Painting MDF Doors [video 407]

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Peter Millard

Peter Millard

Күн бұрын

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@TheWhitmore
@TheWhitmore 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is a natural at these videos. Warm, friendly, professional, sage. Good hosting.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 👍
@tristangarel-funk3236
@tristangarel-funk3236 3 жыл бұрын
He's a natural broadcaster!
@dorotapogubila4427
@dorotapogubila4427 2 ай бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop I’m working on the MDF kitchen cabinet doors. I would like to finish with polyurethane. How many coats for durability? And do I sand every each coat?
@rickcimino5483
@rickcimino5483 4 жыл бұрын
what I love about your content is that you get all this really good work done in such a small space. A lot of youtubers have these wonderful shops but you work in something a little bigger than a closet and you turn out such solid work! Thank you for this!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Haha - I’ll have you know British closets are way smaller than my workshop!😂😂 Thanks! Yeah, I’d love more space, but the location and price is hard to beat! 😆👍👍
@kevinchamberlain7928
@kevinchamberlain7928 4 жыл бұрын
Remember the old formaldehyde MDF? Hard as nails, superb finish! I remember it every time I put on my breathing mask and switch my respirator machine on to sleep every night. But it was good stuff, though.
@kevinchamberlain7928
@kevinchamberlain7928 3 жыл бұрын
@@kabirjeremias6434 Yeah, I care. And yes, I'd like to hack her account, too.
@elguapo1507
@elguapo1507 2 жыл бұрын
I frequently go back and watch your videos again when I need advice Peter and you've never let me down! Brilliant advice AND instruction. Thanks very much indeed! 👍
@shmaxo
@shmaxo 4 жыл бұрын
I was going to attempt the risky task of routing a pattern into my old, plain, flat laminated MDF cabinets and was dreading the inevitable chip-out and then you introduced me to 'faker shakers'! My whole project changed completely! This is a fantastic remedy that I can do with my table saw and some glue and clamps. I came to get painting tips and left with an entirely new concept. Many thanks!
@TimCassidy
@TimCassidy 3 жыл бұрын
Yep this opened my eyes to other ways it can be done
@clarkd1955
@clarkd1955 4 жыл бұрын
You seem to do everything with the minimum of movement. It is so enjoyable to watch a pro do something that many people (including me) think they can do. Thanks.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! There just isn’t that much space to live in, lol! 😂😂👍👍
@clarkd1955
@clarkd1955 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Millard Your professional skill is obvious in every video you do and it is a joy to watch. Cheers from Alberta, Canada.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
David Clark Well, thanks for watching, and best wishes from London! 🙌👍👍
@unclejoeoakland
@unclejoeoakland 3 жыл бұрын
I stand in admiration and indeed awe of the tool-lean approach you take to painting.
@jonathanlombard8897
@jonathanlombard8897 4 жыл бұрын
I sure do wish I'd watched this a couple of days ago. These techniques are spot on.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍👍
@chadwickpainter8212
@chadwickpainter8212 3 жыл бұрын
Another excellent presentation. I enjoy your methodical approach to your work. You are technical without being boring, taxing or pretentious and I appreciate that very much. Thanks for another quality video.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🙌👍
@FiscalWoofer
@FiscalWoofer Жыл бұрын
Super video Peter - thank you! I've done tons of cabinets now and keep checking the changes in process online, was using Zinsser shellac primer but now only on small jobs as the cost is prohibitive also clean up would be different to top coats. I think the key is sanding sanding sanding, really as long using a good acrylic eggshell its going to be good. I do much prefer the edge banding now just don't have to sand and round-over as much on the edges. Love your channel!
@vikentijslauruts2153
@vikentijslauruts2153 Ай бұрын
I really like that you go actually in details, tips, comments Appreciate it! Its veru important to me as im just starting out Thanks 🙂
@markchambers9415
@markchambers9415 4 жыл бұрын
Hi peter, A tecnique i use is to clamp a few doors or panels together,where possible,then sand with festool 150 and give all edges two coats of primer and allow to dry.then you can work on fronts and backs easier.just my way ,but it does work.great video as usual.cheers.
@thatguythatdoesstuff7448
@thatguythatdoesstuff7448 3 жыл бұрын
That's actually a great tip.
