“TOOL AND DIE MAKING” 1953 NATIONAL TOOL AND DIE MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION PROMO FILM XD10964

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11 ай бұрын

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This 1953 film directed by Matt Farrell for the National Tool and Die Manufacturers Association looks at the importance of tool and die manufacturing for the functioning of American Industry at large. It begins with the contributions that American Industry has made to everyday life and how tools and die were used to manufacture these goods. This is followed by an overview of the apprentice system and some of the skills that toolmakers need to learn such as operation of machinery, meticulous measurement, and reading blueprints. This is followed by footage of the creation and operation of some tools and the development of cutting edge die for the accurate manufacturing of plastics.
0:17 “National Tools and Die Manufacturers Association”, 0:27 “Tool and Die Making - Keystone of Mass Production!”, 0:44 a message about the importance of manufacturing for society, 1:36 shots of modern industrial facilities and machines, 2:20 a machine making razor blades, 3:00 different appliances like fridges, stoves, and televisions, 3:36 tool and die shops including the J.A.K. Tool Co., 3:56 a man cleaning a mold for a fan blade followed by the mold in operation, 4:39 woman placing the fan blade on a fan, 5:17 a machine creating sealed beam headlight parts, 5:45 a press forming steel car body tops, 6:33 a machine creating zippers, 6:51 men operating a hot forge, 7:28 engineers working on a McDonnell F2H Banshee fighter jet, 8:02 and a Pershing tank, the K1 picket submarine surfacing, 8:17 men loading and firing anti-aircraft gun, 8:52 men building television sets, 9:21 a man at home turning on his television to a boxing match, 9:44 a toolmaker and his apprentice looking over a plan, 10:08 the apprentice working with a machine, 11:11 men working in a tool and die shop, 11:28 apprentice being instructed and then operating a drill press, shaper, a milling machine, and grinders, 12:07 apprentice heat treating metal, 12:17 apprentice learning how to read a blueprint and do math, 12:33 apprentice working independently on a tool, 13:15 the apprentice receiving his degree, 13:58 toolmakers in a shop using fixtures, 14:26 a fixture to check the accuracy of ball bearings, 14:38 a man operating a drill jig, 14:50 a man measuring with complicated equipment and overview of his gauge blocks, 16:15 man drilling holes into steel, 16:36 a man operating a printing machine that recreates molds, 17.05 a forming press in operation, 17:25 the of the press in operation, 17:46 plastic being molded, 18:09 a toolmaker preparing a die, 18:55 a boss looking over a blueprint with his employee, 19:27 finished die being prepared for shipping, 19:40 Annual Journal of the National Tool and Die Manufacturers Association, 20:06 toolmakers working in their shops on different projects, 21:34 Editor Joseph Faro, Director Matt Farrell, 21:44 Farrell and Gage Films Inc. 1953
The National Tooling & Machining Association (NTMA) is a US-based membership trade association with the collective power of 1200 thriving tool & die and precision manufacturing companies representing more than $35 billion in sales.
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@iteachtime
@iteachtime 15 күн бұрын
Another excellent film that might have been lost forever. Thank you Periscope Film!
@jimwhipple9784
@jimwhipple9784 11 ай бұрын
I'm 72 years old this June. I've worked as a Journey level Tool and Die/ Moldmaker for over 50 years. I owned a CNC prototype shop for 30 years. I just gave all my tools and my last two machines to a guy I apprenticed 20 years ago. I have parts that were made on my tooling on both Voyager 1 and 2. I've got parts on the moon. It's been a good life. This trade allowed me to raise three children and send them to school.
@davidholubetz177
@davidholubetz177 10 ай бұрын
That is so cool that you have had that life, and have left a legacy. Very inspiring. Just think of your parts flying in space !
@Skunkhunt_42
@Skunkhunt_42 10 ай бұрын
Hell yea Jim! 😎 it is one hell of a craft ain't it
@welderfixer
@welderfixer 10 ай бұрын
Jim, thank you for your commitment to the trade and to those that follow. However, I am saddened by the fact that this country is losing its edge and the skilled men needed to keep it running. Few will ever know even the smell of a tool shop let alone the feel of a truly precision machine or tool. Oh the thought of a brand new Hardinge lathe or a Moore jig borer built back in the 60's. All the best to you and yours!
@gregl6002
@gregl6002 10 ай бұрын
Congrats Jim our country is lacking in people with good hands. I am an aircraft mechanic and since all of our machinists retired I sort of inherited the job, I soet of apprenticed for 20 years but I would never call myself a machinist, I'm a mechanic that can work a few machines
@AdamBechtol
@AdamBechtol 10 ай бұрын
Nice.
@mikesimms3380
@mikesimms3380 11 ай бұрын
It's interesting to hear politicians talk about bringing manufacturing back to America. What they don't understand is that it takes six years for a person to become a proficient tool and die maker. Without tool and die makers, we cannot regain our place in the global market. Still, we send kids off to universities who have no business being there. We need more tradesmen (and women) to make our country run!
@chrisfreemesser5707
@chrisfreemesser5707 11 ай бұрын
Agreed...we don't put as much value on the skilled trades as other nations do, despite the fact that somebody in the trades who's good at what they do can make a ton of money and never lack for work. It's a situation that really needs to change...
@danielebrparish4271
@danielebrparish4271 10 ай бұрын
Most of those jobs and the factories they are in are now run by computers. They change the drill bits and grinding wheels by robot and use lasers to make measurements. They don't requre insurance, retirement, vacation or sick days. They work 24 hours a day without a break and never file a complaint.
@WyvernYT
@WyvernYT 10 ай бұрын
@@danielebrparish4271 It's the same process as back in the day: When you do enough of something it becomes worthwhile to invent a machine to do it for you. We don't need as many people running drill presses or peering at micrometers these days. But the descendants of the old school T&D makers need to do most of what their predecessors did and build robots too. I used to know a woman in robot development; it's a busy field these days.
@stringlarson1247
@stringlarson1247 10 ай бұрын
100% agree. I don't think anyone should graduate HS without at least 2 sem. of 'shop'. We really don't need millions of kids going into debt to get a degree in 'mar. comm.' or other useless twaddle.
@j78513
@j78513 10 ай бұрын
@@danielebrparish4271 I work on those machines, and I tend laugh at the "robot doesn't require sick days" because they do, and it's even more expensive than a person. I love my robots, but the one thing a robot can't do understand if a process is good or not. The tolerances might be within one ten thousandths, but it doesn't mean it's made right.
@marstondavis
@marstondavis 11 ай бұрын
I was an apprentice mold maker in the mid '70's. I worked with some very talented men, and it was a great time in my life. I told them when I started that I was a sponge, and their knowledge was my water. They loved that. I miss those days and those men. I still have my Gerstner toolbox and you can see that same oak toolbox throughout this video. That toolbox was given to me by Red Rowen when he retired. It was in great shape then and still is. He left it full of precision tools and gauges. He saved me maybe $4,000. Red is gone now, but I always think of him when I open my Gerstner box. Thanks, buddy!
@amtrakjohn
@amtrakjohn 11 ай бұрын
Great story. I also inherited my Dad’s machine tools, micrometers and other gauges; makers like Keuffel and Esser. He was an old school T and D man after the War. Retired ’72. Worked first for Consolidated, (later Con Vultee) and then Convair in San Diego. I still remember the “open houses” Convair would have for the families. I recall the hydraulic and gravity “drop hammers” and their amazing racket. These were the pre CNC days of course. It was mainly done by hand measurements, w/ very fine calibrations on superb machines. Good memories.
