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[@pavel8754]

I just wanna say that I love you as a good person, Bjørn. For all of your participation for EV community and reliability of your tests, you’ve done a lot of work already and I hope you will make us happy further.

[@bjornnyland]

Thank you for the feedback :)

[@jeanpierrepioge1781]

Pavel Bravo👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@jordanthomas8359]

Agreed. Also, should totally do a collaboration with @EVMan (maybe when the current Unpleasantness subsides a bit..)

[@krugerdave]

Could the 2008 have better/newer firmware for better efficiency? That is a big gap in consumption and the 208 you tested was very early...

[@bjornnyland]

Weather was different.

[@MrTechfreak95]

thats exactly what i thought.

[@calinstefan2683]

I asked for this review since april, meanwhile i already bought this car :)) thmbs up

[@szigmat]

Calin Stefan How do you like it so-far?

[@keithware5314]

@@szigmat please can you tell me if you can get a set of golf clubs in the boot with the seats up? I do like the look of this car.

[@asaha7547]

@@carsonj1 0,1 Taycans. Nonsense question = nonsense answer

[@stefback166]

“Je ne sais pas 🤷‍♂️ “ 😂😂😂

[@MacGyver1908]

That’s the big brother of my e-208 🥰👌

[@michelmelinot]

Got the e-208 since August 21st and that's an awesome car! Very fun to drive and beautiful!

[@Nathanhelmer2]

Your name is TESLA DIY and you have a Peugeot

[@bjornnyland]

He also owns a Model S Performance.

[@MacGyver1908]

Oriol Sabater Hi! It’s tiny in the back, but as wifey-car is perfect, we love it 👌💙

[@RoaldHemel35]

Great choice Pawel!

[@enco8788]

Nice car .. i like the Peugeot design!

[@ttgeek]

A slightly more crazy tesla björn in this episode. Liked it!. Highlights is manically rubbing the carbonfiber and remaking the snake-moshroom song with mjösen

[@crashtestdummy6130]

I upthumb most videos by Bjørn, except the ones he say Mjøsen in.

[@rvdwal1991]

@1:42 ...Random person at the gas station... what is that man doing to his door??? But seriously. Is the 12v batt. Problem witch occurred at the 208 also present at this 2008?? Or any charge problems?

[@bjornnyland]

Timestamp?

[@rvdwal1991]

Bjørn Nyland hahah Bjorn I meant you of course 😅

[@massimilianoolei9255]

The + pole clamp on the battery have a fast detaching system like in the e-208 , so maybe peugeot know that it could happen you have to detach the 12v battery for some minutes..

[@niklas1759]

I agree about the ride. I work at a Peugeot dealer in Sweden and a drive this two cars daily and the 2008 is much quieter and the suspension is much smoother on the 2008, maybe a little to soft for my liking.

[@inspectorchicken]

2008 or 2008?

[@keivanhamidi]

These baguettes dudes are doing something, damn

[@martijnkosters9024]

Mushroom! Mushroom! :D

[@MegaCommissar]

Badger badger badger badger...

[@vaska00762]

Ancient meme

[@Halarue]

I understood that reference

[@sergiudan117]

You said that there is no point to test corsa-e having the same platform as 208... :( Got my point?

[@bjornnyland]

No

[@seb.]

good point, same plateform can get very different outcomes

[@tomsixsix]

e-Corsa is very similar size to e-208 though. e-2008 is taller, different aero...

[@daveamies5031]

@@tomsixsix @6:51, the bigger DS3 and e2008 have very similar numbers to the e208 (close enough you can say within margin of error), Bjørn actually tells you he thinks it's temperature has impacted the e208's result. based on this Bjørn is right no need to test the e-Corsa or any other vehicle built on this platform, except maybe retest the e-208 on a clear 19º day (if only someone has a direct line to Freyr to arrange that for Bjørn on every vehicle test 🤣)

[@mrjoe12345]

@Bjørn Nyland The cars‘ platforms may be identical but the cars themselves are quite different. On the outside the Corsa looks nothing like the 208; different design -> different aerodynamics -> different consumption, noise, and maybe performance. On the inside the materials are very different in the cars and their instrument clusters differ greatly. While I doubt there are any big differences in the drivetrain software, if there were any, they’d become visible during your in-depth videos. My point is: I would be grateful if you had the time and opportunity to test the Opel Corsa-e. I’m certain many others would enjoy your review too.

[@tyrikubbe]

The «autosteer» has never been intendended to be «autosteer.» Only an advanced lane keeping assistant - never allowing the driver to take both hands off the steering wheel for mor than a few seconds at a time. First released with the DS 7 Crossback in 2017, same functionality now.

