PewDiePie is right. Vegans are bad for veganism. (Sorsha, vegan youtubers & bad vegan advocacy)

[@camilat8268]

to me it's so funny how ppl like sorsha and freelee act like they've never eaten meat or dairy and judge everyone else for not being vegan or going vegan when I'm sure they took their time transitioning too

[@camilat8268]

truu

[@happypillcompilations9497]

freelee actually recognises that lots of people have been brain washed by the meat industry therefore its not their fault however from her new videos you can tell she only judges those who don't want to change after knowing what animals go through

[@camilat8268]

+Jan S I've seen a bunch of her videos and it never felt that way to me but ok

[@camilat8268]

+Jan S not enough hahahhaah

[@trinity7628]

Right! I mean, you drink milk as soon as you're born!

[@daysbyemma]

I like you girl but I am not a vegan...but much respect

[@solittle7358]

Comments like this make me laugh. Seriously what's the point of this channel? Unnatural vegan doesn't want people to go vegan. She wants people to like her. Her approach is rather ineffective.

[@daysbyemma]

so little No, there's something called freedom of expression. Let her say what she wants, it's her choice. She's trying to help the vegans like her , not to get people to like her. ***** No dude, she's not trying to convert anyone. She's actually saying that the way vegans are shoving their thoughts is wrong. When someone is interested will do the research themselves. I, myself respect her choice.

[@daysbyemma]

***** Sorsha is a different story...lol

[@elizabethshaw734]

Fashion Nation thing is to a non rabbit vegan you are fine and it is not my job to tell you what to eat and if you are a nice person and wanted to be friends we could be friends you can eat what you eat and I can eat what I eat. it's food not rocket science. I have been bullied by a bunch of vegans and could never do that to anybody else over what they ate so shity and silly!!

[@lowfatricemilk1860]

+Clyde Cash youre right, it's silly to expect every vegan to become a full time militant activist. there's nothing wrong with working a regular job, living vegan and sharing the message with only friends and family. not everyone is mentally equipped to deal with spending all their time trying to get strangers to make radical lifestyle changes, tackling sensitive issues and engaging in debates and arguments that are almost always fairly taxing.

[@DangerousSnake123]

You are the only nice vegan on youtube i have seen.

[@HeavymetalHylian]

raw alignment is a pretty nice gal too

[@raleighvar]

And Mango Island Mamma! She and her family are beautifully positive people.

[@ertuncdelikaya8237]

Watch Mommy Tang and Bite Size Vegan

[@dharad]

But there are so many! Look for the smaller channels, they usually have the least controversial content.

[@DangerousSnake123]

+Dhara yer.. ive only been looking at the well known big vegan channels who are very.. extreme.. like vegan gains.. he is just insane.

[@Clisare]

Thank you for your level-headed approach! Vegans like Sorcha and Freelee put me off veganism for years. However, Jenna Marbles showed veganism in a really positive light (in my opinion) in her vlogs. She made it seem easy and like something I really wanted to do. I tried it, and while this time it didn't stick, I am hoping to one day succeed in staying vegan. I feel it's a really positive thing to do, but I really don't like Sorcha and Freelee's approach as it's really negative.

[@zimikkachui5766]

Yoh mate.

[@ChaozDealer]

that banana girl is shady as fuck

[@peachykeen9787]

ikr

[@intellektualblackman5727]

she's just Australia's version of trailer trash. They don't gibafuk wut cums out der mouth!

[@peachykeen9787]

***** yes

[@meister3400]

You Madam, have my respect for your level-head and thoughtful mind good day to you!

[@racegipson2367]

Bro army here... Not a vegan but I really enjoyed this video. Gonna try that no meat Monday thing. Thank you from all us meat-eaters out there for you'r well thought out video. When it comes down to it most of us are aware that Sosha is doing this to piggy back on Pewdiepie's views. She thought that by stirring the pot she could have more people see it. Its sad that her message came across so negative for vegans.

[@catorui]

how does bts have anything to do with this

[@lazyadobo5125]

@@catorui it doesn't. Bro army isn't what you think it is.

[@catorui]

Adobogains oof i didn’t see the ‘bro’ sorry for the mistake

[@chrismon9381]

I'm from the future, we are no longer the Bro army for we are the *9 YEAR OLD ARMY!!!*

[@beandip2785]

@@chrismon9381 I'm from the FUTURE future, we are no longer the bro army we are the 100mill club

[@DarkAmenandWhiteAmen]

you know I'm from pewdiepie and I was on a spree on flaming stupid raging vegans who were supporting the " core message " girl. but stumbling upon your video was salvation, your face and voice is easy to swallow and get used to. 2.- you're smart and that's amazing when you make analysis regarding strong subjects such as veganism and how to approach non-v therefore. you earnt your self a like, a submit and a follower that will watch your videos because i KNOW you have an intellectual and analytic approach. good job! and now. I'm back to flaming sorshas videos lmao.

[@DarkAmenandWhiteAmen]

ps: who knows I might try making some diet changes. as for instance.. I'd like to eat salad more often xd

[@DarkAmenandWhiteAmen]

pss: you are from now on big mama vegan in My eyes! all hail big mama !

[@user-rm3iy4ye2l]

Good for you for writing a positive message :) I've seen a lot of PewDiePie fans who are writing really hateful things to other vegans (even those who are supporting him). It's sad because true bros wouldn't harass or cyber-bully someone else because that is not what Felix supports or advocates for. He wouldn't be happy with that. There are plenty of us rational and kind vegans out there :) Not all of us are like Sorsha!!

[@NekoShiiro93]

+Haji CottonButt don't get stuck on salads bro, I'm a vegan and I hate salad, I mean, if you like it go for it but there's so many yummy vegan food I had absolutely no idea about :3 have fun exploring

[@DarkAmenandWhiteAmen]

+Neko Shiiro even more than just salad? Gasp. do tell!!

[@raulcarrillo9861]

I'm a meat eater and man you gained my respect, people like you are who should promote the vegan movement/philosophy. People like vegan gains and sorcha are hurting what you guys believe and if more people like you existed more meat eaters would even think about going vegan. Man I've never been more proud of the other side than you and people like you.

[@Steinar447]

Raul Carrillo what he said

[@kathvodkath]

You just gave me hope for vegans again.

[@whoislily]

this brash and direct (and rude) form of activism is surely doing more harm than good- if we annoy and insult omnis through slander or socially sensitive messages they are less likely to go vegan and subsequently the animals suffer!

[@lazydaisyfelines]

I think the fact that most of these angry vegan KZbinrs are causing drama within the community to make more money isn't helping, either. They're causing drama for selfish monetary reasons, not for the sake of animals.

[@veganactive3504]

Ya'll don't know the mechanics of YT. Believe me - if they could simply state facts and get people to stop being animal abusers, they would. But that isn't how you get people to watch your shit. If you want a bunch of pewdiepie fans to see your vid, you gotta trash pewdiepie. Don't like it either, but that is YT for you. That said, Sorsha's vid WAS pure garbage (uninformative).

[@lazydaisyfelines]

I don't believe that just because KZbinrs are getting views that people are actually listening to or buying their message about veganism. And those vidbloggers are getting paid for those views, so I don't buy that they "have" to do it for the sake of veganism. The actual ratio of people who might try it could be much less than from those bloggers who aren't spewing hate about everyone, even if they do have more views.

[@veganactive3504]

Roswenthe Well yeah, obviously there is no direct conversion between view and vegan. Just saying, that is the ONLY form of vegan activism that reaches the crowds that don't actively search for vegan related content. And I'll take it, for those people are far more numerous than those who are already interested. Gains for example reaches the meattarded crowds of bodybuilding quite effectively and his message is always on point. The drawback is that he has to trash their idol to get their attention. And if you've ever tried talking to someone IRL with various approaches, you'll know the feedback is largely unaffected by approach, so there is no critisism to be made against the "aggressive/truthful/straight to the point" approach compared to being a passivist. As for the money - everyone needs it, even youtubers. They are getting payed at approx. 0.2% (2€ per 1000 views). If it seems like a dream thing to you, go ahead and earn the cash here. You'll learn its harder then it looks.

