Peugeot 308 hatchback 2014 review - CarBuyer

[@conorcranks5617]

Love my 308, 158,000 miles later, interior quality is superb and far better than golf etc.. I also had the older 308 and drove it for 275,000 miles without a single fault! Nothing to camplain about at all, highly recommend.

[@MotoTokPL]

I absolutely disagree with the comments about the interior quality - having compared the 308 to its rivals, I think it's up there with the A3. Admitteddly, the rear legroom is compromised. Great car nevertheless.

[@derbigpr500]

You see, this is why car reviews on this channel are sometimes idiotic. Quality of materials is poor? What is she on? This car has better materials inside than Golf 7 and is on par with Audi A3. The only two places where you wont find high quality soft touch plastics is those two places that she touched, interesting isnt it? She mentions bad quality materials, but doesn't mention that entire door panelts and dashboard are covered with the highest qualty soft touch plastics and real aluminium and leather. The first thing that struck me when I tested the 308 was the quality of the interior. I drive a BMW 3 series E90 and 308 is better in terms of interior quality no doubt about it. The solidity and attention to detail is above Golf 7 level. This is just a typical channel where the car gets a score based on how much the manufacturer pays, and we all know VW group cars pay the most. I find it very frustrating to watch reviews of cars I know and have experience with and then hear the crap they make up about it that NOBODY who ever spent a second with the car would believe, but it actually ruins the car in the eyes of the people who havent tried it yet.

[@SwPiotrek]

I'm wondering why many reviewers do not appreciate french cars. Especially when they get excited with shop trolleys like Škoda CitiGo (aka ShitiGo).

[@niceboy60]

I drove BMW X5 , I drove Porches & Jaguars However I found this New 308 more interesting & Fascinating than those considered premium cars Why ? Anyone can build a Gas Guzzler , however to build a medium size Family car capable of 0-60 MPH in 9 sec + reaching 122 MPH and still getting 97 MPG is Amazing ( I do believe in MPG Manufactures claims ) they are achievable with premium fuels and by not exceeding 55 MPH

[@user-kw9qu2gz8v]

Low quality materials? Are you kidding me? I actually think survive should check if Volkswagen is backing the people who make these videos

[@runnyeggyolk6347]

Stereotypes aside, this actually looks like a pretty decent car for that price range,

[@FelipeCerdaBarra]

This review was too short! And I agree with the person that says that the interior quality is really good. She just touched the 2 places that are not covered with leather.... And then said the quality was bad. I didn't like this review.

[@SwPiotrek]

x2

[@bax450]

Only thing about buying an Octavia is that everyone thinks your a taxi

[@awesomealmighty9453]

Being the car of the year puts this car ahead of all European or Asian or American cars of the same range. It beats Golf, Citroen, Honda or even Toyota in the year or period of competition. Great car any day.

[@tw3ak1t9]

Thanks CarBuyer. I love the design of a Peugeot.

[@Alaatin61]

I love Rebecca's reviews.

[@vinclario3604]

Wouldn't trust that site one bit with my card details.

[@ricet8044]

I've test drove this at my local Peugeot dealer, first impressions I found it to be much to amazement! having wanted something different and not to have a hefty price tag like the German cars this would suit me just fine.

[@ricet8044]

I'm not 14 a lot older to be accurate 21 now

[@gefrey54]

In many test realised by really professional, the 308 appears more economic, more silent and confortable than the golf 7 and it's cheaper than the VW !

[@41infantryman]

i have been driving 1,2 puretech 130ps eat 6 automatic with middle active trim and 16 inches alloys in turkey. and here is my honest thoughts. it is a top notch car. swift enough (almost 9 sec. 0-100 km or 0-60 milesspeed up) it is frugal let me instance it, if you drive very careless and push 140 km/h and generally 120-130 km/h it consumes around 6,5 liters. if you drive around 120 km/h and barely exceed it, it consumes 6-liters (on 100-km distance) and if you be careful drive around 100-105 and never exceed 100 if there is no downhill and if you uphill around 90 km/h you will probably see under 5,5. my last try was 5,2... also handling and feelings of steering is very well (especially compare with my previous Hyundai i30 n kia ceed). when i pass the staring to my mates to drive it, i always see the well satisfy by them. everybody WHO try they like the car. shortcomings?? well they re obvious limited back side that is consequence of large boot which is leader in it's class. also there is no proper space for ur small belongings around driver seat. and this touchscreen. climate contols are must to be sperated thats for sure and obvious fact. Beside this car is almost 2,5K cheaper than golf 1,2 tsi comfort dsg (i know it is huge and thanks for greedy vw importer company) in turkey. anyway to sum up this review is a bit cruel. dont you agree?

