Persona 3 Reload - 4K 60FPS with Ray Tracing on PS5/Series X - Digital Foundry Tech Review

[@silokhawk]

I'm glad the look of the dorms was mentioned. Game looks great but so far my biggest hang up is how bright and flat the dorm is unlike the moodiness of the original.

[@pedrobrazon6610]

Here's hoping modders manage to improve the visual presentation:)

[@FuzzyDlop]

The hole game is way too bright and doesn't capture the dark, emo and depressing tone of Persona 3. It looks and feels wrong and not like Persona 3. It's not just the dorms.

[@frankmarano1118]

​@@pedrobrazon6610the only issue with that is that it's not gonna help anyone on console. Here's hoping Atlus actually pays attention & patches the lighting. Doesn't seem like too giant of a task to fix

[@cirmothe9]

Try lowering the background brightness in settings to 25%. I think it helps. The default is just gosh darn high.

[@cooltwittertag]

​@@FuzzyDlopPersona 3 isnt a game thats just all gloomy and depression. If you think thats the theme, you dont understand the game.

[@cube2fox]

The calendar and flip phone is a nice touch. It's rare for games (or books or movies) to take place in a specific year in the recent past, like 2009. That's mostly left ambiguous, which makes everything seem less real in a way.

[@Lordilucas12]

it's funny because the original also took place in 2009, but back then it was the near future (Persona 4 did this too, which takes place in 2011, and is also likely why persona 5's calendar perfectly lines up with the calendar for 2016, since that game was meant to come out in 2014.)

[@GeekyDud]

So happy to see you guys cover this! I'm also shocked it is using RT but that's a welcome surprise!

[@AL2009man]

I'm surprised that the PC Version omitted Ray Tracing toggle. But at least we can still find a way to forcefully enable it. Edit: scratch that; PC Version actually has RT Reflections, it's just that the way *how* they handle Reflection Settings is entirely based on whenever or not it support DirectX Ray Tracing or not, if it doesn't do RT: then it'll use screen space reflections instead. This is unlike how most games handle their Ray Trading settings, where it's a separate toggle. That; having the ability to force UE4's Anti-Aliasing system via .ini files.

[@lgolem09l]

And it is using it in a very stylish way that screenspace just couldn't do, not just for the sake of it.

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

Why would they do it like that lol, I mean it's obviously not demanding ray tracing at all but people on the very weakest rtx cards like the 3050 or 2060 might face a few difficulties.​@@AL2009man

[@lassesuurmunne8340]

It's beautiful. I have FES on PS2 and playing it a bit on PS5 today felt amazing. Something as simple as seeing the cherry blossoms through the window of your classroom had such a mood to it. This entry is super long and originally I only made it about halfway so it's kinda cool playing it now. It's finally time to play all the way through. I was enjoying just listening to the soundtrack today as well. Thanks for covering this one! loved the video!

[@cosmicgamingunlimited]

“What reflection technique do you use?” “Yes”

[@XiLock_Alotx]

😂😂😂😂

[@CakewalkingTortokhod]

Thanks for pointing out that daily life environments looked WAY better in the original game! It drove me insane in the previews how much they dropped the ball here, especially with the dorm since it's the place you're hanging around the most.

[@walter4180]

let's not get hasty, not all of the environments look better in the OG The dorm and parts of the night area I'd agree with though if anything I always found the dorm looked a bit too dismal in the OG, but I'm not going to excuse the complete opposite issue in reload

[@jackjohnson8305]

Yeah the dorm looks garbage, modders please save us.

[@Lyoko42o]

Whats so bad about the dorm? 😅 legit asking ​@jackjohnson8305

[@STATICandCO]

@@Lyoko42o just look at the comparisons at 7:52 the lighting is so flat in reload it takes away from the atmosphere

[@jackjohnson8305]

@@Lyoko42o Watch the video.

[@Rhodochrone]

17:31 The lighting in this cafe is so much better than in the Dorms. Makes me think it might actually be patchable. I really hope so...

[@RegalPixelKing]

I did not expect Ray Tracing in any way, so that's a neat surprise. Although it is used very sparingly, it seems to have solid implementation. For PC though it's odd that there is no option to turn Ray Tracing on or off though. That means people with older cards without proper RT cores will need to play the game without any reflections what-so-ever. Hopefully an update can fix that along with adding proper AO to the dorm.

[@Хорошийигровойканал]

its ssr for non rt cards

[@carlosortiz8764]

In that cases it will probably be like the avatar game, that uses software RT for those cards

[@Labib-dw1lk]

It uses SSR as fallback

[@soulreaperx7x]

I have a 6800 xt so it should work more than perfect fine but I'm curious to also try it on my 1080 ti. No RT cores at all so wonder if performance will tank to unplayable framerates.

