Personal Protection: Laugo Alien 9x19mm Pistol vs IWI 941R Jericho

[@12ealDealOfficial]

Paul shooting a Jericho AND an Alien!? Paul is well on his way to being a Space Cowboy.

[@Ben-Wah]

Beats being the Gangster of Love...

[@easyfiveOsink]

Is that a Cowboy Bebop reference?

[@andrewamann2821]

​@@easyfiveOsinkI suppose that depends on who might call Paul "Maurice."

[@Ni999]

​@@easyfiveOsink Yeah, Spike carried a Jericho 941.

[@darksu6947]

​@@andrewamann2821 He's not a smoker, but he is a bit of a joker.

[@gameragodzilla]

Never thought I’d see Paul examining this pistol. This should be an interesting watch.

[@wesleygay8918]

Right? This is awesome 😎

[@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28]

I love my Laugo Alien, and it is one of my favorite handguns in my collection.

[@ArizonaAstraLLC]

Just clicked in, I'm so excited for this video

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

It's nice to see the Jericho get some more attention.

[@allanbranson]

I thought the same thing.

[@daygonwatkins2282]

I had no idea he tested this pistol. Great Job, Paul! I’m sure I can speak for everyone in saying that we miss you very much.

[@michaelmcatee221]

Paul is so modest when he points to himself as an "average shooter" I feel like saying "No Paul, we have all seen you shoot through the years and you sir are not average." Anybody remember the demonstration covering shooting guns out of people's hands? That was good shooting!

[@rdrrr]

At one point Paul felt he needed to demonstrate his credentials and dumped a whole damn box worth of shooting competition medals on the table. I think Paul just likes to keep himself humble and not rest on his laurels. I think it's fair to put him in the 95th percentile of shooters (that is, in the top 5% by ability).

[@Hjerte_Verke]

@@rdrrr Not only a box of medals but stacks of plaques and upright trophies, the gold cup kind, if you've seen what he says is "most" of the collection. Still he is average compared to people who can shoot out the entirety of the ace from an Ace of Spades ♤

[@motorpsykler]

I’m most jealous of the way he handles a pump shotgun.

[@phlogistanjones2722]

@@Hjerte_Verke At the shooting gallery back in ye olden days I could do a fair job of that with the automatic bb air guns they had.... I would STILL not rate myself within hollerin' distance of Mr. Harrell... maybe that is a different scale. :) CHEERS.

[@dscrappygolani7981]

Yup....an average shooter he's not 😂 .... Mr Harrell is an exceptional shooter.

[@DACFalloutRanger]

Holy hell, did not expect Paul to get his hands on an Alien. Spacegun episode!

[@arthurchadwell9267]

I recommend it as the side arm for Space Force!

[@PapaRogue]

“See you later Space Cowboy!” May you rest easy Paul.😔

[@leokimvideo]

Nice shooting on the rapid fire against 3 targets even if you did have an Alien in the ranks

[@frankhinkle5772]

I do like that drill of one shot and transitioning to another target. Back and forth, raising and lowering the sights to find the target.

[@willo7734]

Every episode that Paul releases is a prize. In the end the real prize was the friends we made along the way.

[@harolde.lochleitnerjr.8006]

Well said.

[@ralegade7710]

Gaaay😂

[@markfergerson2145]

“This is not my Glock. There are many like it but this one is not mine.” Very interesting comparison. I think your takeaway nails it. It might give serious (read “rich”) competitors an edge but for the average (read “not rich”) shooter, not so much.

[@thekombatrealm6082]

Paul is such a great teacher. I've learned so much from him.

[@MichaelJenkins910]

This is one of the first resources I put in front of new shooters. He's got a real gift for making the material accessible without talking down to the audience.

[@co2gonzo]

​@@MichaelJenkins910 I agree...Paul is a wealth of knowledge and experience and it's with that, that I use his videos to educate my New Shooter Friends as Paul is far better at articulating the nuances of "The Gun" than I ever could.

[@Jengilis]

Word.

[@stealmysunshine]

I agree. I like his style and his realism. He is the epitome of the Quiet Professional

[@danielmacdonald8358]

His video on pump shotguns was instrumental in making me a better shooter with the pump shotgun.

