Peter Windsor: Lando Will Lose The Championship Because Of McLaren!

[@OzKiwi2]

Max wasn't fighting for 3rd, he was fighting to stay in front of Lando. Nothing else matters for the championship.

[@michaeldellorso889]

And he had no realistic chance to beat the Ferrari’s

[@Buenossss]

Exactly

[@aoife1122]

Well, yes and no... we all know how hard he was fighting with Schumacher over P7 in his "wounded" car or how "unpleased" he was with Lawson holding him up in Singapore last year (saving Leclerc's sorry behind in P4).

[@Cameron-Cc]

very good points. very well made dj.

[@willemhaifetz-chen1588]

Yes and soon Charles will be nr 2 in the championship.

[@mohammedaneeskhan790]

Norris was behind at the Apex, there is no way you can pass off the track. Norris should have done a cut back. Max and Alonso are in a different league when it comes to the art of defence.

[@tuna5618]

Yeah people are ignoring what the rules say just so they can get mad at max, but max played lando like a fiddle.

[@LordVader1887]

Alonso stays on the track. Don't compare Max to Alonso.

[@Ron_Real]

@@LordVader1887 That´s why he has less championships 🤣 You´re right do9n´t compare Alonso with Max-

[@DK-vw1of]

@@LordVader1887 hahahaha you have never watched alonso race

[@permanentlybored195]

Thats why he loses so many positions i guess ​@@LordVader1887

[@permanentlybored195]

Lando keeps getting pole on the wrong circuit is the biggest amount of copium i have heard in a while.

[@darwinmorgan6690]

Even if we consider the Austin track to be prone to not guarantee P1 after first lap, the fact that Norris got overtaken not once, not twice, but THRICE speaks on the level between him and other drivers (Max and Charles)

[@kallekula84]

@@permanentlybored195 Austin is definitely the worst track on the calendar to get pole on. Especially with someone like Max on the inside. Max drove Leclerc off track last year and did the same to Lando this year.

[@caro2501]

@@kallekula84well Max had pole in the Sprint and guess who came out of that first corner on top? Yes, Max did!

[@user-tq2og9cw7q]

Imagine Max in the McLaren and Lando in the RB and the same battle, not a chance Max had failed to win the last five races in that car. Lando is not particularly remarkable, you cannot praise a driver for being good at avoiding collisions. Lando is nowhere near Max. I wonder how Max thought about the start, because if you see how he takes the fight with Lando, he gives Ferrari an open street to take the lead. Max would rather see Ferrari lead and then minimize the points loss to Lando, which he does if he keeps Lando out of the win. Lando is not mentally as strong as Max and he is a significantly worse driver than Russel and Leclerc. Lando is in a good car and he doesn't capitalize very much on what the car can give him. He is not a driver who should be in the fight for a WC. It's Leclerc and Russel and soon Piastri.

[@ashitkotian2396]

You would have seen a 2023 level domination with Max in the Maca.

[@Milkywayboy]

Max would have won 90% of the races this year

[@guneytopal1713]

If you swapped drivers Max would be 100+ points clear and would probably be 1 win away from wrapping up the WDC

[@DontuseGoogleorWiki]

I have to say that I've seen it that way for nearly two years - although I'm surprised you include Russell who I think makes too many mistakes - al

[@user-tq2og9cw7q]

@@DontuseGoogleorWiki yes. Bur give him time. Not all racers are the developed like Max at such a young age.

[@ljnouata9088]

Peter not criticizing Lando’s starts despite 6 years in F1 is hilarious.

[@AZBCDE]

So Lewis fans say Lewis’s wins are down to the driver but when he makes a driver error it’s always the car, REALLY?

[@Dam_Noir]

There's a genuine belief amongst some of his fans that's he's infallible.

[@A2906-o8q]

​@Dam_Noir I guess it worked pre 2021

[@Aemond2024]

Theyre fkn hilarious

[@bjrnchrstn]

@@A2906-o8qin a car worth 40 million more than any other on track. That’s like you in a Ferrari racing me in a Fiat. Not so impressive is it?!

[@A2906-o8q]

@bjrnchrstn not one bit , I won't feel satisfied doing that

[@Aemond2024]

If Peter Windsor doesnt start to criticize Norris for his poor performances he is not to be taken seriously

[@A2906-o8q]

@Aemond2024 now relax brother, some people find it hard to publicly criticize , Mr Windsor ain't built like that

[@mohammedcassim1816]

He is British and so is lando. Just look how the crofty and co ALWAYS glaze British drivers

[@Roguescienceguy]

Well, pacewise he is fast enough. But it's true that the other assets if his repertoire are woefully underdeveloped compared to his rival. This season will have thought him alot.

