Phantom tips over on landing? If you're doing CSC to stop the motors, you shouldn't!

If your drone tends to tip over on landing just at the point you're shutting the motors down it might be down to how you're doing it. If you're shutting down the same way as you start up, time for a change!
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My "On the Kitchen Table" videos are mainly aimed at newcomers to multirotors, quadcopters, drones and UAVs, particularly to the DJI product range, and the Phantom line in particular. I have how to's, product reviews, tips, tricks, hints and information for beginners and those in the early stages of the hobby. I film "on the kitchen table" to show people that, like me, you don't need a workshop and an array of specialist equipment and years of experience to get started and progress with flying these amazing aircraft and enjoying making great aerial videos and stills. So if you have bought, or are thinking of buying, a DJI Phantom 3, Phantom 2, Phantom 2 Vision or Vision+ or Plus, Inspire 1 or even building your own DJI Flamewheel F450 or F550, or considering the Lily, 3DR Solo, Yuneec or more then you too can do it... on the kitchen table!

[@BobDiaz123]

I can't understand why 3 people would dislike this video. It provides a simple tip that new users need to know.

[@paulh71]

Fat fingers using an iPad mini or iPhone/smartphone maybe, icons too close together. Must admit I've inadvertently done it myself.

[@paulclarke7696]

Perfect Video - Totally have been having this happen to me lately... and my props take a beating... Remembered this info the other day - totally a Great tip.

[@simistef]

As always, great tips Simon !

[@djallegar]

Thanks from me as well! I was incredibly frustrated and you helped shed some much needed light. Liked and subscribed..!

[@trinibumblebee]

Your videos are always informational and chock full of great tips and tricks. Thank your your help and knowledge.

[@Womoman123]

Keep up the brilliant work, Simon, great information😀👌🏻

[@daveplusone2437]

Been doing the CSC method for ages, this is so much better! I feel like a twit. Thanks for the video!

[@ASRouse]

Thank you! I always have this problem and it's nice to see an alternate option.

[@reedysbarbershop]

Great tip Mate! Thanks so much for your expertise.

[@MrYayoperez]

Amazing and useful notes. Thank you. You're awesome! I was tipping my Phantom many times. Perfect video.

[@Totally3media66]

Cheers Simon.Downloaded fine. Thanks

[@Afterburner]

I appreciate this video and it explains a few things I saw on my Phantom 1 - yes... it is ancient, but still flies, - I have stuck to the throttle down as a standard procedure as a result and it works beautifully. Thank you.

[@johndoyle4723]

Thanks like others have commented I always hand catch, but when I used to land I just did the 3 sec left stick hold down, never even thought about doing a CSC. Off topic just did an upgrade of the motors and ESCs,as per your video which I watched after I had done the upgrade,so far very good. My reason for the upgrade was an unexplained fall from the sky, and after extensive review of the video and other flight statistics I diagnosed a faulty ESC/motor,I had lost confidence so replaced the lot.Keep up the good work,thanks.

[@ziggyzbeak]

I knew this but thank you for your time and caring for others.

[@notny41]

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO!!!! I was tilting on every shut-down - very scary. This is bound to help me 1000%

[@JeffSibelius]

So many people are entering this hobby every day, it never hurts to put up a video like this to address things that most experienced pilots know. This is a good video for every new DJI owner to watch.

[@gilsanders8448]

Fantastic instructional video. Very good info as I will be buying a standard this black friday. Thank you.

[@stephen1991]

Another great video. I've always hand caught my FC40 and plan on doing the same with my P3P (in transit). Quicker than maneuvering for a correct spot to land and you don't have to worry about a tip over.

[@johnw8927]

Nicely done

[@EastyUK]

Never done it this way. Just held down. Also preferred when as you said hand catching. Nice video.

[@Boomercougar]

man. thank you so much for posting this. such a huge help

[@DavidHarveyWV1]

Thanks for your video! I broke two propellers today doing that!

[@danielsanchez8797]

David Harvey same

[@freddypop6435]

Same

[@VantasticOdyssey]

Yes, I followed instructions and did this, and so now I just do as you just described. I wish I had saw this earlier

[@peterfigueroa8807]

Great tip, thank you!

[@moreapropos]

Thanks so much for posting this. Very helpful.

[@iemg7682]

Thanks for making this. I made this mistake twice because I believed the Quick Start Manual and performed the CSC to land. Then as I was at a convention watching other pilots I saw they were all just pulling down, and it was an "aha!" moment. No crashes since.

