Phaser Shootout Part 1 - About the difference between MXR and Electro Harmonix stlye phasers

[@ToJam14]

0/10 you didn't turn them all on at once

[@ArianaSarahaFlightBehavior]

😂

[@HorizonMelt]

Like the porridge in the middle to Goldilocks, this video was just right. It was simple but not simplified. It gave me all the information I needed but didn't exhaust me having to sort out a flood of details. I love the commentary on the bottom and I liked how the back-and-forth comparisons were done. I wasn't put through the obligatory 'history of the pedal maker' at the beginning nor tempted to fast forward through monologues and nonsense. After watching this video I felt like I didn't need to watch any more during my search to see whether or not I was going to buy the Bad Stone. Also, the guitar playing was right for demonstrating the pedal and not overindulgent noodling.

[@jacktadash]

The Bad Stone is God Tier

[@SunnyBear]

Thanks for a great comparison, I really like that you went back and forth so many times to really show their differences.

[@goshhowhorrible8340]

I 2nd this. Thanks for an informative display

[@good_king_guitarman1334]

Great video man, you made it really easy to hear the difference by playing such a simple phrase. I also liked that you didn't talk, the subtitles allowed you to communicate with us without interrupting the sound demo. Champion effort!

[@scottoleson1997]

This really helped me make the decision to not go for the orange ones. Thanks a lot!

[@MadebyMiike]

You are welcome Scott!

[@all_mesa_man922]

I don't know why I laughed so hard

[@emilebreseghello3175]

I think electro harmonix did better, i also think they're one of the two best brands, with dunlop

[@obody-sl9np]

@@emilebreseghello3175 nah not really

[@CRUASSANFAN]

@@emilebreseghello3175 brands does not matter really, they all have shitty products

[@ArianaSarahaFlightBehavior]

I’ve been trying out the MXR Phase 95, which has the Phase 90 sound, plus the Phase 45 sound (more subtle) and a “script” button ~ allows for quite a lot more flexibility than the Phase 90! I quite like it. But I am tempted to try the Small Stone, as I would you prefer a pedal without the volume boost. But it’ll depend ultimately on tone - I’m willing to live with a small volume boost if I like the tone better... Oh, and I too would have loved to have seen this demo with the speed on quite slower - those faster speeds make me a little seasick... 😂

[@michaelcraig9449]

RALPH!

[@alphanumeric1529]

Bro, just getting back into guitar based music, used to play bass, never guitar, playing guitar now, so doing some research on some pedals. There are endless videos of pedals, but this right here was the most illuminating of ANY of them. Seriously. There are serious pedal channels that don't even come close to the simplicity and straightforwarness of this vid. Thanks for this. This is the first vid of yours, I hope you haven't stopped making videos. And if you have, get back on it and crank some vids! Also 720p would be nice. HERO

[@MadebyMiike]

Haha thanks Alpha, really appreciate the feedback! And welcome back to guitar music!!

[@nonpoint666rocks]

this might actually simplify things too much, when I compared the MXR phase 90 my self in a store with the Bad Stone it didn't sound so much like the comparison here... I ended up buying the bad stone cause it sounded more subtle and didn't boost the original signal, i think you can't really know what you like better until you play it yourself.

[@darrylarnold5266]

@@MadebyMiike ⅕

[@esteban4076]

Tame impala was here

[@gavvino1]

Good comparison. Only thing is you didn't show the manual mode of the Bad Stone, which in my opinion is its coolest feature. It can give you some cool parked wah sounds.

[@briguyhackins]

Just picked up a Bad stone for $45 USD (60 CDN) I had the original and it sounds super close. Love the flexibility and manual control

[@taunoctua245]

I would probably take them all, because I like the phase sound at different rates and placements. Yes, 4 aught to do it.

[@BenjaminHSmith]

Would have been nice to see some examples where the speed wasn’t dimed.

[@ld8341]

Even 12 o'clock would have helped.

[@totallyunmemorable]

@@ld8341 YES, the midrange speeds always get neglected, it's always too fast or too slow.

[@kevinkinnu341]

All the fast speeds ridiculous

[@jakollee]

Very nice comparison. I prefer the sound of the MXR to the EHX.

[@damarmar1001]

small stone sounds real great

[@Martin_Tudela_Orsi]

I have the Mxr Phase 90 script w/ led. It's a little noisy and boost the signal too, but I love it. Sounds very warm and subtle.

[@sexyguitarboy69]

WTF .... why are you using top speed settings all the time? No one would ever use a phaser at max rate! We'd appreciate to hear some slow settings.

[@CaptainRaab]

Exactly

[@Musicislife668]

Korn does lol

[@kevinkinnu341]

​@@Musicislife668 LoL Great for that nightmare sound they were so fond of

[@GabrielNacu]

Really helpful video years later! :)

[@papasight7365]

And the V1 and V3 Russian full size Small Stones have more depth and phasing that all of the modern pedals, but for a vintage price now. If you've heard the BiPhase pedals from Mutron, they are in that category.

