STANDING BY TO DRINK SURVIVALIST TEARS. In all seriousness though, make your own tier list here: tiermaker.com/create/kf2-perks-1428576
@thesleepypiggy2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame, they could have made the martial artists feel surgical and calculated like the kf1 berserker instead of a class that I think is antithetical to kf's specialization nature.
@helmetmcbarin4 ай бұрын
Ive seen alot of people rank survivalist way too high its not good at anything every other role does better than it once they specialise into something people who go for survalist roles are often ones who dont like teamwork or are New to the game same with fire bug though there are a few good fire Bug players the only perks that are always reliable no matter the kind of player are support, swat, survivalist (even though its not a good perk) and Berserker.
@synchronium242 жыл бұрын
2:43 Berserker Rage now immobilizes ZEDs instead of causing them to flee. One of the good changes they made before over-nerfing the class.
@peterpanda42962 жыл бұрын
zerk needed nerf lol, back then half the team always was zerks, and zerks could easily do entire game by their on on hell on earth
@synchronium242 жыл бұрын
@@peterpanda4296 "zerk needed nerf lol" I agree, but I do think it was an over-nerf. Parry was super OP and I agree with changing it. I think the Skirmisher skill and 'zerker's passive resistance were fine before nerfs.
@JiboiaJin Жыл бұрын
I’d take the Zerk pre nerf over that change tbh. HoE is not even viable without a dedicated medic constantly healing you. Dreadnaught is a staple now which is lame because the extra movement speed was a lot of fun. Something I think that class should just passively have.
@synchronium24 Жыл бұрын
@@JiboiaJin "HoE is not even viable without a dedicated medic constantly healing you." Do people still play medic on HoE with the recent nerfs to both of its level 5 skills?
@JiboiaJin Жыл бұрын
@@synchronium24 I’m a console player so we haven’t received those nerfs yet. I’m assuming yes as long as you still receive the healing from healing other players which triggers the buffs. It’s still probably the best class even after that nerf.
@linuxerohim17582 жыл бұрын
I don't care about the list, I'm just glad you're talking about kf2 again. Much love ❤️❤️. Watch you since pd2 days and still not regret till this day.
@joly4572 жыл бұрын
Dude same, theres multiple new weapons and maps and Im lost without his guidance 😅
@Athaeme Жыл бұрын
I don’t care about this comment I’m just glad it exists 😍
@BumNanner4512 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to point out that the 2021 Xmas update switched controller aim assist/lock-on from aiming to ZED chests to aiming to ZED heads. I played with it off before but it's like playing GTA with how aggressive the lock-on is. Makes every perk, but precision perks, Sharp especially, much easier to play. If you're on console, Sharp is EASY S-Tier perk now, when it used to be one of the least played perks on console, now it's easy mode, even in a chaos pub.
@leonwagner21982 жыл бұрын
It was always S tier even on console.its just now that people who want to cheat the game can use it too. Nobody thats actually good uses aim assist. Especially because the head hitboxes are already huge and act like a magnet. Like what else do you need?An auto compelete wave button?
@BumNanner4512 жыл бұрын
@@leonwagner2198 I agree that Sharp has always been good, even on console, but aim is only one aspect of what makes a good player. Positioning and teamwork will always be important in Killing Floor. Plus, it's a pure co-op game, (I mean vs does exist but we both know NO ONE plays it.), so what if someone is having the game essentially aim for them? It just means random pubs will be less horrendous to play in. Not to mention the boost to accessibility for anyone who simply does not have the means to aim well, be it through age or some sort of disability. No need to belittle people for using a feature of the games controls. So maybe get off your high horse there buddy?
@leonwagner21982 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your well thought out answer.your point about positioning is very true. Even with auto aim most new people would have a hard time on Hell on earth for example. Personally i think aiming is still one of the most satisfying things in kf2 and i wouldnt want to throw it out the window.Especially since its already very „generous“both on pc and console.But like you said its coop so its not that bad.If people can enjoy the game more now thats great for them. Have a good one!
@bigjalapeno63072 жыл бұрын
The auto aim assist is super beneficial and can be a bit simple but doesn’t make it any easier. And it really depends on where your hip fire hitbox is pointing because if it’s anywhere below the neck of a zed well then you’ll shoot it’s body but if your hit box is pointing at the head you’ll lock onto the head.
@knightslayer61612 жыл бұрын
If you’re running precision perks just hipfire at the respective ranges for the gun you’re using. Aiming is bad in general unless you got a scope or your perk has recoil control. Hipfire is pretty effective in this game tho because you aren’t slowed by ADS penalties.