[@boltfan12]

Well this explains my crazy landings. Left stick it is for me. Thanks!!!

[@robernisaiah]

this is what i'm looking for, thanks!

[@bobbyworldwide]

Great video once again

[@Mike......................]

That happens to me a few weeks ago. I don't really knew why, but I already taught about something like this. Since that every time I let it land automatically. But thanks, now I know how to do it right.😊👍

[@jm3231]

So helpful. Thanks heaps!

[@inspirationmediatube]

cool tip, I wasn't aware of that...but this is a big help

[@baldusfilm5148]

Very useful info! Cheers mate :)

[@rogerpowell3542]

I;ve been hand landing just because of this issue, motors reving up as you land, doing the CSC thing, This is a Great tip I will use for now on, Thanks so much!

[@lorinhughes]

Thanks, great video.

[@latin95]

Thanks mate !! It did help me !

[@SuperLefty2000]

I didn't know you could use both throttles. In Phantom 4 user manual it says bring the left throttle all the way down and hold 3 seconds to shut the motors off.

[@TheChrisjge]

Great advice once again..

[@MikeSpille]

Thank you! I was having that issue.

[@christianbeck7375]

really appreciate this, i was having this issue so i started auto landing which can be tricky. Thanks

[@superswag3252]

Nice tip !

[@ericwang6641]

very nice video

[@michaelpatrickcole5959]

Excellent video... I have had that issue and now I know what to do! Cheers :)

[@autopumpprod]

Thanks for this! I didn't give this drone enough credit for knowing when it's still in the air and when it's not. I've held the left stick down to bring the drone straight downward while I was flying plenty of times, and it never shut off. Now I know, and I can stop flipping the dang thing over!!

[@TechforToastmasters]

I tipped over the Vision+ twice, and then just decided to switch to the 'hand-holding and switching off' technique. When I got the P3, I just continued with that tradition. But this is what I will try now, as hand-holding always has its risk. Thanks.

[@polymexdf69]

Thanks A lot I will try this

[@FuckPedophileBiden]

Great tip! Subscribed. : )

[@pakobianco]

Thanks a lot!!! It happened to me today and I'm wondering if there was another way! Cheers!

[@moraystiven7869]

Thankyou very useful

[@bigmac3602]

Thank you. Very helpful. I got one for Christmas and was doing it wrong.

[@CroftyOriginal]

Thank you for the video, helped me alot =)

[@markennes5208]

Very useful and informative video. Thanks! Let's not forget that this hobby is in its infant stages relative to its potential, meaning there are likely TONS of noobs (like myself) who find vids like this useful. So just to be clear, holding the throttle stick down for 2+ secs while on the ground or while holding the phantom will shut the motors off. But while in flight, holding the throttle stick down will NOT shut the motors off because the Phantom will "sense" that it is lowering. And this "sense", apparently, is not due to a change in elevation due to GPS or a change in elevation due to barometric pressure. The "sense" is within the craft's own sensors. So it doesn't matter whether one is in GPS mode, Atti mode, or Naza M Manual mode. I hope I got this right.

[@robertsea7115]

thanks a lot! that's really useful!

[@robertsea7115]

And yes.... subscribed

[@337lee33]

Thanks bro

[@pommieford]

Thanks mate. Sick of those flip overs on landing! Glad you're enjoying a good Aussie drop of red (-:

[@outdoorslifestyle2900]

wish I had watched this video yesterday 😞 lol was wondering why it starting dragging itself along the floor. plus it was my first flight and luckily no damage and lives to fly another day. Great vids ATB steve

[@sgtcannaboid]

Thank you! Just got my p3standard yesterday and felt bad when I landed it hard due to the sticks together technique.

[@rcgamer4524]

I'm saving up for one of these, can't wait to get one :-)

[@tommylaudani1378]

RC Dean phantom 3 is going for 414 on Amazon but the price is constantly changing

[@victorsvidss]

P3S best deal

[@ColoradoBigfoot]

thank you sir about to take my first flight!

[@ruger.22]

I just pull the throttle down. I always do it dis way it's common sense. Love ur vids.

[@MrAde1b]

good job!!

[@MrAde1b]

great vids bud. i think i have watched all your phantom 3 vids. owned my p3 for 3 weeks. Great fun

[@moreapropos]

This should be a Public Service Announcement. So true!!

[@oliverdoelling319]

That really help. since now i just use autolanding but if ur low on Batterie this is not the best way

[@GethinColes]

awesome!

[@karlell]

cheers for the tip I did the csc stop and mine did tip nearly lost 2 blades but brought it back up just in time

[@edgarclatza6898]

Oh dude, I should've watched before! I had my first tipped over on my first attempt to fly. Pretty scary when you are a beginner

[@chrismid259]

Just performed my first flight and the first thing I noticed was when landing, using the user manual advice (CSC) caused the Phantom to tip slightly. This video certainly helps - will give it a go next time I land.

[@RCinginSC]

had the same thing happen with my Tovsto V2. It functions the same way. I figured out what I did wrong but good to get an explanation as to why. Although mine goes to idle speed when throttle is held straight down for a couple seconds with no downward movement. Then you can do a shut down or wait 10 secs and it will shut down automatically.

[@robfraley4210]

Thanks, I have done that a few times now I hand catch it..!

[@zotar9279]

Thanks for the tip. Making that CSC movement when landing on a windy day and my phantom made a somersault and broke 3 propellers and somehow the receiver inside it. Won't be doing it anymore.

[@gaithshalan]

Thanks

[@NotoriousoneRC]

Thanks for this video.. My Phantom 3 came with a small quick start guide, no real manual at all. It didn't explain anything about proper landing procedure, and as soon as I would land I would try to shut down the motors by CSC and twice almost had a tipover .. Then I thought this cant be right and looked it up here.. All the manual had to say was "keep holding the throttle stick down after touchdown for 3 seconds to shutdown motors" The funny thing is I think many people don't know this and have had dangerous attempted landings, so they want to hand catch it instead of landing, that's actually the most dangerous thing in my opinion. DJI needs to improve their manuals..

[@AcCeSsDeNiEd65]

Darin, like you, I am annoyed that dji didn't print out the full manual. The quick start didn't even state there was a full manual was available on their website. I could have avoided a lot of pain otherwise.

[@drewcunningham2]

thanks for that tip !!!......for the past three years i have been using the csc method with no problems until the last month or so....for the last month it was tipping over every time i tried this shutting down sequence. It h had worked so perfectly for me for the longest time....i just couldn't understand for the life of me what was all of a sudden different ???....i took the props off and noticed that one side raced while the other went off hence the difference in balance and the subsequent tip over....i started to catch it for a bit which was a hassle and i think at times a little dangerous so anyway, i thank you for your tip.....it will greatly reduce my prop budget...cheers !!

[@gaithshalan]

Nice

[@larryfox2731]

Learned this technique by accident this weekend. It IS the only way I would shut down upon landing from now forward.

[@techtitanuk5609]

I use the left stick down to but I got a tip over today. I'm gonna buy either prop guards or some type of landing gear/grip thing until I become a landing master.

[@JohnDouqh]

Are you using DJI and/or balanced props? I was using some aftermarket props, I don't think they were very well balanced and I was having some landing problems but after switching to DJI props have not had that problem. Also be sure the ground is level and be weary of wind.

[@techtitanuk5609]

John Dough just the standard props. I did land on boggy land tbf.

[@WhiteWolfMedia]

Thanks you deserve that glass of wine 🍷

[@alainarchambault2331]

Thanks for the tip. I was preferring hand catching after two tip overs. But then what if I wanted to land where I'm not? So, gonna practice this.

[@Rondawwg]

I've had 2 tip overs on my last 2 flights... ( Luckily on grass). Think I'll get some prop guards to be on the safe side and your throttle only stick down from now on. Thanks!

[@markbutler9046]

Good info..I was wondering why my drone tipped over on landings

Great information for the newbies! I always hand catch. Thanks for sharing Simon - I'm sure there will be a lot of newbies with DJI new DJI Phanton 3 standard coming out on the 10th :-)

[@El-Tel63-Terry.]

Hand catch every time 👍

[@DocCasanova]

Shaun Matthews I hand catch a lot. Unfortunately, I've recently had a gimbal break after a tree encounter. I have to say I think the abundance of hand catches might have helped weaken the gimbal before the ultimate break. There is still significant drone stress on a hand catch. Go really easy on the hand catches if you want to increase the life of your stock gimbal.

Thanks for the advice David.