[@davebroad642]

The Bad Stone is a monster of a phaser, dialed in right with a good power supply.

[@aainsley19]

I wouldn’t say the bad Stone is more sophisticated, it just has more stages (6 compared to the small stone’s 4). So it just makes the effect a bit more intense and less subtle

[@Strangel72]

It is more sophisticated because it has more controls and features.

[@dankov8566]

IMO, Small Stones have a better low phase sound while Phase 90s sound better at higher speeds.

[@kinochdotcom]

I really like that MXR

[@t33nBB]

I had phase 90 and boss ph3. Sold both of them only because mxr was boosting the volume and boss was decreasing it. Now i have small stone and don't have any problems with volume. It sounds very similar to phase 90, maybe a bit warmer. It's great on clean and overdriven sound. Mxr is also great souding, brighter and really shines on distortion. Both great classic sounds. Boss is much more modern with few modes for those who like to play with the knobs.

[@kevinmalone8903]

You can do a quick, easy mod to the MXR that takes away the volume bump. Just clip off a resistor, I think it's C-22 or something. There's tutorials online. Takes 5 min. Best phasor for the $

[@denofearthundertheeverlast5138]

I like the EH just because of no volume boost like the MXR, I had the MXR Micro Flanger and got rid of it because of that very same "problem" its too loud and you cant control the mix ...its just BOOM in your face , MXR really should have thought this through better....I'm buying the EH Bad Stone

[@stevetushar]

Nice video man! I have a lot of EHX pedals and the Stones have a similar tone to other EHX things I already own so I think I will go with the MXR to have a different color completely on my board to choose from. ;-

[@a.valmaggimaggival8423]

Thanks for the video. I preferred the Small Stone. It seems to knead less.

[@UnitNo.2]

I really like my EHX bad stone. Most of my pedals are EHX to be honest and they are all great.

[@jacktadash]

Bad stone is one of my favourite pedals. Like I have it on 90% of the time lol.

[@nazarenkodenys]

Clear comparison. Thank you!

[@davidbuzzin426]

Small stone #1

[@johnjacobsen1915]

agree

[@alelollipop1903]

thanks, great demo

[@tellstarrsixtwo7120]

Wonder if that toggle switch on the Mooer is a stage 2/4 one, or just some sort of filter. Seems that affordable 2 stage phasers are hard to find :D

[@JosefRosam]

the mooer was distorting your signal as well

[@sammonaco5400]

The bad stone seems to have more sound options.you can set the manual mode to make it sound like your wha pedal in certain positions also you can control the effects better but I wish Ehx would address thier switches they are down right noise when switching on and off the effect

[@RandyFricke]

I had an MXR Phase 90 but it was before I figured out buffering so it was quite the tone sucker. Nice, plush sweep but the tone suck made it not to useful. I have an EHX Small Stone Nano which is true bypass and I absolutely love it. I have 10 pedal boards so I have different pedals all over each one. Believe it of not some of the budget pedals are very decent. I have a few of the KMISE vintage phasers and they very good. Not Phase 90-ish exactly but with a character of their own.

[@donwhitesel12]

A whole video of phasers with the speed dimed is rather pointless! It would be nice to hear more of what each one can really do.

[@GabrielVelasco]

The Phase 90 and the Small Stone are both four stage phase shifters. The Mooer is emulating the Phase 90, so it's probably also a four stage phase shifter. The Bad Stone is a six stage phase shifter like the MXR Phase 100. So, it's actually out of place in this demo.

[@iamamish]

It's...out of phase

[@iamamish]

probably should be phased out of future videos

[@iamamish]

though maybe including one that doesn't belong is an experiment - OP is going through a phase

[@ThatHeadbandGuy]

@@iamamish - I thoroughly enjoyed these replies. 😏

[@timmikhailouski8961]

Mooer looks more like MXR 95, which has 2 options - MXR 90 and MXR 45. Modern mode on Mooer is MXR 45, that's why it sound less deep than MXR 90

[@StickmanCyclops]

MXR isn't a winner on most pedals, too pricey and too few knobs (although I do recommend checking out the lesser known '78 Distortion for a great distortion tone). But they nail it on this one. It's all you need, and you get that epic Smashing Pumpkins with the speed turned all the way to the left. Phase 90, baby! Small Stone gets 2nd place, and forget that Mooer crap.

[@nitegoat1369]

I own a Phase 90 (block) and it slightly boosts my volume, but I love the sound of its phaser effect. I like the sound of the Small Stone Nano's pahsser effect, but it seems to leave a touch of the dry signal through. If I can find one used, for cheap, I might have to give it a try.

[@tyueda7322]

I wanna hear the bad stone all the way down on all knobs please somebody do this.

[@obody-sl9np]

Yeah me too

[@KyOlsen]

Me three

[@anacoreta9381]

Its an interesting demo but you focused too much on the orange side and missed the great potential of the silver side. You didnt explore the lower speeds and the colour switch of the Small Stone, that is where it excells (the original vintage was way better anyway), and never tested the parking capabilities of the manual pot of the Bad Stone, that is the real Ace of an otherwise too aggressive pedal that has lost the tone derby with its lil Small Stone brother.

