Persona 2 Innocent Sin Boss Shadow Ginko [Hard]

[@wiseman_snap7346]

The japanese script originally had Shadow Lisa say WELCOME TO THE MY SHRINE, emphasizing on the fact that she doesn't know a lick of english.

[@elcomemierda2624]

that's funny

[@harrietr.5073]

And the official locsliser staff butchered it. Wonder if they knew the original intent of the line.

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

@@harrietr.5073 Not really butchering it, it's something you can't exactly replicate in English without sounding like a translation error.

[@jubairhuq5281]

0:59 “We’re nearly into the 21st century here. Why are high schoolers fighting to save the world?” Meanwhile in 2009/2011/2016: *high schoolers fight to save the world*

[@cantufekci23]

Jubair Huq also he says “this ain’t a video game”

[@gavinattalahadiyan325]

IT’S NOT A GAME I’M NOT SOME ROBOT AI CHALLENGING YOUU

[@ethanlalog9231]

@@gavinattalahadiyan325 I'm not a PHANTOM I'm in your FACE AND I'm here to SEE IT THROOOOOOOOOUGH

[@hasinhalim8280]

@@ethanlalog9231 right before you eyeeeeees Watch us multiplyyyyyyyy Time to claim our riiiiight It's tiiiiiiiiiiiime

[@fushigiman140]

So lisa is the first kung-fu girl before chise

[@travisfranklin6904]

Fushigi Man basically yeah

[@sebastianramirez9090]

both would get along really way i say, since both seem to like the many same things, Lisa just uses her punches instead of her kicks

[@Kmkmkms]

I like both but lisa is more chill about her love for kung fu

[@Southhs]

And the first half-foreign blonde before Anne

[@yhjidid7375]

and the first girl that clings upon the protag before rise

[@lowhp_comic]

Perhaps the only case where the real self is the one pressuring the Shadow Self into denial

[@Fulgore2005]

Everytime I reach this part, I always go with Lisa. One of my favourite parts of Innocent Sin.

[@Sinkune]

My heart belongs to eikichi !! xDD

[@elinacarmina3050]

Too bad he's already taken...

[@Windermed]

Miyabi: 👁

[@companiondroid]

There's something fun about seeing the cultists take turns beating the soldier in between dialogue cutscenes.

[@Yeaster]

Gagging at Lisa calling Maya, a 23 year old, an "old lady" 😆

[@PhthaloGreenskin]

What's funny is that in Japan Women who are over 25 are called "Christmas Cakes" because no one wants one after the 25th. You see this with Ulala in Eternal Punishment, who's 25 and has no love life and is bitter because of it.

[@Yeaster]

@@PhthaloGreenskin that's so sad

[@Kanzuki]

Lisa's reaction to Tatsuya's first response is so cute

[@tiensimon1263]

in the Japanese version of eternal punishment, it's heavily implied that jun and Tatsuya are more than just friends but still vague

[@GSSAGE7]

Tien Simon I know one major person on the creative staff considers them the canon pairing, while another major person considers Tatsuya and Maya to be the major pairing.

[@tiensimon1263]

GSSAGE7 american or japanese version? because the japanese version implys it, the American version in eternal punishments changes the scrip the it donest fit the actions in thr cutscene. you should be able to find the japanese to english translation on the internet

[@heyjoji1954]

Yeah but don't both versions have to choice to either have Tatsuya kiss maya or not

[@anomaly395]

0:55 He has no idea

[@nonbatnary]

White Girl (Boss Battle)

[@vsodii]

Maya - * have ziodyne * BuffMaster - * uses agi *

[@fistoftheworldking3834]

Hm. From "whoring" to "swindling". Sigh. Now I gotta cross reference the Japanese copy to see if it's altered or not.

[@Giggeles]

Fist of the World King original is scamming so swindling is the more accurate script, they changed it because they thought American audiences wouldn’t be affected if it wasn’t serious

[@juliantapia1407]

It also comes down to what international audiences would see of the act itself. She was going out being arm candy for older men, basically doing anything she could to shake the image her father or other students had of her. It's never implied that she had sex with anyone, so whoring isn't really appropriate, more like what is now called a "sugar baby".

[@Ernesto0822]

Best girl in the entire franchise

[@cmv_1869]

Do Eikichi and Kanji Tatsumi have the same voice actor

[@BuffMaister]

Yes, same voice actor. He also voiced in Persona 1.

[@javierfernandezrodriguez8729]

@@BuffMaister what character in especific???

[@BuffMaister]

Eikichi, blue character.

[@javierfernandezrodriguez8729]

@@BuffMaister no. I mean: which character of Persona 1 is voiced for the same voice actor of Eikichi and Kanji???