@TacoMeetMouth2 жыл бұрын
Medic is definitely the best perk hands down. Buy the assault rifle and the incision and you have trash clear, big zed clear, and boss dps. Plus medic has massive move speed so you outrun everything, you get increased weapon damage, and you can non stop heal yourself and teammates. I think everyone forgets that KF2 has 100% hip fire accuracy, so no need to ADS with any gun, including incision.
@milansta96872 жыл бұрын
Wtf are you talking about kf2 has no 100% hip fire accuracy?
@crypticelsie2 жыл бұрын
For me, survivalist isn't a perk you use when playing with others. It isn't a team oriented perk. For me it feel like it was designed as a perk you use when playing solo. It fills every role without leaning to hard in one direction. Along with that, I believe it's a good introduction perk for new players cause it benefits from all weapon types. Hands down I believe it to be the best perk to use solo. Now does it issues? Yes, the skills that can be chosen need to be reworked, cause most of them just kinda suck. Like melee expert is neat, but the medic training is better. Spontaneous zed-plosion is a better option then make things go boom since it is always applicable compared to lower explosive resistance.
@noahboat5802 жыл бұрын
as someone who thinks survivalist is the best, i disagree that zed-plosion is the better option. sometimes having that explosive increase is useful with guns like seal squeal and HRG tommy. the whole problem with survivalist streamlines survivalist players to use high DPS crowdpleasers, at least i do. maybe survivalist will get a rework on the perks, we'll just have to see whats up with season 2
@JiboiaJin Жыл бұрын
They can cause Zed splosions very often which is very useful, also they can use healing grenades making them a solid off medic. Also, depending on what classes the team has, the survivalist can build its perks to meet the needs the team is lacking.
@mattAVFC442 жыл бұрын
I use the survivalist as a beta version of the medic. I love being a medic and keeping the team alive but the gun play can get so repetitive and stale. So I put on the medic buff as survivalist and use any medic gun and regular gun I feel like that day. I know it’s not the most viable perk just a fun one to use more of the games weapons with
@hemlockgaming27482 жыл бұрын
I think field medic is S tier, field medic can clutch up when everyone is dead and the movement is amazing
@theodorek26732 жыл бұрын
I just came back from a 2year+ break from the game and berserker just doesnt feel the same anymore, a good sniper is nuts thou
@Mr_Scrake2 жыл бұрын
As someone who dedicated a lot of hours into finding good builds and mastering survivalist I would argue that he isnt the weakest perk. Surely he wont ever be as effective as some dedicated perks but with right knowledge, skills setup and positioning he is the force to reckoned with. Although I can argee that majority of survivalist players play like "random bs goes brrr" which would justify its placement.
@Reposaaren_Samurai2 жыл бұрын
but what is the peak surv (; you are the peak, the 10
@DrumCoversFromHell2 жыл бұрын
Surv has heavy armor from level 0 and makes it the best starting perk in the game at 0. You can literally survive hoe solo
@Re3Ns2 жыл бұрын
Would you mind sharing your survivalist builds? I'm learning to play survivalist at the moment and really struggling with killing things.
@Zadeon2 жыл бұрын
The "pick one of two skills per 5 levels" system doesn't work well for survivalist. Barely any options for a "Build-a-class" class. Maybe it could be a bit more viable if there were more options to choose from. What if survivalist got 4 skills per every 5 levels and you could pick two? I really wish you could pick which grenade you get as survivalist separate from its skills.
@Davtwan2 жыл бұрын
I agree on Survivalist, and this is from someone that uses them a lot. They’re meant to either fill vital gaps in team compensation or be a tanky emergency medic for a solid team. Unfortunately, this means Survivalists are inherently moderate in strength to make up for the fact they have a lot of flexibility. One thing is for sure though, they have the most fun loadout combinations thanks to their skill tree. They’re also really hard to kill no matter what they choose to bring.
@fitisdead80292 жыл бұрын
I wish survivalist was a customisable perk where u choose what stats u want then get like, 3 perks from other classes. Customisation is fun.
@tham3s242 жыл бұрын
that would make survivalist absurdly op.