[@tebona]

There wil be a day, far far away from now, that an english channel will do a positive review about a french car...

[@dufonrafal]

The interior quality is one of the best in this category…

[@simonl1785]

I drive a '14 plate version of this car and i love it.

[@Hmmmppffff]

Great Car, bad review This interior quality is great.... thouching the only 2 things which are hardplastic and then say that the interior quality is poor. That is no fair, Shame on you. Every Golf or other Compact car has more hard surfaces.

[@ricksanchez2483]

Terrible Back seats !

[@Hmmmppffff]

+Lman_beast yeah... not enough space....

[@jin5632]

+Radioaktivify Everyone want metal interior nowadays

[@41infantryman]

+Lman_beast and class leader boot. there is a dilemma beetwen them

[@MultiEthernet]

I have this car ,i fully agree with you

[@nickcobra4638]

Rebecca I normally like you but here I just can't deal. My dad has just had a brand new 308 and yes the materials inside aren't great but the minimalistic design looks great and unless Peugeot has improved the touch screen over 2 years it works perfectly for us

[@SumoGambit]

Laughable to see these UK reviews of French cars. Outstanding french cars get totally average ratings by British reviewers, but at the same time they can barely keep their noises out of German and American car manufacturers arses. This exact car, same model, Peugeot 308 wiped the floor with it's competitors and was chosen European car of the Year 2014. But in British reviewers eyes it is only an average car, not able to compete with it's competitors from Germany and US. Check other UK reviews, it´s going to be the same.

[@jp_0118]

Oswald Mosley I just don't like the fact that the AC controls are on the touch screen. Because if the screen were to mess up for some reason then you're stuck, hot and bothered in a car with no Air Conditioning

[@jackf1841]

SumoGambit Absolutely true. It's just jealousy towards the French, who still have large car manufacturers/brands - unlike the UK... It's pathetic. This car is absolutely great.

[@nickcobra4638]

It's not average to me, it's luxury and I'm British 💁🏻🙋🏻

[@carbiify]

+SumoGambit I like this 308, and the French have made some classic cars over the years, but to say French cars are outstanding is not true. They make great engines and chassis, and they look good, but they are well known for electrical problems, suspect build quality, being difficult to work on, and expensive parts. Before you ask, I think German cars are overated by the reviewers, and not just British reviewers.

[@carbiify]

+Zeno D Peugeot has been bailed out by the French government at least twice to keep them alive. China's Dongfeng and the French government both have a sizable stake in Peugeot. If it wasn't for the French Government, Peugeot would be foreign owned, or dead already. If Peugeot needs bailing out, then they're not selling enough vehicles, which means they might not be not good enough.

[@ghp0518]

I was looking forward to see a review for this car ever since I saw the 308 interior design is simpler and more refreshing than other cars. The review is probably the shortest review I've ever seen from Carbuyer and doesn't explain why which makes it a bit questionable. In the 208 and 508 reviews I haven't seen complains about materials quality (maybe the amount of antracit colored plastic in 508 is a bit much) , it seems a bit weird for 308 to have bad interior quality , also the video does not quite well explained what exactly leaves the impression of bad quality. I also wonder why she tells the display controls are slow and hard to use - give an example of ease of accessing car functions (climate control , navigation, mpg, radio etc ) compared to other cars. Also she say there is not enough room in the back yet no visible knee room and head room test. In my opinion this review is much too flimsy to be trusted, and it determined me to schedule a test drive for the car and see it for myself

[@kgachapiso]

Happy New Year!!!! from Japan

[@Nick22051]

we still have to wait some hours :D

[@jebediasnezapamatovatelny1326]

PF 2014 from Czech Republic

[@Samfamson]

Happy new year from Melbourne, Australia...

[@Damayn]

It looks very much like an Astra from the front.

