Permanent Magnet Motor

[@zeropointfuel]

@wits2014 this was a study in 3D it was just a experiment to show how the cam could be adjusted easily instead of a fixed crank like in the other ZPF video it is supposed to attract and repel the magnets pushing the piston. 3 pistons are providing torque and one is breaking the field . there was even some consideration about adding a small pulsed electromagnet to disrupt the attraction at the right point a small generator driven of the main shaft would provide the power. we never built it.

[@danh337]

The problem with rotary motion magnet motors is geometry. The force required to pull 2 magnets apart equals the force that pulled them together. Net output would be 0, MINUS friction between components. Some other "free" force must be integrated into the design, like gravity. Best designs I've seen use magnetism to overcome gravity + some small amount of work.

[@Kyle_Sherrington]

Create the exact specs for a machine like this, and email it to EVERYBODY. That way no government or big business can silence technology like this. It's for the planet.

[@zeropointfuel]

@TheDallasDragon Lightwave 3d is the program, but yes works great in there, you need a program to cancelate the magnetic field properly maybe solid works .this animation was just to figure out the parts, sizes a clearance.

[@TheJoaquimd]

What is the function of the reciprocating part? I can see it in a combustion engine to transform the linear motion of the piston in rotation of the cranckshaft, but in an electric? The electric motor already produces rotational motion (and torque and so on), I can see the advantage of having it, but anyway...

[@MirkoFerronato]

Great! How can I calculate the distance an diameter ratio to balance the magnets? I will reproduce at real! Thanks

[@VonBraun87545]

Magnetic motors work if arranged properly. They work from polarized magnetic force "stored" in their mass. Take a candy cane striped cylinder like at a barber shop. There are red lines and blue lines. Place positive magnet ends pointing out on the red and negative on the blue. Place this into a hollow drum close where only straight lined positive mag lines are pointing inwards towards candy cane mags. The inner cylinder will spinn at about 10,000 rpms with strong mags. A classic design.

[@zeropointfuel]

@lirik4oo.. No sorry to correct you, But only DC motors use permanent magnets,AC motors and some DC use electromagnets

[@thisguy1ify]

Great concept, I think the time for innovations in the magnetic field, no pun intended, are becoming more and more realistic. I would like to see this taken a few steps further and not limit the design by showing a structural casing for the engine i.e. would having more pistons and/or increasing the length of the low friction slides optimize the power output since the energy needed comes from practically an unlimited supply?

[@joshuabrown9643]

I suspect that this motor will find equilibrium in real life, but it is a novel approach and a fairly plausible idea. I like your work, good job.

[@zeropointfuel]

@kaballeroet yes you can build in Solidworks and I would recommend that you should use it instead of lightwave, 3D because it would give you more information about stress and other important information, if you have the right plugins for Solidworks.. but it was done with lightwave 3D cheers :P

[@zeropointfuel]

@8900rall Not sure if it will work! that was the point of the 3d simulation is to help answer that question this is the second design the first was to complex this should be easer to build and the first one.The cams are adjustable unlike the first one

[@zz4443zz]

Assuming this works, wouldn't the engine's material (metal etc) wear out sooner or later? This'd be useful, not trying to point out anything serious here.

[@zeropointfuel]

@GHOSTTOYS no sorry there not ,only AC induction type motors have no magnets Almos all DC motors do have magnets and speakers have magnets

[@denisliossi]

Well, if it banks on a constant change of polarity of (what would be) the stator, the single question for me is if the energy produced by the rotor is enough to mechanically do this. I haven´t tested it yet but my feeling is it doesn´t challenge the thermodynamics phenomena. Will take a look at the website

[@dubstepTonme]

@TheJoaquimd The reciprocating parts work in unison with each other, as they also house magnets of different polarities. This way they can use a combination of attraction and repulsion from the reciprocating motion to create a synchronous drive. If the shaft is common, you can increase the number of for greater output and of torque. Brilliant design

[@zeropointfuel]

a small electromagnetic pulse at the right moment may over come the sticking point and provide a added push but that has not been tested this was only a simulation to predict the moment of the parts good luck.

[@geraldrowley9411]

Nice Design, would like to see what happens when someone builds it!