[@12groney]

What about the dirty channel which is what players were using it for when they were popular? EVH, Roger Fischer from Heart, Thin Lizzy and many more.

[@Deeplycloseted435]

I have a MXR Phase 90 EVH, which is great for some things, but the big ass Fooger Phaser is one my all time favorites. Its probably the least expensive Fooger pedal, I think I got mine $185 2nd hand. Mono or stereo, drive knob, mix knob, 6 or 12 stage, resonance knob, you cam control the sweep amount, and the LFO can go from .01Hz-250Hz. I’ve had and sold other fooger pedals but this one stays.

[@clausjungling594]

very helpful. thanks!

[@DolemiteSammich]

great vid thanks!

[@tasothdevil01]

nice review!

[@MadebyMiike]

+Chia-Hui Chang Thank you, that means a lot to me!! :-)

[@luisgoregonzalez7394]

Nice

[@MadebyMiike]

Thanks man!

[@luissilva9133]

like them all :D

[@Sandman60077]

MXR sounded the best

[@michaelcraig9449]

How much is the Bad Stone or Small Stone? Where is MXR stuff made?

[@BluesnG]

the bad stone is a rally bad stone.

[@cristobaldiaz9610]

Lunar Phaser or Joyo Vintage Phaser sounds better for me.

[@sherwinrocks5653]

the MXR of course is the brand, but who needs too much of a phaser, I don't think mooer is in no competition so as the other brands

[@Mausfm]

I bought the small stone a While ago but for me it sounds a bit to aggressiv... I want it to be more subtle and the Feedback knob doesnt seem to do anything :(

[@MadebyMiike]

Hmm, sounds if you need a phaser with a level/depth/wet knob, where you can adjust how much phasing you actually want.

[@hammill444]

The small stone does not have a feedback knob.

[@Samizsm23]

hammill444 it does the small stone doesn't

[@zombiemosher1139]

You need to read Lars post again. :D REPLY

[@room101band8]

You need to quit worrying about phaser and practice your double bass pedal lars

[@layugularreggae9437]

Hello, I have a doubt since I read on a web page a comment that says that the mooer ninety orange has lost volume and can not be used in a chain of effects to play live, is this true? Greetings from Argentina.

[@MadebyMiike]

That is definitely not true! In 2 weeks or so I will upload a shootout of the MXR Phase 95 vs. MXR EVH Phase 90 vs. Mooer Ninety, and I will show how much of volume boost or drop there is on these pedals! Stay tuned!

[@gennarotrezza6956]

AllaboutafriendONLINE p

[@simonbe]

0:25 Die gitarre ist so verstimmt, dass alles weiter kein sinn macht.

[@tonycaldron6886]

This demo is misleading. The small stone sounds much more intense when you engage the color switch. Strange choice to ignore that feature

[@Mist_R]

don't these pedals affect each others sound since they are all connected this way?

[@ignaciogobet605]

Depends on whether they have true bypass or not. If they do, they shouldn't

[@MarkLeonTanner]

Of course... Plug them into a looper to isolate them, and they sound completely different...

[@charlesrivers2309]

Uh...why you got the demo on that setting? That's not what these pedals do best. Most guitarists don't know how to use these pedals in a subtle nature.

[@pablorascado]

EXELLENT

[@hansneervoort6167]

Why the high rates?

[@Ojas_PodCast_CMP]

Pity that you only test the fast rate sound …

[@baron7012]

At least I know why bad stone had that name.

[@Julian-el3fd]

Vaya manera más cutre de utilizar un Phaser.

[@tdawgmaximus8160]

you can play different riffs in a demo, ya know

[@kasperpauley6588]

come on mate get in tune before switching any pedals on how can you let that pass

[@ottolehmann5286]

sounds in tune to me

[@spindrift2009]

@@ottolehmann5286 you have bad hearing

[@TrixiLovesYou]

Tune your guitar.

[@albecenex4890]

terrible demo. I've never see and ear anyone use phaser with control ever at 3 or more (o clock)

[@SunnyBear]

Albe Cenex Instead of saying ”terrible demo” you can say ”I would have liked to hear them with a more subtle effect”. Just because a comparison doesn’t do exactly what you were looking for doesn’t make it terrible, mate. :) There’s no need for unnecessary negativity.

[@nothingintheclouds]

Pink floyd song any colour you like using phase 90 at highest control

[@albecenex4890]

@@SunnyBear I would say that to evaluate and make a comparison you should make the pedals work in at least 2 or 3 different control positions. it may turn out that a pedal sounds better at full speed but sounds bad with the speed control turned off. how do we know if this demo doesn't look at it? And anyway in the many years that I have watched demos of any kind of pedals it had never happened to me to see one where the control pot does not move. the only reason to do a demo like this can be just the banal curiosity to know which of the 4 runs faster on the effect. does it seem useful to you?