Phantasy Star Online 2 NGS In 2024

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[@MMOLibrary]

What do you guys think about PSO2 Ngs?

[@LoneKuroRaifu]

Pretty much agree with everything so far. To add, content is either too quick, rewards aren't good, or just abandoned with no reason to run it other than trying very hard to make it fun. Also the community is split between fashion creeps who're likely taking nude photos of your character with mods, and the somewhat honest people who likely won't like you anyway unless you worship this game.

[@MMOLibrary]

NUDE PHOTOS OF UR CHARACTER LOL omg you just brought my world down around me. totally agree with that assesment of types of people who play pso2, spot on.@@LoneKuroRaifu

[@Rooks37]

Part of the reason the story feels so dismal is that it doesn't know how to treat the player character like a main character. Ch5 tries to fix that a little, but it comes off patronizing and rushed. Afterwards, we're right back to the Aina and Manon show.

[@MMOLibrary]

i hear ya on that. i think for me why it feels so bad is i dont have any feelings towards the enemy. i dont care about nex aelio, im not angry with renus retem, ams kvaris means nothing to me. they are just big masses of flesh who do attacks. its not the way i felt with varuna and shiva or even gettumhult. remember when luther had his sister tied up?@@Rooks37

[@Rooks37]

@@MMOLibrary yeah, they don't build any real stakes relevant to the player. Most of the Vera-types just show up without explanation or reason.

[@v2mrstevenofv259]

It’s past saving, they need to make a new phantasy star universe game and give up on this one. They need to do it right too.

[@MMOLibrary]

i cant even disagree. but they clearly are not capable. look at what theyre doing. even in the days of pso2 more than 10 years ago that game wasnt even good despite the fact that we loved it

[@xALLSHALLOSKARx]

Ow man, how much I wanted to like NGS. To bad base game is dead as wel. Miss those times

[@MMOLibrary]

isnt it so sad bro?

[@RumbleKnuck]

Hit all the points. Honestly its kinda crazy how a game with peak combat, customization and now housing manages to still fall on its face. It's like they showed us a good lookin' chicken but then we took a bite and it turned out to be unseasoned and dry :^ ( Surely they'll add some seasoning in version 3, surely.

[@MMOLibrary]

LOL thats a good anlogy and so damn true man i was JUST thinking somethnig liek that lol how its like a perfectly frosted ice cream cake.. but under the frosting.. cakes made of dog shit lol

[@MMOLibrary]

"version 3" 😅🤣🤣😂🤣😅🤣😂☠💀

[@nothingproheretv]

Honestly, I miss the OG PSO1 so much 😢

[@MMOLibrary]

i miss psu

[@costelinha1867]

Don't we all?

[@GriffinFire101]

The game doesn't tell you the rest of the world lives underground.

[@MMOLibrary]

😂🤣🤣😂🤣

[@Rooks37]

@@MMOLibrary This is literally the truth of the matter. They don't tell you anywhere in the story that most of Central City is underground. The only thing we have to go on is a single stupid texture on the elevator.

[@gokenji1194]

@@Rooks37 i totally missed this ^^' maybe when we are able to generate pathing in our Creative Spaces, we can fill the Islands surround the main Island with NPCs live. ^^ and do what we always do. Made the experience Sega only deliver the tools.

[@tonyknighton4019]

Oof!

[@adamdevereaux2713]

@@Rooks37And side quest in Kvaris, but it’s just further proof that how the world building is incorporated just needs SO MUCH work. Not to mention, we should be able to go underground.

[@AzariusR]

When you just leave a game to be dealt with by people who don't understand what Phantasy Star Online was always about and outsource to people who just do this as a 'Job' and nothing else. It's real sad when you see a beloved franchise just disappear from being mentioned except when they needed to at all. SEGA as always will only present their flagship titles like Sonic/Yakuza/Persona just because they are successful, if they didn't just started developing NGS since EP4, but continue on Base PSO2, maybe we'll have a better EP4/5/6 storyline and content, maybe NGS could have been developed with better resources and staff counts, compared to the barebones we get today.