@milo72852 жыл бұрын
I used to watch your perk guides years ago when I first got into Kf2. I took a 2 year break or so and just got back into a few days ago so it feels like a huge coincidence that you've just made a video on it after some inactivity. Much love, I really enjoy your videos
@coffee00932 жыл бұрын
Survivalist needs it's level 5 perk to be 'faster reloads' or '50% larger mags' I think it would be way more compelling of a choice. idk I think it earns C tier, it's not the best and can be filled by a better perk but you can still win games on 6p HoE with survivalists
@Enger12 жыл бұрын
Yeah agree you cant really Use half of the weapons as this Perk all Swat and Commando weapons need alot of ammo / bigger mag
@solairecat13842 жыл бұрын
I’m glad to see you upload videos again I have missed your content man hope you’re doing all right
@hoodie13552 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate knowing he acknowledges medic being argued for essential, with that in mind here’s my reasoning as to why I think it should be placed in that ranking. I do admit that due to the guns, most perks do have healing abilities, especially if someone plays a survivalist with healing grenades, but with that in mind I don’t think it’s 100% accurate to make that a point against it because it can’t fully compare to the healing a medic does and will do. Not only do medics heal for a lot more but with the addition of buffs and the skill that heals medic when they heal teammates, it gives them more and more reason to heal and increased survivability for both medics and everyone they heal. While I admit this last point is speculation and I don’t doubt that someone who makes a build utilizing medic weapons with their non medic perks would be a good medic for their teammates, just from personal experience of playing with people with non-medic perks, including when there’s no medic, people with perks such as support will usually prioritize killing zeds over chasing down their low health teammates to heal them, something a medic would always be doing. Given I find no fault in it, if anything it makes my job as a medic much easier when a perk built to take down scrakes and fleshpounds with ease are doing that instead of trying to heal people and leaving them to chase perks less equipped to deal with them. But just to add to my point, I don’t fully discredit the fact that other perks are able to heal but just because they can doesn’t mean they will
@YanWindFW2 жыл бұрын
While I agree in general, I often see people ignoring Swat's tankiness and utility towards big zeds, and Survivalist's support. Swat wont be as good as commando since it cant zed extend, but it can be a solid trash cleaning wall. Survivalists can be anywhere decently. Sure, in a well coordinated group and all it can fall short, but on pubs, I often find myself having to switch gears and help the big zed killer who got overrun with quarter pounds, or a siren making hell on a demo.
@asleep54222 жыл бұрын
You're trying to be optimistic, but the reality of KF2 is pretty straightforward. Perks with movement speed and damage/utility are far better than those that lack it. I judge every perk off of suicidal and HoE. Gunslinger is the strongest perk in the game, and it's really ot close. Before zerker got eviscerated, it was a debate between them. There's just no contest on the top 3 perks though. Gunslinger, medic, sharpshooter in that order. The middle 3 I'd say are commando, support, zerker. Zed time perks are crazy, and zerker's zed time was changed so enemies are stunned instead of fleeing. Free ammo is incredible for the team economy. The last 3 are firebug, demo, swat. Firebug is probably my favorite perk, but most people that play it are terrible. It can be right at or above commando imo. Demo is just screen vomit, and swat is trying to be a commando-zerker hybrid. Survivalist has no identity. Easily worst perk ever, period.
@MILDMONSTER1234 Жыл бұрын
Lol at support and sharpshooter
@Re3Ns2 жыл бұрын
As a firebug main, I prefer Dragonsbreath + Microwave gun build. Dragonsbreath has tremendous ground fire power, almost like a molotov thrower. It also gives you better range, oneshots sirens,husks,gorefasts and gorefiends at medium/close range, and can output massive damage during zed time thanks to pyromaniac ability. The Microwave gun is the best crowd control weapon in the game in my opinion. It can save a surrounded teammate, block a doorway with stunned zed, delay and knock back fleshpounds, stun scrakes, disrupt attacks of edars, sirens, husks and bloats. Microwave gun shreds through groups of quarterpounds. It's good on some bosses too. Hans hates microwave groundfire, and will stumble all the time. King Fleshpound can never reach you even in raged state as long as you have ammo. You can save yourself and teammates from Matriarch's grasp by pushing her away. There are so many things you can do with the microwave gun! Microwave gun is not good for every boss though. Actually for most bosses you'd be better off with helios + husk cannon (flamethrower for Abomination), except King Fleshpound, and maybe matriarch if you don't have a strong team. I do agree that firebug makes life much harder for precision perks, and a good firebug needs trigger discipline. Firebug's is most compatible with Demo, but also works well with Medic and Support.
@hakeemshabazz32072 жыл бұрын
Helios and thermite? I can carry both?🤔🤔🤔
@Re3Ns2 жыл бұрын
@@hakeemshabazz3207 Sorry was mean to say Husk Cannon
@mlkvblendzior2 жыл бұрын
It all depends on your play style and every perk has it's place. For example Commando in solo is IMO tier B at best due to limited capability to handle big game. However the same Commando will synergize extremely well with decent Sharpshooter - Commando will provide room for Sharpshooter, while Sharpshooter will handle Scrakes and Fleshpounds, so perk flaws are nullified. Also frequent zed time + zed time extention works like a charm. About Survivalist... Again - it all depends. Survivalist was the first class, with which I was capable to consistently beat solo HoE. High tankines, decent damage output, versatility and healing capabilites - sounds like fun. IMO perk list should be split in two at least - one for solo play, one for team play.
