Persona 3 and Death // Codex Entry

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Codex Entry

Codex Entry

7 жыл бұрын

more like meme-ento mori, amirite? haha death is certain
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@obviusthemaxim2509
@obviusthemaxim2509 7 жыл бұрын
P3 is one of those games hell, stories that make you re-evaluate you're entire existence and way of life and it's fucking beautiful
@alshrap7255
@alshrap7255 5 жыл бұрын
When I was about 16 I tried playing it,really liked the style and themes and shit never really got deep into what it all meant,played it about the midpoint and I got bored of all the grinding and just deleted it from my psp,I was much like akihiko back then training,studying and eating meat and being oblivious to the attention from girls haha. About 4 years later,when I was at an extreme low point in my life after constant battles and everyday struggles which amounted to failure and a bunch of other family issues and just a string of unlucky events ,I really didn't feel like living anymore at that point,much like people who suffer from the apathy syndrome in the game. But I just kept reading "carpe diem" and "memento mori" everywhere by some coincidence,and it hit me,I dusted off my psp re downloaded the game and started from scratch,after about 5 days of grinding and analysis of the story,I finished the game and came to the conclusion that life isn't about the outcome of the struggle,It isn't about just living enough to not be considered dead,there is no excuse for being stuck in the past and standing still in time ,awaiting death perhaps or even catalyzing its eventual arrival. There is no inherent meaning in life,we as individuals define what matters to us and its our duty to keep fighting against the odds,much like our great cast in P3 every single one of them faced a lot of tragedies they kept fighting even against the unbeatable opponent,Death itself. None of them stood in place,none of them just outright quit in this impending doom,they kept living as much as they could embracing that they will die eventually,we should embrace the existence of death much like our protagonist did,even tho he died,his death gave life to millions. All in all this is a game that cherishes life,and we will all eventually falter,the point is to keep moving on and burn your dread, and when you die,die knowing that you absolutely played all your cards,don't kill your inner self before you actually die or even worse don't take away your life just because it seems hopeless.
@reversal8250
@reversal8250 4 жыл бұрын
I'll tell ya this game (as stupid as it sounds) has changed the way I lived my life when I decided to put more thought into the themes surrounding this game and persona the franchise itself I was hit with a revelation, there has never been a piece of media that has made me re-evaluate my thoughts and feelings, the social links something so simple had given me a brand new perspective on how I should view and treat every person I meet. It's so beautiful it's strange that atlus has the unfortunate habit of milking the franchise but god when a persona game comes out they go all out researching everything for the games. Persona 3 will always be my favourite of the games as it changed my life in such a profound way.
@marsonic88
@marsonic88 7 жыл бұрын
i cry a lot with this video, persona 3 It's a game that saved my life
@marsonic88
@marsonic88 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video
@CodexEntry
@CodexEntry 7 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad you liked it. P3 means a lot to me as well and I hope I was able to do it justice.
@LunaticEyesInaba
@LunaticEyesInaba 7 жыл бұрын
This is why I've never quite agreed with the notion that this game is "depressing." Melancholy, bleak at times, dark - certainly these, but even with everything that happens in the game, it never struck me as feeling hopeless. Despite its focus on such a grim subject, it ultimately pushes you to look towards the brighter side of it, and to savor the time you have left instead of dreading over the brevity of it. There's so much more freedom to be had in that message than fear. As far as I'm concerned, the ending was perfect. Giving the player those last two days to see the school and the characters one last time, and then having the protagonist pass away peacefully in the arms of someone who because of him has learned how to live......it felt far more sweet than bitter.
@thegamerfe8751
@thegamerfe8751 2 жыл бұрын
It really depends on how you see it but you can look at it as hopeful, depressing or both and they all work.
@jrrthompson1996
@jrrthompson1996 5 жыл бұрын
"I once ran away from the god of dread and he chained me to despair. I will break the chain and run till I see the sunlight again." Woah. Talk about powerful lines. Can't believe I've listened to this song so many times without ever actually understanding those verses.
