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[@nickbregadze9021]

gripped up with john back in 04, his thumb felt like a normal sized water bottle.

[@Razomir]

That's a great way of describing it. It's like grabbing a slightly smaller wrist.

[@justaguyfromreddit]

A car clutch

[@LeahRobb]

That made me laugh. It was first as if you were going to suggest his thumb was normal to grip, and then...🤣

[@Jooffee]

some abuse growth hormones and probably get big advantage, increases bone structure and enlarges the hands more than steroids

[@masterpaine9161]

How did the side pressure feel?

[@willstuart4504]

I gripped up with John in his Prime during some random tournament to decide the World's best..... To my surprise it wasn't that difficult to grip his hand or thumb and I was definitely in a winning position and ready to claim victory..... Then my wife SNEEZED... and woke me up. Damn.... I was THAT close to beating the GOAT In his Prime!?!😏

[@gayatriadhikary6188]

Bruh 😂

[@stevenromano2814]

ain't no way😂

[@stop.russian.aggression]

Nice comment)😅

[@SuperSkandale]

Dream on buddy, dream on :)

[@willstuart4504]

@@SuperSkandale lol... a guy can dream. 👍

[@silentbird2705]

John and Denis gripping up = two pythons twisted into a pretzel.

[@Pepe-pq3om]

The same analysis of this video could be applied to Denis Cyplenkov, the thing about John is he is not a super heavyweight, but his hand is like that of one

[@jacobsumner7892]

I think we will really start seeing that more and more from Denis too he’s probably not known as much for it because when he was young he could muscle through most guys he wasn’t a top roller or outside guy but he started to wise up before he had health problems

[@Pepe-pq3om]

@@jacobsumner7892 agreed

[@JonHop1]

@@jacobsumner7892 the fact Denis could beat everyone and have next to no technique, is just testament to his absolutely freakish strength. And go figure, he still holds the strict curl record in his grip style(the harder style, not closed, inverted grip)

[@user-fd6ul2ol7t]

​@@JonHop1твой цыпляков химик конченный!,он жрёт стероидов больше чем ты печенья!

[@mcfarvo]

John Brzenk: the Greatest

[@SHAKIITHEWOLF2]

Used to live in az up until early this year trained with John a few times a month. The pressures and articulation he created with his thum were un real it would gas my palm

[@NikitaBabanovArmwrestling]

Some people want penile enlargement surgery, we AW fans want thumb enlargement.

[@thureintun1687]

that's called "pronation from the d!ck"

[@vedant_gaikwad.08]

Fr fr

[@calebgodard4554]

Thank you, your breakdowns are excellent

[@jimmyalmighty2834]

I have been waiting for this for like 5 months. Extremely happy to finally see this

[@tallpaulhutchensjr.]

Another awesome video by Mr. PEP 💪🥞🤘 I've never been lucky enough to pull John or even meet him. But I bet a puller could lock up with him and come out the match wayyyy more knowledgeable 🏆 🐐 🏆

[@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes]

thanks brother!! And yeah, just gripping up you would instantly realize how much there is to it, would be so cool!

[@s4squatch1]

John Brzenk is also a world champion Hitchhiker 👍

[@Pepe-pq3om]

PEP, I think you are overlooking the efficency of the canopener as technique, sometimes is easier to get the opponent into a hook and then open their hand, than trying to straight toproll out off the go when against a really fast explosive hooker or another toproller, a good example of this is John Brzenk vs Rustam Babayev: John couldn't toproll Rustam, because Rustam had the a ability to force a hook to fast before John could do anything and by the time John stopped the hit he would already be stretch out in a defensive hook, but if he willingly went into a hook and then started to apply pressure on Babayev's hand, he could win without much trouble. And this is not only true only for John whom has a giant thumb, it worked like this for me on multiple occasions and have baby hands. One thing to be mindful of is that is easier to pronate when you have your wrist bend, try it out for yourself in the gym, doing a pronation lift with your wrist straight is considerably harder. Maybe the secret is to shout *canOPANA*

[@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes]

haha, yes this is the secret. Yeah that's what I meant, I think the can opener is a good move, but pretty much only for John. Like if the average person tries it it probably isn't optimal

[@Pepe-pq3om]

@@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes don't know if you got my point exactly. For example, if I try to toproll my friend on the left hand, 80% of the time it won't work because he will end up climbing over my hand. I have more success forcing him in a hook, but even then, I usually lose because my cupping isn't very good and eventually I'll lose my hand, but I can force him into a hook and then take his hand focusing on pronating through the thumb, so the can-opener is the best technical option in this case (other than the kingsmove, but let's not talk about that). And, my thumb is pretty normal, I would say is actually undersized since my hand is overall small (baby hands 😭)

[@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes]

Oh I see what you're saying. Yeah that's really interesting, I haven't seen that much! @@Pepe-pq3om

[@Pepe-pq3om]

@@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes Bob Brown talks about this in one of his videos training Paul Italia. I recommend watching that whole series, it's good stuff.