[@erciolair]

happy new year carbuyer & rebecca

[@q3b26]

I just returned a 308 Allure after a 2 day test drive. I returned the car early actually. While I didn't like the interior when it was first launched it grew on me and I've had my eye on the Feline version for a while which they don't do anymore. My first impressions were "wow, is this a Peugeot", however then you see where the cost cutting has been made... The windscreen wipers have had no thought put into them and don't clear a great portion of the screen, the sound system is by far the WORST I have ever heard in a car. I'm coming from a 2008 pre-facelift Ford Focus, while also top-of-the-range, it benefits from an excellent sound system with a huge amount of bass. The Peugeot however has no depth to the sound quality at all. The only way I can think of to describe the sound is by holding a bed sheet taught and hitting it with a stick, that would be a replicable sound. I thought the gearbox was also quite weak and I often found it difficult getting into second and it would crunch going into reverse, fifth or sixth. I test drove a 1.6 BlueHDI with 120HP and it had more guts than my 2.0TDCi from my Focus (also a PSA engine). I wondered if the 2.0 HDI had a different gearbox paired to it but the salesman informed me that it's the same engine just tweaked for more output with the same mechanics. Driver and passenger seatbelts also did not have any height adjustment and I found it to be positioned too high. Lastly. The infotainment system is just shocking to use, very slow and clunky. Once you get used to it, the workings become a but easier but there's no quick way to turn the AC on or off and if you want to change the climate to mono (which I use all the time in my Focus) it's hidden in a sub menu. The Bluetooth also took an age to change song, you press next and wait for the screen to change the song and then you have to wait for the system to request it from the phone it sometimes took up to 10 seconds just to change a song which is not an issue I've had in my Focus, Mondeo or even a Laguna I once owned. The salesman was also not interested at all and was extremely rude, I would not be returning there even if I intended to buy the car. Other than the faults that stopped me from purchasing one. I found the car to be excellent with extremely good body control and handling. Sorry for the long comment, I just tried to get my honesy opinion across and of course a few of these things are subjective to myself and the way I drive.

[@iDroidiTech]

Happy New Year!

[@isaacfox732]

Wish these where available in America. I actually prefer it to most of the hatchbacks available here.

[@stephen10.]

+Isaac Fox PSA returns in USA soon , it will be official the 4th april 2016 with press conference.

[@xride09]

Amazing car....just ordered mine :D

[@Kacicka999]

I hate Rebecas reviews. They should finaly kick her and let Mat do them all.

[@ScottZ370]

your wish is granted, are you God?

[@JohnTaylor-np9my]

Its the same crap that the so called car experts say about the Alfa Romeo Guilietta!! I have had my Alfa 1.4 Veloce TCT for 4 years 70 000 miles & its never missed a beat. I'm looking at the 308 as a possible change..the car looks good! Interior is one of the best looking in the class. Golf looks drab compared to it. But..the Guilietta is STILL the best looking hatch now in 2022. I recently bought a mk2 BMW Z4 2.5. Looks great..but I still enjoy driving my Guilietta more..& its nearly as quick! I've had 3 Mercs an Audi & now this Z4. They are overrated! You really do pay for that badge! If your after a car purely for reliability..buy Japanese..if you want a car for pure driving experience..buy a Lotus..end of story!

[@janrdoh]

Does anyone know what that little square indentation is on the rear view mirror @1:06? My car also has it and I noticed it on just about every other car out there . Can't be for a camera or sensor because my car has lane departure ,rain sensor and light sensor for auto lights and they are all in a separate housing .

[@daredevil7442AUTOMOTIVE]

Rebecca, you test drive all these nice cars....so, what type of car do you drive?? Porsche??

[@daredevil7442AUTOMOTIVE]

Rolf Claes That would be nice but, more like a girls car, VW Bug....hopefully turbo!?

[@rishigangotra]

Rebecca, awesome reviews all the time. I really like the way you speak up and present lovely reviews all the time. God, you are so Lovely!

[@petarmaksimovic4048]

I came here to see how's the ride and handling and apart from saying that it's comfy nothing else was said.

[@Mladjasmilic]

Best looking Peugeot in recent years were 106 and 206 , maybe 406 . Actually , all Peugeots ending with '6' were better looking than today's . Thare are some cars that are made perfect and should be kept making forever , like Citroen DS and Saxo , Peugeots 205 and 206 , BMW's first 3 series , MK2 Golf , Beetle , Astra F and Corsa B , Mercedes 123 and 124 , Fiat Punto MK1 , original Panda .