[@fijilux]

you know, I dreamt this engine one night...i wrote my idea on a note. in the morning I verify that other guys had this idea. I call it magnetic dynamo. i think it could be a very interesting invention. go on with your idea!!! good luck

[@TamirylAuvahn]

How much horsepower can an engine like this create?

[@zeropointfuel]

@TheJoaquimd the flywheel has 8 N and S magnets the gear is 1 to 4 the small piston is attracted by the magnet as it moves past each one of the pistons they are attracted in sequence as it moves the flywheel the last 2 pistons are being attracted the first piston is pushing against the next magnet as the piston goes up the belt move forward and the cycle is repeated but the sticking point is between the attraction point when its closest tho the piston it must overcome that point to work

[@zeropointfuel]

@TheBoneman42 exactly you got it ,and if you Change the Scale/Ratio of the cam wheels you change force applied to the gate at the point of transition Nice!

[@noedengineer]

How do you control the throttle?

[@kaballeroet]

@zeropointfuel you cand do it with solidworks

[@zeropointfuel]

@nikojnemavakvo no sorry this is a motion simulation I designed it to study how it may be possible to create a "MOM" magnet only motor, there is one sticking point in the design that creates to much drag to overcome, a pulsed electromagnet may fix the issue but I have too many projects to build this right now, the Cartmotor V5 is almost there and it has allot more control, and the Boxmotor is on the way.

[@GiorgosAnarchos]

The power you need to move the cam shaft is equal to the power you get from shaft.As a result you get...dead nature.The animation is good and provocating.Keep on trying

[@wizardangel]

interesting ,,build it and get a reading on torch output....these ideas often seem very reasonable but once built I find very weak on working output ,,I still think the magnetic style is the way to go though,just a matter of what combination -Many thanks for your ideas ,,

[@voodoo2337]

What is the easiest to use 3d software to do those? I need something that you draw XY XZ ZY and then make it solid with functions

[@zeropointfuel]

@noedengineer well if it worked the generator load would be the brake but this 3D render is far from a working prototype cheers

[@EHuelsz]

do someone know in wich program was this animation made?

[@manceindo69]

COOL ,I like this !, have you more 3D simulation? Thank you.

[@saad5937]

which software did you used?

[@chmdima1]

The missing part of creating an overunity machine. Thanks for the idea

[@rockerzac99]

This is an amazing concept!

[@crafter2u]

what program are you useing ?

[@zeropointfuel]

yes but not of this the new project is the BoxMotor Home power system the videos are on my channel but sorry the animations will be on the DVD of the project

[@a2zhandi]

nice thought. Keep thinking. It looks like you'll come up with something soon.

[@PabloH4]

I dont get the magnetic motors, the amount of energy that it's going to give you is the same amount of energy that you give to it to put it to work, doesn't it?

[@zeropointfuel]

@TheBudhistpunk nice!! that's is a good idea if it neutralizes the field at the strongest point of attraction it would only have to pulse to break the attraction at that point the other 2 pistons are in full attraction at that point and one is trying to break away for the attraction of the wheel good point .

[@avionshanmuga]

is this motion is working

[@Hanzo.876]

are those mono pole magnets?

[@zeropointfuel]

No they're not monopole magnets

[@AngelGhrMx]

@darkmak3r What i was thinking while watching this video is... he could put the "piston-like" magnets in a just little less radius... if in this configuration is at 80º... he could move it to 75º or something (test's should be made)... so not just make the center to move at a constant speed... but to make it accelerate slowly... the friction will make its work trying to stop it, but with the right configuration... it could accelerate until the friction is harder and then stop at high RPM's! =)

[@SpaceEngines]

Neat 3d animation skills!

[@Rawbush]

Very interesting design, are you building one now? Peace rawbush

[@EHuelsz]

@zeropointfuel thanks

[@CowMeCow]

Oh Wow~! You have a speical brain dude!~ You must have gone through lots of thoughts~!

[@zeropointfuel]

@drumajor22621 No.. the magnets in DC motors don't get week from being exposed the electromagnetic fields generated by the electromagnets, a magnetic field is the same no matter how its created :) some people say only good for 20 years but if that is true, Old Automobiles DC motors like blowers,wipers,power windows,fuel pumps and power door locks wouldn't work in old cars ... :)

[@icedragonaftermath]

@Tito23892 Why wouldn't it work? I know it wouldn't be this magical perpetual motion or whatever, but why wouldn't this be capable of operating, period? I'd like a proper explanation, sir.