[@thureintun1687]

good information

[@The_Dawg_father]

Awesome vid, brezenk is an absolute stud and goat. Freak of nature and iron will. Never an in your face asshat. Really like John, class act

[@EhabEshak]

honey wake up pep posted videau

[@azorthegreat2112]

So boring comment...

[@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes]

hahaha

[@Noobmaster-069]

That's why he is the goat You are way too good in making these videos

[@TwoOneSe7en]

Very good breakdown. 🤙🙏

[@editmanjaw619]

love ur videos man. i really enjoy ur videos because ur videos are very detailed. i would like to see a breakdown video on john berzenk vs Voyevoda match. u know the tournament where Voyevoda won by defeating berzenk and travis. all the videos i saw about that tournament, i see Voyevoda absolutely dominating berzenk and i dont understand how that was possible. i would love to see a detailed breakdown videos about that match and there is no channel that explain a match like u do.

[@richardevans5478]

I remember John saying he felt partially injured from his previous match before he faced Voyevoda so he wasn't at his peak form, still Voyevoda is a beast

[@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes]

thanks brother! Yeah it's sometimes difficult to find information about the older matches, but I'll look into it mate!

[@Sohailhgfggggh6]

Didn't he face taras before their match, his match with taras was a war

[@editmanjaw619]

@@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes excellent and thanks a lot man. looking forward to it

[@LeahRobb]

@@richardevans5478 No. The match against Taras where he got slightly injured was shown before in the movie, but happened afterwards in real life. He wasn't injured but he had come back from semi-retirement for the Pulling John doc, so he wasn't at his peak.

[@user-uo7vy9jm2o]

Love your stuff!

[@MuscleBandit]

Just when I think I get arm wrestling you go ahead and show me another avenue of insight! Hail PEP!

[@markiyanhapyak349]

“PEP” is nOt in the game…!

[@Czarkazmx]

Dude, you are a surgeon! The way you see and explain is insane

[@F8...]

devons been all aboit pronating and rising latly and its really helpin his game

[@thureintun1687]

yeah he rised the Italy

[@juggernauttt]

Grip up with john was like a dream ( it was actually )

[@fattymcgee123]

Johns Thumb would be a great name for a youtube channel

[@Ethernet480]

The most obvious way to create an experiment that showcases how important the thumb size is…is to grip up but someone put a finger or a shim between the persons grip at the thumb area. Just a small difference makes a massive advantage

[@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes]

orrrrr... armwrestle with oven mitts ;)

[@painless4785]

So working on grip strength would help mitigate this?

[@agilalawin8792]

Guys that would be a great match Matyushenko vs John break

[@iggswanna1248]

You arethe David Attenborough of Armwrestling

[@ChrisDorrmusic]

Great explanation! Also, your use of "versus" instead of "verse" should be a lesson for every other KZbinr.

[@amradelark]

awesome vid❤

[@nbnd3342]

i got a pretty fat thumb my ego is thru the roof rn 😂😂

[@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes]

hahaha

[@ludnell1]

great video of the GOAT

[@Imnotaniggabruh]

Should i use heavy weight for 8-12 reps or light weight and 20-22 reps for pronator

[@keelanenns4548]

I honestly thought the Thumb thing didn't make much sense when Devon was doing it, but now I totally get it. John really is the GOAT. I have a tournament Saturday but after that I'm going all in for thumb training. John credits his massive thumb to doing thousands of thumb movements with a stress ball and I've got just the thing

[@LeonItsMe]

Didn't he say that the best exercise for armwrestling is pullups?

[@keelanenns4548]

@@LeonItsMe I hope not because that’s complete bullshit armwrestling is the best exercise for armwrestling

[@kraig3967]

@@keelanenns4548Jfc haha come on don’t be a douche you knew what he meant.

[@camilolopez8728]

THE GOOAT

[@muhammetali7814]

Pronation through wrist and hand is better than through thumb. But bigger thumb is always good.

[@Pepe-pq3om]

Not necessarily

[@igorsvacic217]

it would be interesing to make prostetics of different hands , put ha on a machine to scale numbers of strenght and tthan have a single armwrestler pull in differentt styles to see all kind of combinations and how it applies compared to his normal numbers

[@potpolima]

Brzenk - mutant thumb Zhok - mutant forearm Denis - mutant whole body

[@LeonItsMe]

Have you seen Game of arms?

