PETZL GRIGRI RAPID ASCENT DESCENT - First Time Learning

[@snarf9455]

YOU CANNOT LET GO OF THE BRAKE SIDE OF THE GRIGRI EVER!

[@despraterado588]

Yes you can. I never touched the slack end of the rope coming out of my gregory, and the only time I touch the lever is when I'm descending. Never had an accident.

[@barkerxsa7002]

@@despraterado588 Indeed you can but SHOULD you, absolutely NOT. Petzel themselves are clear on the proper use of this device, and state that it is imperative the brake side of the rope is always held. If the brake side is not held you are depending on a number of conditions being met for the GriGri to operate as you expect, and on the occasion those conditions are not met you are in for a nasty surprise. Just be safe.

[@despraterado588]

@barkerxsa7002 you just made the same argument as the argument for keeping your hands on the wheel at 10 and 12. I drive with my knee at 5 and have had zero accidents.

[@barkerxsa7002]

@@despraterado588 Thanks for the safety advice, will be sure to take note!

[@232Stangpwr]

The pulley reduces rope friction wear from rubbing on the carabiner. Also you should have had a 6mm lead from your hand ascender to your harness incase the Grigri failed it could have saved your life.

[@stephan_1507]

I don't even know where to start: - Never let your hand of the break rope behind the GriGri! Never, Never, Ever! That gets people killed - Never take any non rated piece of equipment for any climbing activity! - The anchor on top is not backed up. The first rule is that everything needs to be set up with a backup. Redundancy is king. treat everything as it can fail in every minute - The GriGri is a device for sport climbing, to for your application, it is not suppose to lock 100% there are other professional devices for those application - The Micro Traction is designed to lock the rope in one direction (if correctly engaged) , so it can act as a 3rd hand in a system. - Even in the times of online shopping: personal safety equipment should never be returned. If a shop refunds your purchases the equipment needs to be destroyed That list can be continued for another 3 pages

[@davidwalczak1297]

This video upsets me in so many ways, I feel you. It scares me to think kids and new climbers see this. Completely ridiculous, I'm just curious if this guy is still alive or by miracle he hasn't fallen to his death. Jesus, someone report this guy's video for false misleading information. It should be rated for entertainment and humorous purposes. Except it's not funny at all,people will get hurt.

[@urban_fox_cub_urbex]

yeah i never return gear if it’s not used it goes in a box how ever i do take non climbing carabiners with me to hold small bits of rope etc from my harness they are safe for gear holding but not for using to hold ur weight

[@mumtiTV]

@stephan_1507 Can you point to videos or articles with good diagrams for tree climbing with ropes and devices (grigri, micro-traction, one hand ascender)? Which device provides 100% locking if I am to entertain cutting tree limbs on a tree ascent. Most tubers are not suited for teaching and explaining where things are attached to and why. How to go about understanding the weakest link in a particular configuration. WL, BMS. GriGri don't show KN rating instead they list certifications? Most belay devices stop at 11mm ropes, why? How and where to create reasonable redundancies eg. should I be attached to a backup rope 100% of the time, is that feasible? Thank you.

[@mumtiTV]

@@davidwalczak1297 I fell to the floor after reading your comment, luckily I did not get hurt🤣 I relate to the poor guy, love the ding when he touched the top beam, oh yeah I could not ignore he is using a binner at the top to see much stress it can take sideways.🙃

[@mumtiTV]

for the 100% locking are you thinking of devices like, Notch Rope Runner Pro or Rock Exotica Akimbo for mechanical SRT?

[@cbigg81]

Please do not return life safety equipment. A reputable company won't take it back anyway.

[@nunyabizness6734]

Little late to the party, but, place a prusik above your gear on the line, load ther prusik, then change your gear and use the prusik as a backup as you descend.

[@jonathanp4128]

Can't properly see but at 13:42 it looks like you have a karabiner hooked through the rope and resting on the metal. There is a lot of side load on that karabiner and I do not believe they are designed to handle that much side load. A big tree or something with some diameter yes but probably not a small pipe. I would suggest you get a small 18mm wide climbing sling at whatever length you need. Wrap that around the pipe and clip the rope on to that.