@Koda_Grey
@Koda_Grey 7 жыл бұрын
Wow. This actually made me cry. Such a beautiful and powerful analysis. Persona 3 is such a personal game to me. Thank you for putting those feelings into words. Persona 3 makes me remember, even cling to knowing, I will die someday. There is no need to rush it. Enjoy the time I have now. Make it count. Be someone people will remember. Once again. Thank you. I truly mean that.
@CodexEntry
@CodexEntry 7 жыл бұрын
Trying out some new stylistic choices. Not everything will be this bleak, but I think I'll be taking this approach to the look of the channel for a little while, though my writing will stay the same. Let me know what you guys think!
@Ayavaron
@Ayavaron 7 жыл бұрын
I sort of miss the border and graphics now that you mention it but also I didn't even notice this video was stylistically different-looking from the others til I saw you mention.
@CodexEntry
@CodexEntry 7 жыл бұрын
The border and graphics will make a return in the future, they just would have been really out of place with the dower tone of this particular vid. However, I am planning on doing full screened footage a lot more often for the time being.
@dcj991
@dcj991 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't plan on crying today God dammit. Great video
@GoDgenerationX
@GoDgenerationX 5 жыл бұрын
"Optimism masquerading as pessism." Never thought about it like that, but i love it. Great video.
@mes0gots0its
@mes0gots0its 7 жыл бұрын
This is a damn well-written and well-edited video. You deserve way more views and subscribers than you currently have.
@novakaiser7949
@novakaiser7949 5 жыл бұрын
When I first finished P3, I was upset at the ending but also at the reason why they chose that route. But with time and revisiting the game, I understood it's meaning. P3 wasn't meant to be all happy happy like P4 or P5 (I haven't finished 1 and 2 yet so I can't speak for those). The message was very clear: Cherish what you have while you can, and continue to cherish those memories even after they are gone. Atlus wanted to give the players a new look on happy endings. When you really think about it, THIS was the happiest ending they could have gotten. It caused another friend to die to get it, but all of humanity was spared and they get to remember him. They get to live on, cherishing their memories with him, but also to keep on living at their fullest for the same reason. While they all grief differently, they all come to the same end result: he saved them because he wanted them to live. With that in mind, the whole crew keep pushing forward to honor his wish. That, if I may say, is a beautiful ending and message of it's own. You don't NEED people to survive to get a happy ending, sometimes characters simply accepting reality and fully living endorsing it is more meaningful than "everyone survives and live happy together". Do I wish Minato/Makoto/MC would have lived? Yes, because I wish he would have gotten to enjoy life at it's fullest just like everyone, but I'm fine with his death because it represents something very meaningful in the long run.
@Frank_Erz
@Frank_Erz 7 жыл бұрын
I connected with P3MC more than any other character in any game. His death still pisses me off.
@Luke97action
@Luke97action 7 жыл бұрын
how do you connect to a character that never talks or show any emotion?
@Novakixx
@Novakixx 7 жыл бұрын
because the P3MC is essentially a blank slate that you fill out. you control his choices and actions. you are essentially connecting with yourself
@Luke97action
@Luke97action 6 жыл бұрын
shadowkixx hehe that's probably the most loner thing ever
@NaschAzure
@NaschAzure 4 жыл бұрын
@@Luke97action edgy
@legendarytat8278
@legendarytat8278 4 жыл бұрын
@@Luke97action Yeah it is.
@randomguy019
@randomguy019 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly want to hug you right now. I'm not going to front, P3 and P4 have become foundational parts of my worldview. A perspective built on finding the will to live by the fact that I live as well as doing what I can to help other people understand themselves do that I may better understand myself is something I owe almost entirely to these games. To see someone else express those thoughts brings me so much solace. Thank you.
@nicholasmorejon4856
@nicholasmorejon4856 6 жыл бұрын
Oh my god you get it. You seriously get it. I cried during this and the persona 4 equivalent. I actually I’m gonna be getting a Memento Mori Tattoo
@heerotomoe
@heerotomoe 7 жыл бұрын
This is genuinely the best analysis of Persona 3 I've ever seen or read, looking beyond the aesthetic to the core of what it wished to express. Fantastic.