[@StevenRayW]

Yoshi Kanai, the Japanese champ, once said in an interview that John's pinky is already about as big as his thumb.

[@auranomics2491]

I pulled him in an overalls in 2010. The first thing I noticed was how big his hand was to grip up with. It really surprised me. You said his fingers aren't long, well they're definitely not short either, well proportioned with the width and thickness. Bagent said John has gorilla hands

[@InnerSyncMusic]

what does it mean pulling through the thumb? i m not sure i get it...

[@isaacarzaga4216]

Best hand in the game

[@Costa_del_Artlepool]

...like peter griffin lol I wasn't ready for that

[@HyzersGR]

Larratt also used a can opener on Pushkar lol

[@Youdontknowme314]

Hungarian Salami Thumb !!!!

[@justaguyfromreddit]

Efen tho i have seen my picture like 200 times it still baffles me how big his thumb was

[@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes]

hahaha, yes Martino bringing us a literal gem with that pic

[@mantell]

"unproportional" is not a word, it is "disproportional"...

[@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes]

haha, yeah I wondered when I was writing it, but didn't bother to look it up🤣 next time

[@bjf5027]

I've pulled John before and the very first thing I noticed as soon as we gripped up was his massive thumb. I am not exaggerating when I say it was exactly the size of my big toe. It was honestly ridiculous to see in real life.

[@parkerbohnn]

This is the reason many bowlers do well in arm wrestling. A bowler's thumb normally is about 50 percent larger than a normal sized thumb. Wayne Webb did well in arm wrestling and never lifted weights but bowled for a living.

[@stevenjelinek5716]

Imagine what it looked like when he and Cyplenkov gripped up 😮

[@blankplanet]

If you wanna say how rare john’s hand is anatomy wise, then 99th percentile is wrong😅 Instead 1 percentile unit is what you need.

[@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes]

yeah but 99 sound cooler lol

[@blankplanet]

@@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes it does!

[@crimsonavengergaming4832]

Been training my thumb for 3 month's, it hasn't grown😢

[@WooliteMammoth]

Your thumb pad will grow, but not your actual thumb. John's actual THUMB is huge.

[@crimsonavengergaming4832]

@@afganalbahri99 everyday I train, which is 4-5 times a week

[@danielalcala1044]

​@@crimsonavengergaming4832a week has 7 days buddy

[@xe5375]

the unfortunate truth is, the actual bone structure of your thumb will unlikely change in any way naturally after puberty, due to your growth plates closing, unless u were to use PEDs like HGH etc. I would say John in some sense was lucky, because his dad introduced him to the sport at 13, which is literally when a person experiences unrivalled growth spurts that they will never experience again after, and his style of pulling through his thumb, particulary his toproll, plus puberty, perpetuated his thumb into a unrivalled genetic specimen. U could try looking for some kid, introduce him to armwrestling just as he's entering his teens, teach him thumb based pulling, and whether or not he ends up like John, will be a question left to ponder forever

[@crimsonavengergaming4832]

@@danielalcala1044 I know, but I was saying I train my thumb every time a do a weight training session, which is 4-5 times a week for me

[@giosulakadze7589]

yeah but as he got older this thick thumb is getting in the way cos his hand isnot strong and long enough to support it anymore

[@arifnugroho6342]

John thumb is crazy big

[@clash5j]

Seeing John's thumb in a video or even a picture can't do it justice like seeing it in person. I'm no puller, but John was nice enough to grip up with me in 2019 for a picture and while John is smiling for the camera, I'm just looking down in shock at that thumb

[@drygordspellweaver8761]

I hear it’s because everything on him is larger, so he appears proportional on camera but in person is huge

[@shannonbennett5692]

John vs pavlo what the hell was the camera man doing wtf

[@nanthipat1]

wow Big John

[@jacobsumner7892]

Just started doing at wrestling workouts about 2 months ago forearms are bigger arms not much but way stronger in the bicep and I’ve been blowing up my thumb 2 to 3 times a week can probably do a lil more soon but they’re noticeably bigger

[@markiyanhapyak349]

No way...!

[@agilalawin8792]

Plessss guys John breznk vs Matyushenko

[@Matthias-Bedard]

But what if you have no thumb!!!

[@NikitaBabanovArmwrestling]

Then you better have the strongest bottom 2 fingers lol. You're pretty much only going to want to be a supinating low gripper style, bone on bone gets pressure off and past your thumb.

[@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes]

then they can't tell you to lower your webbing ;)

[@JoelNewman-hx7ul]

I grew up armwrestling for fun against my dad who was not an armwresler but armwresled in pubs for money when he was drinking. I used to (20 years ago) utterly destroy almost everyone who wasn't at least 30kg's heavier than me and i was only about 73kg's back then. I still to this day have no fucken clue what i was doing that allowed me to win and i haven't armwrestled for well over a decade. Pretty sure i used bicep only, i was hooking. I hadn't a clue about top rolling or any other techniques back then. I sometimes wonder how id go these days being 95kg's and fairly lean but i think my muscle is built around work and id probably be worse not better than 20 years ago.

[@LeahRobb]

-T-o-m- John Thumb. 😁

[@agilalawin8792]

Matyushenko vs John breznk

[@bobsworkoutwarehousetv5207]

wow its like hes a good armwrestler or something

[@josie4065]

Dude's thumb is like a second wrist

[@ptrgr72]

Denis enters the chat

[@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes]

haha

[@kryptonianstrength8461]

The thing is prudniks thumbs even thicker than johns

[@Tranlock]

Bro showed Devon and his Can-Openers, but didn‘t show the funniest one against Dave recently xD

[@godabhi8599]

Dave ain't the Dave he used to be he lost to Kamil the same guy who lost to 18 year old Rino early this year. Realistically he should retire

[@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes]

yeah that one was kinda lame tbh lol

[@Tranlock]

@@godabhi8599 No, realistically he probably doesn‘t give too many F‘s nowadays being in the Top or not, he just pulls for fun I guess. In no way he should retire.

[@godabhi8599]

@Tranlock nah their is nothing fun about pulling when your neck is in constant pain now he is pulling only because of money but sooner or later he would be forced to pull lower level guys and if he keep on losing it would tarnish his reputation and legacy I hate seeing the guy who gave denis so much trouble like this

[@monstermagnet3150]

@@Tranlock He should really rest and start a medical treatment though

[@chrisw5742]

I used to stack 5 gallon water bottles at a water plant. After a while I was able to take 2 of them and hold them straight out and stack them 3 high on pallets with dividers coming off the conveyor belt.. for HOURS. One time I stacked for 16 hours straight. I was a beast then. John's thumb is much smaller than the water bottle necks. I had massive gripping strength then and I don't think there is much even he coulda done.

[@LeahRobb]

...right... You'd have beaten him at arm-wrestling...

[@chrisw5742]

@@LeahRobb I woulda gave it a shot anyway. I had people more than twice my size there who couldn't stack like me.

[@chrisw5742]

And the exact movements I was doing ALL DAY LONG EVERY DAY gave me strength in the exact places needed. I would pull the bottles off the belt by the necks and basically "press" them onto the pallets. I workout now but I don't have anywhere near the power I had then.

[@chrisw5742]

One of the greatest arm wrestlers gained his strength working.... LIFTING PIGS ON THE FARM. ;-)

[@LeahRobb]

@@chrisw5742 I am in no doubt you became a monster stacker. But John's thumb probably is as thick as a bottle neck for real.

[@ibanezrgt220a9]

💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@pcneststayinformed]

I hate that now Devon is winning matches back to back, some are claiming that Devon will take over John as the GOAT. I mean Devon is the 2nd GOAT but he can't replace John's way of pulling.

[@Red.Rabbit.Resistance]

imma just say it. Johns wife was the first person to call him the Perfect Storm. lmfaooooooooo im kidding, but yea.. lol

[@c808k]

I took a picture with him in 2018 and I threw up a 🤙with my right and he grabbed my hand like we were about to lock up for the pose, I didn't look at his thumb but it felt like I was holding a head of cabbage.😮

[@xkben90]

"I killed a man with THIS THUMB."

[@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes]

haha

[@rikt350]

How big is it actually lol?measurements anybody?

[@jayvasani150]

Brother, no matter how much you explain or speak, but one thing remember in this sport that nothing is more than power. 💪 If there is incredible powers, then not a any technique will work....💪

[@jayvasani150]

Example of this was the king of the table 4 main event match. Levan vs Devon

[@johankaruyan5536]

that's obvious, but then like, technique got devon to beat ermes soooooo.......

[@jayvasani150]

@@johankaruyan5536 When there was a match with Levan, where did Devon's technique go ......!!

[@johankaruyan5536]

it was because devon was too weak, but as u can see with ermes, ermes is strong but devon still beat him lol ! @@jayvasani150

[@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes]

yeah true, if you're strong enough you win even without techniuqe

[@jax9574]

The only people that neutralize him are guys like Denis (huge thumb) or guys with long fingers that can contain

[@mr.marino9247]

5:39 I see John´s fault. And was noticeable.