@malidite2 жыл бұрын
Honestly love Survivalist, i play as big zed killer/stunner/boss melter. I see people taking about how they'd rework him and personally i think the tier two is fine. Id change left to stronger healing aswell as bigger mags and right to the same as is, just more melee damage to make it worth choosing over left. Maybe add explosion damage to make things go boom because zed-plosion is just so good
@yunxuanxu99892 жыл бұрын
Firebug with Incendiary M16 and Helios Rifle feels more like commando than commando Helios Rifle kills big zeds no problem and heatwave can push back raging fleshpound Commando has to aim for the head while dealing with Fn Fal's sporadic recoil
@EcchiRevenge2 жыл бұрын
This. Commando really got shafted with minigun since it's so bad for the weight.
@zakillah97022 жыл бұрын
But 401 is a great trash killer and FAL kills a FP faster then a Helios. You need headshots with FB, too, if you want to kill a FP. Heat Wave is very good, but not nearly as good as Zed time extensions.
@yunxuanxu99892 жыл бұрын
@@zakillah9702 Kinda pointless to compare medic weapon with firebug, even SWAT can't outkill fire in terms of horde cleaning. Always optimal to go for headshot, and Helios has way less recoil and 40 rounds magzine by default, not to mention fleshpound is weak to microwave damage. Fn fal is satisfying when successfully doing takedown but recoil is tough to tame, also 20 rounds by default definitely raises the difficulty. Heatwave is more of comparison with tenacious in the case of surviving. If you ask me I want skills that prevent me from getting hit. I am happy to see teammate extending zedtime as firebug/SWAT. But in normal pub games? I much prefer perks that are self-sufficient and have weapons that perform consistantly. Conclusion: minigun sucks
@zakillah97022 жыл бұрын
@@yunxuanxu9989 The 401 is a Commando weapon, too. FAL does rifle damage, does 75% vs FPs. Helios does 80% vs FPs, big deal. You are suppsed to take high cap mags, which gives a 30 round mag. I prefer to play as a team. Zed time extensions are the most powerful team utility by a landslide. Commando can easily hold a spot all on its own. Yes, Minigun sucks.
@yunxuanxu99892 жыл бұрын
@@zakillah9702 Indeed, and HMTech weapons trade damage for extra utility.
@jursh39362 жыл бұрын
Maybe survivalist should have three perk skill lines. To help tune it in to a couple perks.
@ToastyHaymaker2 жыл бұрын
I'm still annoyed they decided to nerf Berzerker's durability, if I was to be facetious I'd say people got upset Zerks were always the last one standing. I'll never forgive tripwire for scrapping the Martial Artist perk in exchange for survivalist. It would have been amazing to have a DPS vs Tank dynamic between the two.
@Amoogus2 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest as a berserker main I'm usually the first to die because I'm tanking the boss lol. The berserker perk just seems impossible to use past hard difficulty unless you're level 25 personally.
@bigjalapeno63072 жыл бұрын
I feel like the survivalist fills in the gaps in a different context as in skill wise. Depending on how you handle zeds with your weapons the perk really comes down to being a personal favourite one that isn’t really there for beneficial perks but is there for the clutch I think it’s the noobs yellow brick road. To sum it up i feel like the survivalist perk is a gun nut choice. Edit: also the perks it hands out give it flexibility on filling in team gaps like you mentioned and also it can’t be that useless if the stim needle regenerates faster than every single Perk besides the medic.
@thetute592 жыл бұрын
I agree with medic not being S-Tier in US lobbies. On EU servers however not having a compenent medic is usually a teamwipe (at least on HoE)^^
@AestheticShrine2 жыл бұрын
He returns, a blessing, truly.
@nagashtheundyingking44042 жыл бұрын
field medic is my absolute favorite class i get to be helpful by keeping my friends alive aswell as shooting fools always big fan of high action supports
@666fox_2 жыл бұрын
The greatest KF2 CC is back, welcome back.
@Domukaru2 жыл бұрын
I personally run Survivalist with RPG & Whatever the Ice ShotgunAxe is called with extra weight for full upgrades. Scrake murderer and flesh pound stopper & solo trash cleaner. Maybe it's just the specific weapons that make it very good since the shotgun gives 75% melee damage + the high mobility and attack speed, but I haven't used much else with it. Always topping out in the damage and big baddies department.
