612 жыл бұрын
Funny enough in real cars I do release gradually at the stop simply because making the car bounce irritates me :D
@PR1NCETD0T3 ай бұрын
Yep i do it intuitively but also my driving instructor taught me this technique when i first started driving. (Only time i smash the brake is if i get cut off or brake late)
@johnmifsud60072 жыл бұрын
Cheers Dave. Very helpful. Something I really need to work on.
@fraser72185 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, I’m struggling with this exact corner so looking forward to trying this out
@davecamyt5 ай бұрын
Let me know if it does 😁
@fraser72185 ай бұрын
@@davecamyt I was stuck lapping at 21.6 and started doing exactly what you said, it felt slower but somehow found 0.8 seconds during a race and set the fastest lap 20.8 😃. I pushed too hard the following lap and spun out but that’s not the point here 😅 💪💪💪
@peterreynolds63262 жыл бұрын
I don't have the time to jump on right now however I can tell this is going to help my cornering
@brother-calm2 жыл бұрын
i'd definitely recommend trying drill 1 when you're driving irl. it's much easier to gain an intuition w/r/t weight transfer under braking when you have forces acting on your entire body rather than just wheel feedback and visual cues.
@blackmac19702 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Good to have simple practical exercises to hone the technique away from racing.
@pauprat8495 Жыл бұрын
I try to practice the first technique when doing city driving. I think it's called something like "Limo braking" or similar, and means lifting off the brakes just enough when coming to standstill, to avoid the back and forth rocking moment. It can help a lot to develop your precision with the feet.
@davedeja2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, Dave. I'm definitely guilty of jumping off the brake and unloading the front suspension. I cause the car to understeer, push and increase my lap times and sometimes I'll make contact and start my X collection, as well as help someone else start their collection. Trail braking seems like a simple concept until you try it. But all to often I cut the braking short in order to get back on the gas... I gotta get my mind right before I can get my feet right.
@cerberustiggerwoo2 жыл бұрын
So much easier said than done but defo a huge help thanx dave
@daviddavies36372 жыл бұрын
Nice one. I think this is the main reason why I'm struggling for pace. I use trail braking sometimes without ever fully understanding why. My technique to take turns faster is to jump off the throttle to transfer the weight. Sometimes I do this several times in a corner. Last night I did try to improve the smoothness by introducing some trail braking. My times did improve slightly but need to do more practice to hit those apexes.
@edcadlick26502 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dave I we'll practice faster the better.🚀
@farisraymond66646 ай бұрын
Fantastic Tutorial Dave, it really was 💯 Excellently explained and in a manner for which racers of all levels of expertise and experience will understand and learn from this tutorial without a doubt! Thank you for taking the time to create this video to share with all who want to watch and learn and then eagerly jump straight back into the sim to put the theory into action. Top man! Have a great day Sir, thank you 🙌🏾
@davecamyt6 ай бұрын
Thank you, appreciate the feedback 😁
@jeffgiassi2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, sticking to the basics is so important yet so underestimated
@PandorusFightStick2 жыл бұрын
really good video on trial break, best i have seen Dave !
@ImHavingaCoronary2 жыл бұрын
This is actually a great video. Thanks, I'm new to having pedals and wheels and spent a fair dollar on them. I was expecting to have more of a boost just from the pedals and wheel alone but couldn't really understand how trail breaking was supposed to happen. Also the clarity on weight transfer helps a lot.
@teddywilliams25122 жыл бұрын
i've been city driving for 15 years and occasionally play racing games on my controller and with a beginners wheel (thrustmaster tx) and i never ever knew the car behaved like that!
@FujiRoku2 жыл бұрын
In everyday driving too, when carrying a passenger. If when braking, your passenger is pinned forwards into their seatbelt, ease up on your braking before stopping as shown by Dave, your passengers will thank you for the smooth ride.
@warawana2 жыл бұрын
Definitely keen to redo some of my time attack challenges now using this and see how much I can squeeze out of the lap times. Thank you.
@andygloves74152 жыл бұрын
Thankyou sir. An excellent explanation, will try and follow your wise words. 😍
@sock20702 жыл бұрын
Cor that was so interesting, thanks Dave! I'm going to give this a go tomorrow :)
@markli38892 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your wisdom Dave you explain it really well and I appreciate your videos
@frankvermeulen46212 жыл бұрын
30+ years of driving on the public road has ingrained the "wrong" type of braking in my muscle memory that's hard to overcome. Heusinkveld Sprints are on the way, so I'll be trying this again and again, although this time, with "feeling". 😉
@pieflies2 жыл бұрын
Me too. My sprints arrived 2 days ago but I’m not going to get a chance to set them up and try them out until probably next weekend.