@stuartyoung1904
@stuartyoung1904 6 ай бұрын
I'm now a subscriber. What a show. There's no fat left on in editing and yet the information is easily absorbed. Everything is of the highest level, framing, lighting, sound. It's got it all.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 6 ай бұрын
Thanks, and welcome! 👍
@joehynes6107
@joehynes6107 3 ай бұрын
Thanks very much for the helpful video Peter, I’ve learned a great deal, especially which paint/primer to use, my old wardrobe doors were previously vinyl wrapped but over time it has peeled away so I’ve removed it and will now give the doors a paint using your tips and method. Thanks again 👍🏻
@magnificentmuttley2084
@magnificentmuttley2084 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr Millard, sir. I would say you have saved my bacon! Having cleared out an apartment I own and getting ready for sale of the property, I found that one of the kitchen cabinet doors had the vinyl high gloss shrink covering half ripped off. As the cabinets were installed almost 20yrs ago, they are now discontinued items. No doubt any purchaser will want to update the kitchen units but the state they are in currently will not be appealing - pure white high gloss doors, all but one, which is down to the raw MDF. I will try your technique and use spray lacquer to attain that high gloss finish, hopefully. Your video is so very instructive and helpful. Thank you so much for posting Peter. Best regards from Northern Ireland. 😀👍☘️
@twentycicada
@twentycicada 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! And loved your work in Legends of Tomorrow!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
OK, I had to look that one up, but you're right - me and Wentworth Miller, like brothers from another mother... 😂 And thanks! 👍
@js8039
@js8039 4 жыл бұрын
I feel a disclaimer is needed for this video. Many people will think painting will go this perfectly and mess-free. In reality, the doors will be dropped as they are moved about, the paint will run copiously into the hinge pockets and then like a river across the door, etc. You made it look superhuman Peter. lol
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Peter Perfect, that’s me! 😂😂 I think I did mention the dropped door, but sure - everyone has to learn the hard way, I just aim to make it a little easier, is all. 👍👍
@steviebye1
@steviebye1 2 жыл бұрын
You are very good peter. Enjoy your videos very much. thank you.
@stevebarratt888
@stevebarratt888 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these videos Peter! I just finished my first Millardian (MDF, dominos, tracksaw) piece of bespoke furniture. Your videos inspired the plunge. I added the last coat of paint (per your instructions) today to the wall mounted bookcase I've built. I can say things came out pretty square, strong and professional-looking in the finish. The success first try is pretty much all down to your clear, straightforward instruction in all these videos. Thank you and merry christmas!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great project! Thanks so much for letting me know! 🙌👍
@davidramsayiv
@davidramsayiv 3 жыл бұрын
look at the cloths, so clean, not a drop on him. Wow!
@davidramsayiv
@davidramsayiv 3 жыл бұрын
the last coat dose seem to go fastest. I liked the speed of the time laps.
@designer-garb572
@designer-garb572 4 жыл бұрын
Peter try 1 primer, 1 undercoat and 1 top coat using a decent paint like Sikkens, also try laying off with a dry roller for a more even texture, buying cheap paint is a false economy as you put extra coats on, also having the extra layers will make it more prone to chipping, I prefer the pure bristle sash brush over the synthetic one, but I use the same sponge rollers though.. good job
@TamekaDoesntQuit
@TamekaDoesntQuit 4 жыл бұрын
New sub. You are amazing. You explain things in the simplest form for people like me (who dont catch on to easy on handy things) can understand. Best of all, I think you've just saved a marital argument about a kitchen rehab. We've been watching your videos today on how to make the doors, hinge, paint etc. and I think we are going to try it. Thanks so much!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Really appreciate the feedback - let me know how you get on! 👍👍
@Cococholoco
@Cococholoco Жыл бұрын
Muy educativo y valioso tus videos, cada dia aprendo algo gracias a tus explicaciones ordenadas y objetivas. Gracias.-
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@frankdil998
@frankdil998 3 жыл бұрын
Learned alot that I really don't need spray painting when less massy easy way is there. Thanks a lot.
@RueFondary
@RueFondary 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter for a very complete video, and for taking the time to assemble the matching shopping list! I see painting as a necessary evil as I've yet to find a satisfying solution for MR MDF doors, so your tips are much appreciated and will be put to the test!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍👍
@johno425
@johno425 10 ай бұрын
Loving the videos. Im a painter by trade and I recommend you try "Sheild" undercoat. It flairs up cut edges and timber grain. It may seem very rough at the start but after its fully hard and dry, it can be very easily sanded smooth almost like Glass. Much like a high build primer for automotive.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 10 ай бұрын
Thanks, I’ll take a look. 👍
@WobblycogsUk
@WobblycogsUk 4 жыл бұрын
Some great tips there, I particularly like that little sanding block. Cheers.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍👍
@Mr_Judge_Benny_Hinn
@Mr_Judge_Benny_Hinn 4 жыл бұрын
Was like watching 'Bob Ross' (without the hair) Happy little shaker doors... ;)
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
😂👍👍
@matthiash.4670
@matthiash.4670 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same :D
@zipperzizzinski2351
@zipperzizzinski2351 4 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop "Big 'ole" spoke here...
