Star Trek SNW Episode 2 review. Yes it stunk.

[@CallMeChato]

Apparently it was a comet and not an asteroid, my apologies. So that chamber would have been FAR MORE STABLE in a comet, right? I should double check my facts but it's too painful to go back through the show a second time.

[@zephodb]

There is little difference between a comet and an asteroid for stability, due to the weak gravity that usually holds such objects together... however The main difference between asteroids and comets is their composition, as in, what they are made of. Asteroids are made up of metals and rocky material, while comets are made up of ice, dust and rocky material. So, this means that if it is a Comet, it is made up of ice/dust/rock... As opposed to Metals/Rock. c.c Remember how light and bouncy the Astronauts in our world were on the moon? Much worse than that due to the micro-gravity like 'oops I took a hard step and launched myself off the world' level of issues. >.>

[@kathleenhensley5951]

A comet is just a conglomeration of stone and ice that de-gasses when it approaches a sun. It's nearly but not quite the same thing, in more cases. If you saw an comet in the Oort cloud, it would look like asteroid. No, I don't think that a chamber in a comet would be far more stable, in fact, less so, at least, in the long run. Every time a comet approaches a sun it looses some ice in the form of gasses. Over many centuries, it will slowly become inert and no longer have enough ice to grow one of those lovely tails. I've always been a little confused about this, so pardon me, but I think sometimes the only thing holding a comet together (besides a wee bit of gravity) IS the ice, hence, they can fall apart. all this said, You still don't want to be hint with one, neither, do you want your planet hit. ZebhodB (he's just some guy, you know!) is right about composition and i read his description after mine.

[@Falconlibrary]

One hypothesis is that the Earth was "seeded" with the primordial stuff of life by a bombardment of comets, which is one reason astronomers are so keen to study them, particularly their chemical reactions. Arthur C. Clarke definitely thought that life above the biological level could even live on a comet. Comets can last as long as planets, so long as the don't collide. They're a lot like a Kia Soul that way.

[@nicholase82]

Who warned the captain at the end of the ep? And did anyone on the planet know about the comet.

[@seanm8030]

You're charles bronson?

[@aracosgaming6137]

It's sad that the best thing we can say about Strange New Worlds is............ "Well, it's not terrible." But of course when Discovery and Puke-hard have lowered the bar to an inconceivable level, pure mediocrity starts to look like solid gold.

[@haldand]

"Puke-hard" ... LOL this just made my day.

[@freddontkey4811]

puke-hard

[@NeverForget1776]

Its clear that Anson Mounts performance and to a lesser extent Rebecca Romijn is the best part of this show as it was during the season of Discovery he was in. That said SNW is a definite improvement over Discovery and most definitely over Picard and that alone is surprising considering Kurtzman is behind all of them. I wonder if the pushback they've been getting has finally gotten CBS to bring some pressure to bear and get Kurtzman to be more Trek focused? Did you know that Rebecca Romijn insisted that her character wear the short dress style outfit found in TOS? Originally Kurtzman had the women wearing the same masculine style outfits as the men but Rebecca Romijn insisted she be allowed to include the short dree style uniform so her character will be in the dress sometimes and other times in slacks like the men. In the interview I read about this she said she wanted her character to be feminine looking. Kudos to Rebecca Romijn!

[@toweypat]

Hey, good for her :)

[@thewiirocks]

I honestly think Ethan Peck deserves some kudos as well. While he's given some pretty bizarre stuff to work with, he manages to pull off Spock with some amazing gravitas. Also, we need to see more of Rebecca. Two episodes in and she's barely gotten screen time!

[@NatashaEstrada]

@@thewiirocks I think episode 3 is supposed to be the one that is the Una episode. Ghosts of Iryllia. Considering some of the unofficial backstory for Number One is that she was raised by the Iryllians it's safe to assume we will be finding out more about her this week.

[@Falconlibrary]

I was almost ready to watch this show just for Rebecca. But not even her siren call can lure my ship onto the rocks.

[@caomhan84]

I think they also need to clear up the chain of command. Pike is the captain, we know. Una is Number One, so first officer. But who's after her? It was unclear who exactly was in charge on the away mission. Was it La'an or Spock? Spock's a lieutenant at this point, I think, so is La'an senior to him? And why is Nurse Chapel acting like a doctor? They brought M'Benga on this show (jettisoning Dr. Boyce entirely, it seems), but Chapel is getting the screen time. Hopefully they flesh all of this out.

[@sinistervids71]

The Uhura storyline was ripped from the Enterprise episode "Fight or Flight". Hoshi has the same issues with being on Enterprise and has to figure out the alien language to save the ship. Enterprise also had a episode where they landed on a comet. Seems like they are hoping no one watched Enterprise so they can just steal stories from them.

[@Otokichi786]

At least they steal from a good source, unlike ST:D and Robot Pickard writers.

[@davidlacoste]

And TOS had an episode where they needed to prevent an asteroid to destroyed an inhabited planet.