@RetroactiveFort Жыл бұрын
Survivalist is my favorite perk since it combines a lot of great skills from other perks, allows me to run fast while using melee weapons (great when situations get sticky), global damage resistance, heavy armor, several neat survivalist weapons, ability to stun any zed during zed time and the ability to use most weapons effectively, including fast reload with multiple perk weapons (depending on what weapons I use, I just switch which reload perk I use). The 10% damage loss is rarely an issue as I kill zeds quickly anyway. The only downside is the lack of headshot damage with pistols and recoil from rifles, but that's usually doable. The 20 carry weight instead of 15 also allows me to carry a primary weapon and another weapon such as a medic gun to heal teammates with. Not as effective as a medic of course, but the new medic missile for example packs quite the punch and heals the team almost fully with one attack. It's an acquired taste I suppose. Didn't care for the survivalist class myself either, but now it's great.
@d.f.73972 жыл бұрын
I feel like Survivalist is cool thanks to melee expert working with frost fang and blast brawlers. But aside some niche loadouts, yeah, it's a bit underwhelming. I still like playing survivalist for the sheer pleasure to beat the game with an underdog perk! :)
@ignisshadowflame10272 жыл бұрын
Easily the most underestimated perk.
@fabi97612 жыл бұрын
Its very nice to see a kf2 video after a year gap ^^
@JiboiaJin Жыл бұрын
If I had to make a tier list, it’d be S - Medic, Gun Slinger A - Support, Demolition, Swat, Survivalist B - Commando, Firebug, Sharpshooter C - Berserker I used to be a Berserker main and once thought it was the best class with medic, but my list is based on HOE.
@tomas30342 жыл бұрын
I love support, but these days ppls dont even take ammo/armor frome me :D thats kinda sad
@gooseyboygavin91432 жыл бұрын
IM GLAD YOURE UPLOADING AGAIN. MADE MY DAY
@qcfrgaming44182 жыл бұрын
as a main survivalist I'm so happy to be consider the black sheep
@JiboiaJin Жыл бұрын
Not for nothing, on HOE, I’m pretty sure most squads would take a medic as their 6th over a commando. Just my opinion. Best grenades, adds go to everyone very fast, can self heal so quickly, and yeah, I’d say it’s easily the best class in the game.
@plm65232 жыл бұрын
Always glad to see you come back, you make great content man. Wish you all the best with everything that might be going on and i hope that content spark will stay. Nobody wants to push themselves to do something they don't enjoy doing. (Might be talking absolute shit here that you can't relate to, but I know alot of content creators struggle with that)
@KitanoVPrO2 жыл бұрын
Support & Gunslinger 💪
@chrisiguess54312 жыл бұрын
For pure damage, you’d think Demo would win, and he does, but in certain situations, Gunslinger severely out-does Demo. I still stand by it, Gunslinger is still the best class, though I can see how in supporting he doesn’t bring much to the table besides killing things in quick succession and be killed just as fast. SWAT I’ve grown to admire over the years, though his weapons were weak, with the exceptions being the Kriss Gun and Bastion being needed additional weapons, he has pretty much a bigger, stronger but costly health bar, outranking Support in certain cases, though being below Commando for me. Medic still feels the same, unkillable, yet can’t kill anything that isn’t a Clot. Marksman I just see as a handicapped Gunslinger, and while he has the ranged advantage, he’ll be sticking close with the Demo. Commando is still amazing, still great weapons, Zed-Time advantages are still there, all around great class. Support used to be my favorite, and yes, is needed, but feels like he doesn’t do enough and steals ammo pickups whenever possible. Dragons Breath and AA-12 still shreds, though. I know there are some Firebug Mains in here, stay strong, someday you’ll show the world you’ll be viable. Demo tries to be extremely deadly, but fails to try and outdo things, with distance being his biggest enemy. Still, insane damage. To all Zerk Mains out there. “Parry this, you fucking casual.” I still hate Survivalist. My Tier List: 1. Gunslinger 2. Field Medic 3. Commando 4. SWAT 5. Support 6. Marksman 7. Firebug 8. Berserker 9. Demolitionist 10. Survivalist
@Nau92922 жыл бұрын
i like how you put support on the middle ground, as a support main i agree that we are the most "balanced" class in this game, every game don't actually need us but they appreciate when they have us.
My Firebug is definitely C tier people die all the time because of panicking Scrakes
@Zarrakon2 жыл бұрын
That’s called firebugs being bad lol. Why are they hitting scrakes
@strokerrebirth2628 Жыл бұрын
Firebugs should not be hitting large zerds unless they have a Helios rifle.