[@paradiddlesixix7530]

i mean, lando probably could have passed any driver that wasnt seriously going to take him out if he did.

[@brodiefurber2483]

@@mohammedcassim1816 Windsor is actually Australian. But he’s been glazing lando too much.

[@TjopStick]

Norris needs to watch his back instead of looking to Max. Leclerc is hunting for P2!

[@Sam-fs8sx]

Norris needs to do what Lewis did in Silverstone 2021, don't let Max bully you son!

[@user-tr1hx7jx4r]

Charles having the same amount of wins this year as Norris is crazy that Mclaren has been the best car most of the year and that Ferrari maybe for like 2 races

[@dylanburston7453]

In reality just once, here in COTA (they were probabaly fastest in Monaco, but by such a small margin it isnt worth mentioning)

[@michaeldellorso889]

Ferrari have been fastest more than that (Melbourne, Monaco, Baku, COTA) but McLaren should have double their five wins.

[@elianioriofarrell]

Tell me what other races ferrari were fastest at​@@michaeldellorso889

[@joepzenz]

@@michaeldellorso889 Wrong, nothing to prove that they were the fastest in Melbourne, at Baku Charles is just a monster around that track he flattered that car, McLaren had the fastest package in Baku overall. Not to mention McLaren had a cheating rear wing..

[@michaeldellorso889]

@@joepzenz nothing to prove? 🤣. Other than the 1-2? Ferrari got done by McLaren strategy and Charles’ poor defending in Baku

[@alvmusic4402]

Lando lost the championship because of himself and nothing else. When he has the best car and qualifies P1, most of the times minus one he'll lose it by the first corner. In contrast to Verstappen, who will end up P1 most of the times even with the third best car. Norris isn't ready and it hurts me to say it as a mclaren fan but hes always the one backing off, avoiding accidents, and giving opponents full control of the situation. Verstappen is manhandling him race after race.

[@Gez492]

Lando is as much to blame as his team for not winning the WDC. Perhaps even more so

[@AwkwardLeon69420]

Lando has lost it all on his own, how many starts has he bottled? He made too many mistakes and won't ever be a champion unless his car is a second ahead

[@V8VRUte]

@@AwkwardLeon69420 Absolutely. Champions don't make these easy mistakes that Lando keeps making. Last lap in the sprint, Locking up and letting Sainz through, almost letting Charles through as well, then the start in the GP, leaving the door wide open like he did was a rookie mistake. And McLaren... Not correctly calling the leaving the track call, and not telling him to give the place back and have another crack at it... The teams not acting like Champions either.

[@andrewhazlewood4569]

And by then Oscar will be as fast a driver but a much better racer.

[@calistastudio1651]

@@andrewhazlewood4569 I think you are right

[@eduardhenny1]

Lando doesn't have "it" , super driver but just lacks that 1%. Hamilton, Alonso, Piasti, Leclerc, and surely Verstappen have it.

[@GTE_Channel]

Piastri hasn't proven himself to be regarded as top of the bunch I.m.o

[@BeauSelisker]

@@eduardhenny1 you had me till you mentioned Leclerc in this list.

[@aaronyogurt8723]

@@BeauSelisker won the same amount of race as Lando with lesser car

[@sturod2016]

@@GTE_Channel Agree ... but you have to admit he does look like he has the necessary non racing qualities that the others in your list have. He now just needs to hone his racecraft which he appears to be doing at a rapid pace.

[@michaelcobbin]

@@GTE_Channel Piastri has demonstrated similar qualities that Alonso, Leclerc and Verstappen demonstrated in their second season in F1. Hamilton was a step ahead of the other drivers on the list in his second season. Piastri has that killer instinct, remains cool under pressure and has a more strategic mind set than Norris. Yes, Piastri needs to get better at qualifying.

[@maxbaisch2924]

Peter gets a bit too emotional about defending Lando the last few races. Taking about taking T19 is 6th gear over and over again like it’s the same as taking pole Monaco.

[@ytaltacc8008]

32:14 Marko: Lando is not as mentally strong as Verstappen. Zak: What are you talking about, he advocates for mental health! Peter: How can Marko say that? Look at Lando, he took T19 in 6th gear! ???

[@lm-178]

I find it baffling how he refuses to see any downsides to Lando. Also Zak Brown not being able to differentiate between mental health and mental strength is annoying. And then Peter did the dumbest counter argument I ever heard.

[@ThommyOcho]

@@lm-178that was my first thought: Marko has a point. Lando has had some slip ups, as did McLaren. They are not sqeenzing everything out to maximise their potential. And it costed them 10 points or more, easy. Only in Austin it was a 6 point swing. Or letting Oscar win, or let have Oscar p2 or so in Monza.