[@jeffturnbull9661]

Hoshi was a 3 dimensional character, and she was better integrated into that show (which was a far better show), also her character grew over the course of the series, AND WE LIKED HER

[@sinistervids71]

@@jeffturnbull9661 I liked her too.Enterprise is my fav ST show after TOS. What's your point?

[@Appleblade]

Chato's review is proof again we live in a time of second order entertainment. Loved this!

[@STho205]

Yes that is and always was called TV. He spent a life giving us second rate theater.

[@ThePopcast]

My friend. Did you watch the episode? It was a comet (not an astroid) and they were they for that specific purpose. They specifically said they were in that system to deal with the comet. This is starting to sound disingenuous. Check out TOS episode "Paradise Syndrome" a similarly derivative story. I'd like to see you review that TOS episode, and if you don't have very similar complaints then I'm confused. Still love your stuff my friend, I'd love to have you on our show this Saturday if your interested. P.s. they used a tricorder. Altho I do agree that Uhura shouldn't be a cadet and probably shouldn't be on that away mission. And I'm not totally against a ménage à trois with Spock, Chapel, and T'Pring... Just saying 😏

[@CallMeChato]

Check out today’s apology video

[@ThePopcast]

@@CallMeChato ahh very nice! I love your honesty. Message me if you'd like to guest on the live stream some time.

[@francismcmenamin982]

Did you? Or were you just paid to watch and comment favourably about it?

[@windfall35]

I loved the 'frantics' so many years ago... and really enjoy the verbal imagery of "Chato'...Keep 'em coming...

[@fakshen1973]

Deep Space 9 took Star Trek in a different direction than TOS and TNG. But they did so with 95% good writing and obeying lore. Writing on top of a franchise is awesome because of the built-in audience. But if you don't service that audience, you will LOSE your ratings and the existing fanbase revolts. The synopsis of this episode shows just how weak and pathetic the storytelling is. It's amazing how many time and cost-saving tools are available for Hollywood to use. But their writers and script approvals just suck.

[@SuperEndiku]

DS9 was genius and even it lost a large number of TOS and TNG fans at the time. The writers of this show are desperately trying to not do another Discovery or Picard but they can't pull it off. The only kind of storytelling they know how to tell is "did you see this topic on Twitter? Here's a show about it." So if they turn Twitter off then it's just a bad imitation of Trek.

[@mordakie3805]

i think DS9 has some of the best scif writing ever made

[@mattd8725]

DS9 was seen as a spoiler for Babylon 5 at the start and while it did have legs it also made a lot of bad changes to the Star Trek formula that debased it in the long run.

[@DeltaAssaultGaming]

I never liked DS9. Felt unpleasant and petty compared to TNG

[@scottn7cy]

Paramount agrees with you in that they think the fans are revolting.

[@donaldself16]

Someone not just from California but from the "industry" with an actual functioning brain. "Again", I am impressed. Please keep them coming, as we all really need a little lighthearted humor in the world today.

[@SuperEndiku]

I love how Chato makes all his videos visually interesting and entertaining before the topic even begins. It's like getting dessert before the main course instead of stale breadsticks.

[@monkeytrousers8562]

Love your sense of humour, man. I'm an old, I remember watching the original Trek as a kid, and one thing has always bugged me about their 'Landing party' or 'away team' protocols. Ask any Navy officer and they will tell you that for potentially dangerous away missions you send a junior officer and a bunch of troopies, not the Captain and a bunch of heads of departments officers. You want the savage fleedlebockles to both literally and figuratively bite the head off your whole ship?

[@robertpearson8798]

I’m hoping for an episode where it’s discovered that Pikes hairdo is generating its own gravity field. I’m also beginning to wonder if any of the writers have actually seen any episodes of TOS or are just relying on synopsis the way David Lynch did for his Dune.

[@B9M3]

Yes, they watch all the old episodes to find more canons to violate.

[@lynnd6422]

I think Kurtzman Trek was summed up by the main point of this episode: "Well, sometimes things are so bad, you just have to laugh."

[@josephmckenna5760]

I miss The Outer Limits and (the old) Twilight Zone.

[@mikecanul]

Great video! -keep up the awesome work - from mike (aka Mexican IronMan from midnights edge)

[@CallMeChato]

Thanks Mexican IronMan. So good to see you here. And thanks for the cash THANKS. I'll put it in my G-string.

[@davidcoleman757]

Your' tricorder' addendum to this segment was hilarious.

[@hanssvensson9806]

Great as always Chato, always enjoy your vids.

[@kevingiven3463]

I really don't think the episode stunk. I admit the writing on this show needs some vast improvement, but after the dark tone of Discovery, this is a breath of fresh air and feels closer to what I think Star Trek should be, yes, so far, the episodes aren't great writing. But it's a step in the right direction.

[@Vertshark]

Also remember the first season of TNG, VOY, and DS9 were not exactly great either. SNW is not off to a bad start which I couldn't say for STD

[@darthbiscuit]

"Diet Trek" is a good title for Strange New Worlds. Synthesizes the taste with none of the substance

[@CallMeChato]

I was quite proud of that one.