[@MLWJ1993]

You don't really "need" RT cores to do RT. It'll just be disproportionately expensive to render... Now I'm sure it'll probably just fallback to SSR with a GPU that doesn't support hardware accelerated RT to not drop into 30fps territory for even a 1080Ti.

[@lssjgaming1599]

I do kinda prefer some of the colors of the original with the more muted tones, but the presentation overall with the menus and everything is so sleek

[@skullcandy14785]

Its soo damn fresh it hurts (the good kind)

[@xtzyshuadog]

You're allowed to like and dislike parts of the same game. The colors in the overworld dorm are lacking, AND the UI is crisp and sleek.

[@jacopom.7477]

The character design of the original persona 3 is so much better

[@Spewa-em8cm]

My god the lighting is so inconsistent, its like separate teams worked on Tarturus and the overworld. What happened?

[@MrMetalforever5]

Yeah why isn’t the entire game just lit the exact same the entire time?

[@Spewa-em8cm]

@@MrMetalforever5 OK obviously I was referring to the lighting quality and not the lighting itself.

[@SerdceDanko]

​@@Spewa-em8cm I hate day scenes, especially at school, it's too bright and washed out.

[@lukelmaooooo]

@@MrMetalforever5hope ur okay man

[@mhjmstultiens]

That UI is extremely stylish. I believe many devs can learn from this.

[@talesoflight2024]

The last few Persona games have extremely stylish UI

[@RubMySweatyThighs]

Ehhh it just seems like they are just replicating Persona 5's

[@HatMachine]

@@RubMySweatyThighs They've been iterating on a lot of the same UI language since P3. Still, I think each games UI is different enough in the details to be fresh. Plus the blue and white color scheme is a lot easier on the eyes than P5's red and black was :)

[@RubMySweatyThighs]

Its pretty obvious to see Atlus takes the P5 UI and push into this game and especially in their next game Metaphor, I get it but it to me it seems like they just took that asthetic and applied P3's color scheme @@HatMachine

[@MontySlython]

@@RubMySweatyThighsI disagree entirely, P3R UI gives a completely different feeling than P5s does

[@imoutocompalex]

Interesting how they remove the "2009" mention from the dialogue with the teacher since the game is still set in 2009 on the calendar.

[@eunaoseibrother467]

The HUD for this game rules.

[@hexpix]

yeah but honestly it's disappointing that some remade animated cutscenes are replaced by worse looking 3d scene. like egh I know it's cost reduction but this remake is pricy why would they do that

[@dirtydirtsgt4751]

​@hexpix it's definitely not cost reduction when less important cutscenes are 2d animated while important ones are 3d I feel like they just wanna show off the animations and models. Besides, one of the best scenes in the game is now a beautiful 3d cutscene instead of a simple convo like the original game

[@kunairuto]

I put off playing P3 on an emulator in hope of there being an official PC port, then I put off the port once it was announced that it was getting an actual remake. In all, I've probably been waiting over 5 years to play P3, and the wait is almost over!!

[@kierenbuckley370]

the original Persona 3 still has a place in my heart

[@soldatheero]

I havnt never played these games, not sure if I would actually be able to enjoy them although im extremely tempted based on all the high praise

[@Rosa_Canina]

And it will always be a great game. With the changes (FES, working around AI, the fatigue system) it will always be an option to experience this story. This version, more than every other game IMO, doesn't feel like a replacement, but like another take. More similar to a Royal/Golden Update than an actual replacement. The original still stands and will so forever.

[@johananj.j8003]

@@soldatheero If you're into JRPGs, then this game is great. But if turn-based RPGs aren't your thing, then it's better to avoid this game.

[@discojoe3]

Yeah right. You probably never played it.

[@JuntaRevan]

​@@soldatheero1 and 2 won't make you feel like a degenerate weeb like 3, 4, and 5

[@scohol12]

The dormitory looks really disappointing. Not sure what they were thinking when they made that

[@ma.2089]

I get they wanted to make it warm and inviting to contrast it with what happens when they’re not in the dorms. But they went about it in the wrong way, since shadows can still make something appear inviting.

[@mlgcactus1035]

Atlas just can't do something 100% right?

[@scohol12]

@@ma.2089 I think it will be corrected with mods pretty quick since it's an UE4 game

[@senchoupuck6660]

​@@scohol12that's great and all, but how the fuck have we gotten to the point where we have to ask modders to fix basic, fundamental shit like "area actually having shadows"

[@atomickaiser1934]

​@@senchoupuck6660To make matters worse console users are screwed if atlus doesn't fix it.