[@SimBizzzz]

come on Peter, of course everyone has the right to have their own opinion but don't say that Lando is better than Max bescuse if he was the WDC would have been done and dusted right know and second he couldn't even pass Max with a much faster car and third if Max was driving the Mclaren it would have been 2023 all over again

[@Aemond2024]

Wait what does he say Lando is better than Max? 😂😂😂 That just means he is dishonest. Only a drunken moron would say that

[@MonikavanderWesthuizen-nw4jm]

Yes, wake up Mr Windsor‼

[@Milkywayboy]

Max didn’t want 3rd He wanted to finish ahead of lando

[@daarom3472]

hey Osama!

[@bigmomomomomo]

not the teams fault that Lando binned it from pole yet again - he aint that guy ! boy in a mans game!!!

[@Toro_Da_Corsa]

Its not like your boy Piasti was lighting the world on fire either. Or your boy Hamilton.

[@sammoore3687]

@@Toro_Da_Corsawe ain’t talking about them, stop deflecting. Lando isn’t a great driver

[@tuna5618]

@@Toro_Da_Corsa deflection

[@abiolamustafa9054]

@@Toro_Da_Corsano one mentioned them lmao💀

[@permanentlybored195]

My boy charles was though​@@Toro_Da_Corsa

[@Warlun888]

Lando got to challenge the Championship BECAUSE of Mclaren. Redbull is still WINNING the WDC is BECAUSE of Verstappen. That is the difference.

[@Toro_Da_Corsa]

Driver of the day , George Russell. Pit lane to 6th, beating Perez with a 5 second penalty.

[@soholingo]

Yeah that is really impressive, Russell can drive

[@CraigF1995]

​@soholingo my boy just needs to find that consistency and merc need to stop fking around with mediocre cars

[@gameofender4463]

@@CraigF1995I think he’s got the consistency. Dude obliterated Norris by 68 points in F2. It’s just the car that needs to be consistent.

[@CraigF1995]

@@gameofender4463 yeah he's got the raw pace and knows how to put a championship run together. But as a fan of his since his first Williams season, too many times he has that bottle moment. Sometimes its not even his fault like spa... kills me

[@Gez492]

Perez old old hard tyres Russell on good mediums not really a contest

He will lose the championship because he is not good enough.

[@MonikavanderWesthuizen-nw4jm]

Yesssss 💯

[@merlitaalvesm2471]

So true , he don’t have a Mentally of a winner

[@VC9224]

The Verstappen Norris fight was a masterclass in defending by Max. Say what you want about him, he is a level above the rest.

[@teflon1216]

In a nutshell, Max is a pitbull and Lando is a labrador.

[@Sam-fs8sx]

Good to see Lando upgraded. He was a Chihuahua last year, opening his legs wide every time Max was behind him

[@MonikavanderWesthuizen-nw4jm]

No, i think Lando is a Jack Russell 🐕🐕🐕🐕waf waf waf waf waffffff 🤡🤡🤡🤡waf waf waffff🤣

[@BOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOB69]

But I like Labradors.

[@joepzenz]

I am here for my weekly request for Cam to put some Respect on the name Charles Marc Hervé Perceval Leclerc

[@ags911]

Lando left the door wide open for his mate. Quick around a qualifying lap but he lacks the race craft. Similar to George Russell ironically.

[@gameofender4463]

Nah, put some respect on George’s name. George is ruthless in W2W/racecraft. Look at how George battles Max at Spain or Brazil 2022. Or Max at Baku 2023. Or Lando at Spain 2024. Don’t forget George at Qatar last season or literally George at Belgium or COTA this season. George is miles better at racecraft than Lando.

[@ags911]

@@gameofender4463 He’s better than Norris at fighting from the middle of the pack, but I mean in terms of starting from P1 and finishing in P1. He usually has bad race starts and makes mistakes in the race.

[@gameofender4463]

⁠@@ags911George usually has great starts. Whenever he’s started on pole. He’s been great. Brazil, won. Canada, wasn’t until the conditions changed, and Silverstone he had car issues outside of his control. Compare and contrast with Lando. And George doesn’t make many mistakes in the race. It’s ridiculous to put it on George when a legend like Lewis makes mistakes too. The car is simply hard to handle.

[@ags911]

@@gameofender4463 I guess so. I know he’s called Mr Saturday for a reason. He is still raw but he just needs to have a stable car and some consistency in the team. He was super rapid in his W11 stand in, so it will be interesting to see if he ever fights for a championship one day.

