PerfectDraft : easy modification to adjust beer temperature HD 1080p

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Alfred Appel

Alfred Appel

11 жыл бұрын

Philips PerfectDraft serves an excellent glass of beer, however, in my opinion the beer is too cold.
The unit serves beer at a fixed 3 degree Celcius. I slightly modified the device in order to be able to adjust the temperature between 3 and 10 degrees Celsius (or 37 and 50 Fahrenheit). The PCB cannot be changed easily, but it is easy to put a potentiometer combined with a switch between the temperature sensor, an NTC, and the PCB. The higher the combined resistance of the potentiometer and the NTC, the higher the resulting beer temperature. A switch is used to short the potmeter to be able to restore original settings but also to read true temperature.
Philips PerfectDraft, prima apparaat maar het bier is naar mijn smaak, zeker in het koudere seizoen te koud. Een potmeter in serie met de NTC geeft de mogelijkheid het apparaat om de tuin te leiden en de temperatuur te verhogen.

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@martinosborne6667
@martinosborne6667 3 жыл бұрын
A very helpful and well explained video, thanks!
@MarkLouisSmit
@MarkLouisSmit 5 жыл бұрын
Nice mod 😀 Works like a charm. Take care of using enough wire length to easily take the back cover off later on. The taste is really much better if you can drink your beers at the right temperature, brings out the best especially in the heavier beers.
@AJApper
@AJApper 5 жыл бұрын
Thx
@SqueekyBums
@SqueekyBums 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. It's ridiculous that the temperature isn't controllable from the factory when they intend the pump to serve many ales, all with different ideal temperatures. 🙄
@kevinjames3714
@kevinjames3714 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, this works fine but there are a few additional bits of information that people may find useful. I'm not an electronics engineer, I just worked this out from doing the mod's: The "hack" fools the readout. so when the mod' is working it will still display a low temperature. There is a really unhelpful time-out/delay on the display, so you have to wait about 5 minutes for any change to show, except if you turn it off and on again. I found the isolation switch to be unnecessary because the standard 10K Ohm potentiometer, as supplied by Amazon, dials all the way back to zero resistance. Therefore when it is set to zero there is no increase in the circuit resistance and the temperature readout and thermostat will be reading the true temperature. Just dial it all the way round to 10KOHM and the system is fooled and will only be cooling to about 7 or 8 degrees C. Hope this helps, good luckk
@jimgallaher458
@jimgallaher458 2 жыл бұрын
If the display still shows a low temperature, how do you know what temperature of the beer is ?
@AJApper
@AJApper 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimgallaher458 By using the switch to short the pot (to zero resistance) true temperature is displayed after 5 minutes or so
@JayGee6996
@JayGee6996 6 жыл бұрын
Top tip for using shrinking heat shrink is to use a generic hair dryer. Works a treat with zero risk of burning anything and also gives a more professional/uniform finish.
@georgespolaert4800
@georgespolaert4800 6 жыл бұрын
Very simple de vice to create . Thanks a lot. I've tried to replace thé interruptor by a simple push button but the change of display is to long. No matter, I'll change it soon👍👍
@karlssonvomdach3627
@karlssonvomdach3627 5 жыл бұрын
danke klappt wunderbar super tipp
@gromoism
@gromoism 5 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks for the video :-) I've done the modification on my brand new one perfectdraft.... They must have change the software ! As it works OK the first 15min : I mean switching the temp reading with the switch... but after 10min : temp says like 5° with switch "on" or "off" (while kegs it's really @ 10°) .... If I want to read 10° in front : I open the doors, lift the blue handle, wait 5sec, pull down the blue handle and close the doors. Switch ON says 10°, switch off says 5° (still cooling) . You will face the same result when display will reach 3° either with switch "on" or "off".... Actual keg temp will only be read OK if you do the proc (open-lift-dowm-close- switch on then read)... Hope this is clear ?? Sorry if not :-)
@WHCAudio
@WHCAudio 6 жыл бұрын
I need to get one of these and a few perfect draft kegs of Leffe Blond to the USA somehow. Also, you can always just pour the beer and let it sit for 5 min.
@felipepires8379
@felipepires8379 6 жыл бұрын
Would be really helpful to know what would be the resistance value for the 3c (target temp). Do you know or have tested to check what would be the final resistance reading at the 3c temperature?
@AJApper
@AJApper 6 жыл бұрын
I assume it will be around 16K at that temp, but I did not measure it. Momentarily I do not use the device.
@aldotube88
@aldotube88 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to do this but looks far too much above my head
@55javier55
@55javier55 8 жыл бұрын
Good Morning, Very interesting I guess if I put a resistor between the cords, get the opposite effect bringing the temperature below 3 degrees. Is this correct? Thank you.
@AJApper
@AJApper 7 жыл бұрын
Correct, if total resistance is lower, beer temperature will be lower.
@AJApper
@AJApper 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Unfortunately it is not possible to show the true temperature constantly on the display, since the device uses the NTC value also for the temperature display. Only by using the switch to shortcut the pot, true temperature is shown after several minutes delay. More sophisticated reverse engineering would be necessary for a better solution. This one is quick and dirty but it works.
@petercoleman9083