[@vega-nik]

WORD!!!! YOU THE BEST MAN! even if the conversion rate is about 1% thats still hundreds or thousands of animals saved.

[@theshannankay]

I'm not gonna lie, I went vegan initially over a year ago because of freelee , but her diet plan caused me to gain so much weight. I was so depressed. It took me over 6 months to lose the weight on her program and I started eating animal products (not meat) again cause I thought veganism was impossible. Her words are so demanding and I didn't do enough research into what is actually true about the body and just listened to freelee. I looked more into veganism this time around but this time with a different approach. I looked for something that was sustainable and cheap for me as a college student. People like you, mommytang, Briannajackfruitson, fullyrawkristina, channon rose, tana mongeau, and others who had a happy look on veganism and said eat things you like, are nutritious, simple, and be happy were the ones that helped me to stay vegan this time around. I have been vegan for just 3.5 months and literally so different from the first time around. I am happy and satisfied. Also my family members understand it now because before they couldn't understand why I was on a "healthy lifestyle" but gained weight and was tired all the time. I am full of energy and walking proof that veganism is the best thing every and again I am just 3.5 months in. My acne is better. My digestive issues are gone. Also, weirdly enough my eyesight has gotten better based on my optometry visit a week ago. My waist is back to my high school size. Greatest lifestyle ever. Happy activism is the best kind. It allows people to make their own decisions and research what will work for them.

[@fgraham8712]

I totally agree with you. When I started looking into veganism I also found freelee and her older videos were but when I started to get into the ones where she was calling out other people and just passing horrible judgement that I am against especially vegans who didn't start off vegans from childhood and also have fake boobs but still pass judgement I have a problem with. The I saw the video where she said that people who eat meat should be killed or be forced to vegan, sounded like a dictator to me. Then almost every vegan I watched had this view point so I ran the other direction because I don't want to be apart of something like that or maybe turn into someone like that. That's when I found fullyrawkristina(whom freelee and Drider don't like and practically say they "made her") ,thevegancheetah, getupsetgirls,the bluewren, and joevegan. It was so refreshing to see and hear normal people.

[@theshannankay]

Exactly! I love vegancheetah (RIP to his channel) and the getupsetgirls too. Veganism is totally not what a lot of Ytbers portray it as. I relate more to the "normal people."

[@theshannankay]

Thanks so much:)

[@MaraEllis]

You should also check out Lauren Toyota and Hotforfood. Perfect vegan advice and veganism for the average person.

[@harrietwilliams1617]

+Mara Ellis 100% yes for Lauren Toyota and hot for food

[@xxexexex]

I LOVE YOUR HAIR

[@andrewclancy2511]

deep thoughts

[@dulcenflores]

+Andrew Clancy it's a compliment. People can give compliments. That might make her feel good. Leave it be.😜😉

[@andrewclancy2511]

Ms. Private Kitty Ⓥ I like your inanity.

[@dulcenflores]

+Andrew Clancy I don't like your arrogance and judgements. It's also pretty funny how you like your own comments each time you post. You must be a very lonely, unhappy person. Sorry.😭

[@ilolaura]

Same

[@Pilkkukatti]

Did I just found vegan youtuber who is not a bully and tells the facts as they are? Oh my god you are awesome! Happy I found you!

[@AbdulMujeebOyegunle]

you, you see I like you. 1. you ain't sorsha 2. you ain't sorsha 3. you again ain't sorsha you different, you cool.

[@taylorpenman9868]

You are the ONLY vegan youtuber that I can stand to watch. You are the bees knees, girl.

[@purrminator123]

If you like UV, you might like the channel a privileged vegan :)

[@MicahRion]

I'd also recomend RegFlowers! He's really wonderful.

[@Amateur_Pianist_472]

+Purrminator one major difference I see between those two is that UV doesn't want to make it look like veganism is only for the privileged few. She said so in the $20 a day video. But a privileged vegan pushes the idea that veganism is for the privileged. She puts it like "veganism isn't only for the privileged, but we have to look at ourselves and see how privileged we are, simply having a grocery store and accessing beans, rice, and potatoes when you're poor means you're still a white privileged vegan because you can access rice... Check your privilege!" This gives people of colour watching the idea that they're a victim and too under privileged to be a vegan. Furthers the stereotype that veganism is a white thing (not taking into account that white people make up the vast majority of the population so any group can coincidentally be mostly white and maybe most people who care about animals happen to be white but it has no causal link). She swallows SJW bullshit.

[@glimeertwin2]

Check out Ask yourself

[@Dankapotamus918]

Mic. The vegan is light years better cause he doesn't interject stupid opinions it's all facts and how it's relatable to the everyday person. Not some pathetic attempt at being a philosophy teacher.

[@ashley-nt8ub]

Your hair looks so cute straight like that :) also, don't worry about making your videos short. I'm pretty sure most of your subs will watch no matter the length. I will at least. I'm glad you addressed sorsha, she's someone that drives me fuckin nuts. So obnoxious

[@MicahRion]

I also really like the details and slower-paced style of UV videos. Most other videos are made to be grabby and quick for our short attention spans. So for me it's a good challenge to focus on a video for 10+ minutes.

[@griddlegreen]

You are probably the most calmest vegan I ever seen on youtube. Thank you for that.

[@mariosimpostor731]

SHUT UP

[@griddlegreen]

@@mariosimpostor731 no u

[@ta_pritchard]

Hey, vegans, how about you try, once a month, invite a meet eater to dinner day? Showcase delicious vegan recipes, and show its not the case that you have to suffer to end suffering.I'm a meat eater, and I can tell you that I would be far more responsive to an invite than an order, or being encouraged rather than shamed.I have no intention of becoming vegan, or even vegetarian, but I'm always open to discovering other peoples way of thinking and living.the moment ALL vegans realise that just because a person eats meat, just like people have for millennia, that doesn't mean we are bad people, just like not all vegans are.........well, Sorsha.

[@YourMajesty143]

I've had potlucks at work and I sometimes bring vegan food for meat-eaters at family dinners. They all still eat meat. I've even gotten them to sit down to watch documentaries & them vowing to change, only to see them buy KFC the next week. Ppl nowadays have a short attention span. Logic and a fun meal aren't as impressionable as tough love. Sometimes we're so conditioned to behave as we do, that we need to be shaken to our very core, and consistently so to undo years of cultural inculcation. So I embrace all forms of activism, even the harsh kind bc the truth is as much as I used to despise Freelee, I can now respect her impact. Gary Yourofsky also left a bad taste in my mouth, but he's the reason Israel has the highest population of vegans. It took me time to finally admit, but we need ALL forms of activism. One is not superior to another bc every individual is different in what message they're most likely to respond to. Different strokes for different folks.

[@pikira2246]

YourMajesty143 "I've had potlucks at work and I sometimes bring vegan food for meat-eaters at family dinners. They all still eat meat" What did you expect? If you brung in vegan food, are they suppose to automatically assume that they only have to eat it? "I've even gotten them to sit down to watch documentaries & them vowing to change, only to see them buy KFC the next week" This indicates that they're not willing to change which means that if they were shown a stereotype vegan, they would probably hate veganism and still not change. It's better to let them eat meat rather than have them eat meat even more and hate veganism at the same time. "Sometimes we're so conditioned to behave as we do, that we need to be shaken to our very core, and consistently so to undo years of cultural inculcation" And look at what happened? Being shaken to our very core has turned thousands of meat eaters against vegans. "we need ALL forms of activism" No we don't, it's not necessary to yell at a meat eater and it would only screw up the situation even more. Being kind to a meat eater is much more superior than others (besides telling them facts of course, those are equal).