[@michaeldellorso889]

Lando is a fantastic driver, but far from Max’s level. It’s Lando and Charles after Max. Unfortunately for those two, they have not earned Max’s position where the team is totally based around him. That will always cost them points to their teammates.

[@GrizeldaOConnor]

Not now after Brazil

[@devjason7298]

You can’t blame McLaren for everything, maybe 30%. Lando has given up a pole finish and came in 4th.

[@Adam-ik4wf]

And McLaren told Oscar to slow down in the end because if he didn't Lando would of been fifth 👍

[@TheRobstar1983]

@@Adam-ik4wf they just had to pit Oscar, and take point for fastest lap. He had 35 seconds.

[@Adam-ik4wf]

@@TheRobstar1983 yeah they could of 👍

[@as0or83]

⁠@@Adam-ik4wf they thought max was getting a penalty so they told him to catch up to max 🤣 then when the penalty was given to Lando they told him to slow down again

[@Adam-ik4wf]

@@as0or83 yeah they think a bit crazy 🤪 on the McLaren pit wall 😆

[@CmdrVOODOO]

Lando, in his much faster car reminds me of Albon when he drove for Red Bull. He had the grip to make passes on most other drivers on the outside, or because drivers in much slower cars aren't fighting him they'd just let him by rather than using up their tires fighting him. But when it comes to racing another top driver in a good car he's always trying to pass on the outside rather than braking early and cutting underneath.

[@d.x4059]

Lando never deserved to win a championship in first place.

[@michaeldellorso889]

Ya, but a great portion of F1 championships haven’t been won by the best driver

[@calistastudio1651]

@@michaeldellorso889 Not the last 3 years

[@michaeldellorso889]

@@calistastudio1651 ok…

[@d.x4059]

@@michaeldellorso889 in my eyes and not only Lando is not worth to become champion. He wants to win Championship with 3 victories? No it won’t happen

[@Warlun888]

@@calistastudio1651 I guess we should leave the Championship winners to the ones that hold a British passport. Cos that seems like the only criteria thats needed.

[@KimJongsMom]

Lando is a clear no2 in the realms of maximum verstappen

[@daarom3472]

Max is a machine. I recently heard that when he came home from Baku 2023 he told his father he was NEVER going to lose a race to Sergio again. Guess what 35 races on...

[@A2906-o8q]

​@@daarom3472 you kinda got to keep to promises you make to Jos😅

[@daarom3472]

@@A2906-o8q Jos left Max at the airport :/

[@miniboard1]

@@daarom3472Was a gas station…

[@daarom3472]

@@miniboard1 when they were young. But when Max lost at Baku Jos left him at the airport!

[@walkdaddy4592]

Regarding Landon, pressure bust pipes! What he is experiencing is the pressure of expectations at another level relative to Lewis and Max. That Championship level expectation. At least that's what I think.

[@joedutchnl3948]

The difference between the rules in the attacking or defending car and if you are ahead at the apex. Max was defending and was ahead of the apex therefore norris had no right of way on that corner. Norris was therefore not forced off track. Max had a tracklimits for not making the corner and norris, but he overtoke off track because it was not his corner. Therefore the penalty and mclaren did not handle it right. George was attacking on bottas different instance. I don't think the rules are right, but these are what they are. I believe car on the inside has right of way always. Makes it hard for overtaking but easy to judge. And if you divebomb you need to make the corner for not forcing somebody off. If you make it good for you. The outside guy should have defended the inside.

[@DineshKumar-iu5pl]

Good points, lot of biased ppl just beat around the bush as they are biased because of a region specificity.

[@gualterrocha9224]

Unfortunately, Peter became a Lando fan and lost the unbiased opinion… it’s like to hear some fanboy without any knowledge. Lando is nowhere near Max! He can’t deal with pressure, does amateurish errors, even with 15s advantage! The best part is, Lando is getting the wrong poles !!! OMG

[@sturod2016]

Windsor has invested so much of his diminishing brand in Lando that even his incredible arrogance can’t reverse. I am only here to watch the continuing trainwreck that is Windsor's 20/20 hindsight analysis. Goatiest GOAT ... What a joke.

[@MonikavanderWesthuizen-nw4jm]

WRONG POLES 🤔 😁😁😁 Maybe Lando should try to start at the wasline pole 🤣🤣🤣🤡 there will be no Max!! Leka Norris 🤪

[@justlookingaround9834]

Are you actually listening to what he is saying? I think your bias is in the way.

[@raykowlessar6697]

Windsor really gives an interesting analysis. Thanks for having him Cam. He is helping all of us grow as f1 fans.

[@Cameron-Cc]

He's the goat. Glad you enjoyed.