@petercoughlan103
@petercoughlan103 4 жыл бұрын
I recently found myself making a lot of painted MRMDF stuff. One thing that used to kill my production time was once I paint, I can't carry on cutting due to the dust despite my dust extraction working its best. Lucky for me I had the space to set up a permanent spray booth. Good video Peter even if its the way I do it myself👍
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, having a small workspace where you have to paint & work is a real production killer. 🤷‍♂️👍
@carlgilbert3503
@carlgilbert3503 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very clearly explained and good references to the tools and materials used. I will be watching more!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@darinsmith9468
@darinsmith9468 4 жыл бұрын
I've painted lots of MDF, with lots of edges (I made all my house's millwork with MDF). Things I've found out: (1) use the highest quality MDF you can get hold of (2) use a SHARP blade when cutting & get the cleanest edge off the saw that you can (3) prime--preferably 2 or 3 coats w/ a quick-drying shellac-based primer--in the States, Zinsser BIN 123 is a great choice--it dries incredibly fast, seals well, and is compatible with any top coat (4) if you have a little inside lip like on these doors, a little painter's caulk quickly and properly applied will make it perfect (5) take your time painting, sand lightly between coats, and control dust. That's it. Painting MDF isn't magic by any means, but it is critical to seal with a good primer, IMO.
@davidbuchan2224
@davidbuchan2224 3 жыл бұрын
Darin - do you know if the Zinsser (which I have and agree - it's fab) will seal knots?
@darinsmith9468
@darinsmith9468 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidbuchan2224 I do not know. I haven’t tried it for that. I suspect that it will, but might need more than 1 coat. And certainly you might need filler also, depending on the knot. I would fill it if needed first, then use a couple coats of the Zinsser as a sealer. My gut tells me that should work.
@davewright9312
@davewright9312 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidbuchan2224 hi David the bin primer does seal knots
@davidbuchan2224
@davidbuchan2224 3 жыл бұрын
@@davewright9312 Thank you for taking the time to reply - yes, have painted some particularly knotty pine... no sign of them coming through - it's worth the money!
@paulround8501
@paulround8501 3 жыл бұрын
If you use a coat of sanding sealer, ether shellac or polyurethane based first it seals the MDF surface ready for painting and is really inexpensive. The paint then goes on smooth as glass especially when sprayed and doesn't soak into the MDF at all even the cheap none moisture resistant stuff.
@Mrfreezeee1
@Mrfreezeee1 4 жыл бұрын
Well Peter that video had me on the edge of my seat ,i always find spraying leaves a nicer finish and the drying time is cut in half ,but the mess and the cleaning of the spray guns or the grayco max is a lot of work
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Syd. Yes, as I say, brush & roller is a very ‘contained’ way of painting, and I’ve had a few clients say that the sprayed finish looked too ‘manufactured’ they want a hand-made piece to have brushstrokes! 😂🤷‍♂️👍
@simonhughes6267
@simonhughes6267 4 жыл бұрын
Love the videos Peter! They are so informative and great to watch. Hope your well 👍🏼
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Simon, glad you like them! And yes, all well, thanks! 👍
@stevewalker7822
@stevewalker7822 4 жыл бұрын
Peter, as always your tips are appreciated! As considered by someone who hates to paint.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve! 👍👍
@sewob147
@sewob147 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating as ever. After watching this I understand better why you invested so comprehensively in spraying for the economies of time it represents.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@FritsvanDoorn
@FritsvanDoorn 4 жыл бұрын
I cant remember that I saw a youtube use a primer. Interesting subject. You make it look easy. Thank you.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Frits! 👍👍
@iainw9029
@iainw9029 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the top tip about corner protectors, Peter. I kept about 50 metres of them as I knew they’d come in useful....only having not thought of anything useful in the 4 months I’ve had them I threw them away (recycling, of course) last week. Only have 7 shaker doors to paint next week. Typical!! 🤣🙄. Noted for the future though.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Always the way Ian, always the way... 🤷‍♂️😂👍👍
@JohnSmith-qv3db
@JohnSmith-qv3db 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as normal Peter, Couple of things to mention on painting MDF (and other materials) to others less skilled than you. 1. "Knock of the arris" as my dad always used to say. Paint can't and won't physically stick to a sharp corner. It is therefor important to sand all sharp edges. Only needs a tiny flick over when doing your de-nibbing but makes a massive difference. 2. Fat edges. Most common mistake by novice painters is leaving fat edges (excessive amounts of paint) on the adjacent face. You were clearly knocking your fat edges off with the roller but didn't mention this technique. It's a simple thing but often overlooked. Pain to remove once dry as when sanding them you end up going back to bare wood. 3. First coat layoff. When you put that first primer coat on always be mindful of not leaving big splodges anywhere, even if you will be going over that area again in 30 seconds. MDF sucks that first coat straight in and if it's to thick in areas it can be a pain to sand out later. You do have a little more 'work time' as the coats progress but just be mindful. 4. Water/shellac/oil. This is aimed more at high end finishes but the water based paints can cause other issues. Sometimes something a little more robust is needed, a shellac based primer is a good alternative. Quick drying but a little more hard wearing and seals the fibres a little better. 5. Last one again is difficult to control but drying area is important. Although the water based paints are quick drying there is nothing worse than taking your time building up layers of paint and sanding between all coats to have the final coat ruined by some dust or other debris blowing all over your wet paint. Try keep the airflow controlled and free from crap, clean your work area before painting and be mindful of other jobs whilst things are drying nearby. We spray when we can but still do loads of hand painting where the sprayer isn t a viable option. Good luck. Hope that
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Great info, thanks John! 👍
@number6396
@number6396 3 жыл бұрын
John - Thank you for the detailed explanations. They are very helpful. Appreciate you taking the time to write them. I read every word!