[@James-gj8rn]

It's awesome to see you guys cover a Persona game again, I really can't wait to play this, i even pre-ordered the Aigis Edition (the first Collector's Edition i've bought in years) Great stuff Oliver

[@Monafide3305]

Same to all of this, I can't wait for mine to ship!

[@MoonSarito]

It would be cool to see a comparison with the PS4 version too, I was curious to see how the PS4 Pro version compared to the Series S.

[@xtzyshuadog]

When you consider all the *pros and cons together, it's a rollercoaster:* A boring looking dormitory area, a bustling beautiful RT-reflection mall area, procedurally generated dungeons with no complex challenge, but beautiful UI while in those dungeons. A dance club with lots of people, but those people aren't actually dancing. The same story as before, but without the female protagonist storyline and separate character interactions that come with that. Wonderful voice acting and soundtrack still, and solid 60 FPS and 4k resolution, except on Series S where you get 1080p and no RT.

[@mlgcactus1035]

The most ATLAS game ATLAS have released

[@adams3560]

It improved in most ways I think, but not all.

[@SH1NK1R01]

People act like the femc was ever more then a one off. They literally NEVER did that again and have refused to mention her in anything that wasn’t anniversary type media. She wasn’t even implemented all that well as most of her unique scenes had tons of typos caused by the patchwork scramble to make her make sense. In exchange they made completely new linked episodes for the guy characters. You are just gonna have to get over that. There was no feasible way to do that again. Because it wasn’t feasible even when they did it the first time. She also wasn’t in the original game. Only the portable version that was just menus outside of Tartarus.

[@Nolasco.]

Loved persona 3 fes for the ps2, it's gonna be great to revisit the world with a new paint job 😊 Thanks Oliver 😊👍🏼

[@SimonM7TV]

wow Olie! amazing glowup on the voiceover! you sound way more relaxed and natural and the cadence is so dynamic now! I haven't even gotten anywhere in the video yet but the difference really jumped out! that's so cool to hear! ❤✨

[@osricen]

Fair enough. Hopefully ATLUS themselves work on a patch that improves the lighting.

[@andr0zzsenpai]

I doubt it, it looks intentional to me.

[@STATICandCO]

Man I feel like I can never buy a game on release these days because I'm always waiting for a patch to fix something

[@jackjohnson8305]

Atlus don't patch their games except in very rare situations.

[@FuzzyDlop]

@ttg889 And it's dogshit. It ruins the feel, tone and atmosphere of what Persona 3 really is, which has also been pointed out in this very video you're commenting on. This is a gross error and something that needs to fixed ASAP. It's as bad as a game breaking bug, not something that can be left there. This ruins Persona 3. Period.

[@osricen]

@ttg889 Did you work on the lighting...? If not and you're getting that triggered, you're too fragile for your own good.

[@GameRockPlay]

I've been waiting for this (both P3R and DF's Review)

[@FSAPOJake]

Ray tracing, huh? That's unexpected. Definitely looking forward to playing this. I love the original, and thought the Portable port from last year was disappointing and ruined the presentation of the original. And I don't just mean visuals.

[@mmd3585]

The Portable was a port originally for the PSP, not intended to be released on PC. They probably chose it over FES or the original because of the female protagonist option (which is absent here)

[@FSAPOJake]

@@mmd3585 They chose it because they lost the source code to FES, and P was already set up for widescreen while FES wasn't.

[@crestofhonor2349]

@@mmd3585 And other little QoL changes in portable as well. Portable also added the ability to have non AI controlled allies as well as other changes

[@majikalmcmuffin6258]

I'm all here for current gen games prioritizing 4k 60 in their development and asset development so long as it fits their aesthetic and goals. not everything needs to push beyond what's possible instead of working within the pretty lenient bounds of these great consoles (and maybe even get a good resolve on series s)

[@carlosnascimento9269]

Love that DF is covering Persona. The ray tracing sure is unexpected lol. I can't wait to play this on the OLED Deck. Oliver, you are the man. Please never leave DF 😁

[@terrabits]

The RT features feels like Atlus is experimenting with it for their next projects, so it makes sense they're using it sparringly on this remake, instead of on a new brand game with higher market stakes (and visual quality expectations). Similar from what FromSoft did in Elden Ring, adding RT post launch to see how it integrates in their tech stack.