[@sturod2016]

I can't stand Windsor. Arrogant, full of himself and a unashamed Lando fanboi.

[@francoisbekker4857]

Cameron is right and Peter is wrong

[@MonikavanderWesthuizen-nw4jm]

CAMERON you are a CHAMP 💪🏻💯🥇🏆 Wise, very wise I LIKE YOU sir 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻 From SA 🇿🇦

[@brembopollypor9965]

Compare Max’s start in the sprint race to Lando’s start in the main, tells you all you need to know. And the best way to end these endless discussions like about what happened at turn 12 is to put grass or similar stuff on the outside. Is also ok for Moto GP. Just have a look at Assen, raced there myself for years on two wheels, perfectly safe and never even seen a bike (or car) overtake through the grass😂.

[@marksutherlandjr.2121]

Among all the shows one could compete with. These episodes with Cam and Peter!? Flat-Out the Best Damn Formula One Broadcast currently going. Take that To the BANK!!

[@Cameron-Cc]

Ufffff. Let's GOOOOOOOOO Mark. Too kind sir

[@intensebrown]

Lando makes far too many mistakes. Even in the race he won by 20+ seconds he locked up and almost ran into the wall taking out his front wing and ruining his race.

[@Switll72]

That hapend twice in Singapoer!!

[@MonikavanderWesthuizen-nw4jm]

Max is plainly just the BETTER DRIVER GOAT 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻🥇🏆 🤴🏼King of the ring 💥🧡💥🧡💥🧡💥

[@PompeyCoder]

Well done for talking normally Cameron, much easier to listen to. 👍👍

[@rickthacker8750]

It is hard for me to assess because i could never be as dedicated at any one thing as all these F1 drivers are. In my view Max always did well because he had a great car, now I look at what he does with his car, even when Perez is 10 spots behind. I have come around to the sheer talent Max must have to adapt and extract the most out of his attempts. Hats off to RB fans, I believe if you put him in each car, you would get a true look at what the each car could actually achieve.

[@robertjoostens]

It's not only because of mclaren.... lando isn't as good as Max.... hé is good, but Max is the best driver in f1 at the moment...

[@jonharrison8130]

@@robertjoostens max is good because he can get on with driving the car, he knows he has a good team behind him to make the calls and read the race. McLaren this year have been indecisive as hell, the number of points squandered with bad calls and expecting drivers with limited information to make the calls. The leadership has been great away from the track to get the development right but they need a lot of work on race weekends.

[@robertjoostens]

@@jonharrison8130 thats True, but Max in the mclaren this year had won proberly 11 races, because hé knows how to win races.... if his team making the wrong calls, hé correct them... hé did that even at torro rosso when hé didn't let Carlos pass... the 60 anniversary at silverstone, his team wanted him to back off, but hé didn't do that an won the race! Max is more an True winner then Lando... not that Lando isn't fast as an driver, but Max is an more compleet driver...

[@cdb5001]

Max is nothing without the car. Most overrated, dirty chest in the sport.

[@robertjoostens]

@@cdb5001 🤣🤣🤣, you say red Bull is the best car, or max is to good, hé should race with an bicycle against the others???

[@cdb5001]

@@robertjoostens Max has had the best car for the last 3.5 years. Not to mention he had to have Michael Masi cheat on his behalf to win in 2021. Definition of Over-hyped and overrated.

[@ljnouata9088]

Lando got the upgrades at Austin before Piastri did and still only just beat Oscar 💀

[@calistastudio1651]

A few more mistakes and Leclerc will pass Lando in the championship as he is only 22 points behind. And if Lando has to fight Charles you know who will be laughing. If two dogs fight for a bone.......

[@wraitheful]

Clearly - Lando should’ve handed the position back immediately. I was yelling at my tv too - poorly managed considering his tire advantage.

[@gertoverheul9744]

Remember when Max was told to swap with Carlos? "NO'.... Lando needs to start making his own decisions. Otherwise he will remain a racer, not a champion...

[@MonikavanderWesthuizen-nw4jm]

"NO" 🙅🏻‍♀️🙅🏻‍♀️🙅🏻‍♀️🙅🏻‍♀️ finish and klaar "NO"

[@ytaltacc8008]

Lando's car was over half a second faster than Max's and he couldn't overtake for like 10 laps, despite having significant lower deg and newer tires. I really doubt he would be able to overtake Max again, especially considering he didn't do it cleanly the first time around, and he spent 10 laps following closely being Max. Not only running in dirty air forces the driver to overdo it to keep up, but the dirty air is itself really hot from the other car, heating up the tires and the engine.

[@MaCcAM40a3]

This is honestly one of the most idiotic titles I’ve seen in a while. Zero mention of Landos copious errors, lack of racecraft, inability to deal with pressure and everything blaming McLaren😂

Peter needs to accept that Lando doesn't have the killer instinct to become a world champion. I imagine McLaren will rally around Piastri in 2025

[@edgardoMurnia]

I love Piastri. He's not quick enough yet. But he does have the RACING skills that Lando lacks.

[@JC-lu4se]

@@edgardoMurnia He's quick enough but lacks a bit of consistency and qualifying needs to improve.

[@andrewhazlewood4569]

Lando will lose the championship because of Lando. He has lost more points from bad driving than from bad strategy… unlike Oscar

[@MonikavanderWesthuizen-nw4jm]

Funny bunny 🤣😄🤓 so true

[@TommyToboggan611]

Just wanted to say how cool it is that you are working with Peter. I grew up with him on the Speed Channel here in the USA. His voice is part of my childhood. Crazy too see it carry over

[@TommyToboggan611]

The guy is an absolute legend.

[@GeneraIG4]

If Lando doesn’t win the championship it’s on him not the team

[@Freefall984]

Lando is going to lose the championship because of his own driving, he had nearly 10 laps to overtake Max with more pace and he couldn't do it

[@vidtrax662]

No more excuses for Lando. Cmon he lost so many pole position to be in the lead. I rest my case. I’d be glad and surprise should he takes the WDC.

[@edgardoMurnia]

he won't

[@onwithleon]

Always waiting for this one. My favourite to go after the race!

[@DickyBoyYeh]

34:43 Peter come on, not a long time at all. Deluded

[@sharktopus88]

Oh yeah and Yuki is about to get dominated by Lawson and Yuki is going to crash out mentally mark my words “how could this happen” settings haha

[@joshd171294]

Max was great no doubt but Charles’ line he was taking in certain corners was much kinder on his tyres. Driver of the day by far

[@daarom3472]

Charles is the only driver close to Max this season, VERY close actually. Consistently maximized his weekends apart from the 4 weekends after Monaco. If he had scored even 10 points per weekend in those 4 races he'd have had a shot now vs Max.

[@Roguescienceguy]

​@@daarom3472quite similar corners. They probably adapted to eachother 's style while fighting in the juniors.

[@dappadixful]

Easier for Max to defend against Norris than Lewis. Different levels. Lando made Max look good. Norris has the gear but no idea! He will never win a WDC IMHO. OP81 is better than Norris.

[@MonikavanderWesthuizen-nw4jm]

Oscar💯👌🏻💥💥💥💥💥💪🏻

[@SpeedSportsMag.]

McLaren’s radio dialogue is always cringe tmi. Lando’s potential 2024 WDC will forever be laughed at.

[@A2906-o8q]

The way his engineer talks , like he is asking Lando for permission at all times , it's not like at RB or Mercedes were the engineers become firm with the drivers , McLaren also treat their drivers like school kids and not adults

[@SpeedSportsMag.]

@@A2906-o8q Exactly & Lando’s talk about the rules during races seems to put the stewards against him.

[@stevenst6337]

Wasn’t the first battle at that corner this weekend where both cars went off. Difference nobody actually made moves off the track and kept position aside from lap 1 incidents where there is a different rule set for the circumstances. Lando either has to take the inside there once he gets passed, or do a switch back on Max.

[@englishrichards3727]

Lando will lose because of Lando and no one else. All it takes to win championships is a fast car remember He’s had the fastest car since Miami and still gets beat 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@iracingaussie]

Ive been waiting for Cam and Sir Peter to break down the US GP… thank you Cam😊🙏🏼

[@Lukass12891]

Fantastic video Cameron. The authenticity of your content speaks for itself. Thanks.

[@Cameron-Cc]

Lukas! Too kind sir. Thank u

[@stance4life.98]

Too many McLaren fanboys, no way anyone on the grid who doesn’t already have a championship wins one before Charles

[@JC-lu4se]

Depends on the car, mate.

[@Roxak]

Great talk and nice to see two different opinions discussed in a mature way unlike the team bosses or the fanbases of the involved teams.

[@AdrielSilva-lsk]

Lando will lose because Max is just better and have the Lion Mentality

[@lousekoya1803]

Love this man ! Thanks for having him Cameron !

[@RobertDixonTaylor]

Signing Hamilton and "sacking Carlos" is, as Peter said, is absolutely unbelievable! Hamilton's had his day.. 7 world championships! Isn't that enough!! And to be honest I don't think Hamilton will get 8 whatever car he's in!