@ArklarrsFlan
@ArklarrsFlan 7 жыл бұрын
Great content dude, seriously!
@bennybeck
@bennybeck 6 жыл бұрын
You just helped me perceive persona 3 on a level I didn't think could be perceived
@ScarHydreigon87
@ScarHydreigon87 5 жыл бұрын
This video helped me cope with the death of my grandmother. Thank you.
@jasonlawrence8516
@jasonlawrence8516 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. I have been bummed out a bit. I love P3 and I loved your video. Thank you.
@NegaKill13
@NegaKill13 7 жыл бұрын
I can tell this message is powerful...this Made me cry
@cry9297
@cry9297 4 жыл бұрын
Persona 3 is one of the things that completely changed my outlook on life :')
@dococarneiro3250
@dococarneiro3250 6 жыл бұрын
This video is so beautiful, thank you for your passionate work.
@KozukiOden7
@KozukiOden7 3 жыл бұрын
i really love this video. thank you.
@n64fan48
@n64fan48 3 жыл бұрын
Dude thanks for making this video!
@vinigmoura
@vinigmoura 2 жыл бұрын
My fav game of all time and a perfect analysis!! The way this game approaches death is unique!!
@KurosakiRuka
@KurosakiRuka 4 жыл бұрын
i'm such an Introvert, i had trauma since the 9 nith grade before that i would describe myself as Extravert. ut now i'm so desperate to connect to others but i simply cant. I dont know how you can just chit chat from nothing like my mothers as always do. And i do these conversations in my head all the time "what could have i done better, what shouldn't have said", are the questions that keep me wake at nigjht, and i would lov e to be that protagonists from that anime like naruto nd one piece ut i simpl and all i hear most of the time is from my family is why you so strange you need friends, and my friend is like "most pepole a bad influnce." and im right here trying my best to despretaly connect but torn apart bettween both side. I love my time aolone, but i also being aroun peaple - but than i think - why you said his now they thinking you strage. Afterall i just was trigered i a good sense when you said - say to the crush you like him - and thats what i did because i feel like missed oppurtunity is worst than not at all and i will regretet it. And i try to do my best, with that philosophy, the funniest part, when i was little and played persona 3 (english is not my languege) i thoutght the protagonist did realy fell asleep like it was written on the screen, But our time is really limited, and theres no time to regretbut only to ove forward i hope i cn emrace it someday and overcome my demons. But on this topis, could you make the wolrd ends with you viedeo?
@Andynubes1718
@Andynubes1718 4 жыл бұрын
This hits me hard
@T--------
@T-------- 4 ай бұрын
This is pretty sad, I can only hope things have improved for you now
@meh.....720
@meh.....720 5 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I've found this video it just shows people how great the game it and is an amazing retrospective.
@diegouemura
@diegouemura 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@TheCullenHarkins
@TheCullenHarkins 6 жыл бұрын
Persona 3 is my favorite game. This video was wonderful. Thank you
@TheCullenHarkins
@TheCullenHarkins 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! What a wonderful analysis
@dismaljupiter4030
@dismaljupiter4030 6 жыл бұрын
I hope nothing but the best for your channel man
@pallasathena7904
@pallasathena7904 5 жыл бұрын
This is probably the best or one of the best analyses of persona 3 I've seen. You did such a great job! P3 changed me as a person, and I don't think I would be the same had I not played it, it's a beautiful game that everyone should play. Even if it makes me cry every time.
@rexmon2592
@rexmon2592 4 жыл бұрын
watching this in 2020 and holy shit memories of you at the end made me tear up a little bit, 10/10 video man
@aeroclavier6074
@aeroclavier6074 3 жыл бұрын
The lyrics are so great as well, it's a such an amazing song for Aegis.
@KisaragiZeet
@KisaragiZeet 7 жыл бұрын
This is why P3 will be my favorite in the series. Fantastic video!