[@YourMajesty143]

ThePixelSharkGamer2000 You're assuming I push my Veganism on anyone. I bring vegan food to potlucks so that I have something to eat, and I have enough to share bc that's what a potluck is about. I was simply pointing out that just giving food isn't enough, ppl need context. Tough love does not mean being an asshole. Being passionate does not mean being an asshole. You can be assertive without being aggressive. And sometimes it helps to call ppl out on their bullshit when you know they're just making excuses. I remember watching a trailer for a documentary & my mom was intrigued so she had me put a few of them on. Also a co-worker asked for videos to help reverse her diabetes. My best friend also was curious & asked to look into it. I was the one propositioned, not the other way around. And despite showing them these things & them admitting that they needed to change, they still reverted to old habits. That's how strong cognitive dissonance is & how hard it is to break a history of inculcated beliefs & habits. Some ppl like the in-your-face, tell-it-like-it-is manner. Just look at who ppl voted for president! Some ppl like someone who's not afraid to just tell the truth, even if it hurts. And even when it's not the truth apparently, bc tbh Trump is really just admired bc ppl like a character that appears authentic & not "fake nice". Now I'm too passive-aggressive to ever be mean or pushy, but sometimes I wish I did have the guts to call ppl out on their excuses. Ppl want to hear that their bad habits are validated, bc then they don't have to change. Compare the amount of ppl who became vegan as a result of Freelee and Gary Yourofsky vs ppl like UV. I never liked Freelee or Gary's style bc it conflicts with my comfort zone, however I'm honest enough with myself to at least concede that their strategy absolutely works. We don't like to admit that bc it means we give permission for ppl to be assholes, but I think to myself "the animals won't care how we get it done, so long as it gets results & saves their lives". While I can appreciate you thinking the reason for my loved ones not changing is bc they're around "Vegan assholes", I hate to burst your bubble but I'm the only vegan they know. And I'm known as the sweetest, most patient girl (I have to be, I work with the elderly). The problem is I'm an enabler, I can admit that. I suck at making ppl feel bad for their behavior. But we SHOULD feel bad, bc it's not ok. Killing will in no way ever be considered ok while full well knowing that these animals experience fear and make efforts to escape on their way to the slaughterhouse. You can see them, hear them, and even sense their trepidation. Yet despite knowing this, I still can't bring myself to do more for them bc I'm scared of the stigma. I feel so foolish typing that out. I wonder if slavery abolitionists and feminists fighting for women's rights worried about stigma when they fought for their cause. We can shoot the messenger all day, it will never invalidate the message. Being an activist is about raising your voice above the noise of the opposition, and speaking on behalf of those who are voiceless & powerless. It's easy to think that Vegans are extremists, but they're only reacting to the extreme nature of the animal genocide. It becomes less hostile when you look at the hostility of its relative counterpart. Talking smack should never be admonished bc it pales in comparison to the wailing and crying of the victims. If Vegans shout or yell, then I have to remind myself that they're justified in doing so. Protests have always been loud & angry, while also peaceful & passive. Both methods have worked in our history of human progress. Veganism is no exclusion.

[@pikira2246]

YourMajesty143 Note: I'm sorry if I myself am being an asshole. I'm working on it. If you see a sentence where I'm rude, I apologize and I didn't mean it. "I was simply pointing out that just giving food isn't enough, ppl need context" I can guarantee you that doing that is a much more effective way than yelling at someone in the face. "And sometimes it helps to call ppl out on their bullshit when you know they're just making excuses" Yeah but vegans don't have insult them in the process or demand that they go vegan or any other bullshit. If you're going to call someone out, don't explode on them while doing so. "And despite showing them these things & them admitting that they needed to change, they still reverted to old habits. That's how strong cognitive dissonance is & how hard it is to break a history of inculcated beliefs & habits." If facts didn't make them vegan then what makes you think yelling in their face will. If facts fail to make someone change than just stop because yelling at them will only piss them off. If they don't want to go vegan, then they're not going to go vegan. "Some ppl like the in-your-face, tell-it-like-it-is manner" I can guarantee that nobody likes it when they're yelled at, if I were to yell at a vegan that they're stupid for driving a car because it causes Global Warming then they're sure as hell going to yell at me back instead saying "Oh, thank you for helping me realize my mistake by rudely getting into my face". "Just look at who ppl voted for president! Some ppl like someone who's not afraid to just tell the truth, even if it hurts. And even when it's not the truth apparently, bc tbh Trump is really just admired bc ppl like a character that appears authentic & not 'fake nice'. " Most of trump's voters are dumbasses who likes seeing Trump insult people. Besides, Trump wasn't insulting them which was another reason why they accepted his speeches. Not only that, a lot of people chose trump because they dislike Hillary and rather choose him over her. I can name numerous reasons why Trump became president and how it's nothing like veganism but I believe you get the idea. "Now I'm too passive-aggressive to ever be mean or pushy, but sometimes I wish I did have the guts to call ppl out on their excuses" Keep that, you'll have a higher chance of turning meat eaters into vegans if you're not being an asshole. Trust me. "Ppl want to hear that their bad habits are validated, bc then they don't have to change" No, people don't want to change because a group of Extremist is yelling at them and telling that they're stupid and shit. "Compare the amount of ppl who became vegan as a result of Freelee and Gary Yourofsky vs ppl like UV." Compare the amount of meat eaters that started hating Veganism as a result of Freelee and Gary Yourofsky vs ppl like UV. Also, the reason people became vegan weren't because Gary yelled at them, but because he gave facts about the industry. Not only that, UV isn't as well known as Gary. If UV gave more facts and is much more well know then you would see a big difference in the vegan count. "I hate to burst your bubble but I'm the only vegan they know. And I'm known as the sweetest, most patient girl" The fact that you wished to call people out on their excuses makes me think otherwise if you're that patient but I'll believe you. "The problem is I'm an enabler, I can admit that. I suck at making ppl feel bad for their behavior" Then you have a higher chance of making people go vegan. "But we SHOULD feel bad, bc it's not ok. Killing will in no way ever be considered ok while full well knowing that these animals experience fear and make efforts to escape on their way to the slaughterhouse. You can see them, hear them, and even sense their trepidation'" The problem is that meat eaters don't care. Why? Because a bunch of extremist are yelling at them. The reason meat eaters don't care about animals are because of vegans. You see, when you yell at a meat eater, they're going to care about animals less and less. Say you have a child who wants to help animals and would do anything to save one little baby mouse. Put that child in a room with a vegan and uh oh, that child wants to slaughter a cow. Vegans are making meat eaters hate animals rather than feel compassion for them when you yell at them. Yelling at a meat eater would only worsen the situation." I wonder if slavery abolitionists and feminists fighting for women's rights worried about stigma when they fought for their cause" If Abolitionist yell at slave owners than they're making the same mistake as vegans as they would only piss them off. Also, feminism is stupid (mostly because woman already have equal rights [I really don't want to get into context]). "Being an activist is about raising your voice above the noise of the opposition, and speaking on behalf of those who are voiceless & powerless" Well activism is killing animals considering it pisses meat eaters off and influences them to eat more meat ssooo yeah. I think inviting a meat eater is much more effective. "It's easy to think that Vegans are extremists" Because they are extremist, they would yell at anyone who disagrees with them and call them dumbasses and inferior (even other vegans). "Talking smack should never be admonished bc it pales in comparison to the wailing and crying of the victims" The problem is that meat eaters don't care about animals and talking smack will only screw up the message that vegans are trying to show. Unless you show compassion to a meat eater, meat eaters aren't going to show compassion to animals. "If Vegans shout or yell, then I have to remind myself that they're justified in doing so" So they're justified to piss whoever they want off which makes people eat more meat? "Protests have always been loud & angry, while also peaceful & passive. Both methods have worked in our history of human progress. Veganism is no exclusion." Veganism IS an exclusion. Just because something worked in the past doesn't mean it's going to work now. So this is why I think that vegans shouldn't yell at meat eaters. To clear things up, a meat eater doesn't like it when they're insulted like ny other person. When a vegan yells at them, they get upset and start ignoring the message and start think illogically. After that, they would start eating meat but not because of satisfaction, but because of spite and anger. But when UV started to come along, meat eaters started to think about going vegan as she was so kind. If you're kind to a meat eater than they will listen to you. You have to gain a meat eater's trust. The most effective way I've seen to gain their trust was to defned them from another vegan (trust me, it always works). After that, you could say anything about veganism and they'll trust. Like literally, if you say "veganism is stupid" and the other vegan who yelled at them gave a list of reasons why you should go vegan, you would have a higher chance of making a meat eater go vegan and I'm not even joking. You would literally have a higher chance. What do you think?