[@aa_murphy8555]

A carabiner should NEVER be side loaded

[@1stFlyingeagle]

Rule no side load.

[@tangoclimbs]

Absolutely terrible set up

[@sirjames186]

So glad someone was able to talk to you about the grigri! I've been rock climbing for 15+ years and kept thinking you had too much gear and a simple grigri would work much better for you. I'm glad someone else with more rope ascension skills was able to teach you. You're going to get some massive forearm muscles soon doing all this rope work!

[@tjinyoe]

Adjust the lenght of everything to make it far more efficient. Also a warning; the Grigri will slip when it's not under tension. slowly release the pressure on it can cause it not to lock. (the idustrial versions like the RIG or ID's have a lock function for this). A simple pulley is beter for this application, however using the progress capture feature, you can use it to add safety as it will prevent you from falling when te grigri slips. If you keep the Microtraxion, replace D shap carabiner with a oval. This keep the load inline.

[@JR-kk6ce]

Thank you for showing us your learning curve. I know many will say you should take a course first. However, I'm sure I am not the only one who will learn it on my own a step at a time.

[@jesuschristtheking3598]

Thanks. Appreciate the honesty here and sharing the learning. Blessings.

[@rustblade5021]

for your own safety, PLEASE TAKE A SRT COURSE

[@samuelwild4239]

Looks like he's trying to work out rope access technique - IRATA training would be better.

[@bboyorc]

you guys and your expensive courses. Go and learn from videos and watching people on the wall my god. Do you need someone to hold your hand that bad?

[@blackravens5]

@@bboyorc YES! Why is that a bad thing?! Different people learn different ways. learning from videos are great if you learn that way. Learning by doing is how I best learn how to do something. And on my first time 70+ feet off the ground, I was incredibly grateful someone was up there with me who knew what they were doing.

[@mikekramer8252]

I have used a similar system for getting into and out of a deep cave (180m). Some tips to make it easier: 1) use 2 foot loops on one sling so both legs can help you to ascend. 2) Keep your feet below your body weight (i.e. under your bum) and step up gently. Your hand on the ascender is used for balance only, not to pull you up. If it helps you can keep the rope between your feet. If you get the technique right and keep the rope vertical, you can do this for an hour without breaking a sweat.

[@ReadySetGoPictures]

THREAD FOR THINGS WRONG IN THIS VIDEO. Things wrong here: - single anchor at top. - carabiner in single anchor is extremely cross loaded. - GriGri is not an ascending nor a descending device. It’s a belay device for climbing. You are not using it properly. - The GriGri will let rope out slightly when under tension, lowering you. - ascender does not have a carabiner at the top locking it to the rope. - there is no backup (knots) in the system. If the (wrongly used) GriGri fails, he would be stuck on a improperly used ascender. All he would have is an ascender and no backup knots. - Mixing non-rated carabiners with rates carabiners (nitpicking #1) - finger less gloves (nitpicking #2) Feel free to list other things you see that are wrong in this video to encourage others to not use this technique.

[@benjohnson5517]

The GriGri can be used for ascending and descending according to the American Mountain Guides (AMGA) as long as you always keep your hand on the brake or tie a catastrophe knot in the brake strand. All of your other points are very true.

[@BecauseYouHaveToHaveANickNow]

Other than the gloves, you probably wrote most of the things I thought of when watching the video. Those gloves are actually very good (I use them for T5 Geocaching). Black Diamond managed to find the exact sweetspot between allowing you to operate small objects (eg opening the cache container) without taking them off and not burning your fingers when braking the rope. What I would add (as an amateur without any course but with at least 100 trees climbed using SRT and some with RAD): - No way to retrieve the rope from the anchoring point (I can't see any second line or rope). - No lanyard connected to the hand ascender. He might get away with with when climbing RAD, but when he starts using that croll it will technically be his only connection to the rope (which it shouldn't be according to the manual and common sense). - Having the pulley at the bottom shortens your moves. I attach it at the top (so the move can be longer a few cm and the hand ascender is secured in the process). - He stated that he has problems keeping the croll vertically. It means he hasn't found that tiny loop attachment he should have got with the harness... - He stated it turned out he doesn't need the foot ascender. It's impossible to use it with the grigri (or an actual self braking descender) but he'll need it with the croll (especially at the beginning of the ascent). The croll has quite a lot of friction and you need the foot ascender to pull the rope from it (and it requiress less strenght to actually go up with 2 legs pushing). - You don't need weights with the foot ascender. You just need to go 1-2 meters up, and then the rope below is heavy enough. - That rope is PROBABLY dynamic which dampens part of energy put into climbing. (I might be wrong with this one but where I come from, statics are white or black and dynamics are coloured).