[@repentnow1720]

Paul - Alien 9 owner here. My brother brought out his CZ Shadow2 and we did a Coke vs Pepsi taste test. Our very unscientific conclusions were that although the Alien 9 does indeed have a different recoil impulse than the CZS2, there was almost "Not enough difference to make a difference" and our groups with both contestants suggested the same. The slightly smaller grip of the Shadow2 fit my hand better, and his $1k CZ was (as you stated) $4K LESS than my Alien 9. I'll never sell it, but the point you made about getting something else and spending the additional $4k on ammo and training is 100% valid.

[@Neomalthusiano]

Diminishing returns. I once heard from a well-off guy who owned around eight high end pistols that the CZ shadow 2 was unbeatable in it's price tag and would leave little to be desired in performance against any other pistol. It was way before laugo, so I'm not comparing the two directly. Still, once you achieve what the Shadow 2 does, you need to start pouring a lot of money to get more performance. CZ has done it best to offer price-performance in the shadows, even getting to the point of designing a gun without a firing pin block. But that's so life. Up to a point, if we eschew high-end sport performance and focus only in mundane real life drills, a Taurus TS9 with no other modification than a polished firing pin, would do everything a Shadow 2 does, but weighting less, being less difficult to conceal and with the advantage of being drop safe. Unfortunately, due to a license deal, Taurus doesn't sell that pistol in North America, but that's a gun they could offer in the price range of a glock generation 5...

[@marshaul]

@@Neomalthusiano To quibble without disagreeing with your main point: the CZ Shadow 2 is perfectly drop safe in conditions 0 or 1. So just don't carry in condition 2.

[@jthrelf]

Paul one aspect you didn't mention for the rapid fire portion is the Alien was the first gun shot on that drill, by the end you were getting more and more warmed up. Great shooting!

[@iCatchLupin]

Hey Paul! I met you at Yardbirds a couple years ago, the tall girl who was with Elly. I have a Jericho 941R too! Really cool to see you compare it against the Alien, which I've been super curious about. Stay safe and have a great one!

[@PaulHarrell]

I remember you. I was very impressed with the Jericho.

[@AleV69692]

Tf a girl obsessed with the luftwaffe??

[@RedlegRay66]

Paul shooting a strangers Glock first is like having the Pope bless your rosary.

[@hondolane3125]

It always cracks me up when Paul says "We are trying to determine the accuracy that can be achieved with this pistol by the average shooter" .... while pointing to himself.

[@xVictorDavidx]

Over time Paul continues to show us with tangible facts that in the vast majority of comparisons between expensive equipment and equipment at common prices, the difference, if there is one, does not really justify the investment. As always thank you Paul!

[@phlogistanjones2722]

Most "really expensive guns" probably would not make any difference to the lower 90% - 95% of shooters as you point out. Convincing folks that spending that extra money on practice ammo and range time is a real hard pull. LOTS easier convincing Joe-Blo (and myself) that THIS HYEAR THINGY CAN MAKE YOU A WIZ BANG SHOOTER! Especially if it is cerakoted or tacti-cool or has nifty blinkin'-lites or the name "Dan Wesson" or "Ed Brown" on it. :) CHEERS!

[@kagyu1]

The Alien cost $4,000, the Glock costs $400. Accuracy the same. Even better that the Glock wasn’t even broken in. I’m a CZ guy but love my G19.

[@nottaexpert2690]

@@kagyu1 Then you should be pretty pleased to see the Jericho perform as well as it did.

[@Genesis23OPB]

i dont like how the alien comes apart, i prefer a cz shadow 2 instead

[@bewarethegreyghost]

"I don't think Paul Harrell knows how to miss" -Hoplopheil 2023

[@mikedillon6233]

I would love to be just as an average shooter as good as this guy!

[@Hjerte_Verke]

You too can be an average shooter like Paul, if you put in the time. . . . .

[@Sean--]

@@Hjerte_Verke time being a lifetime, will have to check the schedule if I can fit that in

[@guaporeturns9472]

You guys are so cringy🤦‍♂️

[@surfingtothestars]

@@Sean--lots of competition shooters dry fire daily. You don’t need to go to the range to dry fire

[@murderlesson101]

Im so happy hes kind of reviewing my favorite pistol out of the collection, jericho 941r specifically

[@arthurchadwell9267]

Thank you, John!

[@jonisrad1769]

You're welcome!

[@ExF1Guy]

Thanks for leaving the shooting segment in! Great video as always.

[@tedcollins4684]

Thank you for all your hard work. I enjoy your videos and usually learn something or gets me to think about something that I wasn't.