[@Milkywayboy]

If Norris didn’t get a penalty for going off he should have had a penalty for track limits

[@calistastudio1651]

True

[@TroyConner765]

Great discussion! Happy to follow

[@davidhaworth7152]

Lando needs to hit up Nico Rosberg. If Lando truly wants to hit his true potential he needs to humble himself and seek out any and all info available. Not all world championships are equal. Nico realized that winning a world championship during a prolonged period of Hamilton dominance would take a super human effort and if he pulled it off would be sweeter and more satisfying than any other championship. He left no stone unturned, he stayed monk like in his focus and discipline and he got the job done. Don’t betray your talent Lando by not giving the effort that talent deserves, that’d be mighty disappointing.

[@sharktopus88]

I love these Peter Windsor pods! Great stuff 🔥

[@Cameron-Cc]

Thank you shark top. Peter is the best eh. I love listening to the wisdom

[@paulbradbury7166]

Lando will never win a championship, he can't work out where he should place his car at the first corner of races. To many unforced errors. Of 18 races he’s maintained his position in only 5 of the races and the rest he’s lost places. Watching Lando he doesn’t see the gaps as well as hungry drivers. He overcompensates when trying to defend and makes errors. He usually takes longer than it should to complete overtakes even with a pace advantage. IMO I think Lando is a good driver on the grid when it comes to speed, but i do not rank him close to top 6 when it comes to wheel to wheel. Stats count more than than anything in the ruthlessness of F1.

[@Switll72]

100% Agree!! Imagine having a car faster by one second a lap, newer tyres and DRS in your favour and yet you have to do a illegal overtake after trying for 5 laps out of pure frustration........ And people wants to call him a WDC???

[@Praise_God369]

​@@Switll72 the only illegal thing was car no1 forcing another driver off track ,breaching the FIA sporting code.

[@caro2501]

@@Praise_God369if Lando had not overtaken him of the track the stewards probably would’ve given Max a penalty so Lando was not too clever with that move. And the normal penalty for overtaking off the track is 10 sec. but because they both went off they only gave Lando 5 sec.

[@the_shadow_realm5110]

Norris lacks the killer instinct of a World Champ.

[@Miamiburaz]

McLaren need to hire "Strategy Mommy" aka Hannah Schmitz

[@adrian3355w]

Big brain Hannah 🎉

[@michaeldellorso889]

I don’t think they’ve been any worse than RBR this year on strategy. It’s more the politics of the two drivers they’ve erred on, which is decided above the strategy dept

[@tcfan008]

@@Miamiburaz find god

[@tcfan008]

@@adrian3355w you know she’s not really doing the strategy right lmao she’s just there for PR

[@davidanderson6257]

​@tcfan008

[@remconoordermeer7015]

I was watching Peter long before I discovered your channel. I always loved how good he is, giving unbiased analyses, and with so much knowledge. He is one of the voices of reason in a quite biased and polarised F1 landscape.

[@TheShitaful]

God tier F1 legends to have ever podcasted! Always happy to catch up on you two

[@edgardoMurnia]

Curious. Same weekend, Max did mantain his pole but apparently "it's too wide to defend pole".... well except for Max apparently. The excuses are infinite for Rich Boy Norris. It's his daddy a sponsor at least?

[@KaylaW-24]

Give Lando credit as Peter says!! He’s a good driver

[@Switll72]

Avarage driver in a good car

[@caro2501]

and there are drivers, good drivers and champions

[@TheTenners]

You should’ve leaned into Peter’s point about blaming McLaren by bringing up Lando’s radio message after the race when he told his team they should’ve told him to give the position back. In addition, bring up the point that perhaps McLaren didn’t have confidence Lando could overtake Verstappen again and decided to put all their hopes on FIA not giving him a 5 second penalty.

[@TucoGBU]

Or getting a 5 second gap.

[@caro2501]

for overtaking off the track the penalty normally is 10 sec. but bc they both went off track they only gave him 5 sec. And they didn’t give him any penalty for tracklimits 4x so Lando was lucky to finish 4th!

[@Connor_Spinks]

Totally agree with Peter re. the overtake. But I cannot beleive nobody is pointing out that McLaren should've got Piastri into the pits right when that happened to both alleviate the risk of Lando getting penalised behind Piastri and also get Piastri a free point for fastest lap for the Constructors. What were they thinking!

[@as0or83]

Seems like they genuinely thought Max will get a penalty and asked Oscar to catch him 😂

[@butterflyeffect1796]

So Oscar should be judged like his current peers of having 10 20 years of experience in f1 with this logic 35:15 😂

[@SecondHalfofLife]

Dying at Camron bringing up gatekeeping to PW. So spot on. Love these chats especially when you guys disagree. Good stuff.