@amspook2 жыл бұрын
I still remember when Medic is the original Survivalist. I would hold on medic pistol because the smg is bad, and get medic rifle when I get the chance. DBS is a must, then either desert eagle or katana. Funny thing is, medic don't have any drawback if you use another perk weapon since they don't have any offensive advantages.
@Re3Ns2 жыл бұрын
Damage buff is your only offensive advantage
@amspook2 жыл бұрын
@@Re3Ns And that is from perk effect. Medic is the only class without passive damage increase, but it easily make up for it by having the one of the best defensive abilities.
@hakeemshabazz32072 жыл бұрын
Idk, maybe the smg got buffed since you last played. I definitely grab the smg as soon as possible.
@amspook2 жыл бұрын
@@hakeemshabazz3207 Yeah, I know. Back then, the only good weapons medic had are the pistol and the rifle.
@keemo30842 жыл бұрын
I’ve always hated survivalist.
@imBadAss20002 жыл бұрын
Sur is my fav perk and i'll clear my point rn. First at all, you can carry any type of gun but the most OP is you can have that's Frost Fang or Hemoclobber for extra speed and freeze big zed or healing your teammate, but the most thing about is that you can parry FP that coming. Secondly, Sur is better clown control than Firebug, you have HRG Arc Generator or Freezethrower, both great with stun skill. and the last, if you don't have big zed killer that you can do it by yourself no matter what coming, Fp? Only need 3shots for head with Rail Gun +1 and only 2 for SC. Anyway you want to pick fast reload for Sup, ss skill. On my perspective, Sur is the guy can handle any situation that's coming on him. The Chad Sur will make your game more ez than a crazy head firebug, a ss that's don't know how to aim for the head, a Zerk that always need healing. Big tips for anyone want to enjoy the perk that's don't use Commando, swat loadout for him because you don't have any recoil reduce. My skill is RRLLR for most of the time and yes I'll switch middle skill when the game at nearly ending wave.
@ravenclawtom2 жыл бұрын
heres my tier list: everything but survalist is S tier survalist is A tier
@MILDMONSTER1234 Жыл бұрын
Reapee Ron and Richards tier lists are like completely flipped from each others😂
@bread12152 жыл бұрын
what do you use for your ingame crosshair/reticle?
@litchetur2 жыл бұрын
Love your kf2 content. Please keep going with your amazing work ✊
@TheRealPots2 жыл бұрын
had to sub to a fellow Richard, came from poothfunders vid! 😎
@LeevoBeepo Жыл бұрын
survivalist kinda goated though with m4+rpg or the axe shotgun/arc generator
@NoName-md6fd2 жыл бұрын
Always chaotic perks at the bottom heh ? Probably just because of that headshot meta. If you get good ones or switch strats they are fairly good. I would put SWAT in D, firebug and demo in C with berserk and gunsligner as the SS tier. I think sharp is a bit too high. It's a powerful perk but comparing KF1 to KF2, mobility is a better option than stationary camping. Gunsligner is KF2's sharpshooter in that regard. I was playing firebug consistently on public matches at Hell on earth, like no firebug is not situational hahaha. I get out of the way when it's time and while I suck at aiming my situational awareness is good and firebug rewards this greatly.
@jacobmosovich2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a review of the incendiary rifle and the DLC flare gun on firebug? Im using a flamethrower incendiary rifle combo
@deadbear5442 жыл бұрын
What does prestige do besides giving you skins?
@Unorthodox20492 жыл бұрын
You get dosh, but the main reason is just having the shiny icon
@synchronium242 жыл бұрын
@@Unorthodox2049 *Vosh (for opening crates) Dosh is in game for weapons/ammo/armor.
@gavynbrandt2 жыл бұрын
You get about 4 golden dosh crates too, its only worth it if you're willing to put the time in for bullshit or actually main a class and want all the red prestige weapons
@garrettjackson9132 жыл бұрын
Man I was wondering when you would be posting a new video about Killing Floor 2, speaking of games you haven't made videos for, is it possible you could do more weapon guides for Payday 2?
@AJ-zu7ct2 жыл бұрын
Thermite Bore + Helios = Insane ass time
@mickaelklein18642 жыл бұрын
Best loadout for gunslinger atm in your opinion?
@gavynbrandt2 жыл бұрын
You obviously haven't tried the perk that lets you roast the ground with fire using a shotgun
@kylekomicbro18362 жыл бұрын
Why do people care at all about balance in kf2? Given its pve?