[@Schatzjaeger2]

- He also states that the pulley (Micro Traxion) does not help him in any way, which is not really correct.

[@davisplude1855]

I use fingerless gloves some times not all the times I have nice fingerless gloves that I bough that way sometimes I just use two sets of gloves lol. I love that you pointed out the non climbing and climbing carabiners, I’ll never and have never done that, other than a plastic carabiner that I attach my gloves to. The anchor is bad have I done it yes but I’m 15 I’m dumb. Won’t happen again also the gri gri is kinda being used in the right way ish I always have a “chest ascender” that I use as a friction hitch if I have to stop for a while. Tell me if that’s bad.

[@cesarschilling]

I love your enthusiasm but please take a course, make a stopper knot as you go up on the grigri and learn about 3:1 mechanical advantages. after watching your skills I would recommend you with replace the grigri for the Petzel ID's that comes with a panic mode for your safety. disregards all negative comments about staying on the ground but make sure you practice and I mean practice, a lot.

[@cottonrobinson9401]

I know this was posted years ago but my hope is to catch new climbers in the fact you said you were sending the rescue 8 back potentially and realistically it should be on your saddle as a back up and you should practice until you are able to proficiently switch back and forth to that so that it becomes a situation that can be done without thought so that if in an emergency situation you are able to effectively and efficiently switch over to a secondary system so that you are able to get down safely and that should be learned before you get stuck somewhere with no other person to help around!!!

[@davisplude1855]

Would just like to point out is that personally I never use “gear carabiner” I always make sure that I use climbing carabiners all the time limits confusion.

[@sbuzz5889]

dont forget the cellphone when u cant get down?

[@1stFlyingeagle]

You need a safety strap between your hand grab ascender and your harness. Just in case grigri craps out.

[@rickdebacker100]

I got a little tickled about your self rescue simply because I've been there.. Just today, I was experimenting with a foot and a hand ascender when my hitch failed. It just stopped grabbing... Unable to disconnect it, my foot ended up locked on the rope. Fortunately, I was able to hook an end of my lanyard to a carabiner on the bottom of the hand ascender which held my weight and gave my arms a break. I was just about to start cutting stuff when using the hand ascender and my lanyard, I was finally able to pull myself up high enough to release my foot. Learning this stuff isn't for sissies for sure.

[@johnhunter273]

Strong man shows his failures! "That's why we practice" love it!

[@joshua3231]

That is one of the best things in this video. It would be hard for a newbie to tell which parts are good or bad, but the fact that he gets stuck on rope in the middle of teaching is a major clue that something is wrong. Most of the video is major clues, but that is an obvious one that hopefully beginners will pick up on. And it does take guts to expose one's mistakes. That's how we learn.

[@coreymonroe3855]

The pullie is the help save friction on your rope

[@MarckVanHout]

Used a similar setup you used. I had a safety line going up also, operated by a safety person.

[@AustinPainter1020]

This video is just the training I need to start my industrial rope access career

[@BraxxJuventa]

It's good to see you're having fun with your gri gri! :)

[@everlast30]

you can block your ATC with a Prusic or Klemheist knot using accesory cord. I do that all the time when i am abseiling really long routes, or if i have to clean a route that i just climbed and i feel really pumped. that way i can let go of the rope and use my two hands to remove a pice of pro

[@terranhealer]

You can attach that pulley to a lanyard to make it adjustable in length.

[@kochlawnservicesgmailcom]

I skip your video before but I was like you and I have not use the gear in a year so I now forgot how to use them so I am enjoying your video off what I kind of went thru.