[@throwaway633]

Wonderful pistol for a wonderful shooter. Glad you got your hands on one Paul!

[@snakeskin777]

Never been this early to a video release. Thank you for the informative content Paul, we all love and appreciate it.

[@ReubenOaks84]

I can honestly say I would never expect to see Mr. Harrell shoot a Laugo Alien pistol but this was a great video and demonstration

[@almostontimehero5415]

Two space themed guns. One an alien, the other a Cowboy.

[@airgunfun4248]

I get the alien=space thing what's the cowboy? Just curious thanks

[@alexander1902]

@@airgunfun4248ask Maurice. Woo-hoo 🎶🎵

[@airgunfun4248]

@@alexander1902 I don't get it. I know the song but no connection

[@alexander1902]

@@airgunfun4248 Paul is just a cowboy since he’s a badass to us.

[@rexlr695]

@@airgunfun4248 I don't know why they are dodging your question, kind of obnoxious. The Jericho 941 is the handgun of choice for Spike Spiegel the main character in Cowboy Bebop. Very cool show and firearm.

[@clukinvar]

Thanks for making the Alien vs Jericho video.

[@tuttifongul2006]

did i actually see Paul shoot a totally new-to-him g17 better than his Beretta?😂😂 I LOVE THIS CHANNEL!!!!!!!

[@pedroparamo-fw6ez]

EXCELLENT VIDEO 👏I always wanted to see an unbiased test of the Alien pistol versus other pistols. 👏👏👏👏

[@mattevans-koch9353]

Thank you Paul for the comparison video. Always helpful and well done.

[@KevinSmith-yh6tl]

You're THE go to guy, Paul. Thanks for all you do!

[@sisleymichael]

I appreciate Paul's down to earth advice. Pass on the $K gun, use the savings on ammo for practice time. That said, there are a ton of good pistols these days that work very well, are accurate, and people buy lots of them. We live in a good time for finding a decent gun at a reasonable price. I get a smile on my face when folks mention their new favorite gun to me that they shoot well, the grip is right, the sights/optic is right, the width, length, weight, ammo count, all of that has them all excited AND they did not have to take out a loan to buy it. No, I will not say what my favorite is. No way. I don't want the blow back from those that want to convert me to their favorite gun. Been down that dead end road and it always looks the same. I'll stay happy and hope everyone finds their happy place and their favorite gun.

[@sisleymichael]

@dylancounte1448 Your comment is what I was talking about. You want a fight. Well, go find one. I don't need it.

[@rdrrr]

I can't stand gun snobbery. Take Hi-Point, the internet's punching bag. Hi-Point pistols are reliable and very tough. Big, clunky and ugly as sin, but they're affordable and you can expect them to work. Hi-Point carbines are handy little PCCs, too. They work, and you can't beat 'em for price. Somebody needs to provide low-cost options. Folks of few means need a firearm to protect themselves and their property too. Damn the snobs, I'm glad Hi-Point do what they do.

[@derekp2674]

Thanks Paul and team, that was really interesting. For paper target accuracy, my "go to" 9mm would be an old school SIG 210 but every so often I am surprised by how accurate some Browning Hi-Powers can be with decent ammo.

[@alexander1902]

Add a Hi-Power trigger job from MK3 firearms and it is a dream.

[@danielmcconnell1096]

The one flyer with the 92fs. "Yes that is very annoying" :) Love your content Paul!

[@burnetthopkins9583]

Thanks, Paul. I liked this comparison. As usual, your closing always makes me smile. Keep up the good work.

[@peterquinn2997]

IWI makes great pistols. Very underrated company.

[@RenjiMaili]

My first pistol was the previous generation of the Jericho, before the slide cuts on the front made it ugly, and I love the thing. After awhile I picked up the Masada and it's been pretty damn solid as well. Just reliable guns with great ergonomics.

[@bigb7157]

I’ve got three of their guns. All in all, they are a great buy for the money.

[@matthewbeaver5026]

Really interested in the new Masada slim. Looks like a good one.

[@StarionJA]

I have the 941 polymer version we call it the baby desert eagle here, and it is by far my worst shooting pistol, at 25m I can barely keep 10 rounds on a issf rapidfire target. I love its form, function and reliability but shooting it depresses me, not sure if its just me or the gun but I just can't get it to perform close to my other pistols perhaps polymers just aren't for me. .