@Alexcreeper98
@Alexcreeper98 6 жыл бұрын
Your analysis is amazing, really. I love your point of view on the game and in my opinion you have said everything that could be said. Persona 3 will always be a precious game for me, as it helped me through depression helping me grow just as the main character did. Thanks a lot for this analysis, I really needed it
@SoysauceML
@SoysauceML 6 жыл бұрын
This has always been my favourite Persona game, because it impacted me the most. The ending song just adds to it with its lyrics.
@henrygarcia9982
@henrygarcia9982 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't expect to hear Have a Nice Life in a Persona video. Great analysis!
@Asgard314
@Asgard314 6 жыл бұрын
This was simply beautiful
@ChefKeef
@ChefKeef 6 жыл бұрын
This game is one of the greatest that I have ever played. Very good video btw
@skuli5526
@skuli5526 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Subscribed.
@secretscarlet8249
@secretscarlet8249 5 жыл бұрын
While I don't want the MC to die, you made a really great point that made me reevaluate things... Though I still don't want him to die. Oh well, dancing games it is!
@tee_toes
@tee_toes 6 жыл бұрын
Happy new year...
@kjriwoutube
@kjriwoutube 6 жыл бұрын
Best P3 Review I have ever seen
@povilasl5383
@povilasl5383 4 жыл бұрын
So I finished watching Persona 3 and immediately went to watch this video, now I have a lot to think about this is just so shocking like this is a great example on how you should live and see life, im just amazed, thank you for making the themes of this game alot clearer and easier to understand.
@ghosttrick2374
@ghosttrick2374 7 жыл бұрын
damn that was very good
@changomonobananero
@changomonobananero 7 жыл бұрын
thank you
@janusan89
@janusan89 7 жыл бұрын
I see persona 3, I click the link and - "Mentions Albert Camus and his essay about myth of Sisyphus" HOLY FUCKING SHIT HE'S MY FAVORITE WRITER OF ALL TIME, I even did a thesis on his works and "L'étranger" is my favorite book of all time.
@thehartkrusher
@thehartkrusher 5 жыл бұрын
damn was that a quick one before the eternal worm in the background , you have good taste in music my friend.
@Scourtlind
@Scourtlind 6 жыл бұрын
Oh my god that was beautiful.
@SHARDK2
@SHARDK2 5 жыл бұрын
I will burn my bread and make Thanatoast
@yy3sht040
@yy3sht040 3 жыл бұрын
When I saw the ending I was actually really happy. The message of the game really touched me and I decided that day that I would try to get closer to others or talk to my friends more. I haven’t actually made a lot of progress on that front but I’m optimistic.
@ThePlasmeticBrother
@ThePlasmeticBrother 6 жыл бұрын
I never fully grasped the message of this story consciously. I think I knew subconciously because becoming a nihilistic optimist would become a core belief I guess of mine shortly after I played this game. Its what keeps me moving in this unfair world. What makes life worth living in the end. Thanks for helping me understand that and understand myself a bit more.
@1superstick
@1superstick 6 жыл бұрын
Nice channel ya got here.
@theminimanx
@theminimanx 7 жыл бұрын
So I guess P3 Portable is the inferior version, what with nerfing the "tired" status and potentially allowing Shinjiro to surive. Don't have much else to say really, the video was excellent.
@CodexEntry
@CodexEntry 7 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say it's the 'inferior version' per say. It still get's the overwhelming majority of the themes across, and the FeMC route seems designed from the ground up to be more cheery and optimistic (hence the change in color palettes). Shinjiro potentially surviving doesn't put much of a dent in it imo due to A) Him still being out of the game no matter what, B) everyone still having to face his near death, which is still pretty traumatic on it's own, and C) Him being roundaboutly saved by the protags love, reinforcing how important it can be to care about those around you. Personally, I think P3P is the definitive version due to it's mechanical differences, massive amounts of quality extra content, and plentiful convenience features. However, if we're talking what version best gets across the theme it wants, it is FES, but only by a small margin. And I'm glad you enjoyed it
@theminimanx
@theminimanx 7 жыл бұрын
I wasn't 100% serious. If I ever play P3 again, it'll be the female route, if only because male party members get social links and the romances are optional. As for Shinjiro however, I don't agree with you there. Sure, in real life someone going into a coma would be a hugely traumatic experience. But this is a story, where Chekhov's gun is a thing. If someone enters a coma in a story, you can be pretty sure they'll wake up eventually. If not, why not kill them and remove the ambiguity? I know that train of thought only applies to the audience, but it does create a disconnect between them and the characters.
