Persians Join the Conflict - Peloponnesian War DOCUMENTARY

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@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals Жыл бұрын
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@News1_Rizwan
@News1_Rizwan Жыл бұрын
Urdu subtitle please .
@METALFREAK03
@METALFREAK03 Жыл бұрын
Would you go back and do some Egyptian (ancient) again? Specifically the old or middle kingdom? Or even Sumerian? Thanks for all your content.
@shzarmai
@shzarmai Жыл бұрын
Please consider making a video on the Sixteen Kingdoms of Chinese history. 🙏
@Maus_Indahaus
@Maus_Indahaus Жыл бұрын
I really hope that you continue with the history of ancient Greece following Peloponnesian war, as there were many interesting battles and events in the 4th century BC
@iexist3919
@iexist3919 Жыл бұрын
The Sicilian Expedition may have been the turning point, but the war in the Hellespont was the reason why the Athenians lost. Most Athenian food supplies came through the Hellespont, and being unable to compete with Persian gold, Athens would become seriously weakened. It’s unfortunately Thucydides died before he could write about the final and most crucial stage of the war, but I’m glad you guys covered it!
@ElBandito
@ElBandito Жыл бұрын
Soldiers cannot fight without food. Which is why experts talk logistics.
@andraenicholson3557
@andraenicholson3557 Жыл бұрын
"...after a signal was sent. Possibly a walking Egyptian dance move by the Eretian contingent." Ok, this caught me off guard😂.
@Maverick0451
@Maverick0451 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant coverage of one of the most important and iconic campaigns in all of history!! Thank you as always for the marvelous content!!
@DefeatedRoyalist
@DefeatedRoyalist Жыл бұрын
Pharabazus II, greatest Persian tactician of the 5th century. A Mardonius reborn, honorable and intelligent. Man served the King of Kings up into his 70’s. His grandson served under Memnon of Rhodes regularly sacking Macedonian naval power during Alexander’s invasion. His grandson would later serve in the successor wars successfully beating Hellenistic cavalry with his Iranic proto-cataphracts. Edit: this video seemed to gloss over the probable use of Persian cavalry to check the Athenian pursuit after the route. Thus, enabling the bulk of the Lacedaemonians to escape the battle.
@viraloracle5151
@viraloracle5151 Жыл бұрын
the proto cataprhacts of achaemanid persia are often overlooked, many believed they first appeared during parthian dynasty in Iran but they were already widely used in achaemanid persian dynasty of Iran.
@DefeatedRoyalist
@DefeatedRoyalist Жыл бұрын
@@viraloracle5151 well said friend!
@carlosjavierpalacios6793
@carlosjavierpalacios6793 Жыл бұрын
Ironic how the tyrants, representing the elite, wanted to end the war, and the people, those who will really suffer the consecuences of war, wanted to keep going.
@markuhler2664
@markuhler2664 Жыл бұрын
You see so much of modern politics in history - alliances of convenience, trying to trade freedom for security, grabs for power during and causing upheavals, the "enemy of my enemy" approach to international relations. Fantastic video (aka your normal quality).
@roihanfadhil2879
@roihanfadhil2879 Жыл бұрын
Ah, the Achaemenid Intervention during the Ancient Greeks Civil Wars.
@111battlefront
@111battlefront Жыл бұрын
I always found it interesting how just a generation or so prior, these ancient people were bitter rivals from the intense Greco-Persian wars, soon turned into collaborators. Geopolitics at its finest.
@manuelvarelas1714
@manuelvarelas1714 Жыл бұрын
😂 ahhhh. Indeed
@tsarzamancorpdna
@tsarzamancorpdna Жыл бұрын
Achaemenids enjoying the show: finally my fav shows back on
@cortobrown7919
@cortobrown7919 Жыл бұрын
At last, our redemption has arrive
@KaiHung-wv3ul
@KaiHung-wv3ul Жыл бұрын
@@111battlefront Sparta: "It is Persia, but it's also gold....hmmm...."