@flipflopsguy8868
@flipflopsguy8868 11 ай бұрын
Wonderful story, sad things and men of value have to passed on for this thing called progress.
@onkcuf
@onkcuf 11 ай бұрын
Nice.
@onkcuf
@onkcuf 11 ай бұрын
I started as a grub drill press kid with a K Mart cheap ass stand up.
@davidm4160
@davidm4160 10 ай бұрын
I wonder how many thousands of these memories there are? I inherited my Gerstner from my dad. Still using it today, and will pass it on to my son. I served my apprenticeship in 1980/84, just as the t & d industry was computerizing. It's sad to see how our trade has been dismantled by the men in power.
@elderlypoodle9181
@elderlypoodle9181 11 ай бұрын
My late husband was a Tool and Die maker. 45 years in the business. I was and will always be so proud of him. We never hired anyone to fix things at home. He did it. Interesting to watch this film. All those terms of the trade I had heard for 34 years of marriage. Thank you for this.
@trappenweisseguy27
@trappenweisseguy27 11 ай бұрын
Bless you.
@lilblackduc7312
@lilblackduc7312 11 ай бұрын
Along with the women who were in production, the women behind the scenes helped make our country great! Thank you...🇺🇸 😎👍☕
@Pow3llMorgan
@Pow3llMorgan 11 ай бұрын
There are quite probably many pieces of machinery that still function today because of parts he made! As tool & die makers / machinists, I feel like we get to touch the entire world through the parts and tools we design, produce and handle. I can only assume your husband left behind a _huge_ mechanical legacy, as, I am sure, a human one. RIP :)
@flipflopsguy8868
@flipflopsguy8868 11 ай бұрын
That was my dad, served his country during the Korean war, came out and got a education in manufacturing, started working in the Die Casting business, started a big family with car and home, and provided for us all even after his passing due to leukemia in 07, I think they don't build them like that anymore.
@elderlypoodle9181
@elderlypoodle9181 11 ай бұрын
@@Pow3llMorgan Yes! God bless you sir 👍❤️
@bomberaustychunksbruv4119
@bomberaustychunksbruv4119 2 ай бұрын
54 year old Toolmaker here, I was in at the beginning of CNC and I was able to code also. But before we did all that I was taught all the origional stuff. I was taught how the use files and a hacksaw over a whole week!. After learning all the rest (Lathe/mills etc) went on to Metallurgy and design. My apprenticeship was at a Perfex Works, producing punched sheet metal products. The UK factory has gone now and the tooling and machines sold to another company, the site is now a housing estate. I now live in Australia and have worked on some of the largest machinery used in Iron Ore mining, including stackers, reclaimers, conveyors, crushers and rail/locos. I still code as a hobby and build small robots for fun, fly home built autonomous balsa model planes.
@scottrackley4457
@scottrackley4457 Ай бұрын
One year younger but my shop was all old heads. I heard all this stuff from people that the old guys wouldn't teach you stuff, wrong. They wanted to teach but you had to show them something. I'm guessing from the file comment you made a T slot cleaner first thing. Then T handles, 123 blocks, and proper training. When they passed on a design role with a lot of computer stuff they put my name forward, and I will never forget the confidence that gave me. These guys were trusting me to design the die and they would help make and set it. I actually miss when I learned more per day than I did then, but I still try to learn (or remember) one thing a day. Without old Masters, like us, training apprentices, this trade will die. However, got 2 new ones last year and they both look good, so there is that. edit: I showed them the compound sine vise the other day and got glass stares
@DavidSmith-bh7fd
@DavidSmith-bh7fd 10 ай бұрын
Back in the days when America was strong and bold and actually made things. We've fallen so far since these days.
@CorbinAce
@CorbinAce 9 ай бұрын
My first Machining job was working for Raytheon as a machine operator with no experience,, turning Parts for guided missiles on a small production lathe, in 1952. As I gained experience I became a jig and fixture maker and eventually on to Tool and Die. That was the hard way for sure. I ended up working in 6 Die shops in my life. I learned something new in every shop. You never stop learning in the machining trade.. I retired in 1999 as a Tool and Die Shop supervisor. I find you never learn to relax after the trade. I still work to way too tight tolerances in my work shop out back even with wood.😉 I was given a 9" South Bend Lathe for free. I made fixtures to accommodate some small milling jobs. I'm 88 now and still can't give up. LOL
@je862
@je862 9 ай бұрын
what was the brand of lathe in 1952? Was it brand new back then?
@johnmarshall8802
@johnmarshall8802 2 ай бұрын
40 year tool and die maker. My kids always complain when working with me. They don't understand why things need to be so close.
@scoutdogfsr
@scoutdogfsr Ай бұрын
You are an inspiration sir.
@haroldpearson6025
@haroldpearson6025 10 ай бұрын
Im 82 and served a 5 year apprenticeship as a jig and toolmaker in UK in the 1950s. People are amazed at how I can fix things! My life long hobby has been model engineering with 7 passenger hauling steam locomotives to my name. I have taught my Cambodian step daughter to change door locks, change fuzes, fix leaky pipes etc.
@scottrackley4457
@scottrackley4457 Ай бұрын
I have a niece that was interested in what I did from a young age, always asking what my tools did. She's still a very good machinist, but she didn't choose Tool and Die. Smarter, she became a locksmith and a very good one.
@Roybwatchin
@Roybwatchin 10 ай бұрын
I was a tool and die maker just out of high school in 1983, small shop and the lead man's name was Jake. Seven years later, we named our first son Jake. Good times back in those days, running conventional equipment and only had one CNC machine. Learned how important tolerances and precision were and carried that throughout my life. I now have 37 yrs at a major aerospace company and have been in Manufacturing R&D for the last 29 yrs. I couldn't have gotten to where I am today without learning the trade from ole Jake and the rest of the crew there.
@stringlarson1247
@stringlarson1247 10 ай бұрын
During HS and just after, I worked in a couple of shops around that time as well. I'd love to have a manually operated Bridgeport milling machine. Something about it.
@je862
@je862 9 ай бұрын
Good post! I went to tech school in the 1980's and both instructors had apprenticed in the 1940's.....those guys were sharp! Learned a lot from them.
@savage22bolt32
@savage22bolt32 2 ай бұрын
In 1973 I started in aerospace mfg. Now retired, anything I work on gets an edge break or chamfer. I hate sharp edges!
@65gtotrips
@65gtotrips 11 ай бұрын
We as a society wouldn’t be anywhere near where we currently are without machinists, tool and die makers.
@axeman2638
@axeman2638 11 ай бұрын
and the lack of appreciation for that fact is a big part of why our society is collapsing.
@onkcuf
@onkcuf 11 ай бұрын
Label me a machinest.
@blakedblake6143
@blakedblake6143 11 ай бұрын
@@GIwillo He's not wrong, and neither are you. As a maker of 32 years and a direct victim of NAFTA, this country gave away a whole generation of skill building and knowledge in this field, and all the ancillary businesses that supported tool and die just went away. Manufacturing was like 65 % gdp back in the day, more. We were the best in making almost everything. Now? 20 years till we restart making our own microchips again. Huge security problem. Greed and globalization destroyed who we were.
@axeman2638
@axeman2638 11 ай бұрын
@@GIwillo How can you have a functional community without respect for and understanding of the engineering that makes our modern lifestyle possible?
@sclogse1
@sclogse1 10 ай бұрын
And Cab Callaway..
