Peter Forsberg Wayne Gretzky

Peter Forsberg Wayne Gretzky Colorado Avalanche Foppa

[@florida0092]

All accolades have already been written. I’ll just reiterate them, because watching Peter Forsberg videos still gives me goosebumps, borderline tears. He was an absolute ice hockey phenom! What most younger folks don’t get is that Forsberg’s career coincided with the worst spectator-friendly and hockey-unaesthetic era of clutch-and-grab. Technical forwards were much more easily shut down without drawing opposing team penalties. It’s of course all hypothetical, and you can’t compare eras, but I honestly believe that Peter Forsberg would have surpassed Wayne Gretzky’s points per game average had he played either before the 90’s and early 2000’s, or after 2005.

[@Carpediemdeluxe]

Was Mats Thelin tough?

[@F1rstWorldNomaD]

Wayne Gretzky said it. Csn you even doubt it? Forsberg is one of the greatest player of all time.

[@Cl2olvleY21]

One of the few guys in the game that may have the total package - Wayne Gretzky. Peter Forsberg was phenomenal to watch, till this day I still don't get as excited watching players the way I watched forsberg on the ice he was really something special

[@mulph7738]

Jason Cromey precicely

[@snickaren111]

Lemieux had the total package as well, and he was more skilled and a bigger guy. Lemieux was Lindroos, Forsberg and Gretzky at their peaks in one package. After Lemieux comes nothing, then nothing again, then comes the others mentioned above.

[@pilotamurorei]

As an Avs fan, that era from 1996-2003 was some of the greatest hockey played by any team in any era. All the sheer talent on those teams was unmatched.

[@Terminator6364]

@@snickaren111 Lemieux had even better offensive creativity and skills compared to Forsberg, but he was not an two-way forward like Peter and he was big but way more soft. No player until now had that combination of a playmaker and that power of will like Forsberg had. Thats what made him special and comparable with other great like Mario and Jagr.

[@LOUI-e7h]

If pettersson gains some weight. He could be thebnext forsberg

[@MO-vn7kc]

I am from Sweden and i almost cried when forsberg and Sundin retired. When you see highlights from Mcdavid you can really see that he is a special player. Peter also had that but almost every game. Imop the best player ever ( i guess some bias ) . He played so many years with a injured foot/ankle and still he stood out. Best reverse offensive hits still. Vi Glömmer dig aldrig Peter

[@TzunSu]

Yeah, so many family memories of watching them play that's going to be around for a lot longer then either of them will be. I served Peter food a few years ago, he's a real class act.

[@dannileigh6426]

Separated shoulder to boot

[@Losrandir]

"We play a little bit different..." (cue clips of Forsberg ramming through people!) How else?! ;)

[@ZoltanDeluxe]

Peter the GREAT! Best all round player to play the game and he dominated the clutch and grab era.

[@michaeljoseph8674]

I loved the clutch an grab era..loved playing it way more exciting and you gained skills.. look at him just stickhandle through everyone and now it a pick up game with passing.. no real strength being used no real battles..betteman ruined it. You know your stiff and right about the clutch and grab. They need to allow a little more of this, that is what made the game and players get passionate.Now its touch him an in the box not right

[@chilli-goon-fredmranderson4450]

Amen to that brother!😎👊

[@davidpogacar9564]

Exactly he play in toughest time in league.If play today he would murdered these softys and extend hes carrer.Guy play on bad ankels and without spleen and didnt complain,he was tough MF.

[@mulph7738]

True. True

[@NiteOWL82]

Love Forsberg. I was very lucky to see him play live in person. I lived in nyc at the time. Saw him play the Islanders and he has 3 points that night.

[@saintlunaticv3602]

Jeremy Roenick can't speak about someone elses talent for a minute without using the words I, my or me 19 times. What a Legend Gretzky is.

[@pichart]

Was in Denver during peter the great’s reign. Awesome.

[@johanjonsson3591]

My Best Forsberg Memory? The year he missed whole season just to make a comeback in the playoff. He was playing like he didnt miss a game and was so close to take Colorado all the way almost by himself. That playoff games against Detroit was some of the best i seen from Forsberg. Too bad for them Red Wings was superb. I use to take a look at those rosters and Man what lineup Red Wings and Colorado had that year!

[@shabba213]

@@flounder yeah I didn't like the fact that we beat Detroit just to lose to Dallas..7 games both times..Colorado wouldn't have needed controversy to win the Cup either.

[@robins5798]

@@shabba213 Controversy? Nothing would have stopped Dallas from winning that year, with or without Hull's goal. They won the President's Trophy and clearly was the best team in the playoffs. Hull had a about two inches of his skate in the crease for less than a second, had puck possession and didn't interfere with Hasek. It was a good goal. Besides, the league removed the rule the year after anyway. Get over it. People who still defend that destructive rule are people who apparently hate ice hockey. I get that it must've sucked to lose two 7 game series in a row (great matchups by the way) against the same team, but stop trying to discredit that Stars team.

[@shabba213]

@@robins5798 who's discrediting them I said it sucked to beat our rival just to lose to Dallas.. I'm a fan of Eddie the Eagle, Modano, sydor. The statement still stands they won how they won. I don't think it was a bad goal...never really liked the rule anyways esp if player doesn't interfere with the goalie..

[@MO-vn7kc]

I guess you are also from Sweden but if not i keep it in English. Same big memory for me and also waking up every morning and check out the NHL games on Text Tv. Agree...that team was out of this world. Imagine if Sundin wasent traded by Quebec before they become Avalanche.

[@pierrebertrand3716]

The total package, ULTIMATE PLAYER

[@Michael-fw5ef]

Nineties hockey was rough, hard on the body.

[@mulph7738]

Forsberg was the greatest one. So tough so great

[@gustatt]

If i could have any player at his prime in a Stanley Cup final this would be the guy.

[@saskscott26]

I might take Mario but Forsberg is crazy hard to argue against.

[@MO-vn7kc]

Tänk Sudden inte hade blivit trejdad utan följt med till Colorado. Ryser bara jag tänker på det. Mvh Landsman

[@vikingkrigare5329]

If Gretzky says that about you, then I would have felt that my mission was completed

[@Carpediemdeluxe]

Känner du till Mats Thelin? Är en av Sveriges tuffaste NHL-spelare någonsin?

[@labantarasov5849]

@@Carpediemdeluxe Känner DU till Thommie Bergman?

[@Carpediemdeluxe]

@@labantarasov5849 Nej.

[@PrometheusPhamarus]

Great..I missed this one before. 2:49...always so fun to see that pool bounce back and going around the players he makes fun of, he used to do that in the swedish elite series as well, a kind of play that requires how to make use of the other players balance (or non balance) while in the game, so either he used the offensive hit while standing still when someone is trying to hit him, or he used the opponents body to richochet himself to gain more speed himself, or using the back of the goalie cage and pool ricochet the puck so the opponent is all dizzy, or do a guy one one one while changing body direction at a fast speed. forsberg really had a way of thinking several moves ahead of most others. It can´t be fun to be made fun of like that when forsberg turns the pants of you inside out. Gretzky and Forsberg.. Two amazing players with a similar sense of playmaking and sense of timining in the game that was phenomenal

[@mbapache64]

This is what made Forsberg so great! A guy with his offensive talent, that could just kick your ass; I’m not sure there will ever be another.

[@stwinkkzz40]

I don't think we will ever see a player as complete as Peter. I mean, he was never the best in scoring, he was never the absolut best playmaker, he was never the best physically, he was never the best defensive forward.. But he had an insanely high level in all terms of the game, but never the best.. and for me, he is the most complete player in the history.

[@snickaren111]

@@stwinkkzz40 Kan du ens något om hockey? Har du spelat själv? Vet man något om spelet så förstår man att ingen kommer i närheten av Super Mario. Visst, Foppa hör hemma på en topp10-lista över de bästa någonsin, men Lemieux kommer alltid vara ohotad etta med närmast oändlig marginal.

[@F1rstWorldNomaD]

@Snickaren111 Du är efterbliven. Mario är absolut en av de bästa spelarna någonsin. Men bara score boarden ensant visar att han inte är BÄST. Och även om han varit så hade det inte varit med någon form av "marginal".

[@skshooter8662]

i used to have this on VHS.

[@kungkrona]

Johann Strumpher Gretzky and the next ones, i think!

[@clauso72]

Ohh he was so good. Favourite player and what a shame he was so tormented by injuries....

[@YRFKD]

Its agreed. They were 'A little bit different'

[@LLiivveeeevviiLL]

That line was a great setup for the hitting-feast which followed. Nice editing.

[@ollebengtsson5320]

Ser fram emot det! Lysande insats för att bevara minnet av denna legend!

[@Acekorv]

Forsberg wanted to win he took it personal but in the end of his career he had some nasty injuries like his heel injury but still played. I heard he did alot to be able to continue but his injuries just didn't let him. He could have been further up there hadn't the injuries gotten the best of him.

[@one7decimal2eight]

I remember watching him in the 90s and every opposing team hated him because he had a habit of instigating and then diving. I remember seeing a sign held up by a fan on an opposing team that said...Peter Forsberg: The world's greatest actress. What a player. So much skill on those avs teams. Sakic, lemieux, Forsberg, Foote. I saw them live against the Blackhawks when I lived in chicago the year they won their 2nd cup. Still have the ticket stub.

[@Kreutz]

Man, I hope more Forsbergs come to the NHL again...

[@detskalldaltas133]

You have Philip.

[@zachhyman7148]

Filip*

[@staffan144]

Filip Forsberg kzbin.info/www/bejne/oavOfXuIibmrnbM not that bad (actually pretty good), but nothing like Peter Forsberg though. So not really what u asked for, but it is nevertheless another "Forsberg" in nhl. :-)

[@gustavjohansson1474]

Maybe Elias Pettersson, abit early in the career but maybe

[@petecartaxo]

I was in Texas the Bible belt and my father-in-law had a picture up on the wall and it looked like Peter 👍🏻 👌

[@detskalldaltas3878]

Thank you for this word The Great Gretzky! But when you playing..nobody touch you. Slaugter come directyly and attack your defender. You can stay free in front of the goal an nobody do anything!

[@phillyfan410]

gretzky would be a great commentator

[@detskalldaltas133]

In Snooker or Golf mayby.

[@dzanier]

he was overwhelming, and the comparison to trottier is accurate except for the mean streak. trottier was tough but never dirty. forsberg had a mean streak. lots of great players have had one. it's not a shortcoming. i just felt it was appropriate to distinguish trottier from forsberg in that aspect

[@michaeljoseph8674]

Truth surprised gretz made that compasrison cause there isnt one

[@MO-vn7kc]

Forsberg played hard but to call him dirty????

[@67km67]

Amen.. wayne ( no1) love this...

[@Staffan1966]

Peter is not only a ordinary swedish guy Peter is a typical sweden north guy and that type of guy grow up with brown bear and wolverine lynx and wolfes area of sweden right outside the door. Just watch the special wolfeye peter get when he is on real fire on the ice. Noone will beat him in that moment when he get that kind of glance in hes eyes No one could stop him who gives offesive tackle with puck like that before? One of the wery wery few players act like that I think his father and mother gived peter vikings and wolf genes in the porridge. 😂💪 Never give up. He is so like a typical north swede guy like Börje Salming and Holmström and many many more of hard guys from the north of sweden Dont talk more than you need Just get do the job done.

[@djrondo1224]

Back when hockey was really fun to watch. Messier was similar in terms of playing the complete game but he was so dirty it is hard to respect him.

[@piirakkaliisa8340]

What is that epic song playing background? Artist and song name PRONTO!

[@The-Dom]

That "we're a little bit different." is way i take Peter over Wayne in any playoff hockey fantasy draft.

[@Belnick6666]

if he never had his foot problem.....I far would he have gone?

[@lazydaze3134]

Belnick6666 He was injury prone even before the foot injury. He only played 1 full season in his entire career. Imagine his numbers if all 15 of those seasons were complete. I bet money he'd have seven or eight 100+ points seasons.

[@michaeljoseph8674]

Yup playing injured will definitely affect production no doubt

[@grezgorztube]

It seems like his problems with injuries were maybe related to how hard he played all of the time. By contrast, look at the Sedin Twins. They had very few injuries, and had some amazing streaks of consecutive games played without missing any, but they were never known for playing with intensity, and didn't seem to do as well in big games, though they were both excellent players.

[@pilotamurorei]

You forgot his missing spleen.

[@davidpogacar9564]

Thats because Peter give it all on ice on defense and offense and hes agressivnes style and era which was brutal cost him years od play.

[@zerosumgamez]

if you think deeper you can see that Forsberg actually didn't score a lot of goals. He is more of a play-maker.

[@ollebengtsson5320]

Great stuff man!!!! Keep provide us with this fantastic material. Do tou have more?

[@kungkrona]

Tjena! Jag har kommit över lite matcher så ja, möjligtvis dyker det upp lite fler klipp framöver.

[@phillytheflyerable]

man har ju sett det mesta som är gammal skåpmat, så gärna fler klipp inte bara mål utan målchanser, finter, tacklingar osv. fantastiska klipp du lägger upp

[@mulph7738]

Wayne the intouchable. Forsberg got punished

[@michaeljoseph8674]

please dont even try to use trotier in comparison to forsbergs toughness. trotier wasn't and isnt remembered for his toughness on the play not like this guy hell no and look at that single handed stickhandling an how these guys int get so easily knocked off their feet like today in those stiff skates they have today.. Now its a pickup game with passing and maybe a move one on one here.. I like this game better and this era.. these guys overcame hooks holds grabs and where very strong on the puck and artistic.. They need to allow a little more aggressive play on the man and not call so many dam soft calls. Let them wrestle one on one for that puck.. thats whats missing. betteman softened up the game to much an it pisses me off lol

[@mikescorpio13]

How to explain why Forsberg is the greatest of all time.. 1:07 hahaha

[@lynnelipovsek5349]

He's like a Mac Truck

[@tubestubb]

You cant compare Peter with ”The great one”. Peter was way better. But they did not play in the same time.

[@Ace96x10]

Lol, you're funny.

[@tubestubb]

Well. Many people think so. But this is fact. Noone even touched 99. But check out the Swedish steel. Not even the same game.

[@labantarasov5849]

@@tubestubb Men jämför med Mario Lemieux t ex, säsongen 95-96 när Forsberg gjorde sin bästa säsong poängmässigt sett 116 p, gjorde Lemieux över 160 p. Lemieux hade när han la av först efter 96-97, högre poängsnitt per match än Gretzky, och då var han ändå skadad x antal ggr när han var som bäst i karriären.

[@JorgenKreedz]

@@Ace96x10 Gretzsky didn't play a single defensive shift in his entire career, greatest goal scorer no doubt, but not the greatest hockey player.

[@Ace96x10]

@@tubestubb The era 99 played in was more violent then the 90's, not less. Very rarely did anyone harass Gretzsky because if they did, there was always an enforcer to beat the living shet of of the harasser. The clutching and grabbing/holding was full on when he played to. There is no era at all, now included, that He wouldn't be the most dominate player in the NHL. 99 scored far more points then Mario, and Forsberg, as great as he was, couldn't match Mario (all 3 played in the NHL for years at the same time.) No offense, but your line just doesn't hold up to the facts at all.

[@phillytheflyerable]

songs?

[@Michael-fw5ef]

The best players in Sweden came to the NHL and scored 80 points. Gretzky scored 3 times that amount. That sums up how good Gretzky was. If the game was so easy in the 1980s, why didn't anyone else, except Lemieux, ever match Gretzky's scoring totals?

[@gillisorneborg6180]

Gretzky was ahead of his time by miles, this is something that occurs in a lot of sports. It is easier to get ahead of hte curve earlier on, and once in a blue moon the player that perfectly embodies the manner in which the game is currently played comes along. Then as the game gets perfected further the difference in skill grows smaller and smaller. The issue is when people use this as an excuse to diminish the accomplishments of pioneers, such as Gretzky. No Gretzky would not score as much in todays environment had he played in the exact same manner as he did back then. But gretzky helped evolve the manner in which the game is played nowadays, and had he grown up playing in a later generation he obviously would not play in the exact same manner as he did during his era, and he would almost certainly excel to one of the greatest regardless. His numbers just would not be as ridiculous.

[@labantarasov5849]

@@gillisorneborg6180 Mario Lemieux var minst lika bra, och Bobby Orr var inte illa pinkad han heller. Skadorna bromsade upp en hel del för dessa.

[@MrClebophd]

Well, Mario played with Jagr for a very long time... Forsberg had no such equivalant. Sakic was great, but he is no Jagr. Instead, Forsberg made a lot of players success. Anyone remember Milan Hejduk, Ville Niemen, or Alex Tanguay? They did ok while playing on the same line as Forsberg, but disappeared (mostly) when not playing with Forsberg.

[@lukebruce5234]

Peter fucking Stastny scored like 130+ points. Yzerman would score over 150 points. It was a lot easier to score in the 80s than in the dead puck era. Also Forsberg was exceptional defensively.

[@MO-vn7kc]

@@labantarasov5849 Instämmer helt. Som när han kom tillbaka efter sin Cancer . Borta en hel säsong med cellgifter och bara dominerar när tillbaka.

[@dannycarlow8204]

The most horrible thing about Peter was that my Jets took Aaron Ward with the 5th pick and Philly took Peter with the 6th pick. Aaron fn Ward. That single pick would have changed the landscape of the league for years.

[@kindnessofwooedandwooer2494]

The dislikes are from finnish people.

[@Losrandir]

Dunno. A like from this Finnish person.

[@kindnessofwooedandwooer2494]

@@Losrandir :D that's a swedish name though, so I'm guessing not full fin.

[@Michael-fw5ef]

Forsberg was amazing defensively, he could hit, he could back check. On offense, he could do it all. Compare him to McDavid who can't do even half of what Forsberg could do. McDavid only is good today because the NHL is so watered down with a lack of skill.

[@freakazoid4691]

This is just stupidity. McDavid is phenomenal, as was Forsberg.

[@Michael-fw5ef]

@@freakazoid4691 McDavid is not great defensively and he can't hit like Forsberg could.

[@MrClebophd]

@@Michael-fw5ef Yes, Forsberg was more versatile, McDavid is faster though. Different type of player. Forsberg was the complete package, McDavid is a scorer.

[@gdprice79]

2:06 Hahaha! Sad.

[@jbcnxter2384]

#Gears

[@ChiefTwopipes]

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[@johkv637]

Peter was way better then Gretzky

[@arkadiyfleyshman9789]

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