[@hfaux]

I thought this episode was pretty ok for a first season trek episode. The ending with the shuttle didn't really make sense, but I was enjoying it up to that. I'm glad we are getting self-contained stories again, and I think this show has a lot of potential once they flesh out the characters and get some momentum going.

[@Peorhum]

Wasn't there an TOS episode where an asteroid was heading to a planet and the crew beamed down and they discovered a machine that erased Kurt's memory, so he falls in love with a local girl but In the end he reenters the machine with Spock and set the machine to deflect the asteroid? This SNW episode seems a twist on that.

[@phlogistonix]

I thought the same thing. Episode was called "For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky". I like that SNW is trying to evoke TOS, but can't they come up with some original plotlines?

[@mem1701movies]

Yeah... they called him KURTrock

[@francismcmenamin982]

That would be KIRK'S memory! As opposed to Kurtzman's!

[@DarthVader-1701]

@@mem1701movies Kirok, The Paradise Syndrome.

[@DarthVader-1701]

@@phlogistonix it's title was The Paradise Syndrome.

[@Scarran]

I like Anson as Pike.. But good God did I keep seeing him as Vanilla Ice in this episode. The Captain's quarters is massive so it can contain that steadily growing Tribble hairdo. 😂

[@JonasGrumby-OO]

Spock gives pep talk Uhuru: "might want to keep your foot on the gas" Huh? In 2259? Stepping "on the gas". Embarrassing

[@Crazyuncle1]

It seems like all the really good writers in Hollywood have passed away and imagination died with them. As a life long Trekkie all I want is to escape all the bullshit for 50 minutes by going on an adventure aboard a starship with a good captain and crew. Land on some strange planets, meet some aliens. When the adventure is over I want to say to myself “yeah that was good” instead of “what the hell was that”?

[@quantumac]

"Diet Trek" may be a massive improvement over the Abrahams/Kurtzman Trek offered up so far, but it's _still_ a far cry from the canon-respecting, Roddenberry-respecting, massive collection of episodes and movies offered before Abrahams/Kurtzman Trek. These people really want to make something other than Trek, but they're calling it Trek in a bid to get viewers. It's clear that strategy is only partially successful and mostly a failure.

[@miro007ist]

I’m sorry Star Trek is dead. I mean, something could come out of it if the old writers and producers and directors of TNG, DS9 and VOY come together again just like old times and create something new, with new actors. But these new writers are so bad. Goodbye Star Trek.

[@SuperEndiku]

I think one of the big reasons this new crap lasts so long and does so much damage is that the old creators never speak out. Like Mark Hamill who looked physically ill talking about Disney Star Wars but was still unable to criticize the murder of his character and the franchise. The old writers watch their original work mocked or even called "problematic" but they don't want to be called names now for standing against "progressive Trek"

[@MrGchiasson]

Start Wreck is here..(yawn...sigh). Back in 66'..I was 12 years old and gathered together with our model rocket club & sci-fi geeks to watched the very first episode of Star Trek. With JiffyPop popcorn & coca colas...we watched & cheered. Well, ain't no JiffyPop popcorn... and there ain't no Star Trek..anymore. Klingons, Romulans, Space monsters, time warps & other aliens couldn't kill the intrepid warp speed heroes....But the evil Woke bastards finally did. Start Wreck...where no one cares anymore.

[@eduardocruz4341]

Yeah, a follow up to the several tv series by Roddenberry and Berman could be the exploration of the Gamma Quadrant by Federation ship composed with Klingons, Federation, Romulans and the other unaffiliated planets to explore unknown planets. Call it Star Trek: The New Frontier or Star Trek: Gamma Quadrant. The ship would be bigger than the Galaxy class but would be the product of the combination tech from the Klingons, Feds and Romulans as a test case for future cooperation and alliances since they could forge a new friendship from their alliance in the Dominion war. Have the younger brother of Worf's dead mate who is also half human and half Klingon as the new captain but who is a throwback to ancient Klingons ways with red hair who like Spock has to merge his worlds as one. He has to navigate the different goals and politics of the different groups as well as explore unknown space....lol

[@Falconlibrary]

@@SuperEndiku Hamill has a disparagement clause in his contract. Don't say bad stuff 'bout Star Wars.

[@Celesteparadise]

@@SuperEndiku 👏 👏 👏 👏 Preach it, brother!

[@JLE8811]

Please keep these reviews coming!

[@FatNorthernBigot]

Your enthusiasm for Original Star Trek is infectious. Shame this isn’t that. 😉

[@basilrose]

Hollywood's 'Lazy Writing With Special Effects' formula has engulfed Star Trek and Gene Roddenberry has left the building.

[@michaelbeemer8019]

I had hopes after the first episode, but wasn’t surprised to hear that the second tanked it already. At least we have The Orville!

[@Nodux359]

Nope, that hope already escaped through the next airlock due to the first episode. KurtzmanTrek will always stay KurtzmanTrek.