[@fundiver198]

I don`t agree. I think the current 208 looks much better than either the 206 or the 207.

[@Alaatin61]

Very good

[@BestCarSound]

The fog made nice atmosphere, but something's missing

[@tyraela115]

The sun maybe? :)

[@BestCarSound]

tyraela115 :D Maybe. But something's missing about her reviewing the car, too negative and didn't sit in the back to see how exactly much space in there

[@Theo-xr5uq]

Lovely car, would rather have this than Volkswagen golf anyway

[@SinkyYT]

I've just called the men in white coats, they'll be round to pick you up shortly!

[@Theo-xr5uq]

Lol, honestly, I find the golf common and boring. We all have different opinions though.

[@TheYassino99]

VERY DISAPOINTED : I am from Morocco and i always watch your reviews. not to chose what car to buy but essentially to know what's new in the market (car fun). i find your car reviews quite simple, precise and very helpful. they goes over every caracteristic of the car (practicality, engines, design, ..) by testing every one of them in a very accurate way. However, i find your review of this peugeot 308 (that is a very expected car) very very pooor. you have not dedicated enough time for it, you speaked well about the engines, design and ride. but your reviews were all about completness. praticality test is poor, only the boot is tested, rear passenger space and practicality in the front are not tested and you say they're poor and that the dashboard is bad. how in the hell are we supposed to believe that without at least seeing it in this video!! so i am very dispointed with your review of the 308 especially that it's a whole new car that is very expected and not just an evolution. and if a second video is not done to correct this huge mistake, i might seriously consider conspiracy theory (you're putting in disadvantage french cars without apparent reasons).

[@stephen10.]

right , the dashboard has a very good materials (exepted this little plastic piece near the gear shift ) . it s a pity that peugeot don 't change this little problem ) it would be easy for sure .

[@lambosuperl]

Why didn't you write 2014 Peugeot 308?

[@theslimeylimey]

Somewhere there's an alien wandering around demanding to know who took his gloves. Sleep with the light on tonight.

[@suhaizad123]

The proof is in owning and driving one.😎

[@simonl1785]

Im just about to puchase a 2014 308 after a test drive of course

[@mariusm2298]

Well it looks good, but without spark. Peugeot was always offering aggressively stylish cars ( until now).

[@nHeroGo]

Matt and Rebecca are great.

[@leegreveson]

any chance of a review that doesn't compare the model in the video to a VW Golf? Every flippin' time "Golf this... Golf that...". We don't all own Golf's you know - so we don't need that pointless comparison.

[@28DLFTW]

She is clearly more VW educated. She wouldn't know a Peugeot from a Fiat. She doesn't know that much about cars either judging by her review on the last generation 308 either.

[@williamsantos6681]

Lee Greveson yeah, agreed 100%! c'mon just review the car in question, no matter the brand, and forget the Golfs a bit.

[@Kaibo1997]

I am glad Peugeot restyled the 308 I think this is a very good looking car whereas the old 308 i thought was very ugly

[@flako6456]

Im looking to buy same model 2014 308 S/S Active 1.2 Petrol Automatic. I would like to get ur advice about the Engine of this car or the most problems the car must have on the long way of having the car… Im new driver just go my license couple weeks ago and i like car.. Appreciate any advice 😎🙌🏾

[@shad69fj]

We miss you rebecca

[@isacjonsson5016]

The New 308 Looks great but i would still keep the Renault Captur that i have today which i think is a better car in most aspects accept maybe the boot

[@ryanthecontortionist]

I think it looks rather good but I would not trade down from my A8

[@97pedrocas]

who would trade a audi for a peugeot??

[@ryanthecontortionist]

Got rid of my audi for a bentley continental GTC

[@RurouniNikos]

hey matt!i would really appreciate it if you could do a review about peugeut 307 cc!i just can't find a decent review about its specs and other stuff!and i prefered your reviews since the time you made from i motors was it called!so i would love to watch a review of that car which i consider to buy second handed!

[@Rytis36]

If I didn't know older 308 existed i would say this was facelifted 307

[@valdenegro1]

being ironic?

[@antzoulogatos]

I ADORE Rebecca... Including the so informative Car Reviews that she does! Keep up the good work Rebecca!!!