[@bjornnyland]

But if the driver has a heart attack and loses the steering wheel, the car shouldn't crash. Tesla, Leaf, e-tron and many other cars will slowly reduce the speed while still steering for you.

[@RoaldHemel35]

Thx Bjørn! Could that early model e208 “suffer” from inefficient/old software?

[@iainmorrison1592]

Good review. Looking forward to what you'll have to say about the Skoda Enyaq. The 2008 and the Enyaq are cars I'm considering when I make the leap to electric.

[@johnstonlee]

enyaq is very expensive which is shame for me

[@renefitz-giboon7733]

Dare I watch after placing an order already? 😂

[@johngraham8792]

Yes of course 😀 Our e-2008 should arrive in about 3 week’s time and I am watching 👍😀

[@renefitz-giboon7733]

@@johngraham8792 Mine is scheduled for delivery in “September” 👍

[@UltimatePwnageNL]

The lawyers say that if the car creates an accident while autonomously steering and pulling over (when the user stopped responding) it's a bigger liability than if it just disengages because then the car wasn't in control. The MORAL thing to do, is to keep following the road, turn on hazard lights, and slow down until stopped. I will never buy a car from a manufacturer who chose the first approach. If the car is designed by lawyers then i dont feel safe in any of their products - because they chose money over safety.

[@BobskiGang]

It has autonomy level 2, which means: "the driver is required to keep their hands on the wheel at all times and must stay alert to road conditions."... Car also mentioned many times quite loudly that the driver should keep hands on the wheel before it switched back to level 1.

[@UltimatePwnageNL]

@@BobskiGang That's in theory, but we live in reality. And in reality, liability and public perception doesn't work that way.

[@BobskiGang]

@@UltimatePwnageNL Level 2 is still a driver assistance system and not autonomous system.. For example VW Passat works in a same way. It turns it off if you don't react on warnings.. This behavior is very common for all cars which has this system.

[@peterzerfass4609]

Just love the "badger, badger, badger"-attack at 4:02 XD

[@Destructor111]

A very welcome blast from the past!

[@CED99]

"Is this real carbon fibre?" No

[@muncopa7466]

Could you please, review Cetroen e C4, I really like it's design.

[@thomaseriksson3182]

Thanks for this!👍 Like this car..but with the normal instrument kluster you get with the entry level version"active". Old school man i am🤣 keep the reviews comming. Save my boring Sunday👍🤗

[@torytronrud2413]

150 isn't very good especially at such a low speed.

[@JustRandomThings]

ABA is another name for father in Urdu language.

[@Muppetkeeper]

Bjorn, great work, I can only imagine that the very very few people who down vote your videos work for Big Oil. You are brilliant.

[@bjornnyland]

They don't work for big oil. People who downvote my videos are just EV haters or dislike the video for some reason.

[@dotnetdevni]

Really wanting to watch this as one car I would save for

[@Stefan-xw8mq]

Very good review, thank you for that. I will definetely wait for purchasing an electric vehicle until it reaches at least 400kms range on highway (and not at a Tesla price). Keep going :-)

[@marcusdion5711]

Thank you for the review! The E-2008 is gonna be my first car so i’m really excited to try it out for the first time👍🏽

[@onlyrgu]

Thank you for the video, In your video, I didn't see any trees moving also when the car is parked so was it not windy at all ??? Do you think this might have effected the test??

[@bjornnyland]

Yes, but I still start and stop at the same point (A-B-A testing).

[@DavidJones-mo9sj]

Mjøsa - Norway's largest lake ! Great scenery

[@djash7161]

I’d watch an EV show before I’d watch Top Gear

[@alasdairdougall7868]

My favourite comment was “I can hear it when it is quiet.” A real Time Bandits moment that is in the class of “Oh, that what an invisible barrier looks like.”

[@standardrangefremont]

Thx Björn 😊 Looking 4ward to the Id3 Tests from you.

[@standardrangefremont]

@Dan Paul 🙂

[@omarbabakarkhail]

3:15 - "look ma no hands". Shoutout to Bjørn for being a G

[@ASTRA20DI16V]

Is it possible to activate automatic translation?

[@bjornnyland]

Yes

[@GautierRouleau]

I can't believe it's less thirsty than my e-208, damn! 😲

[@bjornnyland]

Weather was different.