[@andrewforward3812]

Had 9 941FS over 30yrs. Still have 5 of them. Have on one over 120k rounds on it. Combined with other gripp panels, they fit like a glove and Istill like the a lot. Allof my ones had tight tolerances and where fairly accurate. The poliygon barrel was picky to some sort of bullets and weights, not in function, just in accuracy. But If I was using it, I did could check what I wanted to use, so I took the best for her guts. Still love them.

[@mattbrown5511]

Excellent information as always. Thank you, Paul and crew.

[@77tr776]

Another great video Paul and crew!

[@connorcronin4022]

Happy to see you with the Jericho. I absolutely love that handgun.

[@rdrrr]

I understand it's based on the CZ-75. What differences are there?

[@connorcronin4022]

It’s not super different but it does have minor differences that makes it shoot a little better. It’s heavier and it has a more pronounced hump on the back strap.

[@MetaKorpse]

I don't know if I have seen a good head to head video with the alien like this before. Really cool to see how it stacks up. Had never heard of the IWI pistol. Did some quick reading on wikipedia, and I would love to see a more in depth video on that particular firearm. Good video.

[@45.Slanging]

Type the same thing into KZbin and you'll find videos on the 941. MAC has the coolest the 41AE thr 40 that was too soon

[@MetaKorpse]

@@45.Slanging Will definitely check that out. MAC makes really good videos too, hard to watch them all!

[@ontarioblue1994]

Great work again Paul

[@prototype3a]

Thank you, Mr. Harrell !

[@christopherchilders3132]

Thank you! Great video!

[@shawnr771]

Happy to hear gunfire in the background again. Looked like all the pistols performed well given the parameters of ownership and the amount of practice or lack thereof Paul had with each pistol.

[@Kanaloa47]

Excellent video that demos practical results and overall value for the money.

[@bertg.6056]

Another outstanding presentation, Paul. Thanks !

[@ShiftyKen08]

Your videos are always awesome!

[@terryschiller2625]

If Paul considers himself a average shooter. I'd hate to consider what kind of shooter I am. But like Paul said "buy more ammo and practice"! That you Sir for all your hard work and time you are appreciated.

[@yXTankXy]

"...Shot by the average shooter..." says an expert marksman... by far the best guntuber.

[@miker9043]

Excellent test Paul ! All those guns ran great and you had excellent groups on all ! Like you I have a few 9mm hand guns but my favorite range gun is one I've had since I bought it new in 1990 , my Ruger p89 stainless, its heavy so recoil is low and it is easy to keep on target .

[@mikemoore7559]

Same with my P95. My first 9mm and as of now, my favorite 9mm. And yes, I have others.... 😁😁

[@JR15A2]

Those Aliens look really neat. Not quite neat enough for me to pay $4-$5k for one though.

[@boggleminded1]

Always great, clear and pertinent info. Thanks.

[@bradborgelt60]

Miss you forever Paul!!!!!!!

[@seamusburke9101]

Beetween Paul Harrell and Masad Aoube ive learnt so much about guns. Bear in mind I'm 66 years old and only fired 1 shot from a 22 rifle in my whole life. I'm irish and live in UK.

[@spconrad9612]

Paul giving a shout out to Manute Bol (spelling) wow that's some old school ball right there. Great content as always Paul.

[@cantonis1999]

I love my Jericho, not sure if you’ve ever had one in a video. Looking forward to your thoughts on it!

[@whiplash8277]

The Laugo, at $4000 shoots no better than the 92FS at $500-600 bucks. This is truly a "bang for your buck" presentation. Thanks, Paul.

[@HTacianas]

Paul pointed out that he had never used an Alien prior, meanwhile his 92FS seems to be his main pistol. Having a comparable score between something you've never shot before and the gun you have the most practice with is nothing to scoff at.

[@alexander1902]

@@HTacianaswell isn’t the whole point of a $4K for it to be a tack driver for any user out of the box?

[@FT4Freedom]

​@Alexander no. A person learns machinery. Once learned, they can perform.

[@HTacianas]

@@alexander1902 That was my point. I was saying that since Paul was able to achieve a similar level of accuracy and speed with the Alien compared to the 92FS, that it was likely a very good pistol as he hasn't had to learn and adjust like he has with others.

[@jki808]

@@HTacianas the $4000 price tag comes from the fact that it’s an innovative piece that’s a one of a kind. It’s not meant to turn a first time shooter into John Wick. An experienced shooter with his Hi Point would do better than a beginner with the Alien. At no point does Laugo or anybody else say otherwise.