@lizziebarker8399
@lizziebarker8399 2 жыл бұрын
Great info thanks John - can ask about the corners again? I am going to get some mdf slab kitchen doors made, not shaker just plain. Should I ask the guy who cuts them to round all the edges slightly? Or just do it by hand? Thank you!
@JohnSmith-qv3db
@JohnSmith-qv3db 2 жыл бұрын
@@lizziebarker8399 Hi Lizzie, No need to ask, its something you can do yourself. I presume you're getting plain MDF slab? Are you painting them yourself? 18mm? Best to get them all primed then when you sand just gently go over the edges with something like 120g or 150g just to knock the sharpness off.
@lizziebarker8399
@lizziebarker8399 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-qv3db thanks John! I was thinking 22mm MDF and yes I’m going to start with a small kitchen island and see if I can paint it myself, then do the rest of the doors if I get a good enough result!
@HashMeister
@HashMeister 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. For a better smoother finish using brush and rollers and without spray paint, I recommend adding Floetrol to the finishing paint before use. Also BIN primer sealer (shellac based) would give much better results than other primers.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. As I think I say in the vid, using a decent quality MR MDF makes a huge difference, and while I'm a big fan of BIN, I can typically use regular primer/undercoat with MR without any issues. 👍
@FisherCatProductions
@FisherCatProductions Жыл бұрын
Ditto on both 👍Fletrol will lay as flat as a spray once you get used to the best mix ratio with your paint of choice.
@kamilnh17
@kamilnh17 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is gold. Thank you for video 🙏🏻
@paulround8501
@paulround8501 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I use either a polyurethane or shellac based sanding sealer before paint. It seals the MDF beautifully without causing any rough surface, then the paint goes on smooth as glass especially when sprayed. Reduces sanding and provides a far superior finish, even on cheap MFD.
@bobulatorul
@bobulatorul 3 жыл бұрын
Paul I’m a bit confused. Is sanding sealer same thing as a primer or different? Is it white or transparent? What does the “sanding” part mean…that it needs to be sanded after? Why is this much better than the white primer in the video? What does this allow you to do that normal primer doesn’t?
@richiejames928
@richiejames928 Жыл бұрын
Industry secret for you, use button polish. It’s much much cheaper than anything labbled MDF sealer. Shellac based. Dries incredibly fast. Nearly instantly. seals and takes less coats to get the same finish.
@nickhardiman2142
@nickhardiman2142 4 жыл бұрын
I Like your videos. My top tip is line the paint try with tin foil saves having to clean it out. Just screw it up and bin it when finished. I always buy an extra Turkey roll at Christmas for the big trays. 👍 Keep up the good work 👍
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, fool’s a good trick - I use tray liners as you can swap them out more easily. 👍👍
@williamsjoinery8186
@williamsjoinery8186 4 жыл бұрын
I do that with roasting tins but never thought to do it with paint trays. Brilliant idea!
@anick6265
@anick6265 11 ай бұрын
Thank you very much, very interesting for me…I am from Quebec, Canada.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 11 ай бұрын
Thanks you! Best wishes from London. 👍
@danapeck5382
@danapeck5382 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see brushes getting used!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Always! 👍
@26tp
@26tp 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative Peter. I'd love to see you spray paint the same doors.
@Goodwithwood69
@Goodwithwood69 4 жыл бұрын
My advice for painting mdf doors is to build a good relationship with a professional painter and pay them to do it!
@olegserstjuk2232
@olegserstjuk2232 3 жыл бұрын
Agree, but also look into good paint if doing it yourself. Paint and primers with hardners make a huge difference to work with, drying time is also incredible. Pre catalysed stuff is dry to touch in 10 and you can sand in about 30min
@jacobyonke5064
@jacobyonke5064 3 жыл бұрын
Matthew Smith noooo we dont want any part of your mdf
@al70127
@al70127 2 жыл бұрын
@@acerjuglans383 do you have any experience with epoxy paint/primers undercoats like the one by Stone Coat Countertops company?
@mim2046
@mim2046 Жыл бұрын
Professional painter are a joke when it comes to painting cabinet doors. Water based paints suck. Solvent based are MUCH better. Having a professionally refinisher is going to give you much better results
@Goodwithwood69
@Goodwithwood69 Жыл бұрын
Your painter maybe a joke but ive built a relationship with a very skilled painter, she is one in a million! The material looks like a spray finish in the end!