@cpm1003
@cpm1003 11 ай бұрын
This is my business in 2023. While we build brand new tooling for new parts, some of the stamping dies we run probably date back to the 50s. Everyone these days looks up to CNC machining and 3D printing, but if you need millions of parts in a reasonable time, stamping is hard to beat.
@bertnl530
@bertnl530 10 ай бұрын
It all comes to numbers. If you need one or a few parts which are no longer in production anymore, CNC or 3D is the way to go. Actually armed forces use portable workshops with 3D machines to manufacture spare parts when they are on mission. It is a big difference whether one can replace a broken part with a 3D print or have to fly in a spare part from another continent.
@prennyabs
@prennyabs 10 ай бұрын
@cpm1003 do you make press brake tooling? Im after a 2-stage hinge tool. Not sure if you’re able to help, but if so, let’s get in touch. Im currently improvising my own 🙄
@scottrackley4457
@scottrackley4457 Ай бұрын
It's always been this way since the stamping turrets came out combined with break presses. They can make numerous different things, but hard tooling wins in numbers.
@PROUDCANADIANGIRL
@PROUDCANADIANGIRL 10 ай бұрын
My husband has been a tool and die maker for 3O years and I wish kids today were taught more about how important they are!!! I think kids think things come from the store but it was a tool and die maker who made this happen!!!! #weneedmoretradespeople. Like the man said…”so many things wouldn’t exist without a tool and die maker”. Let’s all band together to get kids all over north American to take tool and die!!!! Please 🇨🇦 🇺🇸
@DonariaRegia
@DonariaRegia 10 ай бұрын
In America public schools used to have metal shop, wood shop and auto shop. Those classes were invaluable to not just toolmakers but set up all students for a life familiar with tools and their function. There is an intentional effort to create low education and low wages; with people too tired, distracted, and divided to fight for what we have lost.
@Taskforce1
@Taskforce1 4 ай бұрын
dang, I wish our country still stood for this..
@jmfa57
@jmfa57 11 ай бұрын
My dad was the son of a Swedish immigrant tool and die maker. Dad told me many, many years ago about the gauge blocks whose surfaces were so precise that they would literally stick together. Our country really lost a lot by deindustrializing. I got to see the very tail end demise of much of our manufacturing prowess when I started as an engineer in 1980. I hope we get that back someday. GREAT video!
@stanbrown915
@stanbrown915 11 ай бұрын
It's called "marrying", pushes out the air and creates a vacuum but the surfaces must be very smooth. They are really tuff to get apart
@stringlarson1247
@stringlarson1247 10 ай бұрын
My grandfathers were tool and die people from Sweden as well. My father followed in their footsteps, and my mom was in industrial supply sales. I, too, saw the downfall of manufacturing in the Midwest starting in the 70's in the upper Midwest. I went into EE and started writing firmware for industrial controls, then biomedical and into RTOS. My background from the machine tool world has been priceless over the years.
@je862
@je862 9 ай бұрын
Are you still in it, or retired?
@stringlarson1247
@stringlarson1247 9 ай бұрын
@@stanbrown915 I've done that with sharpening stones. Using 8000 grit and 10000 grit with water. Dang near impossible to undo that without damaging either one. That is now on my 'do not do' list.
@Two4Brew
@Two4Brew 11 ай бұрын
My grand uncle Jack used his WW2 GI Bill benefits to get a BSME, followed by an MS in metallurgy. He worked his way to being one of the top 10 tool and die designers in New England.
@flipflopsguy8868
@flipflopsguy8868 11 ай бұрын
👍👍
@user-mp8ii3ls9d
@user-mp8ii3ls9d 10 ай бұрын
Where might I ask? New England (RI) machinist here
@Two4Brew
@Two4Brew 10 ай бұрын
@@user-mp8ii3ls9d Uncle Jack worked most of his career for Brown Package Machinery in East Longmeadow, MA.
@paulbfields8284
@paulbfields8284 11 ай бұрын
One more comment from this humble tool and die maker.. after watching this I’m keenly aware of the education I got from my dad who taught me nine years and the experiences I enjoyed the last 43 years doing exactly what is seen in this video. I was trained in the same way and to the same degree as these individuals. So we’re my guys.. I’m proud to have accomplished this in my life and I have my apprentice journeyman ti also thank for sharing the experience. I’m Blessed to still do this for my occupation. They don’t appreciate us in the machine tool industry anymore.. they just open and close doors and push buttons a lot. That’s fine but I’ll take this any day.
@jackd4246
@jackd4246 11 ай бұрын
I am a young tool and die machinist who also handles our shop’s fabrication work. It is a line of work that needs many more interested young people involved in it to continue to drive innovation and keep our standards in manufacturing.
@flipflopsguy8868
@flipflopsguy8868 11 ай бұрын
👍
@forrestking9372
@forrestking9372 11 ай бұрын
Is the field declining population wise? And how has automation affected the industry, has it reduced the minimum threshold of craftsmanship required to make high precision products? Or has it increased the amount of technical expertise required to be a competent journeyman?
@1978garfield
@1978garfield 11 ай бұрын
Do they still do this in the US? If so I assume it is just programing a CNC?
@jackd4246
@jackd4246 11 ай бұрын
@@forrestking9372 As a whole there seems to be a need for younger guys in the skilled trades. On the topic of training; high volume production machine shops, the barrier seems to be lower with the use of CNC machining. But in an environment where I am handling tool and die work, one off repair parts, reverse engineering, and fabrication, manual machining is much more practical for most of our work. It simply is not work the programming time and setup to run it on CNC. So we have to have all of the manual machining skills in addition to CNC operation for milling, sinker and wire EDM, and waterjet cutting at my shop.
@jackd4246
@jackd4246 11 ай бұрын
@@1978garfield CNC takes soo much time to program and setup. We only use it for high volume production jobs, and for tolling that would be nearly impossible to manually mill due to odd profiles that would be time consuming to do by hand. CNC milling, waterjet, and EDM are useful assets to what we do. But still, most of our work is manual machining and fabrication.
@scottbrown7415
@scottbrown7415 10 ай бұрын
My father was a tool and die maker and a mold designer. Our government sold out the tool and die industry in the early 1970's. They not only ruined their markets by allowing cheaper overseas companies to come in, they literally starved them out of business by giving defense contracts to offshore companies. We are now seeing the results of our own governments greed and malfeasance as a third generation of American kids is graduating into the work world with no manufacturing skills or even basic knowledge of mechanical or electronic devices.
@timdodd3897
@timdodd3897 10 ай бұрын
My uncle was a tool and die maker for Buick in Flint. He taught me how to build racing engines. I miss him. RIP Larry Ehr
@lorimayer1514
@lorimayer1514 10 ай бұрын
My Dad started as a Tool & Die maker at Buick in Flint also. He went into engineering and then went up through different management positions. He was finally the Master Mechanic in the stamping plant (12). He was very proud of reaching that position. I am also a Tool maker (40 years) and have my dad's Gerstner tool box and all his tools that he used. Some of my tools were purchased by my dad from retiring toolmakers in the early Sixties. Some of my tools are close to a hundred years old. Still work great! 75 percent of what's in my Tool box is older than me. I'm proud of my dad's and my career. My Dad and I still work on projects together and still use our training and engineering abilities to build some cool things.
@paulbfields8284
@paulbfields8284 11 ай бұрын
I belonged to the NTMA through my apprenticeship and as a journeyman shop owner till 1990 when I left because they wanted us local shop owners to get on a plane and fly to China and share our knowledge with them.. I said no way until they stop being a Communist Society.. I watched most of the Mold shops dwindle and die away over the next few years.. because they taught em how to compete with us. They were building $45k molds for $16k .. stupid. My tool and die shop made it till 2016 when I finally closed it and went to work for one of my customers. I’m still there today.. 7 years later.. I’m 67.. I though the NTMA made a fatal error in judgment.. I think I was right.