[@renatus6883]

it didnt stink

[@pauld6967]

Absolutely right. The true heir to Star Trek's legacy returns with season three on the 2nd of June. The trailer for the upcoming season of _'The Orville'_ shows that they have made good use of the extra time. It is definitely going to scratch your itch for a quality science fiction space show.

[@NeverForget1776]

Set to debut on HULU on June 2nd. Sadly the cast was released after season 3 was done as there are no current plans for a season 4.

[@NatashaEstrada]

I'd watch it yourself. I found both episodes to be very enjoyable. People need to stop expecting a first season of Trek to be of BOBW quality. There were many really completely trashy episodes of TNG in Season 1&2. Both episodes of SNW are better than those. We really don't deserve whatever we think it is we deserve because we declare the baby dead when it doesn't delight us every single time.

[@nealsterling8151]

I'm glad you're doing these Episodes Reviews, since i won't watch SNW, no matter how much "better" it is compared to ST:PIC or DIS. As long a Kurzman or someone similar is in charge, no one can compel me to watch new Trek.

[@dirus3142]

It's not Sam, it's George. Only James called his brother Sam. Kirk out right said this in the OT episode were his brother was killed.

[@CallMeChato]

Just following the SNW script. Don't hurt me.

[@yankee1376]

No, he's Guy Fleegman from Galaxy Quest. Check out the KZbin meme

[@dirus3142]

@@CallMeChato of course. I see it as an indicator on how sloppy the show runner is being. They did not bother to catch that detail.

[@dirus3142]

@@yankee1376 he changed his name. Now his character is going to get killed.

[@Vipre-]

Meanwhile literally everyone else called him Sam as well, from McCoy, to the guy's wife. She regains consciousness in sickbay and asks where Sam is. Pretty sure the line about only Jim calling him Sam is from "What Are Little Girls Made Of?" not the death episode which was "Operation - Annihilate!".

[@Malt454]

"Being in the right place, at the right time" is a time-honored Star Trek convention; did Kirk's Enterprise ever really even have ONE failed mission (beyond not being able to start a war with the Klingons, in order to spite the Organians)? That said, if Pike's away teams are going to make the same kind of idiotic goofs that the "professionals" in Prometheus made, the crew, if not the show, is doomed. The point of training a crew in a organized service should be to take necessary, calculated, risks. The episode is just sort of a mishmash of TOS' "The Paradise Syndrome" and "For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky", so the writers have at least WATCHED Star Trek, even if they can't write for it.

[@NatashaEstrada]

Oh, come on. How many "red shirts" (yes I know they weren't all wearing red) died in The Man Trap from simply not being careful and getting the salt sucked out of them. Having goofy people who get in trouble easily and get injured and die is as Star Trek as it comes.

[@Malt454]

@@NatashaEstrada - Yeah, but people dying as a result of contact with a space salt vampire (which no one has encountered before) able to perfectly disguise itself at will, aided and abetted by a Federation scientist that you're supposedly going there TO help isn't exactly the same kind of overtly dangerous exploratory mission we're dealing with here (or in Prometheus). After all, it WAS just supposed to be a matter of dropping off some supplies and doing a couple of medical exams, not visiting Transylvania by moonlight. On what basis would your "being careful" have saved your life when this thing attacks when you're alone, can appear as whatever will make you most vulnerable, and you don't know what's going on until it's too late? There's a difference between suddenly encountering Dracula out of nowhere and just "deciding" that the atmosphere is safe to breathe. I'm only asking that the crew use reasonable caution, not be psychics. Then again, if the creature had been able to wait until it could get the salt tablets instead of just attacking, we wouldn't have had a show.

[@CallMeChato]

My rant was about all Treks not just this one.

[@Malt454]

@@CallMeChato - Maybe, but when a Federation vessel isn't in the right place at the right time, it isn't an episode... it would just be Tuesday. Maybe other vessels don't have the same "operational tempo" that these storied vessels do - but that's why they're storied vessels. We accept, really without question, that certain crews can, and have, saved humanity/The Federation/reality as we know it - but that's a issue separate from how those crews respond to the unknown and to overt threats.

[@kathleenhensley5951]

I thought about 'For the world is hollow and I have touched the sky" -- (they don't do titles like they used to!)

[@jp-ny2pd]

All the elements of a good story were there, but just seemed like it was told in the wrong order or with the wrong setup. I'd rather have seen this episode start as what they thought was a junk rogue asteroid, Uhuru was included in the away mission cause she needs the experience for her training program and it was deemed low-risk. Why did they need to be on the asteroid? Mineral samples cause of some strange material readings maybe. While on the asteroid, the ship attempts to attach the thrusters and THAT is when the asteroid shields up with a dampening field and they're stuck. Now the crew sees a power source that didn't show up on sensors, goes looking for it, and finds the Egg. That to me would seem like a pretty complete first act that would then lend itself to Sam Kirk trying to be a cowboy and touch the egg out of desperation, why Uhuru is so afraid and feeling out of her depth cause this was just supposed to be a ride-along, etc. Much better setup and still allows them to use the alien side-plot to fill runtime.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

You're hired!