@Numba003
@Numba003 Жыл бұрын
The Persian involvement reminds me of the old adage, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Thank you for another fascinating episode! God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)
@Manorlordsfan
@Manorlordsfan 2 ай бұрын
Ancient Greece is definitely my favorite era EVER in history. Y’all did a fine job @KingsandGenerals
@firestorm1088
@firestorm1088 Жыл бұрын
Alcibiades’ life was one of the craziest stories in history. He pushed for the Sicilian expedition, then got removed from command for knocking the dicks off statues. He defected to Sparta, then cucked the Spartan king and defected again to Persia. Orchestrated multiple coups in Athens, and despite all of that, ultimately was welcomed back to Athens as a prodigal son.
@KTA1sVidsandFacts
@KTA1sVidsandFacts Жыл бұрын
Definitely was a turning point when Persia just entered and said "It's Persia time!"
@shehansenanayaka3046
@shehansenanayaka3046 Жыл бұрын
We always appreciate your hard work and dedication towards these videos. Love and huge fan of you from Sri Lanka.
@ericbruce11
@ericbruce11 Жыл бұрын
Love this series!! I remember you guys saying that a 'long version' may come out with some extra battles/content--around when will that be posted?
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals Жыл бұрын
Yessir, the scripts are being written right now, release either in late 2023 or early 2024.
@queldron
@queldron Жыл бұрын
Thanks once again Kings and Generals! Keep them coming!
@TGeoMin
@TGeoMin Жыл бұрын
Do not forget that the most precious book for the Greco-Romans, the Iliad, starts with the dispute between Achilles and Agamemnon that "led many a man to the jaws of Hades". Civil strife is written in the Greco-Roman dna.
@windwaker8985
@windwaker8985 Жыл бұрын
I think the two civilizations are rather different. The romans didn't had that much civil wars, until they became a superpower and the power of generals became much greater than that of the senate.
@TGeoMin
@TGeoMin Жыл бұрын
@@windwaker8985 When the Romans were pure Romans had no civil wars. When they became GrecoRomans at around the time of Ceasar (as a necessity to keep their 50% Greek empire working) they began the civil wars. I personally believe that the transition from Republic to Empire with god-emperors was a de facto Hellenization of the Romans. They had to become Hellenistic kings in order to keep that massive engine running.
@TGeoMin
@TGeoMin Жыл бұрын
@@windwaker8985 Fun fact: Ceasar was more Hellenised than Roman. He used to speak more Greek than latin.
@HasanUnknown
@HasanUnknown Жыл бұрын
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@Zyzyx442
@Zyzyx442 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your sustained work at releasing videos often!
@Creeper2k4
@Creeper2k4 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work. Always enjoy the videos and am happy to contribute as a member. Its always top quality videos.
@jonathondwigans
@jonathondwigans Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video!
@brainflash1
@brainflash1 Жыл бұрын
It's always so frustrating watching Athens throw this war away.
@ucrjedi
@ucrjedi Жыл бұрын
@@gerardjagroo Understandable but that philosophical ship seems to have been righted after the humiliation of the Sicilian campaign.
@90skidcultist
@90skidcultist Жыл бұрын
I really dislike the infamous Spartans, and always felt that it should’ve been Athens that united Greece.
@brainflash1
@brainflash1 Жыл бұрын
@@90skidcultist I know right? Sparta was just a bunch of bullies! Athens was the real city.
@Ian-yf7uf
@Ian-yf7uf Жыл бұрын
It's simple, I see greek history KZbin videos, I watch video.
@Secondkomnenian
@Secondkomnenian Жыл бұрын
This looks amazing! Keep up the good work :)
@joshlesure3196
@joshlesure3196 Жыл бұрын
I think this can be thought of as one of the earliest examples of proxy wars. Another excellent video!
@philtkaswahl2124
@philtkaswahl2124 Жыл бұрын
All this makes me want a Hearts of Iron style grand strategy game for the Peloponnesian conflict.
@TGeoMin
@TGeoMin Жыл бұрын
Not Paradoxian style but Rome Total War has a Peloponesian war scenario.
@zoeking8320
@zoeking8320 Жыл бұрын
For a people without cash the Spartans were easy to buy with Persian gold
@ralambosontiavina7372
@ralambosontiavina7372 2 ай бұрын
Great work !
@AironSmieciowy-di3qy
@AironSmieciowy-di3qy Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 Жыл бұрын
The Spartans allying with the Persians really was treasonous... doesn't say much about the Spartan's famed military prowess.