[@scouterryan]

I would Recommend CMC Rescue ROPE RESCUE MANUAL this is a made for a Technical rope rescue personnel and has a lot of techniques that utilize some of that Equipment you have. the book is about $65. The ATC is also a belay device if you have a Second person there as a "safety net" . Also what your doing might be better preformed with a Device called a I.D. rather then the gri gri (but if i do remember it is quite a bit more expensive), the pulley is to give you a smother mechanical advantage to assist you up(3:1 advantage).

[@Milenkoff1]

friend, you do not understand anything. Better delete video to avoid confusing beginners.

[@mudmanrv]

I'm also looking into this for recreational tree climbing - and my research would suggest a micro-pulley at the hand grab - as opposed to the friction grab. the reason is less friction on your rope. less friction/less wear. however - the friction grab is a nice safety backup if your gri-gri doesn't grab right away. I too purchased a hand ascender, foot loop, gri gri 2, and screw gate carabiners. can't wait to start climbing.

[@JDAfrica]

Ordered very similar items: hand jumar, grigri plus, mini pulley and a pro traction pulley, foot ascender and Croll L. All with oval steel triple lock caribeanees. For basic rope walking up a tree. Did you have any issues?

[@tonyneises5195]

boy, that looks like a good work out!

[@drewcunningham2]

all you need is a few locking caribiners, one ascender, a Grigri and one stirrup or simply a piece of webbing for your one foot.....you can ascend and descend super quickly and safely and it is an inexpensive and safe little kit......whoever advised you to buy all that, for what you want to do, must have been on commission as so much of it is never used and redundant, - a Grigri is the best device you can buy for both rappelling, ascending and belaying if climbing - figure eights and stich plates etc are rarely used at all anymore -

[@terryalexander5130]

You might want to keep the pulley. You may not need it for what you're doing, but if you think of it as a small snatch block, you'll find they're handy for all sorts of rope work.

[@ziploc53]

Glad to see you getting better

[@BearLeeBadenaugh]

Glad to see someone was able to give you some help. A little background RE the RADS system and the why behind the pulley attached to the hand ascender. From what I was told, the RADS was developed for inspectors in a containerized shipping facility. The pulley is there to give mechanical advantage as well as to let your off side do some of the work. I'd switch out the traxion for a standard pulley, though, if you even bother. Like you said, it's easy enough to run it through the biner. You don't need progress capture on the pulley, it's just one more thing to need to disengage. However, the pulley does eliminate quite a bit of friction, which prolongs your ropes life. It's really not necessary with the short distance you're travelling, but you could also try a MechRADS. All this would entail is using a foot ascender on the tail end of the rope, rather than just pulling it down with your right hand.

[@jima4656]

Most guys rig a "third hand" auto block knot on the brake strand that comes off their ATC to prevent the issue you described. I use an ATC Guide for gain capture in the same way you use other devices. It works well for that, but there is some work in changing it over to descend mode. The Grigri is easier in that respect. You are missing some other common safety practices, like a catastrophe knot.

[@rickdebacker100]

Please explain what a catastrophe knot is.

[@SnakebitSTI]

@@rickdebacker100A catastrophe knot is used when you want to take your hand off the brake strand of a device which is not certified to hold you hands free. It's tied below your safety devices, to catch them if they slip.

[@wdhish]

get a climbing book brother. you are doing so many things wrong at this point you are going to get hurt if you stay on this path.

[@TheLoobis]

Wait bro, have you ever gone rappelling? How new are you to this?

[@0dbm]

This ascending / descending stuff is a lot more difficult than you would think I thought I’d give it a try , but I’m gonna. Pass You almost trapped yourself 2 feet off the ground Thank you , excellent video

[@chewdog_82videos46]

A lot of great improvements and progress made.

[@carlosmartinezreborned6403]

What kind of harness are you using?

[@OutlawRippa]

Two ropes are better than one you should think about a backup line. Also use the chest ascender and just change over to grigri, much easier to climb. also never let go of brake hand with grigri a better choice would be the petzl ID or rig. I have rope access sprat 3 cert.