[@fronini1027]

I'm a "meat eater" too, but I can't resist when it comes to vegan food. I found it delicious! I'm not going to be vegan though, I just love meat so much lol. But sometimes is ok to eat different (but healthy) things.

[@CadisEtramaDiRaizelHexion]

Wow I think you are the only youtuber-vegan that has common sense

[@lunarequine7734]

Her and RaleighLink14

[@aaronarmstrong1642]

Then you probs haven’t seen many youtube vegans.

[@oatymilkshake]

Check out "Those vegan guys" really helped me take the leap, and they're not condescending assholes.

[@Halezyeah]

You're the only vegan youtuber/activist i follow anymore. Majority of others i use to follow are like the slander types you described in the video. Thank you for your videos! xx

[@naomit8692]

There are definitely other normal vegan youtubers out there, I enjoy watching Sweet potato soul and Cooking with plants :)

[@louisegillam]

Me too. It's so sad, why can't people keep themselves to themselves. Giving the rest of us a bad name :(

[@oliviashoucair5684]

You'd love Lauren Toyota! She has a personal channel and another one called hot for food.

[@sahayeda5220]

same. kalel, freelee, I hate them all now except for this channel.

[@Juice84]

Freelee is so sexy

[@Kat-mh5kj]

This is the first time I listen to your videos.I found you through Eisel Mazard,I think is his name. When I saw his video, how he seems to hate you I though you we're an evil witch or something like that.My surprise when I listen to the calmed way how you explain am provide sources to your points. I can just conclude this man has a personal grudge and it blinds him from making unbiased analysis. Subscribed to your channel and wish you the best in your pregnancy.

[@technya]

Same here. I unsubscribed to him after his latest video.

[@GrailSidhe]

Yes it became clear to me also that he has a real big grudge on her and there's just so much baggage he's carrying around, basically, and throwing it around under different labels that it's become off-putting.

[@nomadtom2420]

+Alcyone Rising I said as much on his channel and he deleted my comment.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Eisel is a fake intellectual who is scathingly envious of Unnatural Vegan. Unlike a true intellectual, he is incapable of debating people without freaking out and resorting to personal insults (like saying she is "beyond contempt", a direct quote). He has also vastly misrepresented his self-proclaimed linguistic prowess, and when someone offers constructive criticism, he responds with childish insults despite the fact that a man of his many, many years ought to know better by now. We all make mistakes; but true intellectuals learn and move on; they don't try to "kill the messenger".

[@hpmoody]

I lost respect for him after what he did to VegAnn.

[@ThisGuyEdits]

looks to me that she is clearly a "reply girl" trying to get some views, and pewdiepie got roped in and fell for her scheme to create "controversy". It's all about tricking people to give her views, not so much about veganism. And now she's going to get what she wants.

[@Verdoux007]

After watching your video, I actually might try a meatless monday, but not so with the more aggressive vegan youtubers. Those just make me want eat more meat for the spite of it.

[@Garbage315]

How come those "aggressive vegan youtubers" affect your decision so much? Going vegan should come through the self-realization that killing and torturing animals is wrong, just you letting them affect your opinion is illogical by nature. Get your head on straight first buddy.

[@Verdoux007]

You're under the false assumption that everybody goes vegan for the same reason and that's just not the case.

[@Garbage315]

Verdoux007 LOL so wtf do you hope to accomplish with "meatless monday?" You won't reap any of the health benefits, you're still abusing animals for the 6 other days of the week, and you're still killing the environment the other 6 days of the week as well. I'll tell you again, get your head on straight. And wtf do these militant vegans have to do with any of this?

[@Verdoux007]

+B Johnson Are you seriously expecting that people change their lifestyle completely overnight? That's just not going to happen for most people.

[@Garbage315]

Verdoux007 Your reply to my first post was completely inadequate so how about we try this again? Why do those "militant vegans" just make you want to "eat more meat for the spite of it?" I'm not trying to bash you mate, I'm genuinely curious why you're letting those individuals affect your thought-process so violently?

[@strobes733]

I will be honest. Before watching this I thought nothing of vegans. But now I will actually have a go & look further into the subject because you have opened my eyes. Great vid! I know its old but definitely feel its still VERY relevant! ;)

[@btrue1222]

Glad I'm not the only one who was disturbed by Sorsha's approach. I've been vegan for over 2 yrs. but my boyfriend is a junk food omnivore. Since the time I went vegan I got him to cut out dairy milk and switch to almond milk, use vegan butter only, vegan mayo only. and "cage free/free range" eggs (so far)...though the so called "free range" eggs are often still a nightmare for animals. I got him to switch one by one. More manageable/less stressful for him, and he feels good about being able to help without getting overwhelmed. Seeing me enjoy large fruit meals has also been inspiring him to try it as of late.

[@alluneedislessthan3]

Yay! I'm right there with you, I've been trying to get my boyfriend to go at least occasionally vegan or hopefully vegetarian but every time I try to challenge him on the concept of eating animals he gets angry and shuts me down. My new goal is to just make my kitchen 100% vegan and let him see that it is doable and can be very delicious.

[@creevey82]

Not to be an arse, but it's rarely good to try and 'change' your partner. A relationship is about acceptance, not modification.

[@alluneedislessthan3]

+Michael C I'm not trying to change who he is as a person because that is perfect. I just wish he would stop eating so much meat (if for no other reason but to spare my nose when he uses the bathroom). But I'll still date him even if he doesn't. Dietary choices aren't the be-all-end-all for me.

[@veganactive3504]

Alas, they are not dietary choices. He is willingly and unnecessarily causing the suffering and death of animals. Veganism isn't a diet.

[@creevey82]

veganactive Yeah see that'd be the totalitarian approach that UV is talking about. It may help in making you feel good about your decision, but using that in an argument is no different to guilt-tripping.

[@glimeertwin2]

I'd like to point out that Vegan Gains who's probably the biggest vegan youtuber has turned it around of late. He made a video critizing freelee's actions and criticized her crazy diet.

[@glimeertwin2]

So maybe some hope

[@sergiovalenzuela372]

+Byron Martinez I've noticed that. His last few vids had almost nothing to do with publicity post.

[@christinam6663]

Vegan Gains has never been afraid to call out other people's shit, even if they are/were his friends. It's called having some integrity and logical consistency. You can be boisterous and obnoxious _and_ still have integrity.

[@maceynichole5522]

I loved that video. I'm so proud of him. :)

[@ph93527]

and Harley is livid. He lost his shit.

[@Hugosilva759]

You're the most down to earth vegan . And I love that!

[@Katetanic]

7:08-7:12 THANK YOU!!!!!!!! Finally, someone talks about it!!

[@ViktorScberg]

Who came here purposely roast some vegan activist from *PewDiePie* but ended up listening to this channel?

[@peaceoutbear34]

im not vegan but you seem to be like a logical person unlike other vegans who demands veganism to omnivores and force them to change their lifestyle. because of you i might actually think aobut being vegan lol.

[@runawaypacman]

I completely agree with you. That meatless monday thing was actually a good idea.

[@kissmyfugginbutt2205]

Yeah too bad she contributed to the death of a cancer patient

[@veganactive3504]

"This person beats around the bush instead of informing me straight up that I needn't harm animals for any reason, thus I feel like she isn't a threat to my current exploitative lifestyle. For this reason, I will re-think about being a contributing member in the act of causing unnecessary suffering and death to animals." Glad you're amused and guided by simple psychology (foot in the door theory), instead of acting on reason and logic and contribute to the cessation of unnecessary slaughter immediately. Might just be me, but the option of not being a puppet and doing good things as fast as possible seems the better option.