[@AZBCDE]

Peter said ‘Lewis was going to pass Max’ REALLY? Lewis was out of the race on the second lap

[@Cameron-Cc]

Grice's razor. The reference was Lando.

[@aoife1122]

Cameron waffling "mental health" and Peter's WTF face... PRICELESS! 😂😂😂

[@MonikavanderWesthuizen-nw4jm]

🤣😄🤣🤓💯👌🏻

[@MikeCaffyn1]

Big fan of Peter - but Max's consistent game of outbraking himself into the outfield and knowing (clever chap) that he will not be penalised is surely not to be tolerated for ever. But Lando is a bit of a wimp - nowhere near aggressive enough. He needs a 'Lewis at Silverstone' moment.

[@davidhaworth7152]

Best Journos in the business right here! Thank you gentlemen.

[@KimJongsMom]

Right on peter, was another clanger from the mclaren strat team was obvious even from the safety of my armchair

[@brembopollypor9965]

And Cameron, your point on comparing with Russel’s penalty is an interesting one. Bottas did NOT overtake Russell. So had Lando backed out of it, Max might indeed very well have been given a 5 second penalty. So both McLaren and Lando himself made some poor decisions in my mind. (Btw, see my previous comment, all this bs is because of the asfalt out the outside of the turn. Do away with that and you have nothing left to talk about😅)

[@W0o0dy]

I'm far from a Cameron fan. I absolutely detest some of the content and often don't agree. But this balance between Cameron and Peter Windsor (who I've criticized for being too biased) seems to work brilliantly. You guys make each other better. Great video!

[@hennievanbreda2068]

Dont agree with Peter Max had Landos number

[@losersneverwin7647]

Lando giving the position back to max, “There would have been this thought in the back of max’s mind that this guys a fair guy, I’m not going to do something stupid here”. Peter WHAT have you been watching the past 10 years! There’s not any part of max’s driving record that indicates he would feel less entitled to a position based on how fairly another driver raced him. I would say that if anything max’s history of aggression and relentless defense (Austria flashbacks) would have Lando and McLaren relived that Lando had found a way around verstappen and figured it was better to take a penalty and hope Lando could compensate for it with pure pace. Why would they tell Lando that he was ahead at the apex when he clearly wasn’t? Maybe McLaren didn’t want to deal with the risk of trying to reovertake max. Maybe mclaren didn’t want Lando to take matters into his one hands and figured it was better to tell lando what he needed to hear so he could get his head down and beat max on pace instead of a wheel to wheel battle which likely ends in a collision.

[@tylermanthei5444]

I think Peter knows that as a talking head and needs to say some ridiculous things to feed the algo. Speculating over a drivers mental state given a hypothetical situation is fairly common from this guy. He’s always talking about what this guy or that guy is “thinking” and it’s really what Peter would be thinking if he were a racing driver.

[@PeterPost-w8m]

Why don’t you just watch the start in 2023 at COTA? That’s how you defend the first corner!

[@TunedIntoCars]

I think at this point Peter is just bored and he's saying things just so he doesn't have to shut up 😂

[@dumpalt1975]

I agree with most points both of you made. When Norris overtook Max, I was pretty assured that he would get a penalty and max would come out on top. I also feel McLaren is just underperforming massively. They have had the best car for most of the season. They should've taken the lead in the championship. Yet Noris and Leclerc are now tied on race wins. This shows how much more efficient (the inefficiënt) ferrari team even is

[@takeover83]

What happened to peter? His take on norris is a bit odd. I always respect his opinion regardless, but it came off as fan boyish.

[@kennethdawson474]

Unsure why nobody wants to talk about the “be able to make the corner within the track limits” part of the rule. Full props to Max as he’s figured out the stewards don’t care if you can actually make the corner, you just have to be first at the apex. It’’s been clear since 2021 that Max just lets off the brake enough to be first at the apex and has no intention of making the corner. Not a Max bash, just seems really clear to me and the telemetry supports it.

[@Aemond2024]

Nah, he will lose it because of himself. Not Championship material

[@oOZorni]

I'm with you Cameron, I don't think Lando gets passed Max again, if he gives the position back. I just remember Bahrain 21, where everyone thought Max would breeze past Lewis, once he had given the position back to Lewis.

[@mohammedcassim1816]

Lando has to blame himself too! Constantly bottles starts and cracks under pressure. Both team and driver are messing up. Why is there such a big protection over British drivers 😂 it’s never a British drivers fault

[@Ksav-785]

I love the honesty maturity and intelligence to be able to have different opinions and talk it through this generation is incapable great job guys 🎉

[@Cameron-Cc]

This means a lot Ksav!