[@JDAfrica]

I was thinking exactly the same .. the Croll to replace the gri gri, and switch over to decend. I’ve also wondered about adding that Zigzag instead in time

[@James-ke5sx]

I'm also new but all I bought was a Ropeman 1, CT Rollnlock and closed loop webbing and I can go up or down and fits in my pocket. I have your twist locking carabiner but it's a triple lock, pull down then twist and turn steel carabiner and it ain't gonna open accidentally. Buy once and never return climbing gear

[@buddylove4089]

How come you have plants in the background?

[@sendit2873]

the grigri plus can be locked to use rad very easy it will lock without holding the rope and be sure when you climb to add a biener on ascender to lock it over the rope and no need to have your hand behind your back on your decent with gri gri

[@ScreamingReel500]

A Notch Jet Step for ascending, a Rescue 8 for descending (with a tending prusik and belay extender/sling). The grigri is not primary for ascending but helps not to switch out when going up and down, and creates a mechanical advantage (not much advantage comparing to the Notch Jet Step which like stepping on a ladder. No more sit - raise hand ascender - step on foot loop. You just keep the body straight and walk the rope with your leg. Using the hand just for balance not to pull up. Less gears and less work.

[@benblank609]

I don't know if you're a lefty or a righty, but it might be easier to put your right foot in the loop of the ascender in your left hand. I'm a righty and it would make sense to have the left ascender and the rope from the grigri in the right hand, but I would totally use my right leg to push up.

[@bobsthea]

nice video man, but you need to take sprat or irata course so you can understand function of your gear and have a proper technique to do this kind of work

[@arnoldmeulen]

What's the mode of the GriGri you used?

[@jonathanp4128]

Once at height and stationary. I would also recommend resting on a sling or nylon runner, not solely the rope and Grigri. If possible hook the sling or runner on to something else structural other than where your rope is.

[@JDAfrica]

I’m putting a very similar Frog system together - I’m adding a Petzl Grillion to the gear, and will use that to temp secure to along the way, as a temporary working second safety device

[@bartsimpson8117]

why are people so mad at a man for making mistakes? Not like he's saying to repeat the mistakes just he's just documenting them so fellow newbies can avoid such things, great video.

[@stephan_1507]

because that "instruction" video get people killed. People should post video with some responsibility in mind.

[@barneytreeclimber9929]

Funniest thing I've seen for a while cheers pal :D

[@ronmack1767]

Evening Jeff. That looked like a real workout getting up there and then a smooth ride or decent down. Enjoyed the video. Looking forward to seeing you master rope climbing. If you think of it next time you do a video like that show a close up of how that piece of gear works that let's you down slowly. Take care and God bless.

[@mudmanrv]

I haven't taken courses.... Other than researching on KZbin and watching the Cornell University tree climbing videos. You didn't use a safety carabineer on the hand ascender. That could have come off rope. Among other things..... I know of lot of comments say go take a course and such, but if you're like me. There are no courses within a 3-4 hour or day trip. Low and slow, and remember you don't know what you don't know.

[@VanlilfewithDaleandBailey]

Love the video. I was watching you at the top and was wondering how your going to get high enough to be able to work. Seems like your arms would not be quite long enough to comfortably work up there or am I wrong?

[@xdeth68]

Place the pulley and biner in the top accessory hole of the ascender, you need more space between it and the gri gri to pull more rope each time. Also that brake hand on the hip is not right place for arresting the rope w gri gri, the rope should arrest right below the gri gri through the carabiner should you need to. There are a few vids on here showing that and also for locking it safely off. Also use a secondary safety line with another attachment usually a prusik knot on a loop.