[@HoudiniFontmeister]

More excited than ever now that 4K/60 with RT is confirmed. I was afraid they would mess up somewhere with it. But seeing this has me ecstatic

[@Asgartinus]

4k 60fps on console is very cool 😎

[@GameslordXY]

Given the graphics, it should probably be 4K120 or so.

[@strelitzia669]

Yeah with mobile game level graphics

[@peace4myheart]

My favorite persona when I was a kid. Didn't beat it bc it was way too hard at the end. Can't wait to play it again. Hopefully I can beat it this time.

[@WackNoir]

you have to now

[@eucri]

I believe in you. You can do it!

[@LandoJC0451]

I love Atlus' art direction, but I swear it's like in their minds they're always making a PS2 game. You can have great anime style art and beautifully rendered/lit environments. I'm still waiting for the day that Asia based studios actually utilize the technology resting at their fingertips especially studios that have been around as long as Atlus have.

[@LandoJC0451]

OMG ZERO ANTI ALIASING WTF ARE THEY DOING?! It's UE4 even if the devs thought TAA ruined the image at least have FXAA or SMAA. Non 4k UI elements too but they implemented ray traced reflections I just don't understand the thought process.

[@MLWJ1993]

​@@LandoJC0451they could've even done a HQ4X filter, that would work reasonably well for these rather flat shaded surfaces & provide some anti aliasing even though it's usually applied to pixelart.

[@Picxalate]

Final Fantasy 7 Remake, Final Fantasy 16, and Tales of Arise are good examples of older Japanese game devs using current tech to a high level. I'd check out GranBlue Fantasy Relink as well.

[@RubMySweatyThighs]

Its weird how Atlus works and their practices

[@dmytrosoboliev935]

Final fantasy series has pretty much one of the best graphics in industry since FF7 ( and their CGI always was in top-3). Same about Capcom and Resident evil, Konami and Metal gear. Other developers - yeah, i agree

[@CronoWing]

I feel like Persona's user interface design can not be praised enough, it's so beautiful.

[@Torso6131]

Man, I'm so excited for this. Persona 3 FES was hugely important to me at the time. Shocked it has RT, but I hope they address the lighting of the dorm at the very least.

[@blueskythlikesclouds]

i really wonder wtf happened with the overworld, tartarus looks so good while overworld is such a hit or miss

[@Skylancer727]

The dev team likely got really burned working on Persona 5. That game took over 7 years to make and the detail definitely cut into that. Imagine how difficult it was to make it run on the PS3 after adding all that junk to it. There's also always the possibility that was one time planned for Switch. But I think being burned on the detail might be the biggest one similar to Sonic Team and Sonic Unleashed. Sonic Unleashed is still considered by many the highest quality Sonic game in details, graphics, and story. There really hasn't been anything close likely because of how much that game cost to make vs return on investment.

[@MEICKK]

​@@Skylancer727what the hell are you talking about?

[@deinnachname6374]

​@@Skylancer727What does this have to do with P3? Thats a new project. Also long running projects aren't unusual.

[@Kimarnic]

Probably less budget, they're making Metaphor

[@caseyjohnston1504]

IIRC, the person who initially leaked Persona 3 Reload said that 3R is a smaller budget project to train P studio on using UE for Persona 6. This part is just my thinking, but I wouldn't be suprised if many of the overworlds use the original PS2 Overworld models as a basis, and then were built on top of.

[@gachatookthekids]

The dorm lighting is my one gripe with the remake and I'm glad people are pointing it out. It's just such a wild choice by Atlus

[@ramiking745]

Some of the artistic choices look a bit off for Persona 3 with some aspects given a more brighter tone. I also kind of wish that they used more animated cutscenes rather than go with what they did with Persona 5 by using more in-engine cutscenes. These are just my opinions and I'm pretty sure that my opinions might change once I do play the remake on Friday.

[@benjaminamouroux8395]

Glad you’re keeping an open mind

[@ramiking745]

@@benjaminamouroux8395 I think it was easier for me to keep an open mind as someone who only got into the Persona series about 5 years ago.

[@ma.2089]

Yeah they made things too bright during the day/dorm and the in game cutscenes kinda lack the impact of the original ones due to Storyboarding and sound design differences.

[@benjaminamouroux8395]

@@ramiking745 Better late than never! Salute! 🫡

[@dhgmrz17]

Those anime style cutscenes in Reload look superb, I agree that I would have loved to see more of those over in-game cutscenes.

[@AlmostLikeHuman]

I gotta say, other than the chibi-style character models, I prefer the look of the original. At least in the comparisons used here, I haven't actually played either version.

[@Jenaxu]

Oliver x Persona, I've been waiting for this 😁 s/o to you and Jon for satiating our JRPG needs!

