Hercules (Goodtimes) - Phelous

[@ZekeAxel]

Also Herakles means "Glory to Hera." and he was named by his mother that in order to appease the angry goddess. But Zeus naming him that is like. "Yo, Hera, I cheated again and I'm naming him after you."

[@flufflewarrior]

Jeez that makes the movie even worse xD Or more accurate on how likeable Zeus was

[@actionjackson4982]

The ultimate swerve!

[@redjirachi1]

I mean Hera never bothered Hermes and Perseus so maybe Zeus thought this'd appease her

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

Another fun fact about ancient Greece I learned recently: Kerberos (Cerberus) means "spotted." So, the terrifying lord of the underworld named his dog "Spot."

[@BloodrealmX]

And Odin named his eight-legged horse "Slippy" (Sleipnir).

[@TeryJones]

Hell that conjures images of a giant three headed hyena voiced by Whoopy Goldberg, Cheech Marin and Jim Cummings and I can't stop finding that hilarious.

[@DarknessIsTheTruth]

This cartoon did at least ONE thing right: They didn't arbitrarily make Hades the villain for no real reason.

[@Remythechef]

Which makes sense because everyone in this movie is the villain!

[@sherlocksmuuug6692]

+Nicholas Pirrelli The true moral of greek myths.

[@Lex-dw7ng]

Hades wasnt written as the villain in that movie. He just became that way when he was voiced by James Woods

[@ded9820]

Honestly Disney's Hades puts up with so much shit and idiots that he becomes the hero of the movie

[@kobaltsteel6418]

Deeth Irteen if anythimg, Hades is one of the least assy super powered character in mythology... though he still has jerkish qualities.

[@angbandsbane]

That old man can turn into water. Man's he's BEYOND completely useless now.

[@TheRoflcer]

He can turn into water, but he wasn't wet.

[@angbandsbane]

Isn't he wet by default then?

[@farenhaid13421]

@@TheRoflcer Water is wet genius XD

[@TheRoflcer]

@@farenhaid13421 That's the Older Mans greatest power though, he can turn to fire and not get burned, and turn to water and not get wet!

[@farenhaid13421]

@@TheRoflcer if you turn into the very thing that makes things wet them by default you are always wet, no argument here... he us beyond useless now.

[@FlameOfUdun96]

This movie is inaccurate...there are scenes where Zeus isn't fucking something

[@brandonlyon730]

Most of the gods are like anyway. It seems Hades is the only one of them that understands spouse loyalty and he only sees her for half the year.

[@TommyDeonauthsArchives]

Flame of Udun Just wait for the Dingo Pictures Hercules.

[@LaNoLaCola]

But wouldn't zeus' semen make everyone wet, and therefore useless?

[@SsnakeBite]

God, I hope that's a thing.

[@SsnakeBite]

Well, to make up for it, he's fucking WITH everyone.

[@samuelesalvatico7259]

did you know that in the myth Hercules burns himself to death to stop the agony caused by a poisoned tunic he weared and couldn't take off without ripping his own skin apart? Wish that was in the movie.

[@TryinaD]

This felt pretty much the same

[@theotherghostgirl337]

A good way to make Heracles more human would be to keep megara's death in the story, but have Heracles be framed, possibly even in a way that makes him doubt his sanity and wheither or not he's innocent. The trials are his punishment, because he's too well liked for his cousin to just execute him outright, and if he gives him an "easy" sentence then he'll be seen as week

[@painvillegaming4119]

His would they even kill the guy Let me remind he has LIFT IT THE DAMN SKY

[@roseofhybrids]

@@painvillegaming4119 in the myths, he died after having hydra venom get on his skin. This didn't kill him outright, but it was so painful that he decided to make a funeral pyre and throw himself on it.

[@painvillegaming4119]

@@roseofhybrids well yeah but where the hell would they get hydra venom there is a reason they send hercules of all people

[@dragonkeeper19600]

You just described the Dwayne Johnson version.

[@Vinny792]

@@painvillegaming4119I don’t know. Like mayb? from the hydra itself.