[@johnhunter5490]

it looks like a golf from the side

[@niksarass]

Much better looking than the cubic golf. More like an Audi.

[@johnhunter5490]

I don't like the front and the wierd interior

[@terrysky83]

Just love the romantic English weather

[@bertusnel2870]

They should really upgrade their in-car video camera, the qaulity really sucks. Just a suggestion...

[@TheMcooper17]

so, DRLs are optional huh? Good idea, know what else is a good idea? cars that arent bloody silent at slow speeds

[@technick7986]

Did I miss it or was there no back seat part?

[@qunamaxamus2425]

What have they done :( Looks like mix of audi and kia, i want sharky front lights back.

[@streesmut70]

Review for New Hyundai i10 , SX4 S-Cross and Outlander

[@meryuk]

Rebecca is a household name now

[@carlosrd68]

Too bad they don't offer Peugeot here in the USA. At least, here in Dallas or anywhere in this Texas state, can't seem to find one (1) dealership.

[@LK-uq6dj]

What about the back seats?

[@KPKaccountt]

I think it doesn't look as attractive as the older generation. The older ones look exotic and unique. The recent one looks like an ordinary car. But this is just my personal opinion.

[@prince9750]

can u try to review the bmw 6 series

[@BenzinioB]

How about the steering wheel? I am 1.64 and when I tested the new 208 everything under 50km/h and over hundred and something in the instruments was hidden from the idiotic steering wheel - is this better or still should rise the sitting position to the level of horse wagon?!

[@SwPiotrek]

Other reviewers said that in 308 instruments are set differently so there is no problems from 208.

[@BenzinioB]

SwPiotrek Hope so, because overall I like the looks

[@kylio85]

RebEcca please COME BACK!!!

[@geokalyvas9796]

Very very very poor review! Please make another one more analytical and in depth (she is pretty! but i prefer the guy doing the reviews).

[@TheTonicro]

"purely forgiven because of its size" thats what she said haha

[@joshstreet3919]

would prefer the Seat Leon FR

[@gisellekalengankongolo7737]

Hatchback (pre-facelift) rear

[@floyd_m4n]

brilliant suite a small family

[@thedon404]

looks really nice

[@Pandamasque]

I sooo wanted Peugeot to succeed with the new gen cars, but they've done to this what they've done to 508 and the C4. Now it's just as dull as the German rivals, but not as good. They'll lose their niche buyers without gaining any mainstream ones.

[@fundiver198]

I don´t agree. It looks much better than the old 308, which to be honest was a bit of a minger. And didn`t sell well either. So this is actually already Peugeots attemt to COME BACK in the C-segment, not to stay in it. If they will succeed remains to be seen. But its a tough market with eg. korean brands having lower production costs and german brands at least a perception of better quality.

[@Pandamasque]

fundiver198 The fact that the old 308 was terrible doesn't invalidate my point. I'm just sorry that they try to outskoda Skoda instead of making a better Peugeot.

[@arturoagr]

SERIA GRANDIOSO QUE AGREGARAN LA OPCION DE SUBTITULOS EN ESPAÑOL Y OTROS IDIOMAS

[@Dreadpirateflappy]

French gloveboxes are always shockingly small, they don't even get the small things right like cupholders. My citroen DS5 has 2 crappy cupholders and neither can fit anything largfer than a can of coke.

[@KPKaccountt]

So sad to see Peugeot losing its design identity. I hope someone working from Peugeot will see this and report to the company.

[@kristiaan1]

I do actually think Peugeot is finally getting some identity. The outside looks of 308 and 508 are some of the best between the rivals in my eyes, and the interior is just spectacular... Shame about the materials and the slow touchscreen.

[@SuperBunkerbuster]

I have nothing against car reviews performed by Ladies, but seriously... How can I trust feedbacks given by someone reviewing a car with a coat and lined gloves ?!

[@JohnyMcNeal]

What about the instruments? We can see that wheel is in center of view line... All in all one has to be mad to buy this car it seems :/

[@rui518]

she is to small and don't have adjusted the siting position in order to see the dials...

[@emaniebo]

We have a 307SW for the last ten years and it's been usable as ever. This looks much grown up compared to the old ones. Still, Rebecca's luscious lips are worth looking. Isn't she gorgiss? I just didn't like them in 'I Want that Car' programme in ITV. Their talents are so wasted in there.