@stephenhull7120
@stephenhull7120 Жыл бұрын
Love it. I'm literally watching paint dry.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Me too! 😂
@fominaya24
@fominaya24 6 ай бұрын
My uncle's name was Peter Millard and my Mom's maiden name was Millard. Good content, thank you!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 6 ай бұрын
Spooky! Thanks!
@treylynne247
@treylynne247 2 жыл бұрын
Love the sanding block setup!
@grahambastone8955
@grahambastone8955 2 жыл бұрын
I use 1 coat MDF primer (to stop MDf bleeding through) & 2-3 coats top coats finish of choice. Edge banded all round. Bigger doors need painting all in one go else they curl !
@jasonhook6657
@jasonhook6657 4 жыл бұрын
The use of packing corners is a revelation Peter! :-) 'Why didn't I think of that'... I've got a whole stack of them destined for the bin... not anymore! `Great video as always!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Jason! Yes, only occurred to me recently when I saw the stack of offcuts that I’d (luckily) kept! 😆👍👍
@bobpeters5615
@bobpeters5615 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your postings. You may want to consider putting your paint tray into a plastic carrier bag before filling. when your done, throw the bag away and no cleaning up to do. Also, if you make a couple of 35mm discs, cut them in half and fix to a small sprung 'scissors', you can use the hinge holes to hold the doors. You can use a wood or steel bar, or a length of string to hang them. You can the do all four edges each time.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
With respect, that’s a terrible idea - the plastic bag sticks to the wet paint and lifts away from the tray every time you prime the roller. Tin foil is better as it tends to stay put, but best of all is a cheap tray liner that’s virtually unnoticeable - I’m using one here - but does the job with out any of the above disadvantages. Also means that you can keep the liner active with eg primer, and still move on to topcoat without tying up another tray. 👍👍
@bones549
@bones549 4 жыл бұрын
Try drywall mud on edges for painted panels in MDF. Works like a charm. Old timer taught me.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
👍
@janeroyce3593
@janeroyce3593 9 ай бұрын
This is very clear and informative thank you! I’m about to embark on a diy job on my mdf cabinet doors - they’re plain, with bevelled edge. I’ve peeled off the gloss plastic coating and the mdf underneath looks like it’s been sealed (slight sheen.. maybe that’s the adhesive?). No idea whether it’s MR MDF ☹️ So I think I’ll use the Zinsser shellac primer (brush/roller) so many people recommend. I’m using a water-based eggshell for top coats (Little Greene intelligent eggshell). My neighbour is going to help and says spraying will produce a better finish. Having seen you roll and brush your doors I’m wondering whether my neighbour is right..?? Spraying looks incredibly messy and I’m guessing uses more paint. A couple of questions: should I fill handle holes with wood filler before priming? And what grade(s) sandpaper is best for sanding between coats? Thank you 😊
@mikegrier2829
@mikegrier2829 2 жыл бұрын
It’s sometimes difficult to find the voice of reason, but Peter is just that. Many YT videos proclaim that a water-based paint should not be used on MDF, but they’re almost always referring to the edges of MDF. In my case, I was about to embark on painting 40 or so brand new Shaker-style cabinet doors consisting of maple rails and stiles with MDF panels, so I wasn’t faced with painting the edges. Peter’s video gave me the confidence to use a water-based primer, and it has worked out beautifully. I double checked with my local paint supply store, Sherwin-Williams, and the most knowledgeable person there also recommended a water-based primer. Their top coat recommendation was their Emerald product, which is also amazing.
@maxpolaris99
@maxpolaris99 3 жыл бұрын
We have a Shaker community within an hour drive where I live. Not many of them left, most are quite elderly.