[@Skylancer727]

I don't know if I'd call those old designs chibi styled, I think they are just incredibly low poly. Strange to be at a point today where the 3D models are honestly more detailed than the 2D cutouts. That was kinda the whole point of them back in the day.

[@MrAw3sum]

The head in proportion to the body is qaaay different if you look at the comparison

[@MrAw3sum]

*way different

[@Skylancer727]

@@MrAw3sum I think it's just a slightly different artistic look. They made all the characters as a whole look slimmer and taller. I think it's more likely because the artists for 5 worked on this one. You can even see how the old animations for 3 had the characters shorter and thicker.

[@Mako2401]

I played this game on an emulator feels like ages ago, never finished it, can't wait to play it now. Glad to hewr its a good remake.

[@mlgcactus1035]

Mhhheeeeeee it could be better

[@AngelPerez-sh9wk]

You need to go play Persona 3 FES bro

[@Shantara11]

Would be nice to see a Steam Deck performance video. P3 seems like a perfect Deck game

[@MisterNyte]

The steam store page does say its verified so im hoping it looks and runs well

[@GrimAbstract]

@@MisterNytedon’t get to excited, remnant 2 use to be a verified title too on launch haha.

[@xtr.7662]

​@@GrimAbstractwell for comparison that game runs at 720p on series x/ps5 and doesnt even hit a constant 60fps while this one is 4k 60 with rt on both its obvious that this is gonna run well its slightly more intensive than p5 royal

[@GrimAbstract]

@@xtr.7662 I’m not comparing the game, I am saying to not be reliant on the verified part of the steam game process as that does not mean it runs well.

[@dhgmrz17]

@@GrimAbstract The only graphics setting in the game that looks to be intensive is the RT reflections, turning those off should allow the game to run pretty smoothly I am assuming.

[@bruskydu]

I'm excited to play this. I'll be mainly playing on Steam Deck so I can play on the go.

[@thatguy4632]

Great video as always. Love what you all do at DF.

[@mariobarbara2893]

Will you be covering the last-gen versions as well? Great video btw, and I was shocked they were using RT

[@soulreaperx7x]

I assume last gen is on par with the series S and more than likely a 30 fps cap.

[@mariobarbara2893]

@@soulreaperx7x I would assume that as well, but still very much interested in taking a look at it

[@ma.2089]

I hope ATLUS does what you recommended cuz that lighting is the biggest issue I have with the game’s environments. And I was seriously holding onto hope they’d fix it before release, cuz it seemed like an easy fix.

[@CarlizWang]

Motion blur only when sprinting is such an underrated feature, every game should have it.

[@topshelfgaming9093]

Cant wait for this to drop I'm getting retro feels now grabbing it again! I preordered the collectors edition back in the day for ps2.. I'll grab this on my Series X for sure! It does look fantastic!? even with the minor gripes aside.. the original though?.. I'll always keep up in my collection, one of my favorite Persona titles in the series is P3.. even though P4 and P5 vastly expand the concept of the Persona universe and gameplay to the point that they are clearly more superior games.... but P3 just has a special spot for me as a wicked game in general and an all around classic dungeon crawler jrpg!

[@RadDude69X]

11:25 when you're stuck in the Dark Hour but it's not the Dark Hour

[@MattAndre24]

Imagine thinking "Dark Hour" means "player shouldn't be allowed to see things on the screen at all"...

[@martibanez6320]

Digital Foundry's video game reviews and essays are awesome. worth watching 👌🔥💯

[@allanl1465]

Any comments on the PS4 version? Or should we expect this to be similar to the Series S? Thank you for the great video!

[@sircartier2723]

Normally its not on par with series s

[@chasesmay7237]

Atlus has the best ui team in the business. They figured out how to incorporate the ui into turn based gameplay to keep things fresh. I haven’t loved every iteration but they always impress

[@mandrews6282]

Been on a kick clearing out my deeper backlog the past 6 months. Played through all 12 Yakuza/spinoff titles, all 6 Devil May Cry entries, Monster Hunter World and Rise, and after Infinite Wealth I plan on diving into the Persona series finally with the release of Persona 3 Reload. Looking forward to this one and picked up 5 Royal and 4 Golden on the recent sale as well.

[@GenerationZ313]

I have to ask, how did you complete those games without burning out?