[@gilesrobertson9974]

Dear Peugeot. Please move the goddamn fusebox to the driver's side (includes the 208).

[@GeneHunt406]

The fuse box is on the drivers side - in France!!!!

[@KPKaccountt]

Bryan O'Donnell lol

[@SwPiotrek]

Rebecca didn't do a good work.

[@JurgenDX]

I'd still take a Skoda Octavia any day.

[@derbigpr500]

Octavia feels like a tractor after driving a 308.

[@SwPiotrek]

derbigpr500 Especially with 1.6 TDI engine.

[@JurgenDX]

derbigpr500 You obviously have never driven the new octavia... I own one and let me tell you,the peugeot feels like an 80's economy car compared to it,especially the interior quality and the overall refinement. The octavia is also quite a bit quieter on the inside. And trust me,i'm not being biased,i have driven both of them and this is the reality.

[@JurgenDX]

SwPiotrek Well diesels are like tractors on any car...Petrol all the way baby!

[@SwPiotrek]

hmmm for most cars is like, you've said. But, in Citroën C5 PH1 I couldn't hear diesel engine at all! I was very surprised.

[@poooooow]

To bad, now it looks like the standard.... Vauxhall, seat, golf.

[@u2santi]

You guys have something against French cars. You always find something to criticise just because

[@q3b26]

Looks good from the front, looks good from the back, but what is with the sides and that ugly interior?! I see an early facelift coming on.

[@28DLFTW]

I don't know if it is me. But I really don't like those infotainment dash screens. I think they are too complicated to operate (especially whilst driving). I mean, you can't use a mobile phone while driving, so why is it ok to look at a laggy screen fiddling about with it? What's even more worse is the cars main controls (heaters, A/C etc.) are all based on the screen, and you have to click on and off different screens to get the right thing. I think the screens are damn right mischievous, and shouldn't be aloud in any car. Don't get me wrong, I love Peugeot. But I don't think they should have these screens in, at all.

[@daveh9415]

I'd never buy a Renault or a Peugeot as the interior build quality always seems cheap. The TV ad makes the revised dash seem like a good idea, until you see a real review and it just doesn't seem to work.

[@niksarass]

Renault interior build quality is still quite bad, but Peugeots interiors have really improved during last 10 years and are on par with german interiors if you look at 508, DS3, DS5, 308 etc etc

[@bmwnasher]

WTF, 30 sec ad for a Skoda at the start.

[@ethanch3011]

I got a 30 second ad for this exact car, double WTF

[@bpatryk69]

...Skoda Octavia is in a different class Rebecca, it's a bigger car.

[@sakal88]

Thanks Peugeot for making this good looking car with UGLY and weird dashboard. Also the car is almost as expensive as an GOLF ?! Only decent diesel cars are Leon, Focus and Golf, no change there :-(

[@lloydharmon5278]

Who even need soft touch material on climate control panel and airbag cover?? LOL haha

[@nO_d3N1AL]

DAT MPG...

[@AdamAus85]

Looks good, but the front grill is kinda ugly.

[@reverendbluejeans1748]

Why make a car that's could be mistaken for a golf but fail on the interior.

[@stephen10.]

it doesn't fail in the interior , the plastic are as good as a golf .

[@reverendbluejeans1748]

The lady does not agree. The Skoda Octavia might be a good choice, and I can pick up a used one..

[@stephen10.]

this lady is english and you know how the englishs like the french poeple !

[@CrimsonA3]

New cars are getting more and more boring..

[@lewyn4k]

too bulky too

[@Miganto1]

HectorNintendoCraft Cars have always become bulkier with each revision. It means they can bring in newer smaller versions and then phase out the larger ones.

[@lewyn4k]

Miganto yeah, but i think the mini these days should be called the fatti lol

[@stereo408]

it's look like beauty this car from future u can find this material on future car example the dashboard no button and a small steering wheel in fact the safety on top rating go check on "euroncap.com": if u open the door u see the future over u forget the older and rubbish car with button also restyling car like a golf this is the new generation and a good value and efficiency if u want to sell it u can sell them at 2024 :D and if u want to buy a golf be shur the next generation will be on 2018 :D not like P 308 and i wish u a good year with happiness and love :) peace

[@metinkaradeniz5753]

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[@tucosalamanca5194]

I think il get the volvo c30