@Kimmerios-l5u
@Kimmerios-l5u Жыл бұрын
Αctually one of the most important characteristics of the Spartans was that they had a very pragmatic approach to things,although taking persian gold was a step too far.
@KaiHung-wv3ul
@KaiHung-wv3ul Жыл бұрын
So much for Spartan "honor", huh. Though tbf Athens isn't exactly better.
@sanmames8203
@sanmames8203 Жыл бұрын
Spartans fight against persia in Greco Persians Wars, allied with them against Athenians (peloponnesian war) , conquer them (20 later). On the contrary, Athenias fight Persians in Greco-Persian and peloponnesian wars, and allied with them against Sparta 20 years later (Corinthian war)
@danielkolev9270
@danielkolev9270 Жыл бұрын
Btw I would like to see a video about Thrace and the interection with the greek cities. Also the greek colonies in black sea and their influence.
@thomasrinschler6783
@thomasrinschler6783 Жыл бұрын
4:00 Alcibiades was accused of having an affair with the wife of King Agis, not the wife of King Pleistoanax.
@spanishsrilambo
@spanishsrilambo Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the fantastic content! I love this series, but I have to say I don't know whether I like laconic speech more: I mean it's a disastrous defeat, the commander is killed and the fleet captured or destroyed. The Spartans: Looks like the ships are gone🗿
@mowgli2071
@mowgli2071 Жыл бұрын
The announcement of a coming video on the anabasis is welcome news
@-RONNIE
@-RONNIE Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 Жыл бұрын
Nicely informative video this was.
@Icebassh
@Icebassh Жыл бұрын
Talk about Ancient Drama, this period was so chaotic and its really genius how you're able to provide a cohesive narrative in an entertaining manner. I have to say Alcibiades is a master 3D Chess player, I'm fully convinced he mastered the catastrophe in Syracuse and conveniently 'disappeared' just so he can appear in time and save the day (its fun to think of it that way at least) but seriously he's an inspiration as a political strategist.
@beachboy0505
@beachboy0505 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video 📹 Honours even to Sparta and Athens
@MikeOtranto
@MikeOtranto Жыл бұрын
Did the ancient sources, such as Plutarch, reference the other sources they used to compile their histories? As in a bibliography?
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals Жыл бұрын
Not in the form of bibliography, but rather passing mention.
@drakependraig7083
@drakependraig7083 Жыл бұрын
I understand the reference. And loved the video. But, the tomato at 1:52... there were no tomatoes in Europe at this time.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals Жыл бұрын
We know, it is just a symbol
@onardico
@onardico Жыл бұрын
athens needed a plague, a alliance between the two most powerful land greeks armies, a stupid campaign in sicily and the persian gold to be defeated
@jangjueparsi9915
@jangjueparsi9915 Жыл бұрын
Finally somebody made a video about it
@alimirzaee4689
@alimirzaee4689 Жыл бұрын
Habibi come to persia before persia comes to youuuu
@alirezasouri1879
@alirezasouri1879 Жыл бұрын
Inja hame orginalan
@franciscovelasco5422
@franciscovelasco5422 Жыл бұрын
1:50 intercontinental tomato missile
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals Жыл бұрын
Kept as a joke. And a comment catnip.
@vojtechslezak4553
@vojtechslezak4553 Жыл бұрын
The moment when Leonidas started spinning in his grave.
@tctheunbeliever
@tctheunbeliever Жыл бұрын
7:50 K&G has a sense of humor! I mean humour.
@richardstone5552
@richardstone5552 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@KonTheo78
@KonTheo78 Жыл бұрын
Alcibiades was the better strategos after Pericles. But was a man of his time.
@appianw5530
@appianw5530 Жыл бұрын
very good video. but on 04:05, it should be "with the wife of king Agis".
@jaohonaxa
@jaohonaxa Жыл бұрын
I honestly had no idea that Persia had any involvement in this war. Really makes you think that Athens screwed up its diplomacy even worse than it seemed if other Greeks were okay helping Sparta after it sided with their mortal enemy of just a few decades ago.