[@oldthingspirit]

Veganism doesn't "stop animal suffering", just reduces it to a minimimum, wich is awesome. But I think it's a mistake to make the division between vegan/non vegan as: the most ethical thing ever/ not ethical at all. We are all hurting animals, even if you are the most vegan person on earth and you don't consume palm oil, or sugar (both products lead to masive deforestation and hurt the animals) and buy all your clothes from non-exploitation production etc etc. I think what makes many people to not even try to be ethical at all is to have horrible standards pushed on them (you are never going to do it well enough for certain people). It may be much more useful for the animals to convince people to reduce as much as they can their meat and animal products consumption than to bash them because "oh my god, they eat ecological really well treated hens eggs, they are just as bad as any person eating meat every day!!!". Putting everything in terms of black or white isn't accurate nor good for the animals.

[@veganactive3504]

Alba Cronopio Ganímedes Veganism stops *intentional and desired* animal suffering. It stops animals from being viewed as *products* but rather as equal, sentient beings. There is a clear distinction between a vegan and a nonvegan. The fact that everything one ever does (Taking a stroll in the woods - crushed ants. Gardening - killed worms. Olive oil production - squirrel habitat destroyed, etc) interacts with other animals is largely irrelevant, because it is to some degree unavoidable. To make the mistake of equating the avoidable/intentional/desired forms of suffering (organic eggs) and the unavoidable/unintentional (accidentally eating a worm inside of a cherry) is to make a huge disservice to the cause of animal liberation, and is an "exercise in futility" fallacy that serves no purpose. There is nothing extreme about promoting nonviolence (true veganism), promote (and do) nothing less.

[@ANoteToSelf]

spot on! Thank you for taking the time to put this ❤

[@ANoteToSelf]

*put this together

[@robot.equestrian6318]

So, Sorsha advocates in a way that you don't agree with, now thats considered bad advocating? I don't agree with Sorsha, but saying that Sorsha's activism is bad because you don't agree with it doesn't make sense.

[@UnnaturalVegan]

Did you actually watch the video?

[@The0Patt]

Doesn't seem like it....

[@Burog1]

watch the video bird brain

[@robot.equestrian6318]

yes. Although you did research why didn't you say the research and then say that her way of activism isn't a good sign for vegan activism instead of saying hers is wrong and then say why its wrong?

[@stevenkeef48]

you clearly dont understand what she means or her point...

[@NIIVES]

10:33 holy shit the 'community' thing is so relatable! I've been having these thoughts for a while now. Whether it's veganism, spirituality, religion, politics or just cliques at school or work: communities always seem to ruin what was initially very beautiful.

[@victoriamauro9867]

Thank you for showing people that not all vegans are crazy! I am not a vegan, but I'd like to consider myself an ally. I have given up all, beef, pork, and dairy. I no longer consume animal products on a daily basis, as I've learned that it is not necessary in order to be healthy. You're message of "baby steps" or small changes is much more impactful than that of the other "angry vegans".

[@jackburton6998]

You're right IMO baby steps lead to something bigger. These little agreements such as Meatless Mondays is like a "gate way" drug. It leads to even more days and more positive discoveries and reasons to keep it going. That was kind of my approach to stop eating meat completely. Good points here. Thumbs up.

[@lucy.2485]

My biggest problem is the fans and you tubers telling people to kill themselves and how horrible they are. Doesn't that counteract their beliefs? Like you can't kill a cow, but you can harass a human all you like.

[@otomeleifu]

Thank you. I was watching Onision's video about veganism (my fault bc onision is so irrarional) and people were literally telling me and other people to kill themselves. Like, what kind of backwards mess is this?

[@lucy.2485]

+Melrose&Leifu onision has changed what he says about this a lot. In more recent videos he acknowledges that taking little steps, like eating only white meat, is still better than nothing. But I do know what video you are talking about, he basically says that if you eat meat your opinion is irrelevant. Then the vegan commenters start attacking people I just don't really get their thought process

[@katobytes]

Radical people will say radical things.

[@Dilligaf_Josh]

So "vegan team" doesn't want Sorcha and us "regular" folk don't want Sorcha....yeah

[@TwistedMind6969]

"regular folks" LOL love it.

[@veganactive3504]

Does "regular" folk by any chance refer to the majority of people, who for some reason choose to unnecessarily impose suffering and death on animals? I'd rethink the notions of normality you were taught by our war and hate-ridden society.

[@hdhxbxbx]

Nor the vegetarian team wants Sorsha 🖐🏼

[@suppleart3398]

We all want Sorsha. Sorsha is awesome

[@jakem5737]

You make very intelligent points. Thanks for being here.

[@tank7542]

I wish more people were like you. You actually think things through and not just say listen to what I say here is my opinion and my opinion is right no matter whats happening

[@Somebody98]

I agree so much! A lot of people are very uneducated on veganism, and even just one bad encounter with an angry "elitist" type vegan may put them off from ever wanting to learn more! More vegans need to realize that we need to treat people as if we are on a common ground while advocating

[@maceynichole5522]

I don't even like saying the word vegan because I don't like associating myself with the stereotypes people think of. The sad thing is the stereotypes are kind of true....

[@christopherbolanos3751]

Unnatural Vegan reacts to Pewdiepie reacting to Sorsha reacting to Pewdiepie. wOoooOAhhH

[@chrisray172]

I don't understand how you can keep presenting yourself so eloquently in spite of all of criticism you receive. You are a major baller.

[@seiryuu8915]

vegans and meat-eaters fighting what to eat me: food is food!

[@AndreasvonT]

She has 67000 dislikes on her video.. lol several people a minute are getting the "vegans are nuts" message

[@aaronverran1360]

holy crap where did all these people come from to dislike what she said was reasonable

[@andrewclancy2511]

It's actually harder for me to think of meat eaters as murderers and milk drinkers as rapists, not easier. Sincerely, a (I like to think) rational person who is vegan.

[@boyar1978]

People respond better by simply providing them facts and letting them make the decision what they will do. People hate being told what to do. Because of this stop telling people what to do. Should state your point of view and let them be the one to change. I am not a vegan but I also do not like to eat red meat as I prefer not to sit for hours chewing on a hunk of meat. I love bread, Cheese, milk, yogurt, honey, eggs, and vegetables. I am starting to like fruits more and more.

[@veronikabauer9353]

I've recently been really fucking mean and annoying to people on my Facebook. I'm trying to learn new ways to spread the message of veganism without perpetuating the angry stereotype. I appreciate this video. I think a lot of us need to hear this.

[@witchstitch]

No one appreciates having someone shout at them condescendingly and trying to force them into changing their lifestyle. These big vegan channels are just turning more people away from veganism than they are bringing any into it, plus they reinforce this stigma of us being insane.. The fact of the matter is, people will always respond positively when they are not being forced into something. My family has always eaten way more meat than vegetables and fruit, and my youngest sister has had a bad view on veganism as she's seen the crazies of us on youtube. When I've told them I've chosen to be vegan, their response to that was immediately negative and ridiculing. Fast forward 5 months of which I just minded my own business and made some delicious vegan meals for the whole family every now and then, now my youngest sister has also chosen to become vegan and my family has been eating significantly less meat. And all I had to do was just be a good, healthy example.. It's just so aggravating that Sorsha and Freelee and their likes don't see the negative impact they're having, or maybe they do see it but just dont care

[@DrGerbils]

I don't think Pewdiepie's reaction to Sorsha's video should be considered representative of the general public's reaction to militant vegans. Pewdiepie is clearly unhinged. A sane individual, when alerted to a 13 month old video gathering dust on a relatively tiny channel, in which someone criticizes him for not being more socially conscious would either think, "yeah, she's right" and change his ways, or "No, she's wrong" and forget about it. But not Pewdiepie. No, he reacts in the time honored style of the bully, ridiculing Sorsha in a response video for his 47 million subscribers. Large numbers of those subscribers saw the video as a call for harassing Sorsha. Pewdiepie did not delete, as a responsible channel owner would, a subscriber's comment expressly calling for an attack on all of Sorsha's social media accounts. Nor did he try to dissuade his mouth breathing minions from joining such an attack. His was visibly pissed off when Sorsha understated the number of his subscribers. He did not react only to Sorsha's long forgotten video, but combed through her more recent videos for images he could take out of context for humorous effect. I don't know why Pewdiepie felt so threatened by Sorsha's itty bitty account, but I can see no other explanation for his video, a sledge hammer to swat a mosquito.