@davidbuchan2224
@davidbuchan2224 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter - I use the exact same rollers. I have found that, once rolled, very lightly going over with a dry roller reduces the orange peel significantly. Thanks for the videos... and thanks to you I've been forced into buying a Domino... can't wait for it to arrive! Please do a Domino video!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks David! And yes, there’s a ‘Domino Workshop’ series planned. 👍👍
@josephmcdonnell6444
@josephmcdonnell6444 3 жыл бұрын
Precisely using two rollers as one can be slightly dryer as it's not to heavy loaded with paint won't leave orange peel and leave it factory Finnish flat, personally I like to use synthetic mohair rollers, obviously washing out any loose fibres and even doublely making sure any loose fibers are run out by using them on scrap wood/walls ,you then have a broken in ready to fine Finnish as essentially the nap fibre roller sleeve whips the paint flat. Fast backrolling also uses less paint if you happen to be short of paint and time ,on a new build full panel door should take no more than 15 minutes either side ,I like your attention to detail and we can and some times take too long to .... unless on a price to keep that momentum up so every stroke matters
@davidhull1610
@davidhull1610 4 жыл бұрын
You can get wire loops that clip into the 35mm hinge holes, and make it easier to handle and hang the doors up to dry. Good for spraying too. I can't remember where I saw them ( might be Rutlands) but the innovative amongst us could probably make some from wire coathangers.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, yes, I’ve seen some on KZbin, neat idea if you have a lot to do. 👍👍
@nickboggon
@nickboggon 4 жыл бұрын
This (and last week’s videos) couldn’t be better timed as I’m about to have a crack at building and painting my first mdf doors this weekend.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Timing is everything, I’m told. 🤷‍♂️👍👍
@petermoore1244
@petermoore1244 2 жыл бұрын
First let me say thank you for the great videos very helpful could you recommend a fast drying wood glue there are so many I'm lost
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much any fast grab PVA will do the job. I’ve used all kinds over the years and have never found a scrap of difference between them. I tend to use PolyTen 10-minute PVA because I could buy it in 5-litre tubs, then decant into smaller bottles, but I’ll use anything, and I’d suggest using whatever you can get your hands in easily. 👍👍
@petermoore1244
@petermoore1244 2 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop thank you very much for your reply much appreciated, keep up the excellent work
@davidwilson8452
@davidwilson8452 4 жыл бұрын
Great , informative, to the point , iv been painting for 30 odd years always use Leyland primer undercoat 1hr redcoat time and I have never got it to cover like that in one coat , amazing , made me laugh out loud with the bit about keeping the door further on the work surface and not to ask how you know , looking forward to your next video
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍👍
@Ssssshhhhh1885
@Ssssshhhhh1885 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Peter. Really enjoyed that. Had thought of using that tape, won't bother now lol. Video was superbly put together, really nice. End music was a nice change. 👍👍👍👍
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Barry! Yeah, playing around with a bit of Muzak - not always appropriate, but fun to skip some in now and then. 👍👍
@fgcvhhbvjhbj
@fgcvhhbvjhbj 5 ай бұрын
Hi Peter, returning to this video again as we redo our kitchen! For painting inside of melamine and mrmdf units, do you recommend using any type of clear coat or varnish etc. to protect shelving etc. from wear and tear over time?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 5 ай бұрын
I always found the paint to be just fine; the only time I’ve added a clear coat was when a customer wanted a specific colour of emulsion paint she already had, so aI used that and added a satin lacquer over it, and it worked well. But if you can use eggshell or satin finish paint then that should be enough. 👍
@fgcvhhbvjhbj
@fgcvhhbvjhbj 5 ай бұрын
@10MinuteWorkshop Thanks for the reply, Peter! Love the videos and very helpful, as always!
@fireblaster9961
@fireblaster9961 4 жыл бұрын
I use a section of ply with 4 cut down pins to paint both sides of doors, and I find the mohair mini roll tubes are better than foam rollers
@normanboyes4983
@normanboyes4983 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter - very useful tips.👍
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Norman! 👍
@justasmincius6759
@justasmincius6759 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Need advice on choosing the paint. What sort of paint is best to use when durability is required? I made a shaker style MDF doors for bathroom cabinet, but the paint (dark grey colour) is not resistant to touching, finger nail scratches. I will be re-priming and repainting the doors. Would clear coat be an option in this scenario?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I've used a clear coat over paint in this situation before, and it worked well. 👍
@jamescodling8641
@jamescodling8641 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent content and very relaxing
@stephenwalsh3629
@stephenwalsh3629 Жыл бұрын
Hello, I bought and used the high density foam rollers you recommended. Regardless of the type of paint I used, these rollers left a pattern of mini-dimple marks everywhere. This occurred with soft maple, MDF, and Baltic birch. Had to sand them down and start over. Thoroughly unimpressed.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
They’ve always worked extremely well for me, most recently in the home office remodel. If you want the smoothest possible roller finish then the ‘two fussy blokes’ shirt like are really nice, but harder to get hold of. 👍
@stephenwalsh3629
@stephenwalsh3629 Жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop How thoroughly did you load the foam rollers with paint? Just curious. Perhaps mine was not saturated with enough paint hence the mini-dimples.
@davidhaydon4720
@davidhaydon4720 3 ай бұрын
Hi Peter, great video as always. Would the same method apply when painting the body of the wardrobes/cabinets? Would you recommend a clear layer of perhaps a polyurethane coat on any surface that will have something resting on it? Clothes or ornaments etc? I've ended up with a slight tacky result when using a quickdrying satinwood. This time I've gone for a bathroom emulsion and hoping it'll be a better finish. Cheers
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 ай бұрын
Hi and thanks! Yes, absolutely - I've used this identical method with every cabinet carcass I've painted, wether they were wardrobes, chests of drawers, whatever. The only time I've ever had a slightly soft finish like you describe is with a farrow &n ball paint where their primer wasn't used; if you regularly get a finish like that then I'd look at sorting that out rather than applying a clear coat. 👍
@kf5541
@kf5541 4 жыл бұрын
Great videos as always
@adamandlorraine
@adamandlorraine 4 жыл бұрын
Yep I've got the fancy Graco gxff machine but sometimes just can't face the set up and clean down! You need a dedicated room or booth to make it worthwhile, which I don't have!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Yep! 👍
@rickkinney1249
@rickkinney1249 Жыл бұрын
peter, i know the shop is small ,however, does it have en suite facilities? you do so much more with so much less that it is a treat to watch your videos thanx rick
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
No, no water or waste unfortunately. Communal facilities in the main building. 👍
@chriskeeble
@chriskeeble 4 жыл бұрын
Great tips, great presentation - thank you Peter.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@roystonwilliams7260
@roystonwilliams7260 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this video. Great job
@akaashkat7037
@akaashkat7037 11 ай бұрын
Looking to actually setup a workshop like this
@ciptrofin
@ciptrofin 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. My 2 cents: the difference between edgebanding and manual painting is visible - check 16:24. I am quite sure the edgebanding is on the panel on top.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
You’re right - the edgebanding is on the top door - just not on the edges you can see. 🤷‍♂️👍
@ciptrofin
@ciptrofin 4 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop Wow! I really thought the visible side of top door was edgebanding :)))) Later edit: and now I'm confused - I thought the 16:24 shot was to show edgebanding and edgepainting side by side...