@moosemaimer
@moosemaimer 10 ай бұрын
I work at a small manufacturing company, we make precision machined components for industry. Most of our output comes from a pair of automated CNC mills, but all the processes require custom-built jigs and fixtures that are designed in-house and fabricated by our machine shop. So even though the parts we make are going into things like satellites, they still rely on someone who knows how to run a milling machine, lathe, drill press, etc.
@brettp5543
@brettp5543 10 ай бұрын
I worked in the Tooling shop as Jig & Fixture builder for McDonald Douglas Aircraft during the 60's. We built production tools for the DC 10 and various missile/space systems. I personally worked on the engine (third stage) test stand for the Saturn Five launch vehicle, it was enormous. So I contributed in some small way to the flights to the moon. I spent the early years of my working life there as a young apprentice.
@bingosunnoon9341
@bingosunnoon9341 5 ай бұрын
I worked for McDonnell Aircraft in the sixties too. I worked in tooling in Building one. It was a good job
@brettp5543
@brettp5543 5 ай бұрын
@@bingosunnoon9341 Yes, I was in the Jig n Fixture shop (Dept 632) ... I was 18 when I became an apprentice. All the journeymen had been there since before WW 2. I loved my time there. I went back some years ago to find it all gone and an a/c museum there. So many memories 1966/1969.
@Watertender-lu7vj
@Watertender-lu7vj 10 ай бұрын
My 1st wife's family were all tool and die makers for General Motors. They each worked over 40 years in the trade. Her father was a tool room welder, one of her uncles was a group leader and the other ended up being superintendent of the tool room. None of their children wanted anything to do with the skilled trades and I am the only one who did. My Journeyman's card is as a Plant Utilities Engineer and I have been in the trades for close to 50 years myself. I have some of their tools and a couple of great wooden tool boxes to keep them in. I try to get young people interested in the skilled trades and help them in any way possible to make them into good reliable tradesmen. This is the only way to keep the trades alive...
@workingtheworld68
@workingtheworld68 5 ай бұрын
My grandad also tool and die maker for GM is whole career, all graveyard shift. He had amazing tools at home that I as a child could barely decipher what they did. When he retired they brought him back to train the next generation
@cjcarver6290
@cjcarver6290 2 ай бұрын
I have my dad's wooden tool box. He was a tool & die repairman for Delco Products in Kettering, Ohio.
@jamesbaggech4127
@jamesbaggech4127 3 ай бұрын
I started my formal apprenticeship at Premier Tool Works in 1979 through the Tool and Die institute. The owner at that time Carl Gutman paid for my education. Thank you Carl and Winifred Gutman for all you did for me!! Master Tool Makers like Jan Wayne Barkdoll, Francis Stols, Alfred Milek, Walter Dizerwa were incredible men to work with. In my career I was able to serve three apprenticeships. Machinist, Tool and Die maker and plastic injection mold maker. I want to encourage any young person reading this to seriously consider becoming a tool maker! With great joy I can say .... It has and still has had a profound effect on my life, my wife's life and my children's lives. Being a Toolmaker is truly one of the greatest gifts God has ever given to me.
@PeriscopeFilm
@PeriscopeFilm 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the awesome comment.
@glennschemitsch8341
@glennschemitsch8341 10 ай бұрын
Retired now and I miss the trade, worked 50 years as a tool & die maker. Watched from filing dies to wire edm. The computerized machines took it away from America to lower paid workers with less bench skill, but you cannot stop progress. Cheaper cost products but improved quality. These are the good old days, right now.
@bertnl530
@bertnl530 10 ай бұрын
You still need people who can translate a design or prototype into a working tool
@kennethjohnson9370
@kennethjohnson9370 11 ай бұрын
My uncle' used to be a tool and Die maker in the 70s he worked long and hard he made a lot of money doing pieces work you have to be on the ball to this type of work
@flipflopsguy8868
@flipflopsguy8868 11 ай бұрын
👍
@MegaMobass
@MegaMobass 11 ай бұрын
I work in a small time tool and die shop run by my uncle. I’m working my way to learning the trade from him and another well experienced tradesman. Super cool video!
@flipflopsguy8868
@flipflopsguy8868 11 ай бұрын
👍
@philipgoldsby74
@philipgoldsby74 11 ай бұрын
The Navy jet at 7:27 is a North American FJ-1 Fury. Note that the image is reversed. The "S" tail code is for Carrier Air Group 5 (CVG-5), squadron VF-5A. The jet engine being installed, and detailed at 7:38, is an Allison J35-A-2 turbojet.
@theprof73
@theprof73 11 ай бұрын
A couple of F9F panthers at 7:46 also
@rkelly4723
@rkelly4723 10 ай бұрын
Not Grumman Panthers, they're McDonnell F2H Banshees.
@yogendrakumarsharma1608
@yogendrakumarsharma1608 10 ай бұрын
I am from India, in 1960 my father started, die making in Delhi, with one lathe, drill, tool Post grinder. Actually my father was a Engraver. At that time, only 5-10 mold maker, and 5-7 from my community. So you can say that, The starting of die making was started by my community in Delhi, India.
@cliffchilders5820
@cliffchilders5820 3 ай бұрын
I am a retired " tool & die maker". 40 years on the job. Loved every minute of it!!!
@Paiadakine
@Paiadakine 10 ай бұрын
Today half the kids graduating High School cant fix a flat tire, cant jump start a car, cant siphon gas, cant assemble an IKEA table, cant change a faucet. But they can go to college, get a useless degree and be 100K in debt in 4 years.
@anthonyiannone7618
@anthonyiannone7618 10 ай бұрын
We would be doing great if it only half of the kids today were as you describe , i believe its much higher than half. Kids have been brainwashed by the democrats to go to college and get useless degrees since at least the 70's . lets face it if you work with your hands your considered 2nd class in this country, and i speak from personal experience on that!!!!
@michaelwills1926
@michaelwills1926 9 ай бұрын
Based on some videos I’ve seen they can’t read an analog clock either
@RedDogForge
@RedDogForge 9 ай бұрын
Yep and it's our, and our parents fault. We could demand they restore the trades to HS curriculums.
@lingcod91
@lingcod91 5 ай бұрын
So true . . . worse yet is they see no need to learn, instead they demand entry into any profession, without any knowledge of the demands of that profession. And College is not used for education but in order to make money.
@Paiadakine
@Paiadakine 5 ай бұрын
@@lingcod91 I would agree. Universities should not provide useless degrees. Some kids should look into the trades, electrical plumbing, construction, instead of history anthropology degrees.
@jomiar309
@jomiar309 11 ай бұрын
It's amazing what we had, and trying to get custom parts now, it's also amazing how much we've lost in the last few decades. I have enormous respect for those that create jigs, dyes, and tools! I wish we still had prevalent apprenticeships and journeyman work, but it seems pretty hard to find good ones these days.
@Bret4207
@Bret4207 11 ай бұрын
We've lost so much in this country. Being a tool and die maker or a master millwright or any of a number of other jobs used to be a respected field, and as noted in the film, you had job security. Much of that has either gone with the idea of skilled labor or is done in other countries where more traditional values still hold sway. If we could just get it into the heads of the younger people that working with your head and hands is still a good way to make a living! Welders, plumbers, machinists, tool and die makers, pattern makers. Instead they want a cushy office job, or no job at all and let the taxpayer support them! Bah! The ramblings of an old man I suppose.
@fredflintstone6163
@fredflintstone6163 10 ай бұрын
Don't forget the man with an ax and saw that could build a House in the Forrest
@skipd9164
@skipd9164 10 ай бұрын
I am part of the last generation that worked in the old manufacturing industry. Did apprenticeship ( 1980 ) with a buddy at United Shoe Manufacturing corporation ( USMC ). A once powerful and great manufacturing Corp. that allowed me to see what it was like. My fellow graduates went to different machining department's. I went to piece work on a vertical and horizontal Cincinnati mill that had 20 machines. Others went to large and small plainers, 4 spindle drill press, cutter and drill sharpening, lathe, turret lathe, and tool and dy shop. A once busy 3 shift factory with its own foundry but now 1 shift. I then worked for GE in Lynn MASS leaving as an R 25 CNC horz boring mill operator. In 87 there were layoffs and I resigned before they started. I worked in the gear plant in Lynn MASS. All the machines were manual and for large parts needing overhead cranes with crews to position and remove parts. The GEAR plant is now a vacant lot and the once proud employer of 20k employees in 3 divisions has 3,5k and 1 division. I at least had an opportunity to work in factories before our politicians sold us out
@IDapto77
@IDapto77 10 ай бұрын
When I graduated highschool in 1996 our career counselor told me I would be a bum if I did jobs like this and that I need to go to college and learn computer programming because there is this thing called the Internet that was starting up and if I get in now I will be set for life. That wasn't true and now we have a shortage of people who can do this kind of technical work. Thank you public education.
@bluegrassman3040
@bluegrassman3040 10 ай бұрын
Exactly. I graduated in 2004, and most of my teachers pushed college degree w/ a desk job. Only ones who pushed trades were the teachers in the vocational school.
@WyvernYT
@WyvernYT 10 ай бұрын
There are already too many people doing computer programming. (...said the Comp Sci major...) Trust me, the world doesn't need more half-assed programming; we've already got plenty. If you can make a living building useful things, go for it.
@martindennehy3030
@martindennehy3030 10 ай бұрын
And now the same one's complain when they can't get a tradesmen to do the simplest of jobs, and these tradesmen are now able to name their price 😅😅
@bingosunnoon9341
@bingosunnoon9341 5 ай бұрын
Your counselor was right. Ronald Reagan destroyed the industry. It is a crummy job now. A world famous employer where I live pays tool makers 15 dollars an hour now for tools that mold shoes and other consumer products. I won't say the name but it rhymes with Mikey.
@savage22bolt32
@savage22bolt32 2 ай бұрын
A huge thank you to everyone who left a comment. Perusing through the comments brought me a lot of joy and memories of my 40 year career in aerospace manufacturing.
@terrychandler3969
@terrychandler3969 3 ай бұрын
I have 57 yrs as a tool&die &mold maker when I walked into my first shop I had never seen one but I instantly knew I could make some things in there I've done aerospace automotive just about anything you can think of you never quit learning but sense industry went offshore tool&die has basically died CNC has replaced alot if we don't bring it back we won't be the nation we were. All us old guys will be gone soon there will be no one to teach
@noworriesmate5903
@noworriesmate5903 3 ай бұрын
We have another world War ( which we are getting close ) we are screwed!
@Shawn666Hellion
@Shawn666Hellion 10 ай бұрын
Ive been doing centerless grinding,surface grinding, and form grinding for 24 years, damn good trade to work in,no student loan debt either,you earn as you learn
@danielneuenschwander7381
@danielneuenschwander7381 11 ай бұрын
I spent 44 years in the manufacturing industry. I started out as a milling machine machinist, then N/C (Numerical Control) Programmer, Designer, and finally a cutting tool designer & process specification writer for a couple of aerospace companies. Starting out with learning how to work with my hands laid the foundation for my career, and even in retirement, I still call upon those traits learned, truly not so long ago.
@1978garfield
@1978garfield 11 ай бұрын
I had never realized that NC was a thing before CNC. What was Numerical Control?
@danielneuenschwander7381
@danielneuenschwander7381 11 ай бұрын
@@1978garfield N/C started out using punched tape in binary code. When computers started coming into play, you wrote the source code in APT - Automatic Programmed Tool language, similar to the old FORTRAN style of language. You created your geometry using specific terms, then create tool path to drive the cutting tool, whether it be on a milling machine or lathe. The code would then be run through a post processor which created the specific XYZ coordinates, preparatory functions - G Codes, and auxiliary/miscellaneous functions - M Codes. CNC - Computer/Computerized Numerical Control had logic built into the machine controller module that recognizes G/M codes as well as XYZ coordinates. It does the post processing for you in a way.
@Watchmaker_Gereon-Schloesser
@Watchmaker_Gereon-Schloesser 10 ай бұрын
@@danielneuenschwander7381 Thank you for sharing your experiences. I'm a clock and watchmaker (born 1. march 1989, 2006 to 2009 watchmakerschool in Hamburg, north Germany, worked 1 year 2014 in the repairs department of Audemars-Piguet, Switzerland) If it's allowed to say - I think NC / CNC started the decline of our trades. Computers are making people lazy and stupid ESPECIALLY the smartphone (I call them smarties fans or german: smarties-fön. Fön = fan. German for telephon is written telefon...) Today, even 2006 to 2009 during my apprenticeship in Hamburg, there a nearly NO one who are able to grind simple chisels EVEN with a high class grinder with scales... (like the Deckel ones). Terrifiying. CNC machinists are also lost if you ask for angles of an good HSS chisel to work on silversteel for a normal lathe... I think we must become humans again and go back to the technics of 1955 with more refinement. Cordial greetings! Géréon (I'm living now in the frenchspeaking area of switzerland, lake geneva, the side where the river "Rhône" enters the lake... Independant watchmaker, but more into fine scale modell building and tin plate toys. watches are ~"boring" xD and the customers are too arrogant)
@stratostatic
@stratostatic 10 ай бұрын
Machines were run off paper punch tape, that were created on a teletype machine. Typed in from the programer's notes. No stored memory in those machines. (the 'C' (computer) in CNC)
@1978garfield
@1978garfield 10 ай бұрын
@@stratostatic Thanks! I had actually seen footage of those machines. I didn't know if there was a box full of vacuum tubes the size of 2 side by side refrigerators someplace that was the computer. Good to learn it was analog.
@gilzor9376
@gilzor9376 11 ай бұрын
My father was a mechanical engineer who designed machinery that produced the first flexible circuits back in the late 60's 70's. So many nights at the dinner table I would hear the conversations between him and my mother about his day at work, which included many stories of the miracles the local tool and die shops would perform to get his machines into production. You could tell he had so much respect for those guys, he always talked highly of them.
@1978garfield
@1978garfield 11 ай бұрын
He wasn't the guy that made the flexible printed circuits Ford used in the 70's was he? If so I want to ask him why the left turn signal on my 76 F100 glowed anytime the headlights were on.
@gilzor9376
@gilzor9376 11 ай бұрын
@@1978garfield . . lol . . . no, he designed the machines that manufactured the hard boards and flexible circuits that other companies purchased to produce their circuit designs. AT&T used to buy a lot of his machines to produce their circuitry.
@Spawn-td8bf
@Spawn-td8bf 2 ай бұрын
Back in 1980 I got my hand severely injured in a small punch press. The safety mechanism failed. Without getting into unpleasant detail, it did give Shands Teaching Institute at USF to use my hand as the first one to give them the opportunity to perfect a procedure. As such my hand is in their orthopedic text book. It has helped future patients. Thank you for posting what the American Dream used to look like.
@shadovanish7435
@shadovanish7435 10 ай бұрын
As someone who has had some amature metal working experience, I realized years ago that tool & die makers are incredibly talented in their abilities to create incredibly precise dies that result in perfectly formed stampings; so precise, that the stampings can be used to check the straightness & accuracy of other parts.
@flipflopsguy8868
@flipflopsguy8868 11 ай бұрын
My father served in the navy during the Korean war and upon discharge went to L.A. Trade Tech for Tool and Die making on the G.I.Bill after he got his first job at L.A. Die Casting and because of both his training and leadership skills climbed the ladder and became a shop foreman and then Manager at the machining and assembly division, he put in fifty years until illness caused him to retire.
@je862
@je862 9 ай бұрын
Respect!
@cetocoquinto4704
@cetocoquinto4704 11 ай бұрын
If americans could come back with these types of production like in the film house appliances it will easily beat china. I remember those old electric fans they are build like tanks.
@douglasharley2440
@douglasharley2440 11 ай бұрын
the problem is, those fans cost a week's pay for most people. people actually want cheap stuff, not good stuff...we live in the age of the "consumer", not the citizen. 😔
@lilblackduc7312
@lilblackduc7312 11 ай бұрын
I see friends who stay broke with the mentality: "buy cheep, then replace it with another cheep one every year".💸💸.@@douglasharley2440
@TheTreegodfather
@TheTreegodfather 11 ай бұрын
Buy American; the job it saves will be your own.
@robertheymann5906
@robertheymann5906 10 ай бұрын
​@douglasharley2440 You're absolutely correct, modern consumers just want new things regardless of quality because they want the next new model or version as soon as it's available. Cultural pride in manufacturing is long gone
@Watchmaker_Gereon-Schloesser
@Watchmaker_Gereon-Schloesser 10 ай бұрын
@@douglasharley2440 you nailed it down! QUALITY. The reason why my old home country (I'm living now in switzerland, lake geneva, francophone area of CH) Germany has survived so well WAS (past term) that we became the chinese of europe. High quality in cheap prices. Well put aside HQ, neither for chinese nor TODAY german made stuff. Since Merkel it's a dying country. Please forgive me but we are still under occcupaition of the US-Military so likely germany is the 51th. state of the USA... (please go - same for other countries your goverment messes around) Now under the leftist parties (greens and the SPD /communist party) it's over. True words from UK/Thatcher: The EU is going to work as long the germans are paying for it (black mail wise) SO now the EU is close to collapse NO MORE MONEY from Germoney... End. Cordial greetings form a north german (Hannover, Hamburg, Kiel) clock and watchmaker - Géréon
@MichaelLee-em4le
@MichaelLee-em4le 11 ай бұрын
12:03 Starrett Last Word indicator. They still make them.
@66meikou
@66meikou 10 ай бұрын
My Dad emigrated to the US with my mum in '65. He got a job as a tool and die designer for GM. I popped out in 66 so I missed England winning the world cup. I was living in the US and doing high school in the early 80"s There were no apprenticeships to be found. We we're going to move back to the UK and my dad's mate said about apprenticeships at Rolls Royce but by the time I got back, they had dried up. I ended up doing architecture but the more I see manufacturing videos, the more I think I missed my calling. I like doing things with my hands. When I first got into architecture it was all hand draughting but then came the computer and I've been driving a mouse ever since.
@je862
@je862 9 ай бұрын
I"m your age.....it's never too late to start, if you have the resources.
@ChrisPBacon-vk7sj
@ChrisPBacon-vk7sj 4 ай бұрын
HA! I LONG for the days of mylars, sepias, ammonia and a 30' layout on a wall with people looking and pointing to details to a group instead of looking at a small (Chinese) monitor.
@ralphaverill2001
@ralphaverill2001 5 ай бұрын
In those days, tool and die making and all the other industrial and construction trades training began in junior high school with mandatory wood and metal shop classes for boys. Industrial drawing was also part of the curricula. My 7th & 8th grade wood and metal shop classes, Mr. Bulecca and Mr. Edge, at Barron Ave. Jr. High School in Woodbridge, NJ in 1964 & 1965 were the best times in my school career.
@mikekleiner3741
@mikekleiner3741 11 ай бұрын
This is timely given Destin's, from Smarter Every Day, video on this. Really cool.
@rickintexas1584
@rickintexas1584 10 ай бұрын
I’m a Mechanical Engineer. I graduated college in 86. I rely on men like this to produce the things that I and my team design. The men who produce these things are true craftsmen.
@jgarciascr5
@jgarciascr5 9 ай бұрын
Thanks !
@mikebrzostowski8183
@mikebrzostowski8183 Ай бұрын
I ran dies, mainly progressive, some draw dies. Presses from 90 ton to 600 ton, for a tool and die company for 18.5 years, the quality of workmanship of the die makers was so impressive to me. These men were awesome. Quality in every detail! It's an art, i enjoyed every minute running those dies! Thanks to all those that continue to provide such quality work!
@iteachtime
@iteachtime 15 күн бұрын
Another excellent film that might have been lost forever. Thank you Periscope Film!
@PeriscopeFilm
@PeriscopeFilm 15 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it and appreciate what we are doing !! Thanks so much
@HappyBonz4109
@HappyBonz4109 11 ай бұрын
Retired after over 40 years mostly in metal stamping. 4 years retired and I miss it.
@Semantsen62
@Semantsen62 4 ай бұрын
After being rigorously trained as a tool and die maker for four years and an experience of 34 years thereafter I can very well relate to every word in this video. Thanks and blessings from India. A proud Tool & Die Maker trained at an institute more than 50 years old - ‘Tata Motors Training Division’ ❤❤
@Gregorybridgewater
@Gregorybridgewater 2 ай бұрын
I was an apprentice when i was getting startes at 17yrs old. 49 now and have had a wonderful career as a machinist. Ive done things such as tool grinding and making, manual mills of all sizes, manual lathes of all sizes, cnc lathe and mills, programming and supervisory positions. Love it, i like going to work every day!
@sabelgroupari
@sabelgroupari Ай бұрын
Inspiring generations later. Thank you so much!
@DeWoodyard
@DeWoodyard 2 ай бұрын
I spent much of my career marketing the tools and materials for Southwest US style jewelry. Much of what was needed in any given piece of personal adornment could be had, at one time, from items produced in factories. My company's highest-paid (hourly) person was a tool-and-die maker. He drew plans out on the white paper bag left over from his order at a Blake's Lotaburger. Chalk on the concrete floor was another medium for his great art. He truly lived in the real world and in the moment. Miss you, Jake!!!
@wacojones8062
@wacojones8062 11 ай бұрын
My dad learn the trade at Illinois Institute of Technolgy after World War II on the GI bill much of his training was in secret government projects. The only two he would talk about was what became the M39 Auto cannon used in the F100 Super Sabre and F5 Freedom fighter. The other project was a boosted rocket gun project for the F89 scorpion that lost out to the Mk 4 Folding-Fin Aerial Rocket due to being too accurate. It could put a burst into one meter at 1,000 Yards. After IIT he found work at Anchor coupling company making compression dies to attach coupling to hoses and later worked in the coupling prototype shop. All that with only upper half vision field in his left eye. He lost is right eye at age 12.
@flipflopsguy8868
@flipflopsguy8868 11 ай бұрын
👍
@braised44
@braised44 11 ай бұрын
General Electric apprentice1971-1974. Provided a good career for35 years. Enjoyed making things with my hands.
@kirstenspencer3630
@kirstenspencer3630 10 ай бұрын
Michael Moore explained the then development of the " rust belt " and deindustrialization of the North East auto manufactures. My husband showed me all manner of equipment being shipped to the far east to manufacture thing's to be sold to us and the world. Good for them ( mostly ) and abilities to make things non existent in the usa and few places to learn trades. Michael Moore warned us over 25 years ago. We made our collective beds.....
@tweygant
@tweygant 11 ай бұрын
Don’t fret too much, there’s still lots of this kind of work going on here in the United States. As things are destabilizing in Asia politics a lot of companies are reshoring their production back here
@ronaldjohnson1474
@ronaldjohnson1474 10 ай бұрын
You should rethink your statement. Look at the fiasco of trying to bring manufacturing for Craftsman back to the US.
@yz250a
@yz250a 10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, this is not true.
@sylviam6535
@sylviam6535 10 ай бұрын
They’ll just move that manufacturing to another low cost country. It will not return to the West, unless it’s a high end product.
@TheSalMaris
@TheSalMaris 10 ай бұрын
Love these old documentaries. I grew up with them in class rooms in 50s and 60s. America was a very different place in those times. Thank you for this.
@65gtotrips
@65gtotrips 11 ай бұрын
We reside not too far from The Williamson Free School of Mechanical Trades in Media, Pennsylvania where they’ve cranked out some of the best machinists for over a century !
@robc2536
@robc2536 10 ай бұрын
I graduated from Williamson (machine shop) in 1982. That education has opened many door for me over the years.
@pinetree9343
@pinetree9343 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for another great video rescue As stated, America's strength has been it's ability to take raw materials and build useful things from it. We shipped all these jobs overseas. Why? Because of greed , we are no longer the strong country we used to be.
@hydrogreen1111
@hydrogreen1111 10 ай бұрын
I was one of the last people to meet with William Grede who was the head of Grede Foundry located in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. His wife and daughter were with me when I met him in his private suite at a nursing home located in Brookfield, Wisconsin. It was a Friday afternoon when we went to see Mr. Grede. He died the following Sunday afternoon in June, 1989. When I attended his funeral there were roughly 3,000 people who were there in Wauwatosa in attendance. It was an impressive funeral and I was honored to be there. America at its finest. As we spoke that Friday afternoon, Mr. Grede was confined to a wheelchair and was tapping his cane on the foot pedestal of the wheelchair. He lost his ability to speak but it looked as though he was indicating the wheelchair could have been made better. Remarkable. All the way to the end.
@je862
@je862 9 ай бұрын
You were an employee of the nursing home? Sounds like Mr Grede was a great guy! Is the foundry still in business?
@hydrogreen1111
@hydrogreen1111 9 ай бұрын
@@je862 No, I wasn't an employee of the nursing home. Because of my related work I was invited by his daughter to see Mr. Grede. America does not produce men like this anymore.
@hydrogreen1111
@hydrogreen1111 9 ай бұрын
@@je862 No, I wasn't an employee of the nursing home. Because of my related work I was invited by his daughter to see Mr. Grede. America does not produce men like this anymore. Grede Foundaries is still in business but they have diversified obviously.
@je862
@je862 9 ай бұрын
@@hydrogreen1111 Gosh I sure miss folks of that generation. Thanks for your reply.
@hydrogreen1111
@hydrogreen1111 9 ай бұрын
@@je862 You're welcome. These men of that caliber are non-existent. America is not producing men like this anymore. When I met William Grede he was in his wheelchair and he was tapping the foot rest with his cane. Because of his age and health condition he lost his speech but his wife and daughter told me he was trying to convey to us how to make the wheelchair foot rest better.
@carbidegrd1
@carbidegrd1 11 ай бұрын
I was trained by WW2 vets, brilliant guys. CNC seriously dumbed down the trade. I have a few years left, can't wait to get out.
@olivieraleman
@olivieraleman 10 ай бұрын
Same here, steelworker Union
@Watchmaker_Gereon-Schloesser
@Watchmaker_Gereon-Schloesser 10 ай бұрын
computers make people stupid and lazy... a lot of the work show here is lost knowlegde. Today a CNC guy can't grind a simply chisel even with a pricise tool grinder (with scales so no free hand) cordial greetings from a north german (Hannover, Hamburg, Kiel) independant clock and watchmaker, living now close to the lake geneva, french speaking switzerland.
@stratostatic
@stratostatic 10 ай бұрын
I was trained by an old German machinist that was there when the allies were bombing the hell out of Germany's manufacturing plants. He had some interesting stores... He sure put me on track to become a first rate machinist.
@user-mp8ii3ls9d
@user-mp8ii3ls9d 10 ай бұрын
I'm a machinist in a job shop, mostly manual but run an old ProtoTrak milling machine here and there. C'mon I know what you're saying but CNC has a lot of pros, undeniably so. Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. Ideally machinists should know all there is to know & there's a lot to learn, a great machinist will pursue a well rounded education, toolmakers included. These days in the US that's how you get paid, and boy is it a criminally underpaid trade. That being said, if you want to avoid CNC then go right ahead, someone else will learn and get paid more than you. And make no mistake, I am not referring to CNC operators.
@philvaclavik6890
@philvaclavik6890 10 ай бұрын
My uncle was a tool and die maker at US Steel’s Gary Works
@tommyboy71
@tommyboy71 10 ай бұрын
Grew up in Wisconsin, close to Milwaukee, the machine shop of the world.
@89volvowithlazers
@89volvowithlazers 10 ай бұрын
I worked in a foundry moving cast out of these huge ovens. If u got burned it just seared u immediate cooking. Gloves, steel toes boots, eyewear and a helmet. Nothing but your flannel shirt over a long underwear top in the summer. Being 19 in college doing this in the summer u learn to crush future semesters fer sure😮
@Watchmaker_Gereon-Schloesser
@Watchmaker_Gereon-Schloesser 10 ай бұрын
Ray Leno said: "you recognise a true steam car guy with burned/lost eye browns" remembered me of your commmet ! Thanks! xD You has been (still are?) a hot guy!
@danielrogers6090
@danielrogers6090 11 ай бұрын
I am currently a tool and die maker and love my trade and would recommend it to anybody 😊
@urbanurchin5930
@urbanurchin5930 10 ай бұрын
Too be honest - - I don't think young people of today have the patience or attention spans needed to do this precision work. Many seem to be pre-occupied with instant gratification or the attitude of "let a machine do it".
@cjcarver6290
@cjcarver6290 2 ай бұрын
My dad was a tool & die repairman at Delco Products in Kettering, Ohio. Most of my mom's side of the family (Stites) also worked for GM or other tool shop in the Dayton area.
@grahamrowe6278
@grahamrowe6278 2 ай бұрын
Two and a half decades after this film I became an apprentice with the British division of an Michigan machine tool company and working to the standards illustrated, if not perhaps higher again with the introduction some electronic inspection equipment. The standard was high in the approach and the motivation of the people. Today, it is rare to find, though we need such capability. It's hard for me to find a shop in my area that can work to an order of magnitude less tolerance than illustrated in the film. How do we manage? Well, I guess there are just enough... but this indicates that wealth is draining from our economies at grass roots level. I salute my colleagues of the past, both sides of the pond!