@Velikan9352 жыл бұрын
Well all my stuff has reseted so this is helpful
@philipsangalang50772 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! And I love a good tier list that recognizes the value of Commando :) I do have a few changes: S - Essential: Commando, Medic, Firebug, Demolitionist, Gunslinger A - Very Strong: Sharpshooter, Support, Berserker B - Solid Choice: Swat C -Situational: Survivalist
@bigjalapeno63072 жыл бұрын
Noice. What do you play on?
@philipsangalang50772 жыл бұрын
@@bigjalapeno6307 ah I'm on PC
@nikolachiara92852 жыл бұрын
I think your Commando bias is a bit much personally, I agree zed time is crazy, but the class is not an S tier, I definitely feel Field Medic is much more useful and essential than a Commando. I don't think it's bad at all, but the bias I feel clearly shows
@RichardDangles2 жыл бұрын
I think its so underrated by other players. The ability to extend zed time and be effective-ish against any ZED while still be tankier than average makes it very strong. Obviously its value gets reduced with odd/"sub-optimal" builds.
@synchronium242 жыл бұрын
@@RichardDangles "while still be tankier than average" Took me a bit to figure this out. I guess you're talking about the Tenacious skill.
@ADR_JaiDe_N2 жыл бұрын
@@synchronium24 125 HP
@gavynbrandt2 жыл бұрын
Commando players are usually the first to die in pubs, been playing since launch and it's still funny seeing the level 16 commando get obliterated while I play with overpowered shotguns instakilling everything in sight
@nikolachiara92852 жыл бұрын
@@RichardDangles The ability to extend zed time is extremely useful, nut unless everyone has zed time perks, it is not as useful as you make it out to be, zed time is always helpful, but I genuinely would rather have a better class for damage or tankiness before that point. The commando isn't a bad class, but I cannot see it having any more value than A tier at best, it does not belong in S tier at all. Like I said I think your bias kind of clouds your ranking judgement with it, not getting into other placements either
@SleepAddictBoy2 жыл бұрын
HE'S BACK!!! HE'S BACK!!!
@unknowjd2 жыл бұрын
Thx just got back in the game
@DemolitionboyXX2 жыл бұрын
*sees a tier list video Me: Hes gonna put survivalist in bottom tier on its own. Richard: survivalist...we all know how i feel about that. Me: Bro! What survivalist hurt you?!
@dr.albtraum71732 жыл бұрын
I want to hear your thoughts on the new guns in Deep Rock Galactic
@laglevy5325 Жыл бұрын
Commando and support being better than field medic is absolutely crazy.
@valhalanguardsman25882 жыл бұрын
Commando has minigun
@mlkvblendzior2 жыл бұрын
Which sucks hard
@Kepler1702 жыл бұрын
yeah, and it sucks about as hard as a prostitute on a friday night
@johnharter75532 жыл бұрын
forgot this game existed
@iAlwaysNeverWlN2 жыл бұрын
How could you 🥺
@sandhywinartja86622 жыл бұрын
Demo and Medic is seriously useful for HoE run though
@Standard20012 жыл бұрын
I got one question which class deal the most dps?
@krismoon71102 жыл бұрын
demolitionist/Gunslinger
@Standard20012 жыл бұрын
@@krismoon7110 thank you ❤️
@ningen69952 жыл бұрын
I would love to play with anyone who's on xbox I'm downnnnnn
@parable55682 жыл бұрын
Why does this video have so little comments and views after half an hour?
@kurufuioriNOSB2 жыл бұрын
This tier list is for console version? In pc try to be solid in aim in no hit with sharpshooter, is realy hard and that do him a no solid perk
@gavynbrandt2 жыл бұрын
On Suicidal and Hell on Earth the zeds start dodge rolling, its really funny and much harder to hit them
@helmetmcbarin4 ай бұрын
People only like gunslinger because its OP if the perks were balanced nobody would like gunslinger they just keep nerfing the wrong perks
@catiloh60862 жыл бұрын
Rip berserker
@JiboiaJin Жыл бұрын
Can we all get on a buff the berserker band wagon lol
@MILDMONSTER1234 Жыл бұрын
The nerfs weren’t that bad lol
@thekittehman Жыл бұрын
I think Swat is slept on alot. Yeah it doesn't pack quite the punch that Commando does. Put it's actually a great class for protecting more vulnerable perks like Sharpshooter. Not to mention with the Riot shield it actually a Tanky class with some sneaky burst.
@Kepler1702 жыл бұрын
medic is S tier, they; along with commando, can carry teams on their own but through two entirely different ways
@flashn00b2 жыл бұрын
I still think that Berserker is treading into pay to win territory when taking into consideration both the recent nerfs and the Piranha Pistol's introduction. Perhaps it would've been worth taking paid weapons into considering the tier list
@Unorthodox20492 жыл бұрын
You are severely underestimating survivalist and medic is definitely not that high
@RichardDangles2 жыл бұрын
You're right, medic S tier.