[@mynameisnobody3931]

Thats so unfair lol, does that mean we get to wear silicone sleeves on our thumbs to thicken them uo the 3 times the size 😂

[@wagessin3596]

I think one needs to like KZbin channels more to increase thumb size 😬 👍🏽👍🏽

[@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes]

haha, certainly couldn't hurt :)

[@biswasronit]

John and Denis's thumbs are just the same. Aint that insane?

[@MR.DEINOCHEIRUS]

Denis' is bigger and john's longer

[@biswasronit]

@@MR.DEINOCHEIRUS see at KOTT both of their thumbs look the same size.

[@MR.DEINOCHEIRUS]

@@biswasronit yes it s there that i saw it. Denis' slightly bigger and john's longer

[@EpiCat175]

Would you do a face reveal?

[@serotoninless2565]

thumb reveal

[@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes]

thumb reveal is way too personal I'm afraid

[@EpiCat175]

@@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes ohh yeah

[@EpiCat175]

@@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes then reveal forearm and bicep

[@marcusmouya]

4:25.. no john is not top rolling.. that is purely a hook...

[@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes]

yes, but it still attacks Pavlo's wrist almost like a toproll because of John's thumb

[@marcusmouya]

No it's not. A top roll is a purely outside move with pronation through the thumb and backpressure to attack the opponent's fingers. This is just a normal hook.@@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes

[@thureintun1687]

no, he don't toproll. instead he d!ckroll people

[@drygordspellweaver8761]

@marcusmouya you trolling? His argument is laid out crystal clearly. You may not agree with the argument but just repeating “it’s not a top roll” doesn’t help make your point. We already know it’s not a top roll. Duh. But his large thumb bends the opponents wrist back even in a hook as IF it was a top roll.. That’s the entire point.

[@woahblackbetty7691]

People who accidently have their thumb cut off have it replaced with their big toe usually.

[@ronniemillsap]

hummm, wonder if any arm wrestle : )

[@the90schildmashups92]

He's aging too quickly now. He needs to do a whole body detox, start clearing out his liver and remineralizing with loads of pressure cooked vegetables, and balancing his oxidation rate using hair tissue mineral analysis and certain supplements based on if he's in fast oxidation, slow or mixed oxidation

[@walterrussell6584]

His thumb is that thick due to that being his style and the tendons and muscle of his thumb have thickened over time. Just look at how thick professional rock climbers fingers are.

[@drygordspellweaver8761]

Nope it’s definitely genetic.

[@CONSTANTpaswan07]

Non of these work when you grip denis cyplenkov

[@user-mh1jf9mb6n]

the best armwrestler have good genetics like denis have a big dumb,devon have a long arm

[@originsdecoded3508]

girls: told ya, bigger is better

[@Sohailhgfggggh6]

Travis disagrees, says faster is always better

[@syntholshoulders1842]

If John was 40 he could beat levan n pretty much anyone hes a freak

[@bruce7014]

Does that somewhat explain why john had such difficult against denis? Denis hand even more bizarre than john's hand?

[@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes]

yeah basically neither guy had a chance of cupping, and denis has more back pressure.

[@Pepe-pq3om]

And that's why Denis had a problem with John in the past, he was trying to hook John the entire match instead of using his even thicker hand to his advantage. Goes to show how much of a freak Denis was, he didn't change his technique to beat John (for their last match before the one in KOTT), he just got so strong that he simply blasted through John's pronation

[@dustinlower6546]

I've gripped up with him a couple times. One time a match at USAA nationals. I was a 154 amateur against him in the overalls LOL. He was a gentleman and let me get any grip I wanted and his hand felt comically large and thick. Needless to say he slowly pulled me over. 😆💪

[@andrewgordon777]

So basically what you're saying is John can impregnate women with just his thumb?

[@frickxnas]

John thumbed up my video once and instantly got 100k likes

[@LeahRobb]

I've only gripped up with hi for a photoshoot, so it didn't feel too strange. If power had been applied, then it would be a different ball game.

[@rikt350]

Like it

[@EpiCat175]

Second!!!

[@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes]

my man

[@edwinmariano5131]

Non sense

[@marcusmouya]

you're just stealing other people's analytic work. You are copying exactly what many other says in videos and it isn't the first time that you are doing it

[@monstermagnet3150]

@bpj1720 Yeah I'm also interested

[@marcusmouya]

Many people have spoken about this and used exact sentences he is using.. devon larrat and others.@bpj1720

[@humanmonke]

love to watch the content 👍 keep it up

[@Kapitoshka848]

Супер мэн🎉🎉🎉