[@ravinagaraj7003]

Hi Bjorn, since you test so many EVs, you may know the answer to this question - at what speed does aerodynamic drag become dominant? From perspective of data, the Wh/Km should remain fairly constant until the air resistance becomes the dominant factor. So, if you drive at 50 Km/hr and then at 70 Km/hr, do you get similar consumption?

[@Lufthansa787]

Nice car.

[@Werterson]

Nice man, finally!

[@jurepecar9092]

Look up the aviation term "density altitude". It combines all intersting properties of atmosphere so if you want to have equal testing conditions regarding temperature, air pressure etc you should make sure that you do your tests at equal density altitude.

[@sanoj92]

Then we would get a lot fewer tests since he would have to wait.. but interesting concept which i assume is used for wltp maybe?

[@mrjoe12345]

Bjørn, I think there’s an issue with the Google Sheet. On the 90km/h range test the wheel size for the e-208 rear wheels is 235/65-18 in the sheet. It should be 205/45/17 though. Thank you for the awesome in-depth tests!

[@bjornnyland]

Thanks, it's fixed now.

[@mrjoe12345]

Thanks for the fix. Just saw it and realized the rear wheel size on the 90km/h test of the DS 3 e-tense seems to be off too.

[@mrjoe12345]

Could you check 90km/h rear wheels for MG ZS EV too. Seems like the the rows must’ve gotten messed up somehow. (don’t mean to be nitpicking; always enjoy your videos and I’m grateful for all the work you put into them) edit: I’m talking about the summer test

[@waraa.7935]

Hope you do review of Nissan Kicks in Thailand (ภาษาอังกฤษหรือไทยก็ได้ครับ)

[@lingondraken]

That is a fossil car...

[@waraa.7935]

@@lingondraken It's not totally ICE , neither pure EV. It's another kind of hybrid which run solely by motor. www.nissan-global.com/EN/TECHNOLOGY/OVERVIEW/e_power.html

[@DeerKoden]

*carbon fiber intensifies by rubbing*

[@102fuwn]

Hoping for a 1000 km challenge on this one : D I ordrered this car here in Norway and should recive it within 2 weeks.

[@bjornnyland]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIHZd2NpjZqLm5Y

[@7779-w9o]

Please suggest the application to check the remaining battery

[@asambi69]

I love this car, I hope its a good car.

[@gamekonsoller]

I have had this car for almost 3 months now, and i love it! i just whish i had a bit more then 200km range on high speed driving.

[@LanceAugusto]

Where abouts do you live? Also, how fast do you typically drive long range? Im thinking of purchasing and se mixed range reviews.

[@gamekonsoller]

@@LanceAugusto live in Norway and during the summer 110km/h when driving 250km it goes ok. now in winter i have range abt 160 -180km range. iam selling the car next year to buy something like Kia e niro with 450km range on summer and around 300 on winter

[@LanceAugusto]

@@gamekonsoller Thanks. This is good to know. I live in Portugal where the winters are very mild. But I do get a bit worried about the range. Ive also been looking at those two. thanks for the reply. cheers!

[@kevinbosma4047]

@@LanceAugusto hi i dont know what your budget is but unless you like this car from the looks you should buy it. the range isnt that far. yeah its better to go for a kia e niro or maybe a tesla model 3? y hablo un poco español lol:)

[@babyshark4673]

@@kevinbosma4047 gap hij komt uit Portugal…. Ik kan je verklappen dat ze daar niet per se spaans spreken.

[@dreKion]

Not buy a e2008, I have this model and I have electric faults with only 1750km More info (in Spanish): www.club2008.com/threads/fallo-e2008.4064/

[@_kj2]

Corsa-e does the same, if you don't hold the steering wheel. Big fail by PSA..

[@andrealub77]

True that has the same performance but interiors are different, infotainment too (controls), maybe suspensions. So it worth a review at least.

[@andrealub77]

Oh.. and corsa-e cost less and it is sold more, in Italy at least, aug 2020.

[@TheFPSPower]

@@WhitewalkerII This is about if you accidentally fall asleep while auto-steer is engaged, other cars try to keep driving but slowly lower speed and turn on hazards while intermittently braking hard to wake you up. What Peugeot did was just disable it and let you go into a ditch and that's retarded.

[@TheFPSPower]

@@WhitewalkerII You don't value your life much, do you? If there are better ways to do things that could save lives, why should they settle for mediocrity? Makes no sense to me why you want to defend that position so hard.

[@unlock-er]

Ohhhh Shiiiieeeetttttt! Finalliieeeeeee!

[@F0rhinka]

Been waiting for this one. Great video once again Bjørn.