@petercoleman9083 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Alfred. You say a 10K potentiometer. Can you advise if its a Linear one or a Logarithmic one. Regards Patch
@marcokohler7709
@marcokohler7709 Жыл бұрын
Hello, I wanted to know if I can also use a 10k potentiometer with a built-in switch for this or does the switch have to be separate
@marcokohler7709
@marcokohler7709 Жыл бұрын
Hi 1 question I have built the porous one in between but the temperature cannot be adjusted
@AJApper
@AJApper Жыл бұрын
No, you need a separate switch to short the potentiometer in order to restore original settings and to read true beer temperature. A pot with a built-in switch if switched off interrupts the circuit.
@jimgallaher458
@jimgallaher458 2 жыл бұрын
I've installed this hack, but when the temperature display is over 3C the fan (and cooler ?) continues to run, is this normal ? Surely the PD machine is factory set to cool to 3C and if you change the NTC resistance it will only make the machine sense a higher temperature and try to cool it ?
@AJApper
@AJApper 2 жыл бұрын
The combined resistance of the NTC and the potmeter determines the PD's cooling behaviour. If the NTC resistance declines, due to increasing environmental temperature (remember, NTC means negative temperature coefficient, the higher the temperature, the lower the NTC value, also demonstrated in the video) the PD starts cooling until NTC value rises and resembles 3 gr C. But we artificially add an extra resistance, the potmeter, and thus are able to shift the setpoint for starting the cooling to a higher temperature. The PD senses a higher resistance value and thus "thinks" temperature is low enough and cooling is not necessary. This way beer temperature can incline to 7 of 8 degrees before cooling starts.
@hermanngerhold7572
@hermanngerhold7572 2 ай бұрын
nice thx
@sainthubertfrancois2274
@sainthubertfrancois2274 5 жыл бұрын
Bieaudifool
@calgar10
@calgar10 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, if you put a temp regulator between the two wires of the ntc for read temp on the input and put two resitor on the output of the regulator, one for 3°c one for 10°c, i think that can regul temp with an easy set and display right ? Sorry if me english is bab
@AJApper
@AJApper 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I do not understand what you have in mind. What do you mean by a temp regulator ?
@petercoleman9083
@petercoleman9083 4 жыл бұрын
@@calgar10 Hi there have you advanced your idea any further on this one
@petercoleman9083
@petercoleman9083 4 жыл бұрын
@@AJApper Hi Alfred have you further developed your idea or is it as it was. Any advice really appreciated Regards Peter
@AJApper
@AJApper 4 жыл бұрын
@@petercoleman9083 No, I am quite happy with the easy solution I found. There are probably more sophisticated modifications but I didnot dive into it any deeper.
@AJApper
@AJApper 4 жыл бұрын
@@calgar10 OK, but it has probably its own sensor and it is not easy to integrate it into this circuit I imagine
@anthonyshort3437
@anthonyshort3437 3 ай бұрын
Does this work if my temperature is running at room temperature
@basvanriel1806
@basvanriel1806 3 ай бұрын
What do you mean? Your beer is not getting cold? Or do you want your beer to be at room temperature? Because this adjustment makes your machine think your beer is at 3°c when its actually not that cold (the temperature depents on how high your resistance is). So you can controle the temperature (3°c-10°c) If you want your beer at room temperature. Just turn your machine off after getting a beer. But this is not good for your beer so your beer will taste like shit within a couple days. If your machine isn't cooling your beer. Call Philips and hope they fix it for you
@AJApper
@AJApper 11 жыл бұрын
If you just interrupted one of the wires to the NTC and put the pot in between nothing can be wrong. Strange behaviour, I cannot explain it. Did you measure the resistance of NTC plus potmeter? You could also replace the pot with a fixed resistor, say 6.8 K. Beertemp should than be around 7 degrees. Keep in mind the display react very slowly on changing the switch position.
@jhlb5
@jhlb5 4 жыл бұрын
3 connectors on the POT which ones to use. Also will cutting either wire on the pcb plug work or should it be the RH one?
@snedanator1
@snedanator1 3 жыл бұрын
Hi could you give me instructions on how to lower the temperature to 1 or 2 degrees. Thanks
@marcokohler7709
@marcokohler7709 Жыл бұрын
Hello, I think the idea is great, I would like to install the parts exactly like you did, can you send me the links to the parts, thank you
@AJApper
@AJApper Жыл бұрын
It is only a 10 K potentiometer and a switch. You can buy them everywhere.
@limpanskok
@limpanskok 5 жыл бұрын
110%
@richardraymonddewinkel6495
@richardraymonddewinkel6495 9 жыл бұрын
wat een goede hack
@AJApper
@AJApper 9 жыл бұрын
RichardRaymond DeWinkel Bedankt !
@byehi2337
@byehi2337 6 жыл бұрын
How to make it below 3 degree celsius? Because my country is very hot!
@loicskinside4730
@loicskinside4730 5 жыл бұрын
no matter of your country, a beer needs a perfect temperature, like 7 or 8°c for a Kwak, you can bring them down to 3°c for a Leffe
@mikes7000
@mikes7000 3 жыл бұрын
quel intérêt?
@laurent03150
@laurent03150 3 жыл бұрын
effectivement je ne vois pas trop l’intérêt moi je cherche a réparer avec un affichage 88
@gwennaelquenton4267
@gwennaelquenton4267 3 жыл бұрын
L'intérêt est de changer comme il le souhaite la température de la bière... 3 degré c'est assez froids voir trop
@mikes7000
@mikes7000 3 жыл бұрын
@@gwennaelquenton4267 tu pose ta bière 2 min et hop elle es réchauffe😁
@gwennaelquenton4267
@gwennaelquenton4267 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikes7000 tout dépend si tu as vite soif ou non 🤣
@robelmes5016
@robelmes5016 5 жыл бұрын
Bye bye warranty if you do this.
@DrBest-dm1vc
@DrBest-dm1vc Ай бұрын
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