[@lopson8683]

So, rather than going through the 12 labours to seek forgiveness after he kills his wife and child in a blind rage, Hercules goes through them, to make up for his mothers death that wasn't even his fault?

[@jekblom123]

I think its implied that he was guilty for not being there to save his mother and does the labors to redeem himself, in this squeaky clean retelling of the story.

[@Ratciclefan]

Generic did you say the same thingas Sebastian Lopian or did he edit his comment only after you replied? Either way, I didn't know that.

[@heathercalun4919]

Right, because when you murder your wife in a homicidal rage, the best way to atone is to do a rodeo show, and use the same strength you used to kill your wife, to kill a bunch of animals. It's a dumb story no matter how you slice it.

[@marley7868]

@@heathercalun4919 I mean yes but it's dumb cause hera mind raped him into doing it also once again the goddess of family violates the sanctity of family out of spite

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

Yeah, how did that make any sense?

[@Zinervawyrm]

Hercules at the end: Yay, my cousin and I are best friends again, and I'm not jealous of him being king instead of me now, just like how I always wanted. King: Wait, didn't you want your mom to come back to life or something, and that's why you did all my chores…I mean those tasks I gave you? Herc: Who? King: Your mom, ya know, she was my aunt, I wanted her alive again too. She was the only one who knew how to make golden apple pie that was edible. Plus I miss her, don't you miss her too? Herc: I have no idea who you're even talking about.

[@seanakizuki]

Not in the myths. It just got worse!

[@SuperPeterok]

His cousin???

[@alicebthegachaweirdo8378]

@@SuperPeterokHis cousin Herc’s cousin is his cousin?

[@SuperPeterok]

@@alicebthegachaweirdo8378 cousinception

[@beebumm]

Megara's shoes are all wet. They're completely useless now!

[@markcobuzzi826]

...and so are her feet *Old Man throws disembodied pictures of her feet into the junkyard*

[@98953812]

HHHHHHEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

[@brandonlyon730]

Does this make Poseidon the god of uselessness.

[@TommyDeonauthsArchives]

beebumm Megara didn't need the water to become useless, because she never had a use in this movie!

[@slacknhash]

Not just her shoes, but her feet. That's why Hercules had to carry her in that last scene.

[@ClopinGirl64]

"Oh, well. It doesn't matter anyway." Atlas, the Eeyore of Greek Mythology! 😆

[@CaffeineDeprivation]

My thoughts exactly 😆

[@DonaldRilea]

Or the Grumpy Bear of Greek mythology, take your pick.

[@Tareltonlives]

No wonder he was okay with Perseus turning him into a mountain (in a different timeline story)

[@arbiter11171]

So what you're saying is.... Atlas shrugged?!

[@DonaldRilea]

As Colonel Bison, "Of course!!!"

[@hardlyliving]

The sudden line you dubbed for Hercules, "N is for Hercules!" had me cracking up so hard the first time I watched this review, and to this day I still keep thinking about that line

[@jonothanthrace1530]

For a second I was like "Is that a Hebrew letter for some reason?"

[@CelticMagician]

I laughed really hard when you pointed out that most film adaptations of Greek mythology tend to stray very far from the source material to have remotely likable characters, because it is so VERY true. Fantastic review as always, Phelous! I look forward to more.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

@DraculaCronqvist not exactly.

[@RaphBlade7]

Hercules: The Legendary Journeys, will always be greatest version of Hercules as it gave us the most likeable version of Hercules... and the even more awesome Xena, Warrior Princess. The Disney version is a close second, though it makes Hera Hercules' mother, cause Disney couldn't have Hercules be a bastard born of infidelity between a god & mortal.

[@heathercalun4919]

Yeah mythology nerds will argue with me about this. But I dunno. I still feel like the Greeks were space aliens. I get that different cultures have different social norms, and that back then the whole three-act-structure thing wasn't quite figured out. But so many Greek Myths, it's not just that things have cause and effect seemingly at random, but the morality sounds like something that would surface on r/amitheasshole

[@metalcoola]

Yet out of every god they could choose as villain, they usually choose Hades, who was actually one of more decent ones. :)

[@metalcoola]

Yet out of every god they could choose as villain, they usually choose Hades, who was actually one of more decent ones. :)

[@billuraral1870]

Fun fact: Hercules had a human fraternal twin, born of his mom's husband. He barely gets a passing mention in the myths, so he probably dies at some point before Herc kick-starts his hero career.