[@SalynnaNavirera]

Bjørn , is it true that in Norway it's better to use lann to buy cars, because you will pay less tax if u have to pay back a lann?

[@fredericmancosu1682]

ABBA, Always Be Back Again

[@rustyt115]

Hi

[@MrFearless84]

It looks kind a cheap to me. I have a Hyundai Ioniq 28kwh and I have almost the same range with 60% of Peugeot battery.

[@Nomanspie]

It's 15.0 kwh per 100km Not 150

[@xondeez757]

it looks cheap plasticy for some reason, is the quality good on this car?

[@thosoz3431]

Nice city car, understandably popular in Europe. Not so good for the weekend here in Australia.

[@colinvos7304]

What car should i suggest to my parents, they want a new car. My mom says she just wants the Peugeot 208 GTI. But my dad wants the E-Tron. And they asked me what they should really get

[@PaulMansfield]

An MG ZS EV and, with the money saved, a Taycan

[@kehletten]

Why did you have to do that horrible thing to the door side in the cabin? 😮🤷🏼‍♂️ 😁 nice review though!! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@bjornnyland]

Because I can?

[@xavierblesa8526]

Bjørn, do you know where the OBDII port is?

[@DogsBAwesome]

I recognise lots of that inside in my corsa-e

[@brikka69]

why 90 km/h? If the street is 130 km/h? This is the problem for elttric car

[@bjornnyland]

Watch the whole video. I did 120 km/h also. This is the problem for new viewers in my channel ;)

[@williamarmstrong7199]

Bouncing caused by higher tyre pressure? That would also account for better economy.

[@bjornnyland]

No, the suspension is doing it.

[@jasondavis545]

Cool like this CUV. Wondering how it will compare to the Skoda Enyak??

[@bjornnyland]

*Enyaq

[@thierrysf]

Bjorn is a carbon fiber fetichist :-)

[@seb.]

Keep the kids away 1:58 from carbon fibers

[@rcplanefun314]

Hvilken av de franske bilene syns du er best. Ser peugeot og citroen og ds3 har nesten lik rekkevidde. Hvem av de går lengst og hvem er mest komfortabel å kjøre og støy

[@buddy1155]

no banana boxes :(

[@bjornnyland]

Don't forget to subscribe.

[@MrTeq333]

tow hitch?

[@johngraham8792]

No

[@sagferi]

Bjørn, are these speeds confirmed by a GPS as well? Is the built in speedometer not cheating?

[@bjornnyland]

Yes, I show this in many videos.

[@sagferi]

@@bjornnyland Thanks Bjørn ;)

[@bulentyakar6165]

Does this vehicle have a heat pump?

[@bjornnyland]

Standard

[@markgilder9990]

Steering wheel is on the wrong side😂😂

[@stickygeiden]

Talk for you

[@eliasyehaug6214]

Hei. Hvordan slår du på autosteer så du får opp det grønne rattet?

[@BokiXI]

does it have a heat pump?

[@bjornnyland]

Standard

[@CSAFMedia]

I like it and would buy it over a Model Y, but Peugeot would need to raise the battery pack to 80 kwh usable to be practical in the US market.

[@juanbrz8187]

Hello Bjorn, when are you testing the new VW ID4 ???

[@YusukeShirogane]

Dont forget the ID.3

[@juanbrz8187]

@@YusukeShirogane non, is Not an options here in America... ;)

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

Does it have a tow hitch?

[@johngraham8792]

No

[@gabrielbrolly457]

Thanks for the vids Bjorn, just ordered my e2008GT and very much looking forward to owning my first ev. Keep up the great work brother. Should have my GT by March.

[@gabrielbrolly457]

@@ermalbaj winter range is poor, maybe 220 km absolute max and that's not motorway driving either. Summer range is 300+ on dry roads and temps above 15°C. I'm happy with it but put deposit on Mk2 MG ZS EV with 70 kwh battery and towing capacity plus V2L.

[@PrimiusLovin]

It's a pity that despite the e-208 and e-2008 are being praised for their designs, it's still PSA's EV beta test platform and it obviously lacks some refinement in certain aspects. Don't know how much extra room the platform has for improvement though... Hopefully, they'll be able to offer slightly better battery capacity and performance. Oh, and a bigger touch screen with bigger buttons too...

[@rezz3246]

Good

[@colinmaynard2879]

Think you have to deduct 100kg from the weight...that looks like a lot of “stuff” you’re carrying!😉

[@bjornnyland]

Nope

[@theodavis9778]

Hmmmm .....