@lemonov3031
@lemonov3031 5 жыл бұрын
@@CodexEntry I would actually disagree with this point. P3P while kinda fixing the combat system completely erases all the non-dungeon 3D environments and anime cutscenes. It hurts the immersion and makes the game less enjoyable because of it. If talking about the definitive version of P3, there is none. Some things are better in P3P (the combat), some things are better in P3F (the story) and to this day Atlus never thought about combining them into one special version, while scrapping the female option (it will be really expensive and time consuming to add her to a full 3D game and she is fully non-canon to the main Persona timeline, according to P4G and spin-offs, and overall a really cheap gimmick to try to sell a PSP game), but adding HD graphics and gameplay overhauls. And hell, Atlus can actually make the Answer enjoyable if they wanted to. Anyway, P3F still stands as the best version to experience P3 for the first time, you can even mod party control into it actually, while P3P is the best to replay the game because you will be already familiar with the story butchered in this version. Good video anyway. Tho you'll probably never read it because it's a response to a year old comment.
@Reilly-K
@Reilly-K 3 жыл бұрын
An ending can be just as beautiful as the journey before it.
@cunkfucklyVEVO
@cunkfucklyVEVO 5 жыл бұрын
oh hell yeah is that Have A Nice Life in the background?
@melatonin8025
@melatonin8025 3 жыл бұрын
Literally had to pause my game to comment about the have a nice life music choice. Fucking amazing
@MisfortuneFeeva
@MisfortuneFeeva 5 жыл бұрын
This game saved my life
@georgefabars7218
@georgefabars7218 4 жыл бұрын
This game was a treat to me and my existential dread tainted heart
@470angel6
@470angel6 4 жыл бұрын
Finally a good explanation
@Gamer-qw3ll
@Gamer-qw3ll 3 жыл бұрын
Death is everywhere in P3 and the way of summoning a Persona is literally to accept the idea of death
@twangyflame0969
@twangyflame0969 4 жыл бұрын
I think the reason why I cried at seeing P3's ending is because I have the opposite view to the game, but the game put its message in such a poetic way that I couldn't help but accept the message it gave. I desire consequences and logic for everything around me. If I was to have a Shadow, like in P4, they would be a controlling and manipulative, but impulsive tyrant who demands to be heard by all. For me, Minato should have recieved some sort of reward for beating Nyx. He should have gotten the long and happy life of hero in my eyes. But then he died, which sort broke my world view. Now I realise that he did recieve his reward. That entire year was his reward for fighting. All of his friends that he made, all the experiences he had, all the glory he obtained in that time was his reward, and being able to die in the arms of Aigis. Even now, I can feel part of myself rebelling against my acception Minato's peaceful and sudden passing as the right thing. I don't I ever will accept P3's ending in its entirety because of how much I value life. Though I will cry tears of joy the message this game brings and chords it plays on the web of feelings tangled around my distorted heart.
@Mello-Nova
@Mello-Nova 4 жыл бұрын
Cool
@lazygambit5092
@lazygambit5092 6 жыл бұрын
I feel so moved
@JimmySentence
@JimmySentence 6 жыл бұрын
you absolutely deserve more subs. gotta patreon bro?
@CodexEntry
@CodexEntry 6 жыл бұрын
Yes I do! Right here: www.patreon.com/codexentry
@iriya5598
@iriya5598 7 жыл бұрын
What about the answer arc ? There are many things to think about.
@redseagaming7832
@redseagaming7832 7 жыл бұрын
my sister won't touch this because your character dies which is stupid.
@lpflowrider8619
@lpflowrider8619 5 жыл бұрын
Surely your sister is a cultured lady with great taste
@burnt_ramen9757
@burnt_ramen9757 4 жыл бұрын
alright I have a hard time deciding what's sadder, NieR or Persona 3, NieR made me cry the hardest but Persona 3 made me cry the most
@Ash-ws8lc
@Ash-ws8lc 6 жыл бұрын
I truly wish I could be immortal. Fuck dying, I wanna experience the future till the sun explodes.
