PFP288 | Hans-Hermann Hoppe: “About Natural Order and its Destruction” (PFS 2024)

[@Hideo_Kojima_yt]

A masterpiece from the master of liberty, again.

[@ilgiardinodeuropa]

Congratulations professor Hoppe! Outstanding speech for clarity and logic.

[@lionelchan1601]

"The source of conflicts is always invariably the same, namely the scarcity or rivalrousness of physical means" Internet misunderstanding based conflict doesn't seem to follow this logic. Actually any misunderstanding or failed hospitality based conflict. Do you agree?

[@VoxofReason]

​@@lionelchan1601 Failed hospitality e.g. when you are not invited into ones home, does of course have something to do with the scarcity of physical means. Misunderstanding on the other hand is not really a conflict. Nothing is taken away from you by misunderstanding someone. But socialists pretend as if that is the case - they reduce opinions (and other speech acts) to physical means, in order to construct a conflict that needs state intervention to be solved. Their argument would have to go like this (but I doubt they ever think this far in the first place): "On a physical level misunderstanding concerns physical means, because it implies that the persons in question do not use their bodies and possessions in a way that you want them to e.g. type the words into their keyboards that you want them to type." But this reasoning simply stems from a category mistake - you want the persons opinion to change! Body/keyboard are only means to this end.

[@michaelr.stoddard3391]

All Hail Hans ! B U T, the reality is that the spread of Hoppe's ideas is not enough. Intellectual arguments are not going to carry the ball over the goal line.... Real ACTION is the second part of the primary virtue of the cardinal virtues PRUDENCE. The second and sine qua non of the virtue of Prudence is ACTION. What are concrete Actions that will begin to move the needle from Zero to 100? 99.9% of libertarian ideas are NOT followed by operational Action Ideas....

[@janetcohen9190]

Mr. Hoppe parallels this M.O. ''Most of the great problems we faced & face are caused by politicians, bureaucrats, shysters, financiers, elites, bankers, pharma, MIC, big-agri, big-bus, msm, and kindred.....; creating solutions to problems they created in the first place." - Walter E. Williams And, continue vigorously. Yikes!

[@alexandrecoutinho5660]

Great Hans Hoppe !

[@goonofhazard2203]

I'm a bit of a Kant expert myself, if you know what I mean.

[@EIE-BA5Avinash]

☠☠

[@BenKernobi]

You must be a cunning linguist! I'm more of a master debater myself.

[@lionelchan1601]

It was a bit of a shock to be told that right off the bat. I wonder if such lines work in the wild.

[@rothbardfreedom]

The first phrase of this video can sound in two different ways.

[@naejttenroc6759]

Seeing no other options, I believe a solution lies in having an Article V Convention and dissolving the federal government and instituting a new one that would be a central government organized according to the Constitution.

[@markusweber3613]

I still consider myself a Kant expert.

[@jsc3739]

It's understandable HHH's current assessment on such subject, this "pronouns" insanity these days... ;-)

[@abstract1052]

1:13 how can you say something like this professor hoppe? :(

[@radiozelaza]

all historical evidence shows that civilization arose because of the rule-of-law, and territorial monopoly on the use of force is an integral part of strengthening the rule-of-law. If we look for example at Poland in 17th century, there is no central authority - and no rule of law. Peasants and burghers have no legal protection, noblemen are above the law. Noblemen actually are the law. King's courts have no recourse and no enforcement power. So if a nobleman is in conflict with another nobleman and the king's court decides in the favor of one or the other - there's no way to enforce the verdict, except for the hurt party to gather an armed posse and invade the offending nobleman's estate. This is the world Hoppe advocates for. A world of permanent conflict, uncertainty regarding law and enforcement of law, and no recognition of rights unless you have the might behind the rights.

[@NicholasSinard]

Jfc go read his book

[@snwlooner]

Absolute Monarchy it is then.

[@radiozelaza]

@@NicholasSinard I've read all his books and they are ahistorical. That's the problem with rationalists.

[@radiozelaza]

@@snwlooner absolute monarchy is obviously better than lawlessness

[@Utopia_YT]

@@snwlooner There is no such thing as "absolute monarchy", you either have a monarchy or you don't.

[@rorkgoose1774]

Property and Freedom...in Turkey? This tells me all I need to know about Hoppe and his libertarian-socialism. No thanks.

[@wowhallo]

He's from Germany. Lives currently in Turkey. And I'm not sure where you're getting that he's a libertarian-socialist. He's an anarcho-capitalist.

[@ASH-cn7qs]

Property is derived from power. You own something/yourself because you want to/have the will AND power to do. Property in abstract is meaningless. Unowned things are not property, act of taking over things makes things property. Public is a spook, so is public property.

[@snwlooner]

Speech and pew pew are also powers I take?

[@Utopia_YT]

@@snwlooner Yes, speech is a form of power and potential violence, the left is right.

[@CTomCooper]

Private property is an extension of bodily-ownership. Because we are the only individuals who have direct access and use to controlling our bodies, we have a rightful title to them. This is observed, rather than just a theory. Based on that a-priori, homesteading is naturally an extension from that because it is the best means people have of acknowledging boundaries in order to avoid conflict. Violence is costly, and to many preferably avoided. In actuality, it is the disregard for property rights which leads to both a desire for power politically, and ultimately committing initiations of violence upon others. Eventually, the willful act to violate another’s property rights always leads to violating another’s bodily ownership.

[@TheGerogero]

Notice how Tom evokes natural law and your comment suggests satanism.

[@Ruleta_23]

No. Read. Think. Come back later.