[@bjornnyland]

Hmm....

[@kipdennis3796]

Nose Pocking infront not good

[@magnusolsson3387]

I'm a little disappointed with the European car makers. You get more "bang" for the buck with the Korean cars. They are better spect for the same price. I may be wrong and it is just a feeling that I have. Would be nice to see a spec comparison.

[@mrjoe12345]

I agree with Daniel on this one, the 64kWh Korean cars are quite pricey indeed. If it’s all about bang for your buck for you, consider the ZS EV, it is really good value for money. You could also take into account the Corsa-e which is apparently a bit cheaper than the e-208.

[@magnusolsson3387]

Currently, Peugeot has a promo price. A fully spect 2008 in Sweden costs around 561 000 sek without promo. A fully spect Kona cost about 471 000 sek. I think nearly a +100 000 sek is not justified by the marginally larger 2008. The MG ZS EV is not available in Sweden from what I know. I may be wrong. However, the car is not in the same ballpark as Hyundai or Kona when it comes to "bling". It is a great car for the money from what I have seen.

[@magnusolsson3387]

@@danielstefanovic2604 I agree that the Kona is smaller. I have driven it. But you really have to compare the non-promo price to be fair.

[@shanont]

@@danielstefanovic2604 I bought a "max speced" demo used e-2008 gt for 360.000 NOK(around 36,000 euro) including unused wintertires in Norway. guess its sucks to be living in sweden.8) E-2008 cost around 300-390,000 nok depending on spec. with the Kona is around 340ish I think, with the E-niro being more like 380-420,000 depending on spec. I think tho for a max spec eniro at 420,000kr , your better off just paying a tiny bite more and getting a model 3 or polestar. which both starts around 450ish

[@fsb6406]

More expensive than Leaf 40 KWh, worse "auto pilot system" than Leaf, almost the same range (9% more for the Peugeot with 25 % bigger battery pack 50kwh e-2008 vs Leaf 40 kwh (332km e-2008 vs 305 km Leaf 40 Kwh regarding NAF Test Summer 2020 in Norway) and less banana boxes 20 boxes e-2008 vs 21 boxes Leaf. Did not Peugeot learn anything else during these 10 years ? I love the design of the new EVs from Peugeot but...Yes, I know the e-2008 has CCS port and liquid cooled battery but for 90% of users in Europe that is not a problem (chademo everywhere) since these cars with "small -ish" battery packs are mainly used in urban areas with a few long distance trips per year... No wonder why Leaf is still a no brainer for many of us (in Norway).

[@johntroost1084]

half of the Chademo plugs are already removed here in the Netherlands. so that IS a problem if you use an old style connector.

[@jeromelondon3609]

The Leaf is pretty ugly!!! I’d take the e2008 anytime over the Nissan...

[@shanont]

I think you will find a harder time finding chademo chargers in future. Even nissan is changing. So you will probably have a much harder time selling a leaf with chademo in about 3-5 years time. Also liquid cooled battery is a must in 2020 I think. They cost pretty much the same new (e2008 vs leaf ) so Im not sure what the leaf got that the e2008 doesnt.

[@gil7555]

En FRANÇAIS, s' il vous plaît !.

[@Turbo999be]

1:08 The white spot on the roof is not a good sign... it means water infiltration.

[@bjornnyland]

It's reflection from the dashboard or somewhere. No white spot there. Easy to see that it's reflection because at 1:09, my hand is blocking the reflection and the "white spot" disappears.

[@dr2okevin]

I wouldn't call 120km/h as high speed, for me that is slow speed. My normal travel speed on the Autobahn is 160-180 km/h. For me an good EV needs at least 200km of usable range at 180km/h. Otherwise it is only a city car.

[@bjornnyland]

Alles gut!

[@bjephcott1]

Germany is the only country in the developed world where a driver could say that.

[@dr2okevin]

@@bjephcott1 Maybe, but that is the reality for me. Range at higher speed is more important for me than lifetime of the battery. I don't drive that often, but when than fast. Model 3LR would fit for me, but still a bit expensive. I think time will fix that.

[@horstlederhosen1826]

Even ICE cars consume horrible amounts of fuel at 180km/h. Not only would dropping autobahn speeds make ICE cars burn less co2 to the air, it would also make trains and EVs more competitive. Germany has declared "climate emergency" but is certainly not acting like it was real emergency.

[@CaroAbebe]

Well, Germany is probably the only country with speeds above 120/130 km/h on the motorway. So, to the rest of the world 120 km/h IS a reasonably high “autobahn” speed.