[@ScotiaQuad1]

+David Ison I'm very intrigued as to how you perform your hand catches having read that, for me it's simply: 1 - hover phantom within arms reach 2 - grip one of the legs 3 - stop motors with throttle stick which as far as I can see, can never put anywhere near as much stress on the gimbal as even the softest landing, which will always involve an impact no matter how small, while a hand catch has none, at least, not in any way I can personally concieve of safely performing one.

[@DescubreOaxacaMexico]

it happened with my P3, after desbalanced the blade forced stopped full at the ground and motor overheated in two seconds sound like a loud loud scream, i smell burned cables or something like that, but worked fine and no error appears, CSC sucks! thank for the tip, it worked for me, and hand catch too.

[@DescubreOaxacaMexico]

Mine works as well after all, sorry for your rotors bro! I´m using the hand catch and left stick down for double precaution

[@ponymacmac]

Great video and demonstration. This is a really useful tip to know, and I don't know why DJI didn't recommend this way to manually land and shut off the motor. I've tried the CSC method and tipped over my Phantom 3 and scratched the propellers :-( Thank you for the video!

[@BowzerTowboats]

You are absolutely correct sir mine behaves the exact same way. Thanks. BTW Where did you get the brace/lens cap I want one.

[@Montanan]

Yes, I had the same problem with near disastrous results. I gave up on the CSC and went to the other method of simply holding the "throttle" all the way down for 2-3 seconds. However, it didn't work the first time I tried it. Turns out the confusion rested on the definition of "throttle." To me, the throttle makes it go faster or slower. That would be the right hand stick. The left hand stick, which I now know the manual is referring to as the "throttle" makes the unit go up or down or rotate on its axis. Now that I have waded through the confusion, no further problems.

[@dfrontierit2114]

Thank you...i had an accident few hours ago...since it was going in for a crash landing and i tried to catch it since i did not know how to stop...got badlly injured. my fingers

[@308savageshooter]

Agreed!

[@EXpressOGGaming]

That's how i always stop mine is just holding the left joystick down, Amazing when you read the little book they give you, you learn lots lol

[@diecharleyschote6336]

that wine you drank i drank that too and it was amazing

[@brooksberdeen9307]

What type of gimbal clamp was that?

[@Vincentvuoto]

Simon, thanks for the great vids. I have a question for you? Have you ever experienced a tip over on engine start? I recently had my Phantom 3 Pro tip backwards and sustain a prop strike. I had just landed with the nose into the wind and shut the motors. Then, I started them again, it tipped backwards. The wind was about 10mph. I think as the motors start, there is that spool up before they go to idle and that extra lift plus a small wind gust tipped it backwards.

[@scoffofthelye4220]

GREAT TUTORIALS !! Will you hold your phantom off the table and hold the throttle down to shut off the motors. This will prove that they wont shut down in flight as the aircraft should detect that it is not on the ground. I hope that makes sense ? Cheers Paul.

[@pauldaisey836]

Thank you! On my 4th set of props....I assume same for 3 advanced?

[@welshray1]

Only got mine yesterday :-) tidy bit of kit, I noticed that my controller has a notch that holds the throttle in the full off position, then once it shuts down, i just give it a tap and it springs back to centre...

[@steves9054]

Great information, should have watched before drone attacked my leg.

[@gavejoke]

Thank u very much it is very helpful Is this will work with ph4 ? Why dji isn't making this method the default one rather than csc method ?

[@andyphipps01]

Hey mate what was the link to the video about hand catching?

[@chmith27]

thanks so much! (and you can do a csc with one hand, but it's not advisable and now i don't have to anymore lol)

[@fredguernsey2732]

Great videos ! What is the difference between pulling the throttle (left stick down) and the same stick down and in to the bottom right - both seem to do the same thing. I have 3 Advanced and even in very calm days the landing in auto mode; the drone shakes a bit when landing and I can see some prop damage.

[@canispeaktodave]

I'm new to the phantom drone. I've only used the throttle down. I'm surprised people use the engines off movement. I'm also surprised the engines off movement works when you are not landed. the amount of crashes caused by pushing both sticks in are shocking. I think Dji need to add an engines off button as unlikely as it is, being able to preform that manuvore in flight is a little bit of an oversight.

[@dickfantastic7908]

Why would any pilot pull the sticks in like this during flight? Think about the characteristics of it for a second, full downward yaw to the right putting it into a spin while trying to pitch it down and to the left. It's called the nausea shot I guess...