[@samuelwild4239]

Best thing to do would be to go on a IRATA Level 1 course but it looks like you're doing it right in terms of the RADS technique. However "Rapid" really refers to the changeover to descent in this system - there are other far more swift/effective methods of ascending and then changing to your GRIGRI to descend. - Instead of using the GRIGRI as progress capture, use your croll. To be more upright, tighten your harness upper a bit along with the waist belt and connections between the leg loops and waist belt. - Use the hand ascender and foot tape in conjunction with the foot ascender. The easiest way is to start with the hand ascender for a few strokes then sit back into the croll, attach the foot ascender when you have a bit of rope below you and then keep your feet next to each other. You advance up the rope like a Frog - push up with both legs till standing then advance the hand ascender and so on. This technique is so much faster and more efficient that it negates the time taken to switch over to the GRIGRI. - Finally, when you want to switch to descent, fit the GRIGRI to the rope correctly and attach it to your harness' attachment point. It should be on the rope below the Croll. Step up on your foot tape to unweight the Croll and you should be able to take it off. Then carefully sit down into the GRIGRI. then remove the hand ascender and descend.

[@mjriegs2]

Love your commentary RealMartian. Good to be able to laugh a yourself a little. You'll get the hang of it and more comfortable at heights, the more you do it. Nice job! Thanks for sharing.

[@michaelalbro6856]

Some of the tower climbing harness’s have a boatswain type seat built into them

[@rickhaller3328]

Good luck returning climbing equipment.

[@TheWhedgit]

i do very little climbing but i would assume a pully would allow less friction against the rope saving it's lifespan. plus a little less friction on climbing. But for no farther than you are climbing the pully probably wont matter. 200-300 feet and you might start to see the benefit of the pully.

[@perryfire1]

That was funny to watch. haha. Your anchor at the top is unsafe. Cross loading a carabiner like that is bad. A tensionless anchor would do just fine for that, look it up. You need a back-up line in case the main fails, this is called a belay. Look into a Petzl ASAP. Lots of guys don't use a belay but that's a chance not worth taking imo. No need for Petzl traction at the hand ascender but along as you keep it in the freespool mode it will work just fine. You want a pulley there however as the friction with a carabiner adds up in effort. Try using your foot ascender on the tail of the rope coming from the pulley. Drop the foot loop. Life will get a lot easier but you'll have to coordinate your movements a bit more. Rads stands for rapid ascent which isn't true. Use the knockoff Croll if you want to see some speed. But you have to train yourself to get into descent mode first. Good luck and stay safe.

[@jackjmaheriii]

I like the new thumbnails.

[@TheRealMartian]

thank you...I learned a new skill so it will probably take me a while to get it right but I'm trying to make them better

[@joetri1970]

I'm sure the pully has to reduce friction on the rope and wear on it.

[@pemyconsulting2955]

Great video. Refreshing to see Honest presentation and a guy learning. No bullshit and no sales pitch. Really appreciate. There is so much shit to buy out there it is overwhelming. I cant even buy a harnesss because there are so many types. I want to do rope ascension, fall protection, and work positioning. But REI said fall protection harnesses are too heavy and for babies.Another said just get the Petzl Avao Bodfast. Petzl is the shitz as far as customer service is concerned - you can call and call and the aholes never are there. The have too many options without clear purpose or choice. They are desinging a bunch of shit and thowing it on the wall hoping some of it will stick. Anyway dude - you did a great job. I hope you show your next video after practice to see what you have concluded after a little experiencel Keep up the good work, dude!!!

[@SnipezTTD]

Mini pulley would be good so if all else fails and you panic-grab the rope your fingers dont get caught up in the gri gri.

[@aldrinsangma5363]

Hello people before judging , read in the description of his video. He is not claiming to be expert in this field and he have mentioned clearly in the title of the video that he is trying it for the first time and peole shouldn't be trying this way. KZbin was created for amateur people who uploads random videos . If you want professional videos only, go to respective websites. Stop acting like experts and commenting shits in others' videos.

[@samrobinson9467]

Once you are at the top you could add a carabiner and a prussik knott attached to your leg and the rope for some added safety. I wouldn't trust the Gri gri on its own for SRT , Double rope maybe.

[@jackberdine]

Dude you’re calling carabiners D rings. Delete.

[@darylleaf2081]

Hey dude, love your enthusiasm however I rekon that with all the money you spent on the equipment you are unlikely to be able to return you could have done a SPRAT or IRATA rope access course and there you will get an understanding of what it is you are trying to do and be trained in how to do it safely. I was just waiting for your anchor connection to fail and you had no back up secondary line in place to arrest your fall if that were to happen. You will also learn about the equip to use so you won't waste anymore money buying stuff you don't need or won't work for you. Rope access is tough and you need to be fit to do it so know that there are also motorised devices that you can use without any effort these days too. For example, Unidrive and Skyhooks. When used with a seat they are also comfortable to use. I use them whenever I can because I have a stoma and tire easily because I get chemo treatment so I don't want to be using too much core and using my energy up climbing.