[@zeropointfuel]

No probably not there are some missing parts in the animation

[@lirik4oo]

@nikojnemavakvo Im sorry but you do know that EVERY single elecric motor uses MAGNETS do you?

[@zeropointfuel]

It is only a simulation to test how the parts fit together we have not built it yet we have been working with pulse motors checkout our channel to see some real progress Cheers

[@csjunk187]

a very good concept ! Clean-Energy-FTW ;-)

[@zeropointfuel]

sorry guy I use Lightwave and it not easy may be SketchUp but I am not sure about the animation good luck and thanks for watching

[@ganisierva]

great video... like your concept

[@GaneshmanLamathinker]

Idea not bad but still attraction and repulsion power zero cause poles not change like in electric motor.Still have to work more.Good wishes.

[@zeropointfuel]

we are working with Induction generators and pulse motors right now check out our website and KZbin channel for more info. if you want more information on this permanent magnet motor do search on Maxforce motor maybe that will help understand this concept (oh one other thing we don't charge for our information it is all open source) we are trying to find solutions not scam money so we alone can control it that is just plain wrong. no offence not aimed at you.

[@JIZZZification]

thumbs up if you think this is possible, with all the pressure, friction resistance, and small attraction resistance for opposite poles of the magnets.

[@saad5937]

@zeropointfuel thanks man

[@zeropointfuel]

@EHuelsz Lightwave 3D

[@KimTyroneAgapito]

Your vid went viral on Kingston

[@qunniq]

i supose this could power a very weak motor.

[@zeropointfuel]

Respond to this video...Solid Works is the one to use if you can afford it

[@someh30]

very nice, i ill try make a one litlle prototipe

[@zeropointfuel]

@masterfatman1 lightwave

[@zeropointfuel]

No just a motion study

[@zeropointfuel]

@nikojnemavakvo LOL your Kidding Right....WOW

[@BobMcNutt]

now that,s what,, I,ve been thinking,, this is near perfect,,, the timing is what,, was missing,,, free energy is around the corner...

[@aoumeurmohamed]

I work this invention in 2008/2009

[@benthehelper]

Imagine if this was real. Inifinite possibilities. Underground green houses powered by z.p. energy, hydrogen fuel from water to fuel cars (Fuel economy is important to keep) net metering for extra cash, water/space heating using electricity with low cost, pump sea water into sahara, or just power farms in sahara. Use imagination. (HINTS ALERT!)

[@TrueGreatness73]

nice, make one for my car and ill pay you for it... I want to buy that.

[@zeropointfuel]

@magnetchina Lightwave 3D

[@hedayatullahheelahwar2150]

Amazing

[@zeropointfuel]

no

[@Abibamed]

This can be real StuffIt beccasse it has 2 rotors that support s mach others when one motor lode power and revive it!

[@Dri0m0irD]

ok, now make it :D

[@mulyadiraja]

hmmm...maybe..

[@zeropointfuel]

@saad5937 Lightwave

[@edouard59550]

exellent

[@shoopdog92]

screw the laws of physics...... why do we always think them guys were ALL right? like come on there has been a few suposed to laws we have broken and had to change why cant it happen any more????

[@TurkishGamer92]

@ObamaIsMaBabyDaddy Of course you can. Did you ever hear of electromagnetic induction? Just let those magnets pass next to coils and so they create electric energy.

[@zeropointfuel]

@stusalitusbrian sorry you need to do your research most of those motors don't work even this design needs improvement some of them say they work but really don't, there hoping you will give them some money DON'T!! "things are never as simple as they seem" and $500 LOL good luck with that

[@aoumeurmohamed]

Then I have to help me in activity to system of electricety to protect your fammily of risk to chok electricety I work video in the KZbin you watch the video and spik to me

[@zeropointfuel]

@Tito23892 NO its a Video, Don't be such a Dumb Ass.. you know I can't believe how many people get upset over a motion animation, Get over it if all you got to do is complain about what others do GO OUTSIDE AND GET A LIFE!!!!!

[@lokeshjatangi5733]

which software u used for this simulation.