[@harhccha]

I watched the same video you did, and based on your response I think you're generally unfamiliar with Pewdiepie's style of delivery. He exaggerates his emotions for comedic effect. What I do somewhat agree with is that he could have exercised more discretion on knowingly sending his vocal subscriber base to Sorsha's channel, only to have pretty much all of her recent videos' likes be dwarfed by dislikes. At the same time, in all of his jocular delivery, Pewdiepie was genuinely annoyed at being accused of not having made any meaningful contribution to society when he's generated over a million dollars to various charities. To discount that entirely in the face of veganism is not a way to gain allies.

[@DrGerbils]

Unremarkable Harry I know he was annoyed. But why? Is he, even with his 47 million subscribers, so insecure that he can't ignore a video that even Sorsha had probably forgotten she had made?

[@harhccha]

Honestly a part of me believes that there's an element of recklessness on the actions of Pewdiepie, but at the same time having fewer subscribers affords no protection when all of the information in question is already made public. If Sorsha said what she said through a private communication channel to Pewdiepie and then he made it public after the fact, then there would be a more legitimate call for outrage. Besides, he didn't order his following to trash Sorsha's channel, so it's difficult to simply blame him when his subscribers should be capable of thinking for themselves.

[@mitmat2140]

Recently, Pewds made a video about a boy that was bullied because of him. I like some of Pewds vids but I think he does not realize that he is capable of influencing millions to bully someone.

[@DrGerbils]

Unremarkable Harry " If Sorsha said what she said through a private communication channel to Pewdiepie and then he made it public after the fact, then there would be a more legitimate call for outrage." The video had been public for 13 months without much of a response. Then it wsa brought to Pewdiepie's attention, and he in turn brought it to the attention of his viewers. At that point it was as a dam had broken. The comment sections of all of Sorsha's videos were spammed with virtually identical comments from dozens of P's viewers, almost as if someone had orchestrated it. "Besides, he didn't order his following to trash Sorsha's channel, so it's difficult to simply blame him when his subscribers should be capable of thinking for themselves." He did nothing to stop it either. He could have deleted the comments on his video that were expressly calling for a campaign of harassment. Or he could have left them up and added a comment of his own condemning the idea. I realize he cannot police his comment sections 24/7, but the initial round of harassment spanned several hours. Later rounds occurred over several days as Sorsha posted new videos.

[@adriannas9703]

I'm just really glad I watched this. Not a vegan and don't plan to be, but it did make me feel better about veganism and respect a bit more

[@BlackLabelSlushie]

I'm not vegan but grew up around vegans (long story). I am genuinely unsure of the reason, but, for whatever reason, veganism attracts a genuinely disproportionate percentage of toxic people, for example narcissists, very vain, mood disordered, backstabbing, hate filled, neurotic and passive aggressives. Also, just like in organized religion, these creepy types often become prominent voices of veganism with many followers and these followers see these narcs and creeps as epitomes of virtue. It's sad

[@gwendoline4473]

I couldn't agree more with your video! I'm vegan myself & I don't get how some 'vegan activists' can be that rude & extreme and still think they are helping the cause, it's just making people dislike veganism and this is totally understandable bc let's be honest who wants to join a community where there's a new drama everyday? Those vegans need to understand the difference between idealism & extremism! But it's amazing to have people like you to represent us on yt so thank you for that :) PS : Sorry if there's any mistakes i'm french!

[@user-je7pp2wg3m]

Right on. Earthling ED ( I recommend people who want to learn how to effectively speak to meat eaters watch his videos) has changed the way I speak to meat eaters and pretty much anyone I disagree with. We should reach them with facts and education and massive patience. It's about the animals not about just being right

[@marisqoits17]

The banana girl, sorsha and vegan gains should watch this to realize that what they do does more harm than good..

[@Garbage315]

Go read Vegan Gains comment sections on his video. You'll find tons of people thanking him for turning them vegan. I haven't seen a single one of these comments on this bitch's page. As far as the fitness community goes Vegan Gains put veganism on the fucking map, way more than unnatty Swayze could ever say.

[@maceynichole5522]

Vegan Gains actually made a fantastic video calling out Freelee. But in a calm, respectful way.

[@Garbage315]

Potato Queen Freelee damages herself by promoting pseudoscience and proclaming that you can eat as much calories as you want without repercussions. VG cites his sources and lays the facts out.

[@marisqoits17]

+Potato Queen Ty I will check it out❤️

[@marisqoits17]

+B Johnson there's no need to call her a bitch you're doing exactly what this entire video is about.. It's ok to disagree with me but read the comment from Potato Queen and maybe learn something from her. Have a good one✌🏻️

[@carrieanderson7948]

You're probably the most sensible vegan youtuber❤️

[@monavanderwaal7108]

List of non-angry vegan youtubers: Lush Jenna Marbles Chonunmigooksaram Hayleyghoover Sarahrush Princessmei Mommytang And these are just the ones I'm subbed too!

[@oddspongeout]

Lauren Toyota!

[@gracetaylorle]

if you actually know what went on to animals in this world, you would bet your bottom dollar we're fucking angry

[@LaMiriabelle]

+Grace Seriously? If she watches vegan KZbinrs, l am pretty sure she knows, what is going on in this world. Also the exploitation of animals isn't the only problem we have. What about the people who are harvesting our crops or make our clothes? There are so many awful things in this world and veganism isn't the glorious answer to all of them.

[@gracetaylorle]

+LaMiriabelle it will help most of them though

[@Amyjo101]

Great list! Thank you, I'm going to check these guy's out :)

[@mr.despacito4301]

3 years later. I still see you as a very awesome person

[@JETLIFEMUZIK]

I fall in love with her face and voice every video I watch

[@MayuMadeItThrough]

Totally agree with you here.

[@normalteenagegirl]

You're great. Best vegan channel out there. Can't wait for baby unnatural vegan!!

[@SaintOsburg]

what do you think about all the vegan drama channels, are they also bad for veganism? they make us look like a bunch of squabbling kids.

[@_anon_4532]

I don't think they really care about promoting veganism, pretty sure they just want views.

[@InTheNameOfLife1]

I think it's because they out vegan youtubers for the squabbling kids they are....

[@graceelizabeth7062]

I totally agree with what you said in this video. I totally agree that there's no real benefit for any sort of activism if it's bossy, guilt-tripping, and negative such as some vegan youtubers. But in a perfect world people would be able to look past someone's approach and look directly at what they're saying and the message. But again, that's a perfect world. I also think that vegans tend to forget that there are lots of things going on in the world. We get so overwhelmed with the horror of factory farming and the damage that animal products are doing to our bodies and the planet and we forget that there's lots of causes that people are fighting for. Not being vegan doesn't make someone a bad person and doesn't mean they aren't trying in there own ways to make a difference or have a positive impact. It's all about information, and empathy. Great video!!

[@jacquelinecheng928]

Much respect for your level-headedness and reason. Immediately subscribed. Gonna actually try cutting meat out of my diet on some days like meatless Mondays because of this.

[@ryeexodusprilles7773]

This wamen is right #respectthiswamen

[@chiutsukasa7206]

yes! first time I saw a nice and kind vegan on KZbin! yes, Pewds is right, because Sorsha is insulting all of the people who eat meat. I mean like, calling milk drinkers rapists is insulting. take a look at her, she WEARS clothes, right? so the animal population is still under attack(because of the clothes that are mostly made out of animal wool/fur). She never deserves to be here in youtube. that makes you, pewds, and all the other nice vegans(not Sorsha) right. (Sorsha has to respect the rights of people who eat meat and drink milk.)