@mariusmarcu4892
@mariusmarcu4892 Жыл бұрын
Chapeau!
@haryy3840
@haryy3840 Жыл бұрын
“Walking Egyptian dance move”
@crazypuzzlescollector8939
@crazypuzzlescollector8939 Жыл бұрын
Keep uploading video like this Because BC war are awesome than CE for my opinion.
@Aginor88
@Aginor88 Жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@zach7193
@zach7193 Жыл бұрын
Athens seemed to be desperate after the Sicilian expedition. Almost like Sweden in the Northern War.
@DesertAres
@DesertAres Жыл бұрын
A good outline of a very complicated ongoing, bloodbath, changing allies, and who's got the Persian gold today? Only one comment on the map (I'm a retired Cartographer), Byzantium should be Byzantion at this stage. The latin 'ium' came much later. The Romans were fighting everybody in Italy north, south and east and had no time to sniff around the Hellespont.
@kentkagle7852
@kentkagle7852 Жыл бұрын
Awesome work you do do Just awesome
@alfrancisbuada2591
@alfrancisbuada2591 Жыл бұрын
And A Certain King Up North Waits Again
@theawesomeman9821
@theawesomeman9821 Жыл бұрын
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
@jozzieokes3422
@jozzieokes3422 Жыл бұрын
👏
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 Жыл бұрын
Athens should've concentrated on the mainland instead of losing it all in Sicily.
@younestitane
@younestitane Жыл бұрын
Dzayer
@JohnnyElRed
@JohnnyElRed Жыл бұрын
How the turn tables.
@georgepapatheofilou6118
@georgepapatheofilou6118 Жыл бұрын
Silly Greeks Always hurting each other and never being united unless under anothers Empire
@CIABACKWARDYAKUZA
@CIABACKWARDYAKUZA Жыл бұрын
bro romans greeks civil war many yeah is truee haha and in cold war from greece 1945 1946 greek civil war happening ending for ww2 =?.
@JamesSarantidis
@JamesSarantidis Жыл бұрын
Well, it's not just a Greek thing. Rivaling factions uniting against a foreign enemy is a common trope throughout history, while Athens and Sparta at the time had almost the same animosity with each other as with Persia (So, it is not any more Silly than modern States in an Alliance squabbling for their own gains). It is also a common component of frontism ideology, uniting anyone against a common enemy, abused by wanna-be tyrants and autocrats. "Well I would love to share my power, but right now we have to fight against X, so you must allow me at the top."
@anondelivers9051
@anondelivers9051 Жыл бұрын
They didn't have tomatoes back in the day 😅
@MCMLXXXVICCXII
@MCMLXXXVICCXII Жыл бұрын
Wonder if Persians offered Alicibiades a post of power during his peak.
@Kimmerios-l5u
@Kimmerios-l5u Жыл бұрын
No but they gave him refuge in order to acquire his services later.
@MCMLXXXVICCXII
@MCMLXXXVICCXII Жыл бұрын
@@Kimmerios-l5u a missed opportunity for both sides then. This guy could do much for sure.
@markusskram4181
@markusskram4181 Жыл бұрын
🇬🇷❤️
@Taukingur
@Taukingur Жыл бұрын
Why was it uploaded 5 days ago?
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals Жыл бұрын
Change of schedule. It has been available for the members for months now.
@DF-zf5ws
@DF-zf5ws Жыл бұрын
🎉
@maciekdH
@maciekdH Жыл бұрын
Tomatoes were not known in Europe till 16th century… ancient Greeks could not throw them against unliked politicians
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals Жыл бұрын
Skill issue
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 Жыл бұрын
✌️✌️
@terry7907
@terry7907 Жыл бұрын
For the amount of entertainment and knowledge I receive, the Patreon subscription is cheap.
@LoneWanderer727
@LoneWanderer727 Жыл бұрын
Athenian democracy 🤝 political instability Maybe the Romans should have considered this when taking inspiration from Greek democracy 😅
@talhasial5502
@talhasial5502 Жыл бұрын
Sacrifice!