[@spark9189]

the worst thing about ngs is the playerbase. there's a mentality that all content that is over a week old is useless, even when that's not even remotely true. nameless city has nobody in it even though that is by far the best way to farm erradi soul IVs, which you can turn into gran gladia souls to either use or sell, and eredims are designed for you to always be able to find a better ex augment combination and are something that you can safely put augments on because transferring off them doesn't cost a pass. purples are the best way to get gigas augments and the only way to get diro triyals, again either for personal use or selling, but again, nobody runs them. the current major target suppression gets you easy weekly sg and is the best way to farm for the current bis weapon, again to use or sell, and besides are easily the best fights in the game and you haven't actually experienced the game if you haven't done them, but people do not do them because they're too hard for the average player and people don't want to upgrade their gear. and then the same people who don't run this content complain when there's limited time content that only lasts for as long as they would be running it if it was permanent anyways.

[@MMOLibrary]

rofl all fact

[@haonsuni8146]

I'll be honest, I want to love NGS. It's an interesting world and the combat's smooth and enjoyable to the most part. The whole thing's got promise but for whatever reason be it the overall design or the world itself, maybe both I'm not sure, I just don't vibe with the game like I do with Base PSO2. I remember watching gameplay of it way back when you had to practically sneak in with the old 3rd party login made by people who simply wanted to play outside of Japan. That and seeing some of the OG PSO as well I was dreaming of getting in someday, and when it came to Xbox near or around 2020 I was beyond excited. Logged in first thing, made a CAST, got to playing, and already was hooked. Work and school made it hard to stay on so that sucked. Playing NGS though, even after being on with all the stuff that's been added to it from story to missions and events, it's improved greatly but still lacks the spark PSO1 and PSO2 Base had.

[@0rrchids]

We ARKS used to fight galactic level threat.. DarkFalz that can destroy a colony or even a planet! but on NGS its just a soul less dolls an artificial Darkfalz that only destroy a smoll hamlet not even a village .-.

[@MMOLibrary]

for me the threat level was never even relevant, it never actually carried any weight, not to me anyway, but the enemies in pso2 were way cooler than they are in new genesis

[@Xarencey]

Loved PSO2 never played JP but oh boy when it came out on NA, dropped easily 3000 hours into that game. Chapters 1-3 had one of the greatest sci-fi twist I could ever have the pleasure to experience and episodes 4-6 really gave you some in my opinion best boss/urgent missions you could ask for. Really wanted to enjoy NGS it had so many good things going for it but you could very clearly tell its downfall was the change in the game director for NGS. On a pure execution level NGS was just a flop with a lot bringing it down from barebones launch with most classes being incomplete compared to PSO2 counter parts to slow updates on new regions. 100% also say that the cast of characters were such a pain point of the game for NGS, god are they so unbearable and childish and that's just one thing. In Pso2 you really felt your character was the center of the story moving forward but in NGS your just this sort of mindless shell being pulled along the strings these immature cast of characters. Then you get into the poor systems like lack of being able to redo story missions at the beginning because the systems are so underdeveloped. The literally only good thing about NGS is the exploration of the world/graphics. God do I wish they could have just done an episode 7 instead...

[@MMOLibrary]

while i totally hear u on that i really do. after more than 20k hours on pso2. it was time for that game to go. we were so tired of that game it made us sick everyday especially around that 10 year mark it was stagnating and had to go. ngs is a much much better foundation but... ITS EMPTY AKJDBLAKJBFLF

[@WolfSlashslice]

The Biggest thing i always always hated with NGS is the open world, there is no need for such a large space when the only content they bring is in a separate instance in a different area, maybe sometimes they'll remake a zone in the world for you to grind but in the end its one small spot in the wasteland they call open world.. just bring back the ship hub 😅

[@MMOLibrary]

lol if only it was ACTUALLY open world liek black desert online or world of warcraft . but at the same time after being on that GOD DAMN BLUE arks ship for more than 10 years, IM NOT GOING BACK lol. even my dreams are blue now because of that place.

[@rept7]

I am forever disappointed that PSO2NGS has some of the most fun combat and movement systems I've experienced in a MMO-lite, but that they absolutely fumbled with the content you actually do with it. Having fun with emergency missions? Well, power creep is going to stop that. Want to truly explore the world? Go for it, you're not going to find anything once you unlock all the skill point challenges. Are you ready to engage in exciting endgame activities with other players? What endgame!? I only wish there was a "PSO2NGS but good".