[@jonsnow1410]

I saw the first episode of this series(for free on KZbin) and liked it just enough to want to watch the next one. Then I stumbled upon your KZbin channel and this critique of the second episode. I didn’t wanna watch it because I didn’t want to ruin the episode for myself so I watched enough to get an idea of what the episode is and if it’s a failure or not. You answer all those questions in the first minute of your video! I watch the entire video and laugh my ass off! Thank you so much for making me realize that I was right about my own critique of the first episode. I think I’m going to skip paying Paramount and just watch all of your critiques of the upcoming episodes. I think they’re probably better than actually watching the episode anyways. Thank you very much!

[@user-qy9rg3nt2l]

Hey, how did she know the audio sequences to lower the shields? How exactly is a rainbow made? How exactly does the sun set? How exactly does the posi-trac rear end on a Plymouth work? It just does.

[@captainz9]

The rainbow is caused by diffraction of the light by the increased water vapor in the air after a rain (or fog). The sun "sets" because the Earth is rotating. You can find technical drawings that will show you exactly how a posi-traction rear end works. Uhura knowing how to sing a rock (is it "Geode"? Sorry... Wrong franchise) into lowering shields it somehow has... Now that's a real mystery.

[@jefffunke252]

A nice homage to Fred Ward, who passed away this week.

[@user-qy9rg3nt2l]

@@jefffunke252 Indeed :)

[@bcs2em625]

Although not as bad as other nu-trek shows when it comes to a laughable lack of command structure, SNW still seems to be written by writers who have no idea on how a militarized organization (yes folks, that’s what Starfleet was always written to be-exploration and non-aggression notwithstanding) can effectively function in an orderly, disciplined manner. Suspension of belief by those of us who have experience in the field is notable.

[@Herfinnur]

Hu? Oh *harrumph* ! OH MY, DID YOU GET A NEW HAIRCUT OR SOMETHING? YOU LOOK FAAAAAABULOUS!!!

[@nolongeramused8135]

Uhura has been so miscast they should have just made her a new character.

[@axelhopfinger533]

Yeah, Nichols' legacy doesn't deserve this. But i guess Hollywood has simply ran out of classy and semi-attractive black women.

[@nolongeramused8135]

@@axelhopfinger533 That seems......... about right, but I suspect that casting a solid 3 in the role was deliberate.

[@ZakEmber]

Nice summary! Thanks for keeping an even keel on these. It gets way too easy for a lot of channels to just get into "hate bashing" for views. The material may stink, but just ranting that it does isn't as informative as commentary that jokingly points out what this series lacks in comparison to TOS, or where the plot seems to trip up. I grew up with Star Trek TOS in syndication, and the newest Trek shows just lack the fun and charm of the original series. I still think TOS had some amazing ideas in their episodes that never got fully explored, and I think my biggest issue with modern trek is that they don't seem to have any original ideas where it counts. Yes, okay, this is some new character, but what makes a good sci-fi show is GOOD SCI-FI ideas. This episode is just a mash-up of other similar Trek ideas of a living ship or benevolent, (yet not understood) space probe that communicates through music. My biggest criticism is that modern writers aren't good at making new products, (which they are self-aware enough to know) so they just keep trying to recycle other people's work.

[@greenarrow219]

Fun and charm is missing from the new series

[@kreimsnta]

The Orville is much better.

[@jimsummers3313]

You totally rock > I remember Wed or Thurs nights in the early 1980's attending live tapings of The Frantics for CBC radio broadcasts on Saturday!:) LOVE this latest review which is spot-on in my view and hugely funny too!:)

[@CallMeChato]

Thanks so much.

[@kentlindal5422]

Ah yes, I too use "My Adidas" as the password to lock my giant space egg.

[@nevillewatkins4997]

Sounds like they missed a trick. They should have run with the disco thing and had the shield around the asteroid reverberate with rainbow colours in time with the music. There you are, that's another base covered.

[@dindu42]

After sending the DVD of Discovery into a Black Hole only to watch it be rejected and thrown back I would have to say that SNW is a merciful release.

[@jefferyhodges8835]

Discovery is hilarious I mean I know it's not supposed to be but it's a spoof in my eyes and that's how you have to watch it anyways season 4 Discovery intro made me fall on the floor and laugh for like 15 minutes I couldn't stop asking myself for they serious and when I said yeah I just kept laughing even more

[@Draconisrex1]

Appreciate the reviews. I gave up on Star Trek during Voyager, came back for ST: Enterprise and was excited for the renewal until Discovery and the ST being turned into Woke Trek Haven't watched it since and every review solidifies my staying away from the renewal.

[@78my9]

"Diet Trek". Absolutely nailed it.🔨🤣

[@TheNuclearGeek]

"This is a smoking gun folks"... I've been waiting for you to come up with a decent excuse to use "Chekhov's Gun" organically in a star trek video and it was RIGHT THERE! 😭😭

[@Thandar324]

You pretty much said it all, I don't have anything more to add from your brilliant commentary. You are right in that all we want was a good story, but I think they are bankrupt on being able to provide that anymore.