@killersmiley-hd60592 жыл бұрын
whats the deal of putting gunslinger in S tier? only thing i can see where hes shineing at would dmg output in a long zedtime and the best medium zed killer with no chaos guns but with a hell of a lot downsides like high ammo price low ammo capacity extreamly long realoadtime (since realoadcanceling patch) and no extra for the team
@dedkrampus66062 жыл бұрын
да ладно об этой игре ещё что-то говорят
@BlackIronGamer2 жыл бұрын
As a survivalist main I'm offended
@lordschon2 жыл бұрын
KF3 .... ITS NOT EXIST 2078.
@michaelmcfly68902 жыл бұрын
Here me out, survivalist with kaboomstick maxed, desert eagles maxed, and hemoclobber. It’s an unstoppable class
@ignisshadowflame10272 жыл бұрын
Every perk can cause problems if played wrong. If played right all perks can pair well with any other perk.
@jonathandoe13672 жыл бұрын
Survivalist should be higher, at least when solo or paired with chaos perks. Source: Kaboomstick + Hemoclobber + Med-Pistol. Thank you for your time.
@scootthetubbypirate2 жыл бұрын
Hey can anyone help me, for over 3 years I've tried to play Killing Floor 2 but it won't let me make or join games... Tripwire support says the problem is fixed and to just reset my xbox... I've done that plus reinstall multiple times I've had 2 different internet providers in that time frame and 2 new xboxs so it can't be a hardware issue... im just lost, I love this game but I can't play it
@bigjalapeno63072 жыл бұрын
Alright does anyone want to squad up on PS4 though
@MYNAMEISFROWNER2 жыл бұрын
You can't carry the AA-12 and Doom stick, unfortunately. The Benelli M4 is a great substitute though.
@Ry-Horn2 жыл бұрын
Yes you can they both weigh 10 and max level support can carry 20
@MYNAMEISFROWNER2 жыл бұрын
@@Ry-Horn Maybe I got it mixed up with Survivalist, I usually play as that class.
@I_break_games2 жыл бұрын
I see commando as A their because he's not OP and gets his damage buff at level 20 which is bad for hell on earth only have one damage option
@Enger12 жыл бұрын
I really like the Idea of suvivalist but the Talents He gets are so Shit i would Love to have more ammo or reloadspeed at lvl 5, maybe extra Hp at lvl 10 and Something Like the Supports ammo and Armor Kits For the team maybe a dmg buff For the whole Team If the suvivalist Kills a big Zed anyway nice Tierlist
@LeftysRage2 жыл бұрын
Really, Survivalist needs work? You're not using it correctly then. Pick up a Locust and Boomstick and you'll carry the team most games. Even the Killerwatt will be strong. Had more than a few clutches with the class no problems.
@halfasoap11722 жыл бұрын
Demolitionist is at least B tier, probably A. The fact that full sized flesh pounds are hard to headshot when charging, and that they're only weak to explosive damage, makes Demolitionist almost a necessity for dealing with them. If i notice my team doesn't have a demo, i'll use a cross-perk explosive weapon to fill the gap. plus a good demo can handle scrakes by stunning them with a dynamite to the head, and then point blank RPG headshot, which is at least an instakill in suicidal difficulty.
@hakeemshabazz32072 жыл бұрын
On HOE, S!!!!😂👍🏾
@recoraccoon2 жыл бұрын
YEAAAAHHHH
@anarchyorslavery16162 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree on firebug and demo being C tier. Who cares about if they steal commando/sharp kills when they can just as easily take out those big zeds on their own, especially when paired together. Zerk/sharp are really only decent at taking down enemies like qp or scrake as a supplement to firebug or demo who may or may not get overwhelmed byt them; aside from that they can do decent damage to bosses, notably the king fleshpound, but that's about it. But until later rounds, commando, sharp, and support will be very dosh hungry when that money should be going to trash clearing early and mid game, which is why you never see firebug or demo really die early; so those are the perks that deserve the higher priority and more dosh.
@connedwards70302 жыл бұрын
I main firebug and swat, I'm always at the top of the leader board But hey these are just opinions anyway
@supercool15946 ай бұрын
#stopfirebughate
@killersmiley-hd60592 жыл бұрын
i am a ps4/5 player and on console its one of the weekest skillperks you could possibly take cant trust the guns with this ridiculous recoil and ghostbullets and you deffently need every single bullet in you gun for a big zed takedown i hope its much better on pc