[@SuperPeterok]

Where can I find more information about him

[@andressigalat602]

@@SuperPeterok Look "Iphicles" in Google.

[@PKMN37]

"My journey for forgiveness is nearly over!" Forgiveness for what, exactly? In the original tale, Hercules goes on these missions as penance for what he did to his wife.

[@matthewmoran5297]

+PKMN37 Hell, in this version, Megara is alive while Hercules performs his tasks.

[@ilikethecokev2]

Forgiveness for being Hercules

[@elsie8757]

Maybe he thinks he should've prevented his mother's death somehow...?

[@traxthetrashwizard]

Bless my soul! Phelous' on the roll! Person of the week on every internet opinion poll!

[@sweetcinnamonpnchkin]

Crimson Trax What a pro! He can stop a show. Point him at a crappy video and we're talking SRO!

[@Tareltonlives]

He was a newbie, a zero, zero! Now he's a top hits! He's a hero! Here was a Canuck with his comedy shtick down pat From zero to hero in no time flat Zero to hero just like that!

[@mrdropkicker1]

Then he slaps his hand around a can of Braaaaaaaaad's Pepsi!

[@asalways1504]

With boot legs and parodies, our Phelan had cash to burn!

[@Tareltonlives]

And they slapped his face on every thumbnail- On Every feed!

[@Pipkiablo]

Can we get a version of the movie where it's just you redubbing the voices? It was funnier than the actual movie. Also fun fact: Some takes on Cerberus actually had a mane of snakes. It was believed the extra heads enabled him to look in all directions at once so no one would ever be able to sneak past him.

[@mastermarkus5307]

He's already a dog with three heads, which he can use to smell and hear as well as see. Giving him snake heads on top of that just seems OP.

[@Pipkiablo]

Greek mythology also gave us a creature that was part lion, part goat, and part snake that breaths fire and a giant ass serpent that grows more heads every time you cut one off. The ancient Greeks lived for overkill.

[@anikmonette2140]

Fallout Pewterschmidt I'd like that, but I don't think You Tube's obsession of mistreating the fair use act will let that one fly... Unless Phelous also alter the visuals? Or maybe just redubbing the whole thing will be enough to count as satire? Anyway, YT is already broken he definitely should try...😉

[@Pipkiablo]

If he did do that and post it on youtube, there's a chance that their algorithms don't really give a shit about a cheaply made Goodtimes movie. It's usually only stuff owned by companies with the money to sue them into oblivion like Viacom and Nintendo that get hit.

[@EagleTimberWolf]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who wants a full dub like this XD I was actually disappointed when it would revert back to Hercules' actual movie voice instead of the special ed voice Phelous used for him lmao Also, kinda funny you mention that because the first time I ever saw Cerberus in anything as a kid, he had snakes for tails - basically looked like a three-headed roid rage kitsune

[@TheAdorkableRJ]

Man, at least Disney's Hercules had some flaws like being clumsy with his strength and kind of socially awkward. There wasn't a lot to his character, but he was more likable and interesting to follow than this bland entitled tool.

[@jackhummer8344]

Disney's Hercules also still had to work for his skills.

[@SuperPeterok]

This is a childhood classic. Lay off a bit.

[@ShadeMeadows]

He had an Arc from Relatable, to Jerk to Likable~

[@williambragg6171]

Plus he has doubts that he would ever live up to what his father expected of him, and instead chose happiness with the woman he loves

[@gracekim1998]

@@SuperPeterok you’re blind by nostalgia. Everything can be criticised. If you can’t handle that shit, get out

[@logansheffield8641]

I don't think I'll ever stop loving "huh hah...n is for Hercules!"

[@koenvandamