Peter Gabriel- Big Time (REACTION//DISCUSSION)

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Song Link: • Peter Gabriel - Big Time

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@jameswarner5809
@jameswarner5809 2 жыл бұрын
Lyrically and musically this is one of PG's most fun tracks. Nobody would have seen this coming a couple of albums back.
@josiepkat
@josiepkat 13 күн бұрын
Very true!!!
@papalaz4444244
@papalaz4444244 2 жыл бұрын
The groove in this is absolutely incredible. The entire album is a masterpiece.
@sandymiller3577
@sandymiller3577 2 жыл бұрын
My sister surprised me back in the '80's, by taking me to his concert. One of the best shows I've been to, and I've been to a lot of concerts. I think this by far was one of the top albums in the '80s. Some people were disappointed in him, for leaving Genesis... I didn't take it so personally. I thought he was great. Loved your reaction 👍
@spongo
@spongo 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't really give this album a chance until a few years later, after the hype had died down. "Sledgehammer" and "Big Time" were on high rotation on MTV and corporate rock radio surely played a part in these songs being overplayed to the point of aggravation. I was already a Gabriel fan, but I was also a metalhead who despised the synths and overproduction of the 80s. Only years later, when I first heard "Mercy Street," "Don't Give Up," "Red Rain," and the lesser-played tracks did I appreciate just how much Peter Gabriel achieved with this album.
@johnpbh
@johnpbh 2 жыл бұрын
This track was so much of a reflection of the "me" culture of the time..."Yuppies" abounded... Sadly we never seem to have got rid of that "me" culture... Oh yes... Serious dance floor tune by the way.. Keep On Rocking man.
@Lightmane
@Lightmane 2 жыл бұрын
I think the me culture has existed for as long as humans have been on the planet.
@marcharley6465
@marcharley6465 2 жыл бұрын
Well said !
@johnpbh
@johnpbh 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lightmane Hmm.. It's a debatable point but I get what you mean.. Having been around since the 1950's I can assure you it ramped up a huge amount from the '80's both in the UK and in the USA
@Lightmane
@Lightmane 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnpbh perhaps, or maybe with technology we just became more aware of it
@johnpbh
@johnpbh 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lightmane No.... it was a social change... there was nothing to compare with today in terms of technology for the masses in the early eighties.
@_Shadoh_
@_Shadoh_ Жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right, dancefloors were fully packed when this was playing, great times!
@aka.Mr.French
@aka.Mr.French 2 жыл бұрын
One thing a lot of folks miss about Gabriel -- among other things, he's a fan of R&B and Motown. Elements of that flavor show up here and there in several of his songs -- for example, note the gospel-style piano in the middle section of "Don't Give Up" (played by Richard Tee, who could play that style easily) -- and even crept in here and there in his Genesis days. On this album, though, he cranked those influences to 11 on "Sledgehammer" and "Big Time."
@dbsti3006
@dbsti3006 Жыл бұрын
Man, no video? That's half of the greatness you are missing with Pete Gabriel. Lol.
@racegod69
@racegod69 Жыл бұрын
Randomly finding someone listening to big time for the first time. The song is an experience man.
@progperljungman8218
@progperljungman8218 2 жыл бұрын
I for one sure did request it for many a dance night 😁
@paulgnsn554
@paulgnsn554 2 жыл бұрын
Got to say, this was one of the first singles I bought, I wasn’t aware of any controversy at the time, just huge success for Peter Gabriel and the album. Genesis had gone popular way before Peter Gabriel, so it’s not really as if he was selling out. But to many people he was a new artist. The only previous big hits he’d had were Games without Frontiers and Solsbury Hill. Very different sound. But his serious lyrics never changed even if the music was more upbeat.
@RubesGoodBrainCoffee
@RubesGoodBrainCoffee 2 жыл бұрын
Let's be real, though: 'Solsbury Hill' charted higher than anything that Genesis single that they had released up to that point. That's no accident. I don't care about the lyrical content, because that's ignoring that the music was pure pop ear-candy and everyone knows that. There's a reason why it's a running joke that 'Solsbury Hill' has been featured in every other soundtrack, and that's because it's a song with mainstream appeal. There's nothing wrong with pop music so long as it's good. Genesis was probably just better at making good pop music than most of the other members, so they continued making it. Steve Hackett, on the other hand, made Cured and GTR.
@TRANZEURO
@TRANZEURO 2 жыл бұрын
"The only previous hits he'd had were Games Without Frontiers and Solsbury Hill." He also had 'Shock The Monkey' which I believe was actually bigger than either of those.
@paulgnsn554
@paulgnsn554 2 жыл бұрын
@@RubesGoodBrainCoffee true, but let's not forget that the following year, genesis charted 6 positions higher than Solsbury Hill when they released Follow you, Follow me. Solsbury Hill has maintained a strong presence since then for the reasons you say. Both Gabriel and Genesis went through a fertile patch in the early to mid 80s, although I think it's fair to say that Genesis fell into middle of the road mediocrity from the late 80s on, something Gabriel avoided.
@paulgnsn554
@paulgnsn554 2 жыл бұрын
@@TRANZEURO that was years later in 1982.
@paulgnsn554
@paulgnsn554 2 жыл бұрын
@@TRANZEURO but yes, before Sledgehammer.
@zenclover8468
@zenclover8468 2 жыл бұрын
Ive been recommending this track for a while. This feels good.
@bendancar
@bendancar 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one. I like this album too. I love the experimental stuff of "Security" and others, but it is ok to be joyful and have fun. I'm with you 100% that change is key, not 'purity' to a certain style. Speaking of experimental and constantly shifting, Elvis Costello has made a 50 year career of it: rock, pop, jazz, classical, soul... and it's all good. He is criminally underappreciated, imo.
@daveking9393
@daveking9393 2 жыл бұрын
this screams 80s to me... I was in college when this was released... limited funds prevented me from going to his show. friends said it was phenomenal... definitely regret missing this one... but it really was out of reach for me at the time...
@kuhnhan
@kuhnhan 2 жыл бұрын
As someone else stated, this came out at the time of Yuppies and "greed is good" were in fashion. Greed is good has always been around, but at that time it was openly and shamelessly embraced.
@lrimmf
@lrimmf 10 ай бұрын
It is entirely possible that this is my favourite track on the album
@cdemp4795
@cdemp4795 2 жыл бұрын
In 1986 this song and the album was considered pop rock. It wasn't necessarily a song you would dance to at a club. Of course, you could dance to it, but it wasn't considered "club" music. MTV was huge at the time, so we would watch the innovative video to this song over and over again.
@johnpbh
@johnpbh 2 жыл бұрын
A great track from a great album... I was lucky enough to see Peter on the 2013 anniversary tour of this album... Stunning as you might have expected.
@robertholmes6906
@robertholmes6906 Жыл бұрын
My favorite Peter Gabriel track.
@rickgarms7656
@rickgarms7656 2 жыл бұрын
Tony Levin's bass lines are so iconic! The "So" and "Us" LPs have many classic Peter Gabriel tunes and are among my collection faves! Thanks JP
@Reshyrah
@Reshyrah 2 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that you have a Kate Bush shirt on as her and Peter Gabriel did a duet on the song "Don't Give Up." Loved the reaction by the way, could tell you were catching the vibes.💗
@JustJP
@JustJP 2 жыл бұрын
Ty Reshyah!
@davidt7482
@davidt7482 2 жыл бұрын
Since you weren't around at the time, MTV was (still) televising music videos and was a huge cultural influence. The videos by Gabriel were extremely creative, as you could imagine, and entertaining, so they really added to the music. It's almost criminal not doing a reaction without the music videos. Another random thought--besides Graceland by Paul Simon, So introduced "world music" to the masses which is apparent in the unforgettable rhythms.
@ochayethegnu2915
@ochayethegnu2915 Жыл бұрын
Drumstick bass - Tony Levin strapped drumsticks to two fingers and hit the strings.
@chrisbeach6642
@chrisbeach6642 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this album being released as it was one of the very first to be released on the these strange crome coasters called a Compact Disc. I had been a Gabriel fan from Genesis and loved his albums up to this point. What an amazing album and the duet with Kate Bush on "Don't give up" is sublime. I was lucky enough to see Gabriel in concert and when it got to this song on this particular night he was joined by Kate. I was in tears the beauty of her and her voice. After Sledgehammer was released and they released Big Thing it most definitely cemented Gabriel as a pop artist and giving Phil a run for his money. In short, So is a very special album for me and I recently purchased the limited 25th anniversary edition on CD. With additional live concert tracks. Thank you Justin keep up the great work.
@chrisgross2043
@chrisgross2043 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact Tony was on John Lennon's last two albums
@thebrysmith3
@thebrysmith3 2 жыл бұрын
Tony Levin had little drumsticks attached to the fingers of his right hand, giving his playing a percussive attack.
@-davidolivares
@-davidolivares 2 жыл бұрын
I, literally played So yesterday at work, fairly loud but, when it came to Big Time, I skipped it. Mainly, because of my workmates, they sometimes say stuff about overplayed songs, like Hotel California, Closing Time, etc. So I skipped it. Glad you played it today. I had stopped clubbing by the album’s release but, it did not stop me from grabbing 12” mix versions of Sledgehammer and Big Time and others. Still have them. Some bands you’d think wouldn’t put out dance mixes, did, like David Gilmour with Blue Light. King Crimson did Sleepless mixes. Of course now they are available on Three of A Perfect Pair at least on Spotify. Back in my day, we had to search out our dance mixes… and we liked it! Weird days… Peace and 12” Music
@NoCanDu
@NoCanDu 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 12” singles, too. I fell in love with “Don’t Break This Rhythm” on the Sledgehammer 12” b-side! What a track!
@-davidolivares
@-davidolivares 2 жыл бұрын
@@NoCanDu Totally.
@TRANZEURO
@TRANZEURO 2 жыл бұрын
@@NoCanDu Yes,I love 'Don't Break This Rhythm' too,underexposed track.
@michaellomax2
@michaellomax2 Жыл бұрын
A cracking record. I was 27/27 when this was out.
@brucer2152
@brucer2152 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know HOW many times I played this entire cd on my old radio show. This one was just one great song after another.
@GareksApprentice
@GareksApprentice 2 жыл бұрын
The theme song to WWE Wrestlemania 22! First Peter Gabriel song I ever heard and its thanks to pro wrestling. Anyway, fun song and an excellent rebuttal to the belief that Genesis would've never gone 80s pop if Peter Gabriel hadn't left. PS: If you ever react to Gabriel's song "Steam", please do the video instead of just the song. A video that still wouldn't have been out of place on Tim & Eric or 3 AM on Adult Swim
@bjwnashe5589
@bjwnashe5589 2 жыл бұрын
The term "sick bassline" comes to mind. Tony Levin.
@Wolverale12
@Wolverale12 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there!
@ganjiblobflankis6581
@ganjiblobflankis6581 2 жыл бұрын
I was a kid when this album came out and the colourful animated videos got airplay and grabbed my attention. This was how I was introduced to Peter Gabriel, so all if his other work was treasure for me to discover as I grew up. I maintain that this is the best produced album of the 80s. Perhaps people at the time thought he was going to start churning out shallow dross, but I see this as him taking on the task of making the ultimate pop record, just to show he can, before moving on to other things. As to the track itself, I see it being him both celebrating and mocking unbounded ambition.
@TRANZEURO
@TRANZEURO 2 жыл бұрын
"Perhaps people at the time thought he was going to start churning out shallow dross" And the very next thing he did 'Passion" the soundtrack to the film 'The Last Temptation of Christ' was the most non commercial experimental thing he'd ever done.
@sirfriendzone1228
@sirfriendzone1228 2 жыл бұрын
I've probably listened to this song more than twice as much as any other Gabriel song (not counting Passion). Maybe the 'catchiest' song he ever did.
@debjorgo
@debjorgo 2 жыл бұрын
I think this album's title and many of the songs were comments on Phil Collins' huge success with Genesis and solo work after Peter left the band. Album title "So". Peter had to prove he could hit the big time too and he certainly did.
@wendellwiggins3776
@wendellwiggins3776 2 жыл бұрын
FUNKY GABRIEL!!!! I loved this jam when Pete hit it out of the park with a Pop yet very cool hip 80's groove. Here he also became a huge imaginative Music Video Star with this song!!!!
@RedPillMode
@RedPillMode 2 жыл бұрын
This was a huge hit. Check out the gorgeous video too. Its pop, but its no way less intelligent than earlier stuff. He set the target to be succesfull, and so he did. After that, popularity was not as high on the list.
@robertcartier5088
@robertcartier5088 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! Can't wait 'til you get to "Biko"! ;-]
@johnpbh
@johnpbh 2 жыл бұрын
JP - The drum stick bass is where Tony tapes cut down drum sticks to his fingers and then he plays the bass by tapping the strings with the sticks.... It's amazing. There will be plenty of tracks on youtube showing Tony using them.
@compuspex
@compuspex 2 жыл бұрын
Correct. But I believe this is where it started -- Marotta was tapping Levin's strings with his drumsticks here, and it gave Levin the idea to tape the sticks to his fingers to get that sound going forward.
@johnpbh
@johnpbh 2 жыл бұрын
@@compuspex Thanks Scott..
@waynedavenport6053
@waynedavenport6053 2 жыл бұрын
There is a KZbin video of Peter in concert in Greece doing Solsbury Hill which shows Peter and his band having fun, yet still giving an outstanding rendition true to the album of the song, you should try it out.
@dumdumbush
@dumdumbush 2 жыл бұрын
"Sledgehammer" got most of the airplay in the dance clubs. I'm amazed how many people don't understand that this is satire.
@jaymez3461
@jaymez3461 2 жыл бұрын
You really need to see the music video for this song.
@mariflame1821
@mariflame1821 2 жыл бұрын
I just remember the crazy music video to this song. Much better songs on the 80s.
@jamesdignanmusic2765
@jamesdignanmusic2765 2 жыл бұрын
Great funky sound... and a great video if you get the chance to see it. One of PG's biggest solo hits, and the culmination of a style he started with the song "I Have the Touch". He tried to repeat the formula on his song "Steam", which was also a hit but a bit too similar to this one IMO. "Sledgehammer" was his other big hit in this style.
@bartstarr100
@bartstarr100 2 жыл бұрын
I felt like this exactly in 1986, when this song came out. I left that small town and didn't go back except to visit the yokels. I know the song is about pretense, but I still embraced my own absurdity, I'm still that country boy, but to me, I was taking the chance that most of my family weren't brave enough to try.
@gazza8127
@gazza8127 2 жыл бұрын
When he did anything remotely commercial like everything else he did it was his way so what you got was totally unique. "Sledgehammer" , "Shock the Monkey" , "Don't give up" & "Big Time" all so conceptually original. Tony Levin is really motorin' on this one. I think that bass, stick, drum description refers to Levin using those finger extensions which he uses to tap the bass strings, he must also be laying down a chapman 'stick' track, Jerry Marotta may also be using the drum sticks to tap bass strings? In any case the bass &'rhythm work on this track is superb. Cheers
@tdog9818
@tdog9818 2 жыл бұрын
So, Invisible Touch, 90125, Big Generator. My gateway albums to their creator’s storied past. After 35 years or so, I still love these albums!
@traci4187
@traci4187 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the official video sometime. Besides being hilarious, it was also pretty epic for the time. It must have cost him a small fortune to make!
@billdemudd6697
@billdemudd6697 2 жыл бұрын
i was there,clubs and pub jukeboxes lots of wing-tipped collar mauve shirts,thin white leather ties and loafers with tassles lol
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 2 жыл бұрын
And cocaine. Don’t forget the cocaine..
@billdemudd6697
@billdemudd6697 2 жыл бұрын
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 yep,and the durophet 'black bombers' and the moroccan red seal too lol!
@keithbk
@keithbk 2 жыл бұрын
Peter Gabriel's "So" was both a commercial and critical success. It was undoubtedly the high point of his career. It was more consistent than the next album, "Us," while being better produced than his prior albums. There wasn't a weak song on "So." My favorite SONG by Peter Gabriel would be on the next album (Us) with "Digging in the Dirt," but that album as a whole is simply no match for this one.
@David-iv6je
@David-iv6je 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure about earnings, but a lot of folks consider US to be just as good as So. And then there is the soundtrack to Passion, whiich is infreakincredible.
@keithbk
@keithbk 2 жыл бұрын
@@David-iv6je Sales of So: 6.9 million; Sales of Us: 2.3 million. So remains Gabriel's best-selling title.
@David-iv6je
@David-iv6je 2 жыл бұрын
@@keithbk Thanks. Not sure I'd all it his best record though. I'd rank Us and Passion as a little higher. And maybe even Security (4) as tied. But all so different!
@kenl2091
@kenl2091 2 жыл бұрын
You could argue that Peter Gabriel's solo output moved from prog to the same pop realm that Genesis occupied in the eighties and this is a prime example (as is Sledgehammer, obvs) BUT Gabriel's pop was so much superior and cleverer than Genesis's (in my opinion, as always!)
@daveking9393
@daveking9393 2 жыл бұрын
I will second that opinion
@lemming9984
@lemming9984 2 жыл бұрын
Mmmn, yeah. I saw PG on this tour, it seemed 60+% of the audience were there for Big Time and Sledgehammer alone. Hardly any applause for the older stuff. This was the last album I heard from PG.
@MattLathrum
@MattLathrum 2 жыл бұрын
@@lemming9984 He's got so much good stuff after this. It's worth checking out. Up is not commercial.
@Azabaxe80
@Azabaxe80 2 жыл бұрын
@@lemming9984 Wow! Really? Us, Up and Secret World Live are such gems!
@rk41gator
@rk41gator 2 жыл бұрын
You had me until you go to 'so much superior'. Different, both good. The whole 'sell out thing' many try to lay on Phil Collins is bs. Peter 'sold out' too. Gabriel is a creative genius.
@IanHillan
@IanHillan 2 жыл бұрын
This album is an 80s pop masterpiece, so much better than anyone would have expected it to be.
@jonsmith9518
@jonsmith9518 2 жыл бұрын
Saw him twice on this tour. This album made him a mega star. The tour production was awesome as well.
@danielnovak4284
@danielnovak4284 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this! A very good discussion about this. God bless you!
@JustJP
@JustJP Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Daniel!
@lourenzi8820
@lourenzi8820 2 жыл бұрын
Should do Mother of Violence.
@annewoodard6803
@annewoodard6803 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best albums of Peter Gabriel. We played the whole album too. I saw Peter Gabrielon his “So” tour at the Hollywood Bowl. Unbelievable show! 😁❤️
@sadcosmonaut
@sadcosmonaut 2 жыл бұрын
Gabriel, Genesis and Hackett's GTR ruled the charts simultaneously in 1986 - a complete domination by the current and former members of the same band.
@bunnytarot
@bunnytarot Жыл бұрын
One of the uniquest male vocalists ever, with the most beautifully strange harmonies
@jaybird4093
@jaybird4093 2 жыл бұрын
I was never a club person so I couldn’t tell you if this was played. I hung out with small groups at the beach, or in the woods, or in fields beneath the stars. Regardless of the location, this album was played either from a boom box or a car stereo. My first conscious exposure to Peter Gabriel was So, so I’m fine with the music and style.
@spiderbass65
@spiderbass65 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the only Gabriel tune I don’t care for. LOVE the Kate T-shirt!
@gaiaeternal5131
@gaiaeternal5131 2 жыл бұрын
Afternoon, Justin. Dave from London. Mainstream - For The Masses In Consumer Land. That's what Kansas sang about, not being keen to move to the more commercial. The thing about PG with So is that his commercial songs were every bit a good as the other chart stuff. Love the funky groove to Big Time, which is about being an 80s yuppie.
@piershollott339
@piershollott339 2 жыл бұрын
This is, what, Jerry Marotta playing Tony Levin's bass strings with drumsticks? That's so cool, right? And that inspired Levin to tape drumsticks to his fingers, which eventually became extended fingers. Pure brilliance. I saw Yo La Tengo do something similar back in the day when they opened for My Bloody Valentine. Very cool.
@WTFungus
@WTFungus 2 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere, when this song first came out, that PG wrote the song about Phil Collins. I don't know if that's true, though.
@arielquarante
@arielquarante 2 жыл бұрын
Yessssss ! This was BIG. Thank you again !
@blitztim6416
@blitztim6416 2 жыл бұрын
Love this song. First heard it while playing Frisbee golf at a park. There was a Frisbee dog catching competition going on. It was played very loud on a PA system. I hadn’t heard the album even tho I had been a big Peter Gabriel fan. But I was over him. From this point I could no longer see him in a small club. Now he was popular. But the song is great.
@j.dragon651
@j.dragon651 2 жыл бұрын
At first glance the music sounds pretty complicated but when broken down it is pretty simple. It is hard to do that. Got to see him twice with Genesis, never saw a solo show.
@FLASHAHOLIC_TV
@FLASHAHOLIC_TV 2 жыл бұрын
💣 👖 getting closer....
@neilhinks5734
@neilhinks5734 2 жыл бұрын
Superb review Justin... it is a great pop song...catchy.. groovy.. awesome musicianship too. Loved this track.♥️
@courtneywallace871
@courtneywallace871 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you couldn’t help yourself from moving. I love PG so much! Thx Justin! If you like artists trying different styles, then that’s just another reason for you to get into more Todd Rundgren.
@jeffschielka7845
@jeffschielka7845 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Justin! Big Time was another great song from a masterful album. Played a lot on MTV, definitely helped with the sales of So.😎
@git606
@git606 2 жыл бұрын
The video to this is a hoot 😂
@saturninebear
@saturninebear 2 жыл бұрын
The production on this one is amazing. Possibly my favourite track on an excellent album.
@jacksonmorganfroghin4815
@jacksonmorganfroghin4815 2 жыл бұрын
HI THERE! Thanks JP for doing this song, one of my favorites along with In Your Eyes and Sledgehammer. The video for Big Time is really good. Also another similar type song is STEAM. Great video with that one as well. His contribution to Genesis is undeniable. Truly a legend. That word is overused but nonetheless true. Thank you. BYE NOW!
@gog583
@gog583 2 жыл бұрын
The album titles "So" and "Cured" by Steve Hackett, I took as meaning a departure from the more darker matter of the earlier CD's. So?
@minty_Joe
@minty_Joe 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta give credit to Peter's choices of backing musicians featured on this album and US. David Rhoads on guitar and Tony Levin on bass.
@BrianKapellusch
@BrianKapellusch 2 жыл бұрын
It peaked at #8 in 1986, so it doesn't get much love from reaction channels. I like it better than Sledgehammer though, and it's probably somewhere in my top 10 80's tracks. The bass is just SO GOOD.
@14gilbertst
@14gilbertst 2 жыл бұрын
The video is worth seeing! Wildly creative. [This must be about 12 years after he left Genesis and each solo album is a progression artistically. (No complaints here.)]
@brumleyhall
@brumleyhall 2 жыл бұрын
Peter paved the way for this change with "Shock the Monkey" on the previous album,, which did really well on MTV.
@TRANZEURO
@TRANZEURO 2 жыл бұрын
I kind of see what you're saying but I would say that 'Shock The Monkey' was still slightly weird and experimental in comparison to this.
@utubernow1
@utubernow1 2 жыл бұрын
Leave it to Peter Gabriel to make a sell out record that makes fun of selling out. The video is way over the top also. Great album, great reaction. Thank! ✌
@Sponiwolf
@Sponiwolf 2 жыл бұрын
DrumStickBass? Well, Levin played his bass guitar with drumsticks, attached to his fingers with tape :D What a guy ... ❤ Yeah, what a banger! Still sounds fresh, not like a 35 year old song. But what do I know, I'm old 😄👍🏾 Thanks for the videos, even if I don't watch them all.
@alencar5420
@alencar5420 2 жыл бұрын
Great pop song and another great analysis. Thanks ✌️
@bungalowmo
@bungalowmo 2 жыл бұрын
He was truly a blast back in the day! His videos were just made for MTV. Back when it was actually about the music & not lame reality shows.
@michaelbaucom4019
@michaelbaucom4019 2 жыл бұрын
A well-crafted pop song...just accept it as that, no need to overanalyze, no need to lament that " it isn't as good as the old stuff " or " he sold out" or " it is too commercial" . It pays the light bill( paraphrasing actor Michael Caine, when he was asked why he did so many " bad movies ").
@andrewouellette4998
@andrewouellette4998 2 жыл бұрын
Tony Levin definitely gets his groove in with his bass play. He may be using his "funky fingers" to produce the tapping that you had mentioned. He uses this technique often.
@David-iv6je
@David-iv6je 2 жыл бұрын
I think this was the track for which he developed the funk fingers
@aka.Mr.French
@aka.Mr.French 2 жыл бұрын
yep, this track led to the development of Levin's "Funk Fingers," but they didn't exist yet. Levin has stated that on this recording, in that one little section at the end of the first verse, he fretted the notes on a bass guitar while drummer Jerry Marotta tapped the strings with drumsticks -- which is why, as JP noted, Jerry and Tony are credited with "drumstick bass." :)
@johnmavroudis2054
@johnmavroudis2054 2 жыл бұрын
Peter Gabriel ALWAYS loved Motown... and this has Motown written all over it. I never had a problem with his commercial success, because he never compromised his principles. He was always pretty pure. While "So" is not my favorite album, one cannot deny its brilliance.
@thomassharmer7127
@thomassharmer7127 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who grew up on 70s progressive rock, I love this album. If you're going to go 'pop', this is how to do it - both catchy and clever. Levin's 'drumstick bass' meant that he taped drum sticks to the fingers of his right hand and hit the bass strings with them rather than pluck them - hence the sharp, rhythmic bass sound. It's all wonderfully produced and very experimental without losing mass appeal. It taps into the 80s vibe while subtly sending up the vaunting ambition and exaggerated self belief of the zeitgeist. I always think the final line has a brilliantly ironic double meaning: a man boasting about his masculine endowment and prowess, but also the unconscious presentiment of an imminent heart attack or embolism brought on by his excessive lifestyle. The listener can fill in the blank as they wish ...
@sphericalharmony1603
@sphericalharmony1603 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this was a hit single that got a lot of airplay. Not the kind of thing that I was into at the time but obviously very well done. Your mention of bands that took a big change in direction made me think of Radiohead. You've reacted to some of Ok Computer, which was critically acclaimed, but their next album, Kid A, went in a different direction, one might say a more experimental direction. It's certainly one of my favourites from Radiohead.
@davidlane1169
@davidlane1169 2 жыл бұрын
'Ole Audiophile to JP: So was huge as was US right after. What really took the nation by storm was Secret World Live, just after both those studio albums. I've never been so captivated by a live recording in my entire existence as an audiophile until Secret World came along. Paula Cole was huge in this performance, it would not been near the same quality without her. If one's going to listen to anything from So or Us, I suggest you play Secret World instead, you'll never be disappointed.
@davidlane1169
@davidlane1169 2 жыл бұрын
I'm an 5th generation audiophile for cripes sake, I ALWAYS endorse studio over live...except Peter Gabriel. He's different & some...
@jeremyb5640
@jeremyb5640 2 жыл бұрын
Gabriel’s Big Time was everywhere in 1987, helped by an iconic video. I don't recall as much criticism of him for embracing synth pop as Genesis received though. Partly because Phil was *everywhere* with both a solo career & tours and albums with Genesis in between. There was rarely a time when Phil didn't have something out. You make an excellent observation about how 60s and 70s artists negotiated the new musical landscape of the mid 80s. Some really struggled, others embraced change, notably Gabriel (So), Paul Simon (Graceland) and George Harrison (Cloud 9) among others. After a strong start with McCartney II and Tug of War, Paul McCartney floundered a little and enlisted Hugh Padgham as producer in 1986 to try to tap into some of the hit making potential evident in his work with Genesis. The resulting McCartney album 'Press To Play' really divides fans but shows McCartney attempting new things. It's a fascinating record as a result, even if some tracks fall short. Eventually, another collaboration, this time with Elvis Costello, helped turn McCartney's fortunes around by the end of the decade as he rediscovered his mojo.
@bobholtzmann
@bobholtzmann 2 жыл бұрын
The music video for this song is okay, it used lots of video screen control effects. "Big Time" was also used in the opening of the Academy Award winning documentary film Inside Job, about the bank collapse of 2009, to a very chilling effect.
@kengregory6026
@kengregory6026 2 жыл бұрын
brilliant ..love Tony Levin's bass
@davidbull7210
@davidbull7210 2 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough this one isn't as celebrated as some of the others. It had a similar clay animated video which I think is actually better than the one for Sledgehammer. It's a sort of sequel to I Have the Touch, from his fourth album.
@williameckert1623
@williameckert1623 2 жыл бұрын
This is the song where Tony Levin invented the funk fingers.
@ramaaditta2446
@ramaaditta2446 Жыл бұрын
And its Steward Copeland on drums..... Thank You
@jeffschielka7845
@jeffschielka7845 2 жыл бұрын
Justin check out the dvd BACK TO FRONT. It is the 25th anniversary tour of So. This DVD is PHENOMENAL!!!😎
@richardbailey1295
@richardbailey1295 2 жыл бұрын
One of my top Gabriel tunes! Bassist Tony Levin.
@richardbailey1295
@richardbailey1295 2 жыл бұрын
Peter Gabriel showed the rest of the world how it should be done. Was a trend maker.
@richardbailey1295
@richardbailey1295 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know Todd Rundgren? I recommend 'Love Factory' from his Second Wind album.
@richardbailey1295
@richardbailey1295 2 жыл бұрын
drumstick bass was an invention of Tony Levin....you can order the tiny drumsticks from him...put them on your fingers and drum the bass guitar.....4real
@richardbailey1295
@richardbailey1295 2 жыл бұрын
And my heaven will be a big hell....and I will walk through the front door.
@maruad7577
@maruad7577 2 жыл бұрын
Dance music. Man has to make a living guess.
@davidheiser2225
@davidheiser2225 2 жыл бұрын
As Peter Gabriel's music veered a bit closer to the mainstream, his music videos were nonetheless some of the most innovative and ambitious, continuing to reflect his "arty" or "proggy" sensibilities.
@MisterWondrous
@MisterWondrous 2 жыл бұрын
Middle '80s mentality, and music, actually, which of course is how he should have played it. Orlando must surely be like Charlotte with the megachurch phenomenon. The Big Church with The Big God. What saved me, much earlier, was a magus at a party who said the four words "It's quality, not quantity", after I bitched about there not being much to drink, expecting kegs of pre-urine, and blind to the outstanding choices in a few select bottles. Love the bit about stretching his mouth to let the big words come right out. "We Do What We're Told (Milgram's 37)" is probably the most profound song on that album, about which there have been some fine movies made. "The Tenth Level" comes to mind. It is about those experiments where they pretended to be torturing individuals, electrically, for giving wrong answers...and then seeing to what level folks will go. Some go all the way to 10. Some do not even get to 1. Kohlberg's Theory of Moral Development was based on the study this song talks about.
@papalaz4444244
@papalaz4444244 2 жыл бұрын
Ask yourself this: If this came out TODAY, would it go to #1? Is it "old fashioned"?
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