[@mhnpl8140]

+Just Some Vegan Actually we should not JUDGE people I mean negative opinions I'm not a vegan but sometimes no meat in my meals I like it and I do it, it's so simple. (sorry for my english)

[@mhnpl8140]

I mean Hurting people is wrong you know. But I'm willing to criticize people who try to hurt others by their negative opinions

[@mhnpl8140]

Just Some Vegan Maybe you have a mistake. In my opinion, they like being a vegan Good for them I respect them. But the one think they're vegans and they can tell others who eat meat are piece of shit I'll say to her/him "you are a bitch" . Not all vegans, just her/him who has bad attitude doesnt respect others difference opinions I love animals but also I eat them 😂😂 it's sad but truth 😂 We should kill animals for food, I mean just kill not kill for fun or getting more money. If they really "rape" I'm fine when someone hurt them. :))))

[@napster2333]

wait a fucking minute, i'm a meat eater and i think i'm a terrible person for supporting stabbing animals to death for hamburgers ! telling us that it's ok to eat meat is just going to make us comfortable with our crimes against the animals, fuck it i think i'm going vegan.

[@mcel6551]

amen!brother

[@sugarpeas45]

Cool. Hate this bitch. Passive conformist

[@mettabee]

where did she say once in this or any video that meat eaters should be told it's ok to stab animals to death for hamburgers? I want a timestamp right here.

[@napster2333]

+Sharon not literally, by That's what she's implying

[@sugarpeas45]

Sharon She apologizes for omnivores by calling vegans ineffective activists for pointing out the follies in someone else's logic and lifestyle

[@rachmaninoffenthusiast5563]

So much respect for you right now

[@TheSilentWalkerz]

Wow a vegan who isn’t obnoxious and doesn’t attack everyone who isn’t vegan. I didn’t think that existed

[@BethGrantDeRoos]

Anyone know how much money does Sorsha donate to charity? Bottom line is thoughtful people like being spoken to in a thoughtful manner, which does result in change over time.

[@crimeslime5419]

Right? She's the one using the ten minute mark to make money for herself. I guess if you have a core message then you don't need to have videos with any substance 😂

[@user-rr6uy7re9o]

She's turned thousands vegan which is saving even more animals.

[@BethGrantDeRoos]

Actually that's faulty logic unless you can prove with reliable data that she has actually turned thousands of people vegan and that they have stayed vegan for the statistical five years which is a norm when it comes to data that shows someone has remained in a lifestyle. Not to mention the more altruistic someone is the more likely they will over time, change unkind behavior which then has a domino effect in making even more humane wise choices. Thus lasting change not starting a behavior like becoming vegan and not staying vegan.

[@Dankapotamus918]

+Good Night why does someone else's opinion of how they speak to you have any bearing on the decision to not contribute to animal suffering. That's a pathetic loser excuse. Should slavery be met with that apathetic "hey guys stop that" view point. Activism sometimes involves someone yelling that facts in your face and if that turns you off then your a giant mindless sheep who's opinions are swayed by people's words and not your own critical thinking. So many inferior betas it's insane.

[@tomkos1546]

yep agressive aproach is way to go... just scream and insult non vegans and ur 100% get your beliefs spread... oh and if u think sorsha is Activist because of her videos ur um pathetic lunatic excuse of a vegan

[@gabivwind2378]

I like you. You give a good name to vegans, more vegan youtubers should be like you. I grew up loving meat so doubt itd be soon but you make me want to be vegan someday I´ll consider it. thank you.

[@morid0]

Not a vegan here, but been trying to reduce meat intake, I really had the perseption that most vegans are like sorsha, since most vegans I have meet in real life have been bat shit crazy like her, is good to know that there are some vegans like you, If someone like sorsha would try to change my views on eating meat I would instantly tell her to fuck off, if I had a converstaion with someone like you I would strongly consider to give veganism a try, at least on a personal level and in my humble opinion I think you make your point loud and clear I see one approach (sorsha) as non productive and even "harmfull" if you want to promote veganism.

[@mitmat2140]

Check out Rich Roll.

[@notthefather3919]

Exactly

[@KrissyMeow]

I am in the same exact boat as you. :)

[@Garbage315]

So you're going to let the character of one person decide what you should or shouldn't do as far as your own personal morals and ethics goes? Who really is the problem? Yourself or those militant vegans? Sounds like it's you.

[@dhsnakes1605]

Hi, nonthreatning friendly neigborhood vegan here! If you want to look at more channels like this I have a few suggestions: 1 Kerry mcarpet 2 mic the vegan 3 Jon venus 4 Brian turner 5 Chelsealifts 6 Bite Size Vegan 7 veganism unspun 8 Joe vegan 9 edgy veg They are all amazing people. And they won't scream in your face. Promise. Sorsha is part of the rt4 (raw till 4) cult. Please ignore them and check out these youtubers I listed above instead. Have a nice day. :)

[@Hypocoristical]

Ran across your video, and I'm actually very glad that I have. I'm currently a vegetarian, (Just Ovo now), and I'm a bit scared to take the leap into veganism. I think out of the vast amount of Vegan KZbinrs, I'm happy to have found you. Subscribed! :D

[@shaunidevos50]

I'm striving to be vegan, and I even notice this reaction with myself, it comes natural to judge other people.. knowing I used to be a meateater myself, and would be really offended and hurt if a vegan would attack me for not being one. I'm glad I found your video, seeking for different opinions about veganism. And I share yours, it is important not to adapt the 'general vegan-attitude'. It is way more important to give information and try to inspire. Thank you! :)

[@ordinarypen8369]

Why can't there be more vegan youtubers like you? You actually treat meat eaters like ACTUAL PEOPLE despite disagreeing with the diet, instead of encouraging the bad cult mentality in youtube veganism. Really wish I found your channel earlier. :)

[@rogersmith9348]

Do you feel guilty for contributing to Jen Journey's death?

[@InTheNameOfLife1]

+NorthwesternGirl94 and its your place to decide for someone that they shouldn't try alternative treatment when it's their last hope?

[@InTheNameOfLife1]

Qualmify It doesn't matter if it were to work or not, it obviously gave her comfort. i lost my sister to a brain tumor and she believed that "God" would save her. i obviously knew that to be false but that doesn't mean it was my place to tell her god doesn't exist based on my beliefs. If UV cared about taking down the facility she would have promoted that, not the stripping of the only comfort someone had left before they died.

[@teresalina702]

I was widowed at 31. I get it. Please trust me - I really do get it. Even a decade later, grief sometimes pays an unexpected visit and I have to deal with that unwelcome appearance because grief is a mean little bitch who will not leave until she's good and ready and to hell with your schedule and your plans. But we've got to be honest with ourselves, too. Jen didn't die because of UV. She didn't die because of durianrider, either. She died because she had a brutal, unforgiving disease which simply won the battle. Nobody else caused Jen's death and honestly, it's unfair to say that anyone else actually contributed to her death because as hard as it is to accept, it's just not true. It wasn't God's fault, it wasn't her doctor's fault and it sure as hell wasn't her own fault. It wasn't my fault, and it wasn't your fault. It wasn't UV's fault, and -as much as I hate the little douchebag for many many reasons - it wasn't durianrider's fault either. Death happens, and it sucks donkeyballs. We try to assign blame and fault because until we actually come to acceptance (and that doesn't happen overnight ... it doesn't happen in a few days, a few weeks, a few months, either) it's the only thing we *can* do in order to keep plodding along. It's what we do to keep our sanity relatively intact. But ultimately we come to a point where fighting the reality becomes more harmful than it is helpful. Wish you all a measure of peace.

[@RosieToes]

When are you going to address the woman you denounced as a scammer? She just died after you cut off her treatment with your propaganda. Hey- at least you saved the animals! RIP Jen

[@YuuKamijo]

This has to be a mistake. Swayze didn't call Jen to be a scammer, what she did pointed out was that the Gerson treatment was questionable. She has acknowledged that Jen was sick but she wasn't supportive of the treatment that had no scientific proof.

[@InTheNameOfLife1]

+YuuKamijo it wasn't her place to not be supportive of the treatment, it was Jen's last hope. She had exhausted all other efforts so why would someone take it upon themselves to tell others not to support someone's last hope for life? She had a huge hand in stopping those donations. It was not her place.

[@jackharris8212]

+KyAngela The treatment was bullshit and she still would've died anyway. Your point is?