[@brucebello2049]

Another excellent video Paul, thank you

[@AlexLee-dc2vb]

Paul Harrell making a video on the Laugo Alien?? HELL. YES.

[@richardthornton3775]

Brilliant advice mate. Thank you👊🏼

[@ulkesh78]

I chuckle every time Paul calls himself an average shooter

[@invertedpolarity6890]

Everyone wins a prize when Mr. Harrel posts a new video.

[@thatbeme]

Thank you. I have always wanted a pistol that both sites didn't move. Great invention. 😊

[@johnq5284]

What this all shows is your consistency. 😎👍

[@antjeeismann4684]

I wouldn't guessed that Paul would do a Video on a topic this specific in my wildest Dreams.

[@maxcactus7]

I worked at a large gun shop years ago and handled and sold many of those Jericho 941s and they all had superb DA/SA triggers and excellent ergonomics (ala the CZ-75) Very highly recommended.

[@jamesmaysflyingwashingmach7459]

The Jericho 941 definitely has a better trigger than the CZ's. Dunno about the rest of the construction though.

[@thatjackal74]

considering the Jerichos are forged and CZ-75s are cast I’d say the Jericho wins on durbility over all unfortunately it weights a metric fuck ton….still my favorite pistol that I daily carry

[@TheKentuckyPatriot]

Paul Harrell has the best channel on KZbin. 🙂

[@jacka55six60]

I do like the concept of a handgun built with for less muzzle rise. My S&W 422 incorporated a form of this and it seemed to make followup shots faster (for a small 22LR). Unfortunately my eldest daughter loved it as much as I did. 🙄 Maybe I'll find another one some day.

[@gnsmk357]

Very well done. Great job. Thank you.

[@deathofkindness]

Excellent video Space Cowboy

[@45calibermedic]

"As for everybody else, please dont try this at home; I'm what you call a professional bounty hunter."

[@Yetified_Mayhem]

Paul comes thru again! God bless!

[@co2gonzo]

I'm with a lot of the commentators on here, I never thought I'd see Paul do a review on a Laugo Alien. However, I'm grateful for Paul's testing and insights into specific Firearms and Firearm Types. I would absolutely love to see Paul do one of His lengthy testing with various ammunition, meat targets and His Patented Dawn of Time Explanations!!! Thanks Again, Paul!!! You have made me a better Marksman and have helped to weed out guns I don't necessarily need.

[@rickpineo2588]

Looks like you bonded with that Jericho quite well sir. Perhaps it’s worth a video in itself.

[@PaulHarrell]

I was VERY impressed with the Jericho.

[@jonisrad1769]

​@@PaulHarrell well I think the owner would be OK with you doing a stand alone video

[@roll-aid6655]

@@PaulHarrell I bought my Jericho 941 at a gun show where I was able to handle it right beside the Beretta 92FS. Both had great fit to my hands and both actions seemed to be very smooth. The 92FS was $200 more, so being a little frugal, I went for the 941. Interested in what ammo was used for this demonstration? Was it plain range practice ball ammo or some type of defense rounds?

[@PaulHarrell]

@@roll-aid6655 The ammo used in this demo was Remington G/W box 9X19 115 gr. FMJ

[@roll-aid6655]

@@PaulHarrell Thank you! I use the Winchester counterpart -- red & white 9x19 115 gr FMJ.

[@loboloco866]

As always very professional 👏 and knowledgeable, unbiased 100 %

[@bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321]

my ears appreciated the gentle audio on your target practice!

[@johnjanoscrat8000]

Nice production, Paul. I'll save the money. All the best! "The JJ" SW Penna

[@Matt-xc6sp]

The Alien may be from Earth, but Paul took the Jericho off a space cowboy.

[@billy.laughs]

Rest in peace ❤

[@hotdogbusinessman1172]

Thank you Paul, very cool

[@tenderonibaloney8854]

Thanks for helping me decide on the Jericho a while back...

[@ggtjr4]

The Manute Bol reference was a true lol. But I have to say, the man was a true humanitarian and great human being, let his legacy not be forgotten in Sudan

[@jlbksinger]

Nice mix of pistols Paul.

[@richardrogers8254]

Great video. Thank you for sharing.

[@michaelblacktree]

It was funny watching Paul shoot random guns people handed to him.