@Mrkabrat
@Mrkabrat Жыл бұрын
Alcibiades seems like a guy that will get himself stabbed to death due to his own bs
@kingkuroneko7253
@kingkuroneko7253 Жыл бұрын
Yo
@marksman1416
@marksman1416 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy every video, and appreicate that this series was released after being on patreon, but moving the regular uploads of the Pacific War after it going for a while to patreon only is scummy.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals Жыл бұрын
Explained our reasoning. It was two options. To cancel the series completely or move the standalone episodes away and then release them as long videos. Cancelling it was a worse option, in our opinion
@marksman1416
@marksman1416 Жыл бұрын
@@KingsandGeneralsWas it low view ship? There has been no explanation for viewers as far as I know.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals Жыл бұрын
@@marksman1416 there was a post with an explanation
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 Жыл бұрын
@@marksman1416 there was a long post about it.
@Ace0_-
@Ace0_- Жыл бұрын
All wars of this time was for kemet.
@christianpaulobernardo5161
@christianpaulobernardo5161 Жыл бұрын
ahura mazda zeus heaven hahaha
@not_so_anonymous7413
@not_so_anonymous7413 Жыл бұрын
isk anything about this but I think this will end with Macedonians invading the lands
@liberalgoodi
@liberalgoodi Жыл бұрын
Persians ❤🤍💚
@abhishek_sikarwar
@abhishek_sikarwar Жыл бұрын
PLEASE RELEASE PUNIC WARS SERIES AFTER THIS FOR NON MEMBER SUBSCRIBERS.
@jamdonut3930
@jamdonut3930 9 ай бұрын
who else woke up to this
@manolisvellis1531
@manolisvellis1531 Жыл бұрын
There were no tomatoes in greece back then to throw 😂😂
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals Жыл бұрын
Skill issue
@giannisgiannis870
@giannisgiannis870 Жыл бұрын
As a greek,i am so sad that Athens and Spartans made wars.. Now America USA(Athens) and Russia(Spartans) are making wars each other. Russians have stronger infantry and vehicles,lower navy(such as Spartans).They haven't also so more allies(such as ancient Spartans). From the other side,Athens was the boss country of Delian Alliance (USA are the Boss of NATO) and USA have bigger navy and lower infantry-tanks than Russia.USA also have more allies than Russia,such as the ancient spartans. We know what will happen if we see the past.. Russia will defeat USA but now the things are little different,because Americans have more allies than Athenians...
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals Жыл бұрын
History does not repeat itself, chill.
@giannisgiannis870
@giannisgiannis870 Жыл бұрын
@@KingsandGenerals Maybe you have right.Maybe now the Athenians(Americans) will defeat Spartans(Russians). But the next enemy,who will be? Against Sparta was the Thebans.
@giannisgiannis870
@giannisgiannis870 Жыл бұрын
@@KingsandGenerals We don't know the answer for the next enemy.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals Жыл бұрын
@@giannisgiannis870 again, history is not some kind of pattern. No one is Athens and no one is Sparta.
@alirezasouri1879
@alirezasouri1879 Жыл бұрын
And I thing persian are God in that case
@saltedllama2759
@saltedllama2759 Жыл бұрын
Ah, Greece. For centuries, it was fractured, fighting themselves and each other, trading sides over and over again, losing any gains made over and over again.
@nebulairan1494
@nebulairan1494 Жыл бұрын
متاسفانه شما ترجمه زبان فارسی نداری
@RoberttheFox0001
@RoberttheFox0001 Жыл бұрын
You still can't pronounce al·suh·bai·uh·deez
@dminard1
@dminard1 Жыл бұрын
It's surprising how amateurish the tactics of the Greeks were. Armies get smashed using simple tricks on a very small scale compared to later civilizations.
@jorisvermeule15
@jorisvermeule15 Жыл бұрын
@MK-br3gl
@MK-br3gl Жыл бұрын
Achaemenid not persian.
@hoomandario3847
@hoomandario3847 Жыл бұрын
Persian is correct. The rulling dynasty was from Persia in the southwest of modern day Iran.
@CIABACKWARDYAKUZA
@CIABACKWARDYAKUZA Жыл бұрын
BRUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
@shadowborn1456
@shadowborn1456 Жыл бұрын
Haha nice joke buddy
@AironSmieciowy-di3qy
@AironSmieciowy-di3qy Жыл бұрын
Great video!
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