[@TheTriangle4]

This was a 9 out of 10 !! Only reason I didn't say perfect was you didn't show how to slowly descend with the grigri. Perfect for a newbie looking to get into climbing. Thanks for a great video

[@RTFMAce]

It appears that the pulley, attached to the bottom of your ascender, is giving you a 2:1 mechanical advantage when you pull the slack end of your climbing rope. It should be more difficult without the pulley in place. Using a caribiner as a pulley inside the z-rig, mechanical advantage system would work but, it adds more friction while the pulley would be much smoother.

[@JDAfrica]

It did look marginally easier with the progress pulley. As I understand, this also added a second lock mechanism for safety. I’d like to see how the Pantin foot ascender added to this would make it easier. It’s the exact same system I’ve been putting together

[@QALibrary]

apart from the first bobo the new set looks and feels a lot better, safer and easier to use

[@lovemyanela]

The micro pulley assists with tending the slack from the Grigri

[@aidanlapthorne458]

Who was teaching u over Skype

[@BecauseYouHaveToHaveANickNow]

Whoever that was, they obviously had to little time...

[@QALibrary]

The new set up seems a lot safer and better than ladders

[@alexroper3106]

The grigri is not a auto locking device, get a petzl Rig or id

[@heymofo1981]

Shorten the foot loop, waist height to floor works for me for rope access

[@Drinkyoghurt]

Wait, I'm confused. How did you drop after accidentally releasing tension on the ATC during your rappel. Were you not using a Prusik or autoblock because in that case I agree with Stefan, pls delete this video.

[@davisplude1855]

Drinkyoghurt no he wasn’t

[@ckienholz7206]

Please go take a class from a professional. It will give you so much insight into proper rope access.

[@24June91]

Great video. I watched a lot of these and I learned more from you then many of the others (even though they are experts and you are not yet).

[@joshua3231]

There are about a dozen different ways to do this properly, and this video takes a lot of the wrong things from each of them and combines them into a dangerous and inefficient technique. There are better ways to do everything in the video. I mean everything! The ascending, descending, gear combinations, things you said about manufacturers, level of experience before deciding to teach, certain things you said (a locking D-shaped carabiner is not a D Ring) and the list goes on. The good news is that there are plenty of groups that are willing to show you a safer, cheaper, more efficient way to do what you're trying to do and they would love to promote safety. Your platform here is a great way to reach people, and those people deserve to see the safe way to do things.

[@jerrybates5791]

Scaffold........safer?

[@kurtpalmer3674]

Texas Jerry would struggle to get it around the lanes easily and for the amount of time he will be up there its alot of time to set it up

[@davidwalczak1297]

I see this video is from years ago....are you still alive? Or did you by some miracle not fall and die..These are the videos that new climbers watch and go fall to their death. Scary to think I'm on a wall with people with this knowledge. I hope you have learned proper practice and best of luck to you. But some things shouldn't be put on youtube for kids and new climbers to see, this is one of them.

[@cbigg81]

Might also consider both feet in the loop for standing while you work, or two loops, one for each foot.

[@JDAfrica]

I think after adding in the foot ascender (pantin), it’ll add an extra element to make ascending faster

[@tek4]

Very f ing awesome

[@likearockcm]

At around 20 ft I would just use inexpensive scaffolding.Move the tables over ,then move them back. Doing the work of closing off the ends of the insulation will be very hard to do,requiring moving the rope which means more ladder work defeating the purpose of the rope climbing.Plus navigating material up there while using the rope seems not doable. sorry for being a negative nancy and I sincerely hope he can do it.

[@JDAfrica]

I agree to a point ... for this application a ladder or scaffold would work better... but, beyond that, and as a way to build additional skills ... that’s the benefit. As this system can be used for tree climbing / pruning as well. For high scaffold work, you would need additional safety gear, and harness - so, the investment into safety gear isn’t wasted.