[@MMOLibrary]

what it really boils down to is planet halpha is empty and its sad. i remember back 10 years ago there was more to do even on that stal ass arks command ship in pso2

[@notqunt1671]

I feel like a large reason Sega didnt call this PSO3 is because they knew this was a fucking disaster and decided not to throw away the name on this poorly thought out mess. I equate this game to a modern Phantasy Star Universe, its really cool and builds on the previous game with better graphics but lack of content and solid direction killed it from being a true sequel and instead the numbered sequel will come and better things

[@4Pickledonions]

It still tarnishes the name

[@notqunt1671]

@@4Pickledonions not if everyone forgets it, you'd be hard stretched to find many people that even know what the fuck PSU is, this game will be forgotten way harder because atleast PSU had some fans and good qualities, NGS is fucked

[@HellLord0931]

Bro don't shit on PSU as that game was faaaar better than this garbage

[@HellLord0931]

Also PSU had tons of content, you probably just never played it when it was relevant lmao

[@notqunt1671]

@@HellLord0931 yeah except we're comparing it to the rest of the series, it has a lack of content and always has compared to the others that was like a major complaint of it. I played the game at launch up until PSO2 released in Japan so I definitely know how much substance universe had. Let's be real universe was basically a glorified version of 1 that played better. I love universe but it died a slow death for a reason

[@lylef.11]

I'll take quality or quantity any day. I think it's pretty easy to say that everything about NGS is high quality. The Graphics, the combat gameplay, the customization etc. For the most part, the game is bug free, and most bugs are fixed quickly. I think the biggest problem with NGS was the botched launch, which was laggy, buggy, and terrible. This turned away most of the player base, and the game has been forced to try to attract new players, with QOL and catch-up events, instead of investing more into the late game.

[@MMOLibrary]

i definitly agree with you about the quality 100 percent that stuff is all better, but i dont think the launch had anything to do with it. that launch was years ago its dead and gone, over with. when a new class releases the games population shoots up over 15x, and those players never stay either. look at games liek fall out 76. that game had a disasterous launch and now its one of the most beloved titles with myriad steam reviews mostly positive.

[@lylef.11]

@@MMOLibrary Most online games will keep about 10% of the population seen at launch. This means that the games launch is vitally important to the overall population seen in the game. The NGS launch was so bad that SEGA has had to try to defy the odds, and try to bring back, or find some of that lost 90%. SEGA has not done a very good job at this. Furthermore, SEGA developed NGS with its 10+ year old game engine, which caused a lot of problems and resulted in a slower than expected development for updates (I remember that this was why achievements were introduced 1+ year into the game). I noticed that almost all major updates are meant for improving the leveling process or the gameplay experience for new players. This has all come at the cost of developing new content, including enemies, bosses, maps, mission types, etc.

[@rex_melynas]

They removed the gear score requirement for story quests (not that it matters anyway as they spoonfeed gear now too) This doesn't solve the story being short thou

[@MMOLibrary]

actually, the way that it works is, in order to enter certain zones you need a certain gear requirment. each zone has a gear requirment. and if u dont meet it you cant do the quest. they never removed anything. the thing is they give out so much gear now that no one is ever under that requirment, but new players wouldnt know that.

[@rex_melynas]

@@MMOLibrary they removed the quest that outright stated you need certain level to enter. For example, to end chapter 1 you needed to reach 1440 BP Magnus rank 2, as a main story task. Now, you still need the BP to enter said zone, but they removed said task from the progression, so you can still continue the story quests. This means as long as you don't need to enter specific combat zones for a main story quests, your BP is no longer needed. They also reorganized guiden's quests, so you gain exp more sparingly, the total exp from guiden is still the same, but you get chunks earlier to get highers levels faster. So for the new story on a new character, you should in theory have enough with the free hextra weapons and then the free straga, at least to meet any story BP requirement until you can unlock ordinal tower and get a free obsidia, after that the grind for a decent weapon start, but Sega patched stairs across the early game progression. This doesn't solve the story issues, not the lack of endgame content, but new players don't have to do as heavy of a grind as we did for the first 5 chapters anymore. Which is fine, wouldn't still recommend much this game, having only leciel and dreads as endgame content and weeklies you do in two days aren't the most fun experience. And a new player will get so many materials they will get confused why they need 4 different cubes and 6 minerals to upgrade a weapon

[@kennyLee-g9x]

Love the video Lumi! -Draco

[@MMOLibrary]

DRACOOOO TY!