[@jackharris8212]

+sevi I still fail to see the point. Okay, it may not be okay, but so what? She is right.

[@InTheNameOfLife1]

Jack Harris The point is that it was pointless to take away the only comfort and hope someone had. She was dying either way. Stopping donations to her doesn't do anything to take down the broader issue. She was vulnerable and fell for a scam, doesn't mean she deserved to be stripped of it when it gave her comfort. If UV cared about the facility being taken down she would have continued this discussion after Jen's death. Yet conveniently enough her interest in it died when Jen died.

[@sazma3324]

it's nice to know that there are logical people like you around to spread the positivity all while getting your messages across. good on u!

[@kateanden563]

I LOVE YOU. YOU ARE THE ONLY HOPE FOR THE POPULATION TO OPEN OUR EYES THAT SOME VEGANS ARENT CRAZY. YOU ARE BY FAR MY FAVORITE PERSON AND I LOVE HOW YOU ARE SO INTELLECTUAL AND SENSIBLE WITH YOUR WORDS WITHOUT THE SLIGHTEST HINT OF FORCE OR HATRED.

[@rayaviii]

If you aren't vegan, think about this: This world was made with a food chain, humans (some how) being near the top. We were meant to eat animals. I do disagree with the WAY we decide to eat animals but I don't disagree with it completely. Btw great video! You are a vegan that doesn't force veganism on others as viciously as Sorsha does.

[@AlyssaPageOfficial]

"bad vegan activism" happens to be what inspired Carli Bybel, Niki and Gabi & so many other youtubers/ influencers with MILLIONS of fans each to go vegan! You have every right not to agree with somebody's way of promoting the vegan message but what is the point of judging them? especially since these people's activism is obviously working! I don't like vegan gains approach but that doesn't mean I should go around criticizing him on the internet. We all have a common goal, which is to end animal exploitation & environmental destruction & to improve human health. Stirring up drama and slandering other vegan activists isn't really helping anyone!

[@clw5874]

This may sound really weird but your skin looks great! 😅

[@TheBakerBro]

Hitting the subscribe button just because you're a sensible, respectful, reasonable vegan.

[@BeardedPete]

Great video! :) always nice to listen to someone thoughtful

[@laramckinnes341]

i really get what ur saying, and i dislike sorsha's attitude as much as the next one, but as a fellow vegan, i think you are equally as off-putting as sorsha would be. every single video of yours is titled with clickbait to attract people who think vegans and veganism suck, you explain the logistics of every single drama and subject in a sleepy and mind numbing, unpleasant and unhappy manner, and criticize other vegans. should we be nice and helpful? yes. should we be worrying about stepping on 'eggshells' on the off chance of making a carnist have a hissy fit, while they kill billions of our animal friends yearly and ruin the planet for others? no. the adversion to veganism doesn't come from people like freelee and sorsha, btw. ignorance and mob mentality produce a general dislike for ideas and people who challenge your views or who make YOU YOURSELF realize that you might be doing something wrong. it's a defense mechanism. social justice 101. but if we're talking about veganism in pop culture, then you are just as distasteful and stereotypical as sorsha, in my opinion.

[@northernveganmomma1252]

I once owned a shirt that mocked the "meat is murder" slogan. I wasn't a bad person, I was misinformed about nutritional requirements and had a different perspective having grown up in a hunting family. I'm grateful I watched the Nick Cooney speech in my beginning days of veganism because it can be easy to fall into the militant tactics. Loved the Mercy for Animals analogy about the cars, thanks for sharing. Hopefully someday our many voices will down out the crazy few. 💖

[@darkula6665]

Hi UV, I just watched this video. I was vegan for a year, then veggie for 6 months and now back to full blown meat eating. so your point 2 is rock solid!!! your second argument about RT4 is again super accurate, I myself do not like fruit. I forced myself to eat fruit, but I just dont like sweet sour things. avocados and peanut butter kept me vegan. not fruit. subscribed.

[@charlieyellove6600]

I was REALLY honestly angry after watching Sorsha's videos because veganism keeps getting shoved in my face online but you have soothed my nerves. You are so wonderful, and positive, and speak in such an intelligent, sensible way. Seriously, thank you! I wish more people online were like you.

[@1108blackdiamond]

THIS is the positive core message that is bringing more people to Veganism. I'm not vegan, but this is very comfortable to me and I actually think about what you say:) Thank you so much for balancing out Sorsha's shit. Much love❤❤❤❤❤

[@Pizza653]

yes! loving the way you discuss things, reasonably and with a calm voice. I have been a pescatarian (?) all my life, meaning we never ate meat in my family, but fish and dairy, yes. I learned about the cruelty of the dairy industry a year ago, and nowadays I have replaced almost all of the milk, yogurts etc in my diet with nondairy versions, and don't really buy cheese, fish or anything, if I'm in charge of the groceries. Probably will be easier to live plant-based when I move out to my own apartment. I'm never gonna be perfect, but I am trying! the less I have dairy in my diet, the lighter and better I feel :)

[@cat_pb]

I am so happy I found your channel

[@alyssajenkins7710]

Thank you for being not only an advocate for being vegan but for level headed vegans out there who do reach people by using methods you mentioned. I myself am not vegan I have tried it on and off and personally the small steps work best for me! I have no issue limiting my animal product purchases but hopefully one day I can make it stick. I am also one of those people who tried being vegan and I got so sick for the entire time and had so many issues. One of them being very very low iron. So being vegan didn’t work for me a few times and seeing people like sorcha it makes me never want to do it.

[@shelby2117]

I need more of this in my life! We need more people like you in the world.

[@jacksunana]

I've barely started the video, but physically, you remind me of Carly Chaikin so much!

[@enikodarazs8382]

Thank you for these videos. I think there are many of us(yes, it is a part of me still), whose thinking is like Sorshas and I am thankful for people like you, who is trying to make things clear definitely not by attacking. I think if someone attacks people whose thinking is very radical, that makes just bigger agressivity and just strenghtens the anger. It's hard for me to deal with this side of mine, but I can say,as a conclude of this short experience of mine, that this kind of dealing with whatever topic what comes into your life(does not matter why) is much more exciting, than view someone as an enemy. Seems for some of us harder, but time by the time it becomes more exciting and step by step much more clear. Getting to know yourself, that is all about.

[@elisenieuwe4649]

Very recognizable. Over the past two years I have been thinking about going vegan a lot, but the sheer amount of bullshit, hate and emotional manipulation that I encounter time and time again when searching for information, make it that I am still not even vegetarian. It puts me off so much. You don't know half how happy I am to finally found you as a vegan advocate; someone who is actually factual, honest and reasonable. Someone who doesn't make me feel like shit for not being vegan a 100%, that acknowledges the amount effort that making changes takes and that understands perfect does not exist, nor is necessary.

[@lunarequine7734]

Not all vegans are like this. I was vegetarian throughout high school, then vegan, then left due to social pressure from my omnivore friends and family but am thinking about slowly transitioning back into veganism again and I never pushed veganism or vegetarianism on anyone, and decided to make my own morals out of how I personally felt about an animal welfare issue and whether or not it was truly abusive or exploitative. A lot of vegans are so judgy and rude, going so far as to judge even vegans who disagree with them on something, but not everyone is like this.

[@anikidote]

Congratulations, you received a new subscriber due to your perfect responds about Sorcha and Pewdiepie. I love how you explained this topic!

[@TeddySaxbang5690]

Your channel continues to help me stay vegan and think a lot about my approach to conversing with others about veganism. There have been many times in the past where I wish I said something, or said something different, but in those moments I knew there were few things I could say that wouldn't risk my time with that person (or friendship with them) becoming strained. I know that the more friends I have while vegan, the better I can lead by example and introduce them to alternatives, and take moments as they come to speak a little more explicitly or intimately. I am getting better at thinking of thoughtful and relatable rebuttals and explanations as to why I have embraced this journey and identity.

[@SophiaB.0519]

wow I just found this channel and I subscribed immediately because of your amazing ORGANIZED AND LOGICAL ARGUMENTS. thank you! it's hard to find someone who can think objectively and not spread biased opinions to viewers. :)