[@mandrews6282]

@@GenerationZ313 DMC has relatively short campaigns and they’re all different enough that I had a blast playing through them. I was surprised I didn’t get burnout with the RGG library, and initially had only planned on playing Yakuza LAD and Man Who Erased His Name leading up to Infinite Wealth just to have Ichiban’s saga. But I ended up loving the format and stories within those games so much I just kept playing. The main stories especially are really compelling and since they carry over somewhat into the next game, I always wanted to see where it went next. It prob helped that I only did most, but not all, substories, a couple mini games, and the main story. I generally skipped most larger mini games like caberet club, real estate, Ichiban Confections, and others as they weren’t really my thing. For Monster Hunter, I listen to a lot of podcasts and once I was in a groove it was a great game to play while listening to something so it worked out. Although I’m actually not fully done with those. I played the main 2 games, but still haven’t delved into Sunbreak or Iceborne. Will get into those next time I have a lull in releases.

[@xadek821]

1:46 yes my queen

[@ghostofhallownest5300]

One of my favorite rpgs ever and my favorite Persona ever. So glad they bought 3 back I had FES the Answer back in the day and I am hyped to see this classic go hard in the present day

[@mattmanley7118]

I’m eager to play as I’ve never played the original and P5 Royal is what really popularized it in the West

[@ghostxplatinum]

It's great to see Persona 3 be brought into the modern age with updated visuals and graphics similar to P5's art style.

[@RoyKoopaling]

Persona 3 was absolutely fine. I don’t know why people want Persona 3 to look like Persona 5. The cool thing about Persona is that each entry felt unique.

[@Ryzen-gh1en]

@@RoyKoopaling i never played persona 3, i played persona 4 almost 8-9 months back and i was depressed over months, do you think the story and overall game is as good as persona 4 ?

[@RoyKoopaling]

@@Ryzen-gh1en Persona 3 is a great game and it has a completely unique vibe to it, from the story, to the characters, to the aesthetic, to the very tone of the game itself. I can’t speak for Reload, which from screenshots seems to be attempting to make it look like Persona 5 as a way to modernise it. But Persona 3, whilst indeed dated, is definitely worth your time. Maybe Reload does maintain that uniqueness to it, I’m just not able to say personally. I hope it does. Persona 3 is also a lot harder than Persona 4 (especially harder than Persona 4 Golden). So yes, I think it is just as good in different ways. But if you do need like the more modern aspects of the Persona series, play 5 which is also just as good as 4 in its own ways.

[@otozm92]

@@RoyKoopaling The problem with OG Persona 3 is that you either have controllable party members and VN style in P3P, or traversable environments but no controllable party members in FES. there was no way of playing it as a complete experience

[@RoyKoopaling]

@@otozm92 I thought FES gave you controllable characters? Either way, this is a personal thing and I know it’s not popular, but I liked the idea that you didn’t control the other party members. I often wish they developed on that and made it like it’s own thing that evolved where the characters got better, etc, as their social links levelled up. I just thought it was immersive.

[@awdrifter3394]

Playing this on base PS4, it still is a huge upgrade from the PSP version that I've played many years ago.

[@fs19992009]

God I adore this fucking game. Never got to finish it in my psp, so this is just a dream come true.

[@noobbear1119]

The duality of man: when you have raytracing AND worse lighting than a 20 year old game.

[@mjziborich4491]

Worse?

[@Wobbothe3rd]

The places with worse lighting very obviously aren't using raytracing

[@xtr.7662]

​@@Wobbothe3rdit isnt using rtgi only reflections thats why

[@AbelMusa]

What would be that 20 yeat old game? The original on the PS2? How are you getting upvoted.

[@trickshotgamingtrickshotgaming]

@@AbelMusagame is trash and graphics are trash get over it

[@ChrononSyndrome]

Kind of surprised last gen systems aren’t covered in this video

[@TheDwarvenDefender]

The lighting in _Sporfoken_ didn't seem phenomenally bad to me from the footage given, but when I look at footage of the _Persona 3 RELOAD_ dormitory, I can't help but see the characters as floating. Also, I never played the original game, but the brightness levels and shadows of it in the footage shown here seem much more right, while the new dorm seems to have a more appealing use of color. Maybe an update could put it somewhere in-between and make everything "just right."

[@neelakandan6650]

Thank you for the coverage!

[@DennisMII]

Just finished a playthrough and 100% agree about the lighting, especially the interiors. It gives the environments such a sterile look compared to the dark, moody atmosphere of the original. Here’s hoping for an adjustment.

[@pudimy]

Please do a performance video on the PS4!!

[@xmaverickhunterkx]

Man, this looks so much better than I ever expected. I will have to buy it.

[@markusjohansson6245]

I love how the ui feels really snappy and responsive even with the animations. Normally stuff like that gets in the way of playing the game.