@zvotaisvfi8678
@zvotaisvfi8678 2 ай бұрын
wish we all still talked like this
@scottrackley4457
@scottrackley4457 Ай бұрын
30 years. Master. Last 12 years in design. When I started it was like this, good Masters that taught you up from down. Building dies from scratch. They don't even make you build a simple die from a print like they did me, "too difficult to ask of them after 4 years". I work in a place where 1/3 of the people in the shop are machinists, not tool & die.
@ckruberg
@ckruberg 11 ай бұрын
I grew up in my father’s toolmaking workshop. As an 8 year old I made my own Apollo rockets on the Colchester Student lathe. He never let me on the Cincinnati Bridgeport mill 😂
@flipflopsguy8868
@flipflopsguy8868 11 ай бұрын
👍🙂
@alro2434
@alro2434 10 ай бұрын
Cincinnati Bridgeport mill????
@user-mp8ii3ls9d
@user-mp8ii3ls9d 10 ай бұрын
@@alro2434 I assume they meant Cincinnati vertical mill
@mescko
@mescko 10 ай бұрын
@@user-mp8ii3ls9d There are guys who use the term Bridgeport as a generic term for a vertical mill.
@WyvernYT
@WyvernYT 10 ай бұрын
I wouldn't let an eight year old use one of the big boys either; those things are expensive.
@codydavis8043
@codydavis8043 10 ай бұрын
I run manuals in the fab shop i work at as well as welding/ fabricating i enjoy it. something about turning a peice of nothing into something is quite satisfying.
@jacktough
@jacktough Ай бұрын
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. Clarke This is magic to me
@chrisbarnes2823
@chrisbarnes2823 11 ай бұрын
I had to complete my Toolmaker apprenticeship before I could start my training as a engineer for Rolls Royce in the UK.
@tjlovesrachel
@tjlovesrachel 11 ай бұрын
See now that’s sick… bc as an engineer you shouldn’t be able to design anything without really being proficient and aware of how things are actually made
@user-mp8ii3ls9d
@user-mp8ii3ls9d 10 ай бұрын
it's an open secret that many machinists hate engineers for this very reason, unless those engineers were once machinists...@@tjlovesrachel
@WyvernYT
@WyvernYT 10 ай бұрын
@@user-mp8ii3ls9d It's the same in the military - most of the grunts' bitching about officers goes away when they're led by a mustang.
@jasonruetz2306
@jasonruetz2306 5 ай бұрын
I was a 3rd generation Toolmaker in my family. It was pretty cool. I worked in national defense, aerospace, medical/surgical instruments, forging, injection molding, progressive stamping dies, etc. I eventually became the 5 axis, voodoo Machinist that everyone came to for answers. 😆
@garylefevers
@garylefevers 5 ай бұрын
My birth father Kenneth Anderson was T and D maker for Ekco in Chicago.. I always wondered exactly what he did. Thank you for this. Miss you Dad Ken.
@garylefevers
@garylefevers 5 ай бұрын
Btw: i'm using my late husbands KZbin account. I am Teri Woolum LeFevers.
@Motoman313
@Motoman313 10 ай бұрын
I worked 8 years in the ford Dyno lab machine shop, learned so much. This video reminds me of lab so much
@je862
@je862 9 ай бұрын
What years did you work there?
@johnallen8538
@johnallen8538 2 ай бұрын
I built and repaired plastic molds for 20 yrs.The man that taught me was named Norman Zirges. r.i.p. Norman
@StonesAndSand
@StonesAndSand 11 ай бұрын
It's been a very good trade to me.
@62Cristoforo
@62Cristoforo Ай бұрын
My uncle served on board in the navy as a tool & die maker during the last world war. May it be the last. He spent years criss-crossing the freezing North Atlantic as an ERA (Engine Room Artificer). Needless to say he was well trained for a good paying job after the war.
@joeykimball5705
@joeykimball5705 10 ай бұрын
The building i work in was formerly a tool and die company my boss' father owned. We have quite a few real old machines they used. Now we fix molds(among other things) with precision welding done under a microscope.
@rascalferret
@rascalferret 5 ай бұрын
High schools get gutted, rather than... I learned machining at 14yrs old. Completely hirable at graduation. I took an extra college course because I didn't want to be 'that guy'. CNC not invented. Math, measurements, prints and set up transferred to the table. Only one way. Thru Your personal competence on the job... Though I retired as pro arborist. (tree guy). lol
@americanmilitiaman88
@americanmilitiaman88 11 ай бұрын
Nice to see PPE being more common place. I remember a WW1 era fim of people grinding bayonets with no eye pro at all
@user-fb6gk4pn1v
@user-fb6gk4pn1v 3 ай бұрын
I am from Russia, from St. Petersburg. I work on grinding machines. I was an apprentice to a craftsman who was over 75 years old, more than 55 of which he worked in the manufacture of tools and dies. He gave me his knowledge and experience. That's why I enjoyed watching this perfectly shot movie. Thanks!
@billsnyder7392
@billsnyder7392 2 ай бұрын
I worked at a forge shop for six years I was an inspector of blank forgings and also laid out plaster casting of parts to be forged
@nosteponsnek-ic5ph
@nosteponsnek-ic5ph 4 ай бұрын
I remember seeing either this or a simmilar short film on tool and die when i was in middle school. 35 years old, and coming up on 14 years in the trade now.
@Hitman-ds1ei
@Hitman-ds1ei 2 ай бұрын
Industry will never be equal this ever again no matter what politicians may say, it may if lucky raise to some resemblance but not to these heights
@wacojones8062
@wacojones8062 11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@PeriscopeFilm
@PeriscopeFilm 11 ай бұрын
Thanks so much. Gifts like this help us preserve and present more rare films.
@danhillman4523
@danhillman4523 10 ай бұрын
I can't even name the projects I worked on but I do remember the Abrams, some Boeing and the awesome Dodge Viper. Even a plastic casket and one of the original wavy slides for kids.
@greglivo
@greglivo 11 ай бұрын
Apparently moving from an apprentice to a journeyman involves the addition of a necktie.
@jondrew55
@jondrew55 11 ай бұрын
I know this place. My dad used to work for Beecher Tool & Die
@Watchmaker_Gereon-Schloesser
@Watchmaker_Gereon-Schloesser 10 ай бұрын
great info. thanks!
@wolfhawg
@wolfhawg 11 ай бұрын
Those were the days.
@Watchmaker_Gereon-Schloesser
@Watchmaker_Gereon-Schloesser 10 ай бұрын
YES - much more human friendly. Techs with brain AND heart and golden HANDS. Let's try that work a computer nerd... 0 1 00000 1 00000000 ZERO
@Toramt
@Toramt 10 ай бұрын
3:29 "Your job is to push this metal into this press, exactly in time with its cycle. No stopping." Amazing people had the patience for that.
@Klaatu-ij9uz
@Klaatu-ij9uz 10 ай бұрын
GREAT episode!
@xtianrondow3881
@xtianrondow3881 11 ай бұрын
Awesome!👌🏻
@melchristian8876
@melchristian8876 11 ай бұрын
👍👍
@robertpearson8546
@robertpearson8546 Ай бұрын
Excellent. I have seen many videos about mass production. They all assume that the machines that do the manufacturing appear magically. Designing those machines is orders or magnitude more complex than making the product. I once worked for a company that made switches. They once lost the design of the cam for their 16 A switch. I took more than 6 months to redesign the cam. Then they had to make the die for the cam. Then they could resume manufacturing. Die design is one task. Creating CNC programs is another. Designing the manufacturing machines is a much more difficult task.
@stevieg2755
@stevieg2755 2 ай бұрын
I remember working as a mold maker competing against offshore bidders,their bids were lower than what we could pay for materials,that was late eighties,into the 90s
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