[@05AcuraRSXtypeS]

LOL should have led the presentation with the 4k price tag... but then gain I might not have watched all of it... I'll stick with my G17 and P365sas... love you paul and crew!

[@jc1124]

Great review.

[@jasonb7878]

Thanks for another good one.

[@randlerichardson5826]

That sound of gunfire I love it Paul.

[@robertgantry2118]

Hey Paul. Because of your comparison and review of ammo a few videos back, I decided I liked the Sig Sauer V-Crown ammo and decided to purchase some to replace my Hornady ammo (which you've indicated have poor performance). I got 200 rounds in 9x19 and 200 in .40 S&W. Surprisingly the .40 S&W ammo was about 5 bucks a box less than the 9mm. Anyway I feel much more comfortable keeping my pistols loaded with the V-Crown, especially because my 9mm was loaded with that cheap IMI ammo. The IMI ammo served its purpose at the time I purchased it when ammo was so hard to find. Anyway the IMI ammo will be great for plinking.

[@stinger5900]

No you have not won a prize that's a scam. 😂😂 I always love the humor on this channel. Paul you are awsome.

[@str8shooter159]

I knew Paul would shoot well with all of them he is just that damn good.

[@ishakzakaria3923]

I was paying full attention on the Jericho 941R. Thanks.

[@therealpuzzlecube3123]

didn't expect to see you try out these pistols, that's for sure.

[@2006Mercury]

I'm not a big fan of that alien pistol but it's awesome to see Paul reviewing it and comparing it seeyouspacecowboy

[@jimcheatwood9009]

Great presentation I read about the Alien thought the lower bore would help it, then saw the price.

[@ftlengineer]

Awesome vid. Holy Toledo that's an eye-watering price tag. The matchup I would've like to have seen is the Alien against the PX4, because that's also a kinda obscure gun with a funky recoil-reducing mechanism, but it's sold by a major manufacturer (Beretta) for a far more center of the pack price tag.

[@breckfreeride]

4x the weight to lol

[@ftlengineer]

@@breckfreeride (looks up stats.) *The Alien is well over two pounds?!* At that weight you may as well pack a DEagle.

[@breckfreeride]

@@ftlengineer sure why not... Deagle, laugo and px4 have one thing in common... They're not that common lol!

[@phillipm.4252]

Love ya content Paul. Keep err goin👍🏾👍🏾

[@bhartley868]

Hey Paul , I researched that Ian Fleming , creator of James Bond , owned a Browning .25 , serial number 257024 , made in 1920-1921 . Source : Colt Forum Help identifying Ian Flemings Police Positive . Fleming did not own a Beretta . In Flemings estate listed all his guns including the Browning .25 . The gun was a war time issue that Fleming took every year to Jamaica. The .25 was not licensed in England until Fleming wrote a contact in government in 1953 . I have identified the .25 as a Colt 1908 vest pocket model . Just thought you would like to know . Thank You for all your work .

[@HumphreyHorsehead]

I'm a big fan of the Jericho. Mine is an FS9 which is their "mid sized" all steel model. I find it to be an absolute tack driver of a pistol and the all steel construction makes recoil fairly minimal. I used to have a compact Beretta 92 and between them I prefer the Jericho for a 9mm.

[@manarazor4782]

Wait I thought the “941” was midsized? Has my life been a lie this entire time😂 or is the difference that steel model?

[@HumphreyHorsehead]

@Mana razor well it's complicated. The Jericho as we know it has gone by several different brand names and designations in the past. For example it used to be known as the Baby Eagle. Even here we see Paul is using an R model which they don't make anymore. From IWI's website there are 2 models of Jericho 941 in current production, both all steel. The F9 and the FS9. The F9 is considered full sized and the FS9 midsized. The only difference between them is barrel/slide length with the F9 having 4.4in and the FS9 having 3.8in. The .45 caliber model and both of the polymer framed models are listed as discontinued with the latter being replaced by the newer Jericho Enhanced (as opposed to 941) models. Interestingly the reason it's dubbed 941 is because it was originally designed to be interchangeable between 9mm and the more potent .41AE. That's also why the all steel models are on the heavy side for a 9mm. Since .41AE lost out to .40S&W much like HDDVD did to BluRay its been doomed to obscurity thus IWI no longer makes the conversion kits for it. At least we get to have a nice all steel 9mm in the end.