[@donglegs]

@@javierfernandezrodriguez8729Nanjo

[@geromelobo5970]

Doppelganger Lisa "GINKO" Silverman on the loose from another dimension.

[@talklalala1292]

so like: Lisa= Chie+Rise Eikichi= Yosuke+Kanji Jun= Yukiko+Naoto but a guy

[@donglegs]

Don’t get the comparisons between Eikichi and Kanji. Both have dads that pushed them to be masculine? But he’s a Yosuke in that he’s a comic relief punching bag.

[@jimmyorgenkaccrow4961]

@@donglegs Lisa's father is the infamous blackbelt martial artist.

[@joaolima7131]

I would say, Chie+Ann because Lisa is also a foreigner and she have distinct looks just like Ann

[@charleslynmartin795]

Tatsuya = Yu + Makoto

[@TheBenchLord]

I can't believe you didn't end the fight with "Let's Go, Everybody!"

[@sekibankilover]

It both annoys me and makes me laugh that even Lisa's shadow's name is called Ginko, atleast make it Lisa even for her shadow... you don't see me calling Eikichi "Undie Boss"

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

Even in the PS1 version in Japanese, she IS called Ginko by the text. Same for Eikichi being called "Michel".

[@TheRealRenAmamiya]

Shadow Undie Boss is fire 🔥🔥

[@lishuwen2360]

What does aiyah mean anyways

[@Dragonkaiser20]

ONI uriel More or less means "good grief" to English speakers.

[@cantufekci23]

Also, aiya owner from p4 is proud of lisa.

[@elinacarmina3050]

OMG

[@juliantapia1407]

I believe it's also a Chinese phrase, to further distance herself from the "proper Japanese lady" her japanophile dad wanted her to grow up to be

[@m_e_nere]

@@Dragonkaiser20 yare yare..

[@Raharu95]

Was the first intro to the fight one where Lisa doesn't have Venus?

[@pawadox4958]

If Lisa doesent have Venus equiped and later equiped in battle, it still doesent work. She needs to have Venus equiped for the whole battle. Even if she is equiped to Venus at the start of the battle and you change her persona she still doesent get her stats changed. So she must be stuck with Venus for the entire fight.

[@joaolima7131]

@@pawadox4958 wait, you can change personas mid battle? I didn't know that, I thought you could only change them in the Velvet room

[@pawadox4958]

@@joaolima7131 You can change personas mid battle too, yeah.

[@pawadox4958]

@@joaolima7131 forgot to mention, you can change person while you are in the world map.

[@kain1799]

booo Jun is the one true answer in innocent sin. this is blasphemy!

[@eeyuup]

Personally, I prefer Lisa and Tatsuya together, but yeah Jun seems like the most appropriate response.

[@heyjoji1954]

Hmm I feel Maya is canon because considering she's the last person Tatsuya can kiss just makes sense if she's canon

[@oasisflurry9933]

I want the first official persona gay couple. WHY ATLUS?!

[@elinacarmina3050]

People can choose whoever they want. Deal with it. Just cuz TatsuJun is your favorite couple doesn't mean everyone else needs to pick it.

[@Moda-pf8wt]

@@elinacarmina3050 You're the toxic one. Don't you dare preach about allowing people choosing whoever they want when you yourself police people.

[@peacetownfrostserenity1700]

4:00 start

[@MohammadAhmad-sf6by]

How do you get venus i only have eros prime as her persona

[@servbot128]

When you were collecting the masks you have to make sure you collect every mask so get their ultimate persona, unfortunately if you already at this stage of the game it’s too late

[@egoshasha]

Buff master - *use agi* Bufula - I am a joke to you?

[@Bob.Roberts]

Hard mode boss seems pretty weak.

[@flapjackxl]

Wait....I thought her name was Lisa? I guess that was back when AtlusUSA was censorship heavy.

[@tiensimon1263]

her name is Lisa Silverman, that is her real name, Ginko is just what ekachi calls her but i guess the writers didn't like her much and kept that as her name even tho the characters call her Lisa

[@Azothic]

flapjackxl She is called Lisa, Ginko is a nickname Eikichi gave her based off her last name, Silverman. Gin meaning silver and ko being a feminine suffix

[@flapjackxl]

Azoth That makes sense. Thanks Shinji.

[@jubairhuq5281]

Tien Simon The same thing happens to Eikichi sometimes, as he’s referred to as Michel at different parts of the game

[@Kmkmkms]

@@jubairhuq5281 whos eikichi? dont you mean *UNDIE BOSS* ?????

[@BluShiGuy]

Hmmmmm

[@World_of_Worlds]

Hmmmmm

[@Splatboy0612]

Isn't she Lisa Silverman?

[@starfire6789]

Yes but ginko is her nickname

[@Splatboy0612]

@@starfire6789 ohhhh