@nigelbrown7179
@nigelbrown7179 11 ай бұрын
Brilliant video thank-you so much
@darrenpaulgreen
@darrenpaulgreen 4 жыл бұрын
Very interested to see the lack of difference between edgebanded and non. I definitely find that a good quality MR MDF doesn’t need edgebanding. Re drying times, do you stick to manufacturers guide or just repaint when dry to the touch? Something I’m never sure about!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Depends on the schedule! Where I can I leave it overnight, but I’ve found around ~4 hrs between redcoats is often enough. 👍👍
@AnnPort-g6x
@AnnPort-g6x Жыл бұрын
Great stuff
@tomlewis632
@tomlewis632 7 ай бұрын
Are you not supposed to use shellac, to seal it first, sand, then prime, then paint? Due to the composition of the wood?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 7 ай бұрын
No, MRMDF doesn't need any sealers.
@melodyschleicher81
@melodyschleicher81 3 жыл бұрын
What top coat would you recommend for a semi gloss finish on kitchen cabinet doors? I am using Zinnzer BIN for the undercoat.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much anything with a mid-sheen finish should do the job. I like Tikkurila Helmi 30, but it can be tricky to get hold of. For high street paints then I’ve had good results from Leyland or Johnstone. 👍👍
@melodyschleicher81
@melodyschleicher81 3 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshopFunny you should say that. After scrounging through scores of recommendations, yesterday I found Tikkurila offer their Everal aqua semi-matt in the UK. A small pot is cheap enough to try it out and the colour range is huge. I will keep you posted.
@NeilMagill
@NeilMagill 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a superb video as always. I've recently followed your tips and (using the Leyland Acrylic Primer) managed to paint some MDF sections in a new kitchen, that were used to box in the top of the units. The sanding between coats is certainly an essential step.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, good to hear Neil, thanks! 👍
@Adrian-AosFotos-Irish
@Adrian-AosFotos-Irish 4 жыл бұрын
Peter ,great stuff .Just found your channel ,very inspiring .Greetings from Ireland .
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adrian, and welcome! Best wishes from London!!👍
@FiscalWoofer
@FiscalWoofer Жыл бұрын
I like the spray finish but it does make touching up on site if something 'happens' during the install more difficult than roller!
@chocolatebuttonhotch
@chocolatebuttonhotch 3 жыл бұрын
Hi - useful video thanks - would you still coat the inside of cupboards 3-4 times?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe one coat less on the internals, depending on location eg if it’s a kitchen then they’ll get the same as the doors. 👍
@chocolatebuttonhotch
@chocolatebuttonhotch 3 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop thank you - theyre wardrobes
@TheYandub
@TheYandub 20 күн бұрын
Hi Peter What do you do with large doors (like 160x60cm)? Your technique is perfect for small doors but when it's big and heavy it's really hard to succeed in painting all 6 sides in a small workshop... best regards
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 20 күн бұрын
Yo have to do the the old way - one side and edges at a time, unless you have space to hang them. 👍
@christianortiz2536
@christianortiz2536 3 жыл бұрын
I I just kinda burn the with 400 sand paper with the mirka orbital and the center of door since I use laquer paint and it kinda suck it in if not sanded
@RollCorruption
@RollCorruption 3 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on painting the inside? Or is it easier to just use melamine coated MFD for eg. thinking of having a go at the kitchen next and wondering if paint is going to hold up on the internal surfaces of a cabinet.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
For a kitchen I’d always go for a melamine finish, on the inside at least. 👍
@johnfrederickson3082
@johnfrederickson3082 4 жыл бұрын
Try a LVLP spray gun I use mine with a 8 gallon 1 1/2 hp compressor. I have an Graco airless and a HVLP but the LVLP is the best by a long long long way. Over spray is almost nonexistent, it sprays at a reasonable rate, clean up is the easiest by far and it is inexpensive.