[@formwiz7096]

How many times did Kirk have to destroy an asteroid, especially in the Black Hole Season? At least Pike didn't have to become a Wampanoag to do it. Kirk subspaces Star Fleet and says, "Remember last year when I fought the god Apollo? Well, I just became an Apache and they made ME a god".There's a reason they had a psychologist (called a "counselor", but we all knew she was there to treat the space loonies) on TNG.

[@crazygoose21]

I didn't realize that guy was actually Kirk's brother. Man do they hate TOS. I wish Uhura and Smock were actually treated with respect.

[@edgarplummer6750]

I had a small amount of hope when they had to use music to control the comets shields, reminded me of the Presearvers from TOS, when Spock used musical notes to save the Native American's planet - but this is New Trek so that hope faded fast.

[@crooster1]

Maybe a homage to "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" but that's maybe pushing it :)

[@jabojr5171]

You obviously have never been in the military, non of these characters would act and communicate like they do, it's crazy.

[@CallMeChato]

Hey don’t complain to me, complain to the show creators

[@JohnSmith-or8rh]

Great review! As I've said before, this show actually CEMENTS the fact that these "NuTrek" shows aren't in the "Roddenberry/Berman" universe. You can't have "cadet" Uhura in SNW as being shown as a "genius linguist" who can speak "37 languages", but then, "35 years later", she STILL doesn't even know how to speak even BASIC "klingonese" in "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country", and has to bluff her way through a conversation by using "Klingon Language manuals". That would be like Spock going from a being "scientific genius" to someone who doesn't understand what H2O is. Uhura in JJ Abrams "Star Trek" knew how to speak "klingonese", but she also was from an alternate timeline, like "NuTrek". TOS Uhura appeared to be more of an communications/operations officer/engineer than she was "linguist", which is further proof that "NuTrek" is NOT in the "Roddenberry/Berman" universe, except as possibly one of those "quantum realities" as seen in TNG's 7th season episode "Parallels".

[@alexmuenster2102]

>>she STILL doesn't even know how to speak even BASIC "klingonese" in "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country"

[@amandanowicki5294]

Your short review of this dumpster fire of a show is better than the actual fire.

[@CallMeChato]

I tried to make it exciting.

[@OpenMawProductions]

You know what I will say though? Diet Trek is a massive improvement over absolute shit that is Discovery. Honestly I think this cast has enough charm, and the writers are at least doing marginally better than they were with Discovery and Picard. If they can continue in an upward trend, maybe by Season 2 of SNW will get some good Star Trek again. That is IF the producers are actually actively trying to improve their QA, and not just happening to get lucky in a few places. Time will tell, will it not, Mr. Chato? Engage.

[@axelhopfinger533]

Only superficially. And mostly because they toned down the lens flares a little.

[@ronstewtsaw]

Last night I finished watching season 1 of TNG. It wasn't very good. Actually bad in places. But TNG got better. Much, much better in later seasons. So there is room for hope.

[@axelhopfinger533]

@@ronstewtsaw No there isn't. Not as long as KurtzGoldsman have any say in it. Simply because their track record so far is just unrelentigly abysmal and SNW already shows the same signature signs of carelessness and woke political activism disguised as entertainment as STD and Pukehard. It's just another turd but polished to a higher shine.

[@celticarchie]

Dude... it's the exact same shit.

[@balung]

STD is not Trek Cannon.

[@Elfrunner]

All this Uhura stuff made me think of Michael Winslow doing his motor mouth routine at the radar panel in Spaceballs. There's no reason for it, he's just doing it because he did it in Police Academy. Is this what the showrunners are going for, encouraging me to watch Spaceballs again? Because I have no problem with that. 🤣

[@jeffreytroublefield4265]

That's what makes me mad. We shouldn't have to be happy with this crap. I feel the same.

[@yankee1376]

Sure TOS had rubber Gorn suits and such but the stories carried it. These shows have CGI like we could only imagine in 1966 but now the writing is the rubber dinosaur head, and it takes you right out.

[@lordshell]

I had a quiet wake for Trek several years ago. You need to enter the "acceptance" phase of grieving.

[@3dartstudio007]

Screen sins could be forgiven if this is the episode where they didn't use tricorders to scan the egg anomaly and a crew member got hurt, so FROM NOW ON all away parties MUST scan for dangers with tricorders before proceeding. Is that what happened? Nah, I'm sure they haven't through of that yet. Good review!!!

[@JGlaister]

When Uhura was humming, was anyone else thinking about the tones from Close Encounters? "If everything's ready here on the dark side of the moon, play the five tones."

[@Scorbusous]

I don't think Star Trek is dead - I'm 34 and too many people my age grew up on TNG, DS9 and Enterprise (sorry) for that era to be forgotten. When this weird Discovery/JJverse wave ends, I think you'll see the torch passed back to people in the industry that actually like 'real' Trek. It won't go away.

[@seankayll9017]

Why sorry for Enterprise? It is an excellent series. The last of "real" Star Trek IMO. In the UK we have yet to get SNW.