[@hundvd_7]

12:02 The way the bottom 2 coffins are lit are very different though

[@AxelDark100]

9:29 knowing ATLUS this will come in Persona 3 RE:Reload instead of a patch

[@vixtheexistent6390]

Lol, imagine they re release the game when the switch 2 happens and call it persona 3 reload portable

[@andr0zzsenpai]

I think the lighting is intentional, I personally have no issue with it. Neither with the "less busy" environments. The character's animation do look really weird to me though.

[@walter4180]

you know that's objectively ignorant lmfao@Ostrava_Of_Boletaria

[@colossusjak2]

Can u look at 7:53 and objectively say that? One looks like a global lit default scene in maya and the other looks like persona 3

[@colossusjak2]

Can u look at 7:53 and objectively say that? One looks like a global lit default scene in maya and the other looks like persona 3

[@crestofhonor2349]

It's not intentional. It looks too flat in some areas and much better in others. Better ambient shading would go a long way of helping pretty much all scenes

[@andr0zzsenpai]

@@colossusjak2 There is no such thing as "objectively", they treat it as something that needs to be "fixed", but in reality it's just different. I'm pretty sure that if they wanted it to look less plain, they would have done it.

[@svenbtb]

Are you going to compare the performance/visuals to the PS4 version too? Trying to decide if I need to wait to eventually get a PS5 or if the PS4 version looks/performs well enough to play now

[@Unexpectedstuff]

Same

[@TheJoaovicente]

I think you would only notice the difference in lighting if you have played the original. Since I haven't, everything looks great to me.

[@Rosa_Canina]

I rather have a 4k 60fps raytracing Game that oozes with style but has less complex geometry than a sub 1080p ai-upscaled 30fps "realistic" game. This game looks absolutely awesome to me.

[@RamblyBear]

After seeing Ray tracing enabled in Avatar Frontiers, it's quite surprising to see it dropped on the S in a game that definitely has a whole lot less going on in any scene than Avatar. A testiment I guess to how good Massive are, it's making me more excited for Star Wars Outlaws.

[@apostolos8734]

Imagine this game with RT lighting, it would look absolutely gorgeous.

[@lastchannel100]

There will be a Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth video?

[@xtr.7662]

Thats what im wondering i was expecting it

[@DieselJT]

The nightclub scene definitely looks strange without character movements.

[@HatMachine]

Yeah, that one's gotta be a bug. I expect they'll patch that sooner rather than later, since it kinda ruins the whole scene.

[@Atonam_real]

Could have hit a bit more than 1080p on the series s. But I won’t complain

[@SfinxVid]

Haven’t finished Persona 5 but absolutely enjoyed the time I had with that game few years ago. Can’t wait to dive into this one, especially since I see a lot of fans saying the characters and story is even better in 3

[@xikaryo6735]

I do think the original Persona 3 had better atmospheric lighting and wasn’t as overly bright, which fit the tone and setting of the game a lot better. It looks too “pretty” now, which isn’t a good fit for what Persona 3 was trying to do. It reminds me too much of Persona 4 now, which was very colorful but at least it made more sense for that one. P3 had a different and darker vibe. Also, looks like Xbox Series X version does drop frames in crowded mall areas.

[@Xen0gears515]

Strangely enough, P3 has a special place in my heart even though I've never finished the game. I remember playing this when I was going through a tough time in my life and this game provided me some comfort. I've never played the PS2 version but I did hear it is the recommended version vs the PSP. I'll definitely check this out.

[@zerorequiem42]

Your party was fully controllable in persona 3 FES. It was the main reason to buy FES at the time.

[@inkursion5868]

No they weren't controllable in FES, that feature was added in Persona 3 Portable

[@mjziborich4491]

Ahh I’m so excited for this

[@MRMADBARNEY]

Loved the original so for sure picking this up on Friday. A good blast from the past!

[@cwvc16]

Ive been waiting for this!

[@clorophilla]

I'd love to see how this game would run on Deck and last-gen consoles. No mention of them at all...

[@perlichtman1562]

It’s worth mentioning that Tartarus is to the Persona 3 games what mosf of Mementos is to the Persona 5 games, so in both cases they are procedural and devoid of puzzles. While there’s criticism to be leveled at Persona 3 Reload’s dungeons vs. Persona 5 Royal’s dungeons, if you are comparing like for like, that would be comparing P3R’s full moon missions to P5R’s palaces - where neither is procedurally generated but P5R’s are much more substantial. It’s been bizarre watching so many reviews compare Tartarus to palaces instead of comparing them to Mementos.