[@kennyLee-g9x]

Of course bro! I'm trying to get unbanned from Venom btw@@MMOLibrary

[@MMOLibrary]

wait wait wait wait wait what what wah?@@kennyLee-g9x

[@highimpact1]

The customization is so slept on in this game, its sad. It sucks they didn't bring all the abilities from PSO2 at the same time. This left the combat not as in-depth as the previous game and it didn't feel fun to swap abilities and customize them. PSO really is meant to be a social game so you are right that the players are the ones who make the content. There are so many emotes and ways to communicate via the popup chat windows. Part of the problem is that most people that play want to focus on the grind and do not want to chat with each other and make actual friends, at least not in-game. Social stuff has pivoted to social media and discord so with that aspect removed the only real interest is like you said, fashion and the endless grind. I don't know how they can fix this problem sadly. Also, all of the PSO game's menus were designed FOR controllers. Menus are much easier to navigate with controller than mouse and many new players don't know this. While you can do every thing in menus with a mouse it all takes 10 x longer. I say this being someone who prefers Mouse and keyboard with most games. If they made the UI a bit easier to navigate for pc users it could help retain new players whos inventory gets bombarded all the time while they click each item instead of quickly selected them with a trigger press. There is so much they could have done better and it really hurts being not only a fan of PSO but the original 4 games as well.

[@gokenji1194]

I really only get in to NGS to Create my dreams. But I'm more a sandbox gamer then a RPG tell me a story one.

[@tonyknighton4019]

26:58: Whoa!

[@sdunned7842]

You would think based on pso1 they would have endless potential with ngs.. but these weebs keep spending 15$ a week on skimpy outfits.

[@MMOLibrary]

PREACH MY GUY

[@choumma]

i loved pso2 for its kitsch aesthetics, fashion and combat. ngs took away 2 of those things, but i'm really upset about the combat. just read what swiki (a jp resource) has to say about just this _one_ specific gunslash PA: "While rotating, it attacks a total of five times by slashing and shooting in the following directions: 12 o'clock in front > 9 o'clock to the left > 5 o'clock in the rear right > 1 o'clock in front > 12 o'clock. You can change direction even during an attack, so by inputting the directions front > right > left rear > front, you can shoot all five times forward." it goes on to lay out the timing with which to rotate your camera by. sure very few on global played gunslash on luster sub, sure the quality of all weapons may have varied across patches, sure some of that difficulty in executing certain weapons was from jank. but there was still infinitely more skill expression in base than there is now in NGS. it mattered to me and now it's gone!

[@MMOLibrary]

i hear you and can totally relate to you more than usual because this was my main on jp kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJrVqn6emNV6b5Y

[@choumma]

@@MMOLibrary oh what a blast of nostalgia i just got. huge smile on my face. it's like an AA meeting, it's nice to know others feel exactly the same

[@tonyknighton4019]

29:29: That's because NGS's main purpose is to recover costs from failed projects like the Sakura Wars gacha a couple of years back.

[@MMOLibrary]

phantasy star online 2 new genesis main purpose is NOT to recover from any sakura wars gacha a couple years back. it is not, it was not, and will not ever be that.

[@tonyknighton4019]

@@MMOLibrary It is. That's why Sega is broke most of the time. Why do you think they are no longer making consoles?

[@InuzakaNaze]

@@tonyknighton4019 it's no excuse if they made trash in hoping it'd turn into gold.

[@MMOLibrary]

@@tonyknighton4019 no its not.

[@tonyknighton4019]

Whoa dude. I'm gonna stop you right there, there is no Phantasy Star V that last game is a spin off.

[@MMOLibrary]

simmer down.

[@tonyknighton4019]

@@MMOLibrary Just wanted to let you know.

[@pspirit1459]

gunner gud

[@MMOLibrary]

rofl, in 13 years never quite got into it

[@xGinZero]

I don't think it's pay to win, there's nothing to compete anyway plus people who spent can only go about 10 to 15% more powerful than the rest which is not a huge gap.

[@MMOLibrary]

i respect your opinion of course. but it is pay to win. yeah 10 percent bonus is what u can get off support scratch caps. but thats 10 percent x4. 3 units and a weapon, thats 40 percent.

[@MMOLibrary]

also it dosent matter how much. if u can just buy all ur gear wich u can. thats pay to win. advantage or not.