[@dandeliondown7920]

I agree, Brad Shepard. Rotten things (like New Trek) die and decompose; healthy things (like Old Trek) live and grow and reproduce. Some things will live forever: Ulysses, Hamlet, Sherlock Holmes, classic James Kirk, classic Mr Spock, classic Jean-Luc Picard, etc. 🖖

[@MoonjumperReviews]

In my review, I talked about how the first episode was relatively strong for "NuTrek," but that the second episode (which is basically a straight up lifting of the "The Paradise Syndrome," without the romance), was an enormous step back for these characters. The cutsie, jokey, adolescent dialog and behavior we saw from military officers (yes, dammit, they're military!) right in the middle of a life and death negotiation with a superior foe threatening to blow them out of the sky was something right out of an episode of "Legends of Tomorrow" or "The Flash," very CW Arrowverse kind of stuff. It was certainly not becoming of one of the most decorated starship captains in Starfleet--on Star Trek. I can't imagine Jeffrey Hunter's Pike behaving that way. He would address the alien with a diplomatic, but stern demeanor. However, I did like the conclusion: Basically, don't be so quick to dismiss someone's religious faith. They may know something you don't. That was surprisingly un-woke of them. I was pleasantly surprised at that.

[@ethanforster]

As a Former Network Executives Denizen, I approve this message!

[@xxchuangtzu6186]

More reminiscent of TOS season 3's "The Paradise Syndrome", which features a better emotional arc.

[@karinefonte516]

Damn, who would imagine such ground breaking idea: a science fiction show without science and barely no fiction...

[@givemethedaily1052]

You are 100% right on the hair as well, doesn't anyone know how long it takes him to be ready for a scene? That quaff seems to have it's own force field or tractor beam.... Awesome hair, I hope he never loses it. You joke, but that hair makes me like the character more.....

[@jimjam51075]

Thanks for the quick and dirty low down in the thumbnail. (I sadly keep winning this type of personal bet about nuTrek) Look forward to watching this later today!

[@4CardsMan]

The past tense of stink is stank. Stunk is the past participle, and should be used with an auxillary verb such as had. So, yeah, I can believe that the episode stank.

[@CallMeChato]

I'll never remember.

[@Matt_Likes_Comics]

Been a fan since Four on the Floor was original run; but part of the appeal is that there is always an anomaly and they are there to deal with it. I always liked that part.

[@ScottRuggels]

Should have picked, “The World is Hollow, and I Have Touched The Sky”, for your TOS palette cleanser. Asteroid on asteroid action!

[@greycross7911]

My goodness, can we discuss another trope? The grumpy old man who yells at clouds perhaps?

[@scolaighe]

For what it’s worth the explanation of Uhura going is it was her away mission portion of her cadet experience. Yes, that doesn’t justify her being treated as an officer and a cadet - who isn’t even a probie yet.

[@chronomatt6990]

Communicating with aliens via music? Did the writers credit Spielberg and Close Encounters?

[@evilchaperone]

I'm trying real hard. I did like the message at the end. Number One needs to step up her game. She was stacked on Discovery. Now they got her all frumpy.

[@52moviesayear]

🎶 I bless the rains out in outer space🎶

[@chinocracy]

It's difficult when the writers and showrunners don't have training (or willingly eschew what training they have) in science or logic, especially for a science fiction program. So when that shows up in the final product, it does seem to be quite a mess.

[@drawnhere]

The shuttle's shields were set high enough to release heat energy, which broke up the comet.

[@Slitheringpeanut]

I'm sincerely trying to wrap my mind over this one here. They set the show in the past, which already has established lore, aka Canon, and yet, Star Trek fans are expected to ignore it and hope to get a good science fiction story that we're supposed to accept as Star Trek? I personally refuse.

[@00bikeboy]

Spock. Probably the most recognizable, iconic character in television history. Beloved by all ages, genders, and cultures. You would think it would be a fairly simple matter to review past episodes of the original Star Trek series to see what made him so universally loved, and simply recreate some appropriate dialog. Instead, the writers had him say: "Ha, ha,... sometimes things go so badly you just have to laugh." With this, the writers have set a new standard for idiocy. But I do have to agree with the sentiment, SNW is so bad I just have to laugh.

[@lancebaylis3169]

Well said. I don't think Gregory Peck's grandson is necessarily a bad actor, like Zachary Quinto before him, but neither actor has been given Spock to play in any recognizable sense. The scripts are the problem.

[@incubustimelord5947]

I feel sorry for Anson Mount. He is a really good actor and he is forced to play Captain Christopher Pike in Star Trek: Strange New Worlds. On top of that, he had played Black Bolt in the series Inhumans, and even had a cameo appearance in Doctor Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness as Black Bolt only for his character to be easily and quickly killed off by the Scarlet Witch and made to look stupid and weak. He is a good actor and he was in the Western series Hell On Wheels where he played a vigilante cowboy in the Wild West looking to avenge himself and his wife by killing a rich businessman and powerful crime lord who owns a successful railroad train business. That series was great and it showed Anson Mount to be able to play a very good vengeance-driven character and still carry a show for more than one season. He doesn't get that chance in either Star Trek or in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I hope that he gets an opportunity to be in more movies and T.V. series because his talent as a gifted character actor is quite underrated, and that's a crying shame.

[@NewAgeDIY]

What is this, the beginnings of a new book or a very long commitment? That said you made some good points!

[@incubustimelord5947]

@@NewAgeDIY Sorry for agitating your attention span. Or lack thereof.

[@doesthisdressmakemyazlookb8630]

Caught some of the Nerdrosphere (TM) collaborations where you recommended some older movies and TV shows. Would be great if you could recommend some more!

[@Freejack1971]

You got the thumbs up at 3:24. “Of course it fucking is!” Lol

[@grokwhy]

And speaking of foreshadowing, at the dinner Pike mentions that Uhura is on away team rotation. If you only send new people on away missions that are totally safe, you wouldn't get much experience. Sure, it was a cheesy setup, but at least it was a setup.

[@marcozolo3536]

You watch and review episodes, so we don't have to bother anymore lol. A big thank you, because I want to save my brain cells than subject them to this reprogramming effort.

[@-C.S.R]

😂 Your review was hilarious! You’re so right when all we want is just a really good story! I feel like we’re never gonna get another good Star Trek ever again it seems like?!? It’s like the writers know nothing about Star Trek and just treat us like we’re a bunch of idiots that will except anything they put on the screen, it just never ends:(

[@ronaldjeffrey8712]

Sadly alot of people out there are willing to accept anything they put on the screen.

[@bobitussinX]

I didn't want to be the first to say it, but I was sure the whole episode was a holodeck fake out test programmed just to test Uhuras special skills. When it turned out to be the actual episode, I was even more disappointed

[@ToddHowardWithAGun]

If this were a TNG episode, data would have analyzed the egg and said something like, "This object responds to harmonic sonic frequencies in a regular, periodic cycle." And Picard would say, "Oh, you mean like a song?"

[@CallMeChato]

Exactly. But in proper writing the protagonist (Uhura) would have caused the egg to hurt Sam and so she has to resolve the problem she caused.

[@jceggbert5]

I'm a younger trekkie and it's been a minute since watching any TOS, but this genuinely felt like TOS' 'random unbelievable bullshit happening in space' with some modern, ahem, 'considerations'.

[@SamiP-ik7vj]

It's a show tailored to the character traits and worldview of the people who are making it and of the people who are paying to see it.

[@emmettbeech5441]

Great review, although I liked this ep a bit more. ST is like an abusive relation for me; if they only hurt me a little I accept it. ALSO, to be nitpicky - Number One ('Una') has a line that Spock's shuttle is vaporizing some of the ice, and the sudden expansion of steam is nudging the comet. Which the comet knew would happen. Nu Trek is all about the feelings, the science is minimal at best.

[@thedungeondelver]

So basically they stole the plot of "For The World Is Hollow And I Have Touched The Sky" but without the gravitas and humanity of Bones facing his own mortality. God _damn_ I hate new Star Trek. They haven't gotten a single thing right since the last episode of the animated series aired, TOS Trek movies notwithstanding.

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

As long as KURTZMAN is involved, it AIN'T STAR TREK....

[@Citizen_J]

It was okay. Its the best "official" Trek we've gotten since Enterprise ended, and likely the best trek we will get for a decade or two. Not a fan of the dialogue, or how scenes are filmed (ie close ups vs full body shots), but at least it has people trekking through the stars.

[@joes9954]

You - and us - would have more fun seeing you reviewing Star Trek Continues episodes.

[@labmonkey2k]

I’ve noticed that Pike has to ask what to do next on the bridge so a woman can tell him what to do. Both episodes so far. The shepherds show up and are all get off our sacred comet. Where were you 5 minutes ago. Maybe a hang around your dumb rock if it so important no one lands on the thing.

[@wekurtz72]

Judging by the crew, what exactly do military-age men do in the future? Did we get into child care? Why have a security team of hockey players or linemen, when you can have tiny, angry women?

[@michaelappleton705]

Paul, fellow Torontonian (and Trekkie) here. LOVE your videos! A couple of things….it was a comet, not an asteroid (thus the title). Also, the Sam Rockwell example you were thinking of was from Galaxy Quest, wasn’t it? Otherwise, keep up the great work!

[@vwhite3055]

I gave up on Star Trek when Abrams' Spock was given the emotional maturity of an 8-year-old girl and Kirk, fresh out of the Academy, becomes a Starship captain.

[@seankennedy18]

Though I agree it's diet Trek TOS it still has good energy and makes me feel good as I'm watching it.. Hopefully it'll be a bit more canonical as we go around the horn. Still, the best Star Trek we've had in 25 years. Not sure if that's saying a ton, but it somehow makes me happy the last couple weeks. Don't forget, there were some definite turkeys in the past, and though this episode had its weak spots, you can't say "Spock's Brain" was any better. Be seeing you King Denison.