@RickyChapman872 жыл бұрын
Makes so much sense with the trail breaking. I usually hit the break enough so I can glide through the corner and hit the gas asap on the exit. Cant wait to get back and try this out. Cheers Dave.
@JimmySmithYT2 жыл бұрын
I’m amazed at the amount of people that seem to have never looked at your pedal inputs during a race all these years.
@Duke60Duke602 жыл бұрын
Finally a video I can share to the people that look at me like I’m nuts when I say you steer a racing car with your feet and not your hands.
@jonhartley7238 Жыл бұрын
That's a cracking video is that, luv. Nowt new to me, but to anyone who I need a great tutorial for, this is the one I'll send them to, thanks!
@turn7racing2 жыл бұрын
Great video dave. Really goes back to basics and a must practice for anyone.
@DCSspitfire2 жыл бұрын
Very good video, thank you Dave. If you keep making vids like this ill put a poster of you hanging on the wall in my simroom. So helpfull
@davecamyt2 жыл бұрын
😂
@davidius74 Жыл бұрын
As others have said Dave, have never had it explained so well. I tend to brake early but too much, release the back and have to wait to get on the gas. If I can practice this and get better then I might be able to do better than finishing almost last every race. I have managed it by accident in the iR-04 once at Watkins Glen and when I worked it out, I knew how to do it in that car. But some other cars I lock up or spin. Guess I need to get better pedals so I can control it better. I have already mapped my clutch as my brakes as I have never driven a manual in 24 years of driving so don't need it and the brake is too stiff. I have the Logitech G29 and not looking to spend too much as this is just a very casual hobby for me but I know I need something better. VR and more screens will also help instead of my 21 inch flat screen monitor, but this tutorial will certainly go a long way in helping me improve. Would be good if you put our more tutorials. Thanks from Down Under.
@davecamyt Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words David. Happy to help 😁
@GregoryPrzybyl2 жыл бұрын
This is the best video for understanding how breaking works in the sim thank you so much Dave!
@1xRacer2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Verstappens road Atlanta f3 video comes perfect to mind
@leogugli4987 Жыл бұрын
Nice video Dave, estaría bueno que además de este consejo agregaras que no debe sobrar pista, ni volante, es algo que la mayoría olvida y es sumamente importante para saber que uno está en el límite del auto.
@tonesnaps2 жыл бұрын
thank you very much. that was actually a really good video
@luciusesox1luckysox570 Жыл бұрын
That, was bloody well explained... Subscribed ..:)
@speedibusrex2 жыл бұрын
Very good explanation! Kudos.
@ChiefBunhead2 жыл бұрын
This explanation is great, thanks!
@tactownturbotime982 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. It helped my gal and myself cut lap times
@davecamyt Жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@magicgamester Жыл бұрын
Just re watched this and noticed on the thumbnail - the Cheering Tree!!!
@jamiedavinci13282 жыл бұрын
Very clickbaity video title indeed. That said, this is the best fundamental explanation and demonstration of trailbraking I've seen.
@fan2hd2772 жыл бұрын
I realized that once I joined Class A GTE races ;) I shoved seconds of laptimes once I focused more on smooth Apex and corner entry.
@Syndr342 жыл бұрын
A great car to practice this on, and one of my favorite cars to drive, is the Porsche RSR (GTE). The GTE is not a car you can stomp the brake, like the GT3 version. It really relies on that perfect balance of initial and trail braking , and slow lift off of the brake. Otherwise, no steery steery, and straight off you go, lol.
@SerialDriver2 жыл бұрын
I remember my first real life track lesson. One of the first words was brake input must be decreasing, acceleration is increasing.
@kevin_m2 жыл бұрын
Great vid with solid advice Dave!
@overthetopoperationsracing31992 жыл бұрын
Way to keep it simple! Any other suggestions on preparing for a race? Thanks!
@craigleese17872 жыл бұрын
Top video Dave. Thank you
@facundomanso Жыл бұрын
Subscribed , amazing explanation 👏🏽
@davecamyt Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@meawayfromhome2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, good explanation mate well done 👍🏻
@AdzzVR2 жыл бұрын
The ultimate trail-braking guide / drill
@rogercappel2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Dave!
@simracingwithhandicap5022 жыл бұрын
The best and detailed explanation of Trailbraking I've seen so far! Not that I would need it myself, but I'm sure this will help sooo many people! Good that you made that Video!
@Sapjee1232 жыл бұрын
Good vid mate. Very detailed
@Dirtytanker2 жыл бұрын
Brake is where I gain all my time. Trail brake like a boss!!!
@jcsquared11112 жыл бұрын
Great video really want to gwt faster def think applying some of these tools will help.
@tjb1001184 Жыл бұрын
Only just got into sim racing and im having a blast with the btcc content in rfactor2. However can you make a track guide video on knockhill cause its an epic track but i just cant seem to setup my corners very well. Loving the channel ❤