[@cwega2463]

not really true though? Tartarus IS the dungeon crawling segment of the game. it’s 95% of it. the full moon segments are mostly just a cutscene and a save room before a boss, and there’s like two or three instances where there’s a structured segment to play through before, but it never lasts longer than 5-10 minutes. P5’s bill IS the structured palaces. i’m Royal, there’s 9 of them. and each take anywhere from 3-6 hours to get through. AND then there’s the procedurally generated mementos too, as a side thing to do throughout the game. while both tartarus and mementos are huge collections of randomly generated floors, the complain is that in a modern perspective next to other games, that’s all P3 has, and it gets repetitive fast since there’s literally no change in gameplay for over 260 floors. mementos is not only much shorter (just over 100 floors), it’s also only going to be about 25% of your total dungeon crawling time in persons 5. the bulk are the much more interesting palaces, with more unique themes, music, enemies, puzzles, gameplay differences, level design, etc. it’s not really a flaw of the original game, since it came out so long ago it’s unfair to hold it to modern standards. but P3R could have at least tried to add more structured content, or just more variety into tartarus, but in the end it feels like the bare minimum.

[@ZS2802]

where is the like a dragon infinite wealth review?

[@Galafador]

the dorm lighting looks infinitely worse now wtf. hoping atlus would fix it or someone would make a mod for it

[@vexelghost]

Definitely one to get on PC during a sale for fan injected lighting then.

[@xerontokyo]

5:22 ATLUS and P-Studio use either Shin Megami Tensei III Nocturne's PS2 game engine for their PS2 games, or GFD engine an enhanced and internal Gamebryo (used in Catherine) based game engine for Persona 5, Persona 5 Royal and Persona Dancing games.

[@forrrrestjohncave]

As someone who had to pick which game to start the series with, I ultimately ended up choosing P4G as I was convinced out of playing P3 by multiple people (lack of party member control, it was older, not as much QOL, ect.). Now though, it seems like a lot of the issues I and others had comparing P3 to the later entries is pretty much gone so I am excited to try P3R. The absolute worst part about P4G for me is the horrible procedural dungeons, but at least the ones in P3R look better than the ones in P4G lol. It is a shame they couldn't have hand crafted them like the P5R ones.

[@Lock2002ful]

Yessssss!!! Where to play, was looking forward to this video. :D Edit: Well, that was something.. At least 4K 60 and a little bit of RT I guess. But man, the rest of the lighting and the 3D textures look so bland and ps2 era style. I guess the budget and their time was done after they did the character models? Definitely gonna play but only on gamepass PC. Also, as we know Atlus and everything SMT & Persona, there will be tons of ridiculously expensive DLC.

[@mischievouscouncelor6555]

Very excited for this one, as someone who prefers P3P over FES, it will be nice to have a 3D world to explore

[@tipsy634]

The ray tracing and the inability to fully disable it cauises the game to have major issues on steamdeck, where it was allegedly verified. I don't think it should be verified until this minor change is made. If it can't be made, that's crazy.

[@ThatNormalBunny]

Just turn off reflections? That's what controls raytracing and switches it to screen space reflections

[@tipsy634]

@@ThatNormalBunny This is not accurate, because while it turns off reflective ray tracing, the lights across the world still use ray tracing to cast shadows. This cannot be disabled with any sitting, including the .ini folder. You'll witness it if you go into the Velvet room or Tartarus after turning off Reflections, the game will tank so hard when you approach any kind of light source.

[@deleterguy]

I don't get why this game is 1080p on series s, I got a ps5 so it doesn't matter too much but I still think this game could've run 1440p with maybe dynamic resolution

[@Hiyooma]

I'm so excited to play this Friday I recently beat P4 with all the endings and my god I loved the story. I was told by my friends I personally would like the darker story from P3. Which has got me even more excited, also maybe this is a hot take but P5 Wasn't my cup of tea. I felt the story was all over the place and the dungeons while unique felt very tedious if you are going in blind without a guide. I think I actually prefer a grind with a straight forward path and goal so I think I'll unironically enjoy Tartarus.

[@takehirolol5962]

Yes, the game we old Persona and SMT players helped to revive this franshise. Preordered the PS2 original release back then on Amazon.

[@perfectlyslicedegg3348]

I hope P4 gets a remake in this style too.

[@googflax]

Any info on the loading times?

[@null_subject]

Yeah, the technology is obviously more advanced, but artistically, this release is a huge step back. Ruined atmosphere, stylistic mismatches, inferior or missing cutscenes, censorship, missing content, etc. I'm not one of those purist who hates every remake, and I don't have anything against this one, but it's so obvious that this isn't the product of love and care that the original release was.