@markrowland5393
@markrowland5393 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, Peter. I have some doors to paint and I'll use your tips.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Mark! 👍
@geraldarcuri9307
@geraldarcuri9307 3 жыл бұрын
I have never been satisfied with a final coat done with a foam roller. Using a high-gloss latex enamel, treated with Floetrol or similar latex paint extender solution, I can use a fine brush and 1/4" nap microfiber roller. No foam roller "rash", just a beautiful, smooth finish, which doesn't look "raw", but has a very pleasing patina.
@carforumwanker
@carforumwanker 4 жыл бұрын
Use OTEX oil based primer on cut edge of MDF . 2 coats with a find sand
@ianmurray3820
@ianmurray3820 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid as usual peter.! - just a bit surprised that you haven’t came up with an ingenious quick clamp / spreader based semi circular jawed hinge pocket door hanging device and rack to make handling those wet doors a little easier… P.S. if you come up with one and make a fortune remember my intellectual royalties…😳😄💪🏻
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Deal! 😂 And thanks Ian! 🙌👍
@sportybry7676
@sportybry7676 3 жыл бұрын
What grit sandpaper do you use to sand between the primer and paint coats? If you put on 2 coats of paint, do you sand in between? I'm also curious if you use the foam roller instead of a "standard" fabric type roller for a reason.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Usually P120 - P180 to sand between coats of paint - called ‘de-nibbling’ and yes, you de-nib between every coat. I use high density foam rollers because they give a better finish, thought the ‘two fussy blokes’ short pile mini roller works well, just harder to get hold of. 🤷‍♂️👍
@sportybry7676
@sportybry7676 3 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop thank you :) I really appreciate the help.
@northern9249
@northern9249 4 жыл бұрын
What Grit sand paper did you use between coats of paint
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Usually a well-worn P120, or a fresher P150/180, around there. 👍
@ivovantulden3921
@ivovantulden3921 3 жыл бұрын
Nice movie, great idea for two sides at once. Do you have a movie about the dring rack?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! This old video gives details on the drying frame - kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2LUo3mKmrOtsJI 👍
@zidmod007
@zidmod007 Жыл бұрын
Hi Peter Would appreciate some help; I purchased the paintable edging you used in your video. Done 3 coats of eggshell and it looks nice but by just by coincidence I noticed if i use my nail and pick on the paint it comes away and the white can be seen. Is this something you have come across ? Just concerned overtime the paint is just going to come off ? I even tried using primer on one of the pieces and it’s the same issue
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
It’s paintable tape - you still need to prime it, unfortunately! And how long are you leaving between coats and to dry? Because there’s no absorption it can take longer to dry and fully harden, sometimes days before it’s fully set. For that reason I always preferred to just prep and paint the edges, as detailed here; do it right and you’ll be hard pressed to tell the difference between that and a paintable tape edge. HTH 👍
@zidmod007
@zidmod007 Жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop it was few hours between coats. I did prime one board, painted two coats and then left for days but it still came off in end 🤔.
@sandrofreitas1976
@sandrofreitas1976 2 жыл бұрын
Ótimo canal, e as dicas são inspiradoras.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Muito obrigado! Muitas felicidades de Londres!
@garethrosey
@garethrosey 4 жыл бұрын
I'll be revisiting this video and the "2 Doors" video when I've finished building my garage and start to outfit it with some cabinets. Your videos have inspired me to build my cabinets rather than buy, so a TS55 is on my shopping list (using a bit of man maths it pays for iteself!) and hopefully lead to enjoying doing some small projects. My garage will be mainly for storing and working on my cars and motorbikes, so the old school reg plate on your wall peeked my interest, is there a story behind it?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And great to hear my videos have helped! The ref plate is from my first car - an Austin A40. Pile of junk - but it was *my* pile of junk! 😂 bit.ly/Austin_A40 👍👍
@garethrosey
@garethrosey 4 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop Its funny how however crap they are, our first cars always have a special place in our hearts. My Micra was terrible in every measurable metric, but I loved every mile I put on it, it was my FREEDOM!
@olegserstjuk2232
@olegserstjuk2232 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on spraying, using pre-cat laquers primers and paints. Explaining acid hardeners etc... I was reluctant to paint anything because paint available at hardware shops vs specialised furniture grade paint is night and day in quality, it can withstand knocks, scratches and looks like its been painted professionally and its not that hard to do with a cheap gun and a small compressor to at least get you started into spraying properly with a high end durable finish. Also the dying time is nuts with a good paint, you can spray 2 coats of primer in about an hour sanding in between. I got paint from morrels, the quality is insane, its also very reasonably priced, £30 for 5L of pre-cat primer, £50 for acid top coat 5L
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
I’m done with spraying now. Pre-cat requires much more stringent ventilation and extraction than I’m capable of in my workspace too, which is why J stuck with water-based. 👍👍
@olegserstjuk2232
@olegserstjuk2232 3 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop thanks, that explains your choice of going water based, the stuff is extremely high in VOC
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