[@johnverkler3962]

Thank you for showing us how to use the grigri, self belay. Is there an easier way to go up, like with a knee ascender, or something, with what you already have? You seem to be out of breath doing it this way.

[@johnverkler3962]

You need a Rope Wrench, a 30" prussic cord, to tie a climbing hitch, a hitch climber 3 hole pulley, a knee ascender, to go with your foot ascender, a safe top rope connection, to climb a tree. Good instructions from a professional. You need scaffolding to do your insulation job. You don't need to buy it, you can rent it. Unless you can use it for different other jobs then buy it. Am I wrong? Correct me if I am wrong.

[@tonyerwin9843]

Looks like you are going to need a ladder to initially attach your rope. While this looks like fun, I can’t see how much work is going to get done this way. If I were you I’d keep my eye on Craigslist for a small electric man lift, you could then use your climbing gear as a safety harness. Just my 2 cents.

[@kevinbyrne4538]

Yes. I doubt that this rope climbing gear is practical for actually working near the roof. If he intends to move big pieces of insulation, he'll need to move over longer distances than this rope gear will allow.

[@foddermucker]

Dude, I did exactly what you did. I wish I saw your channel before I've spent all this money! Bought a lot of gadgets, I still can't ascend and descend like the ones I've watch on you tube. It's almost a scam. You're lucky, you can send them back, mine I've ditch the packaging and all, I can't return them. I've spent almost $800.00 at the latest. I still haven't made a decent climb and descent. My hope is that I can figure out how to justify these purchases in the foreseeable future. Meanwhile, I'll just keep trying to climb up and then maybe climb down. Thanks for sharing your video.

[@MrPhrenzy]

Please attend an appropriate course, you simply do not know what you are talking about. Yes you get somethings right but it is hardly a good idea to give advice with the level of knowledge you have as it is hard for a beginner to separate good from bad device (read: potentially dangerous)

[@Maverick72nd]

You are still doing it wrong. The grigri should never hold your weight with the brake hand loose from the rope - UNLESS you have tied it of (look at petzl.com). That’s why you have the one way micro pulley. That will hold you. If you want to do it like this you have to use the petzl i’d. Wich is a grigri on steroids that also can be locked for hands off work.

[@glennreynolds962]

A little bit of knowledge can be dangerous and that's what you have. Very little knowledge. You have no business instructing anyone

[@staticfrequency2250]

Yep

[@ol6374]

He is not instructing, he is sharing his experiences. He says that at start of video.

[@anotherguy9402]

@glennreynolds962 you should repeat that to yourself.

[@glennreynolds962]

@@anotherguy9402 I know my limitations and what is safe and what is not. Im not the one advertising experience I dont have.

[@anotherguy9402]

@@glennreynolds962 I haven't seen any other videos he made but in what part of the video was he instructing?

[@philc457]

Not sure they'll be hiring you for the next James Bond movie just yet - maybe next year ;-) Good to see you don't need a whole shop's worth of gear to go up and down.

[@Guide504]

DO NOT HAVE NON CLIMBING CARABINAS ANYWHERE NEAR CLIMBING GEAR. It's not a game dude be safe

[@IanSlade1984]

I hope this is a spoof and not serious!? All the gear, well a lot of the wrong gear at least and NO idea. If it’s a spoof it’s quite funny, however if people take this seriously and try to replicate it, it’s dangerous. Get your self on an IRATA Level 1 course and get some knowledge.

[@mobaumeister2732]

he has the right gear, but just doesn’t know how to implement it properly. I use pretty much the same gear for RAD tree climbing.

[@jon_glass]

You won't be able to move the ascender up if the you use the micro traxion

[@L-36]

That was the funniest part of the video. Loved how he got down with the stool. Yep, that is why you practice.

[@scottishmale1970]

pull twist open carabiners are the best type 3 stage opening screw gate are no the best either are twist gate

[@monsflorumdeus]

Im scared how is your rope attached😱 If i take full video in one piece this is just the suicide instructions.

[@ropeaccessbangladesh2090]

🤓good