@CodexEntry
@CodexEntry 6 жыл бұрын
Should be doable if you eat enough kale
@Lunatic89097
@Lunatic89097 6 жыл бұрын
Ash That's a fate worse than death.
@jumpingmoose5554
@jumpingmoose5554 3 жыл бұрын
Death wouldn't be scary if there was either paradise or nothing at the end of it. But hell is a legit reason to be afraid of death. Our deaths are inevitable, but they are also the most important days in our lives as well. As much as I like this game and the series, they don't give the answers we need and keep thinking about, even if we accept reality as is. Even the final boss said when man ate the fruit, his fate was sealed. The fruit that Adam and Eve ate was not of knowledge, but the knowledge of good and evil. Satan tempted Eve questioning God's words and telling her that they'd be like gods if they ate the fruit. After they ate the fruit, death and evil entered the world, and we're all born with a nature to sin and to have sinful thoughts. The Bible says that if we break one of God's laws, we're guilty of breaking them all. To go to heaven you have to be perfect or forgiven, no one can enter in by being good. The Bible also says that none are good and all fall short of the glory of God. It's difficult to talk about and hear how we're sinners/criminals in God's eyes, but there is a point to learning about that. Just like how there's a point to someone learning about a sickness they have, it's to use that bad news to introduce the medicine to them, aka the good news. The medicine/good news to our death is that God doesn't look down on us with hatred or disgust. He looks at us as his beautiful creation that bears his image, and can be adopted into his family to become his children. About 2000 years ago Jesus Christ came to this earth to be a sacrifice for our sins. Since God is just & holy, he needs to punish sin, otherwise he'd be corrupt. And since God is love he took that punishment in our place, even though we deserve it. Jesus said "it is finished" just before he died. That meant the debt that humanity owed for their sins against God and each other was fully paid for. One day Jesus will return and save his children and judge all the evil in this world, including the devil and his fallen angels. And he'll make a new heaven and new earth for us where we can live eternally and peacefully with God as our perfect king. To be saved, you must repent, which means to turn from your sins. Even if you may struggle with them in the future, you've commited to turning from them. Second, put your faith in Christ alone to get you into heaven and save you. Just like how you'd out your faith in a parachute to save you from a plane and not try to flap your arms. I thank you for reading what I had to say and I hope you seriously think about it. I know this stuff isn't what we wanna talk about or hear, but I had to share it because I care about you guys and your eternities. God bless you all.
@SoysauceML
@SoysauceML 3 жыл бұрын
I want to make Chinese captions for this video, and wonder if it's okay.
@makotoyuki345
@makotoyuki345 4 жыл бұрын
Hey there
@cosmickook
@cosmickook 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful take-away from a great game.
@TheMatthewkastens
@TheMatthewkastens 5 жыл бұрын
What’s the easiest way to get ahold of this game?
@fortello7219
@fortello7219 6 жыл бұрын
They really should have framed the game around the character being terminally ill. Perhaps not in the begining, but before the twist. At the very least it would explain his dreary behavior in the beginning. (And contrast well with the female protag who lives life exactly like she's living on a short timer.)
@KurosakiRuka
@KurosakiRuka 5 жыл бұрын
spoilers for red dead redemption 2 the knowledge of dead and acepting i, and to do of the time you still have the most also aplies at arthur
@raeyomolera6947
@raeyomolera6947 7 жыл бұрын
Watch this and knowing that P3Dance is coming is making me sad. I feel like P3D will just destroy the whole theme of P3
@raeyomolera6947
@raeyomolera6947 6 жыл бұрын
it better be, I'm still waiting for elizabeths arc
@evanschmidt5562
@evanschmidt5562 4 жыл бұрын
as a christian, i think death should be looked forward to, because it represents the reunification with God, and that’s the best thing ever. The game is insanely deep
@shiftsomemore
@shiftsomemore 3 жыл бұрын
This game is so boring.
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