[@xGinZero]

@@MMOLibrary everyone has access to LC augments right? Having full LC augments on your gears is good enough to be with everyone else. But hey, if you feel bad in the game because others get higher power than yours then yeah, go ahead and feel bad, so far I know no one in the game that felt like a loser, so who is winning?~

[@MMOLibrary]

its not like it matters anyway cause this isnt a solo game most stuff is done in a group so really you definitly dont need it. but as a person with more that 10k hours on pso2, i know what it means when a person who is 20 hours in can come swipe a credit card and be the same power or higer than you. thats called pay to win. i get how u feel i really do its not a competitive game. but pay to win is pay to win. good enough to play with everyone else or not.@@xGinZero

[@williamkendrick]

ummm... yeah the original pso2 is included, and its super in depth.. and i never needed any of those so called charts he is claiming he needed. in addition, y ou can earn tons of Star Gems in teh old game, and take them into pso2ngs.. just fyi. i like ngs, but i still love pso2 og. so i go back and forth... i've got my tier 10's in ngs, and a tier 11 is coming out.. blahblah.. there way more options to make n-meseta than you listed, and we're already up to chapter 6 right now so... i uhh.. i'm sorry you didn't like the game but i do, and i feel the gameplay of ngs is superior to og, but the story, feel, and difficulty spikes in pso2 og give it the advantage.. everything feels so much easier in ngs, but thats because everything IS easier, technically. once you get lux halphinale and a few other boosters on a flugel or other star ten weapon... you're pretty set, mostly... ofc to get lux halphinale.. you're coming off 100 million for 100% chance.. too many morons instead opt for just trying each 10% chance piece till it sticks.. but me... i figured out quick you can farm ingredients for halpahinale, take those and build lux.. soooo.. save up for your 10 Star gear, use event gear until then, b uy some AC.. i mean if you're not poor, and you can go slow and get plenty out of this game.. go fast, and you sound like... you. you'd think someone who came from the original pso2 you'd know to pave yourself, but.. i guess not i do admit i miss the live concerts, the comraderie withi your homies, but i assure you the game isn't dead, they are making content, and you need a bit more patience.. or you know.. go play another game for awile till there's enough for you to sink your teeth into... sounds like user error to me.

[@MMOLibrary]

sorry friend but you dont know what thehell your talking about and from the comments you made about pso2 i doubt you ever played it. no offense but i was playing that game when you probably never even heard of it and you sound pretty triggered. it makes me smile. lol thx for the comment but maybe go comment on a game where u know what ur talking about. a noob cant give me any information about a game i have more than 28k hours in (pso2) NOR ngs wich i have more than 15k hours in. cheers thx for the video engagement.

[@MrSuperbadr]

I played since the 2012 open beta on JP servers, i quit two months ago, nowadays i infiltrate ngs communities to laugh at people still playing. Just like with pokemon fans, if you're still paying with your time and money, you fully deserve the disrespect.

[@MMOLibrary]

MY BROTHER RIGHT HERE i was there as well in beta on jp> ship2 Destrezza: Character names "honesty" "Knives Lumiere " "Wyper Etoile"

[@Nimrod336]

...the pso players didnt like psu..

[@MMOLibrary]

who are you to speak for us? who even are you? dont talk about things ur not a part of, maybe stick to ur fighting games.

[@o_mighty_thunder]

Here's the tl;dr to save you all 53 minutes Just don't download it or play it, it's dead and it stinks. +5k hrs of gameplay and no, I have not enjoyed any of that time

[@MMOLibrary]

that isnt really large amount of play time but i hear u lol

[@o_mighty_thunder]

@@MMOLibrary 5000 hrs isn't a lot to *you* What does the hours spent matter? This is the same community elitism that will keep the next iteration of this franchise in Japan.

[@o_mighty_thunder]

Oh sorry, you probably have an extra 20k hours of lobby-ratting and doing nothing I forgot which game we're playing, my apologies! My playtime that was spent actually playing the game pales highly in comparison to your superior idling and drama-mongering, Mr. More-Hours-Than-Thou

[@MMOLibrary]

@@o_mighty_thunder whoops looks like i triggered em lol

[@MMOLibrary]

@@o_mighty_thunder dont feel so down about that mate i didnt mean anything by it lol really. these things happen when some one plays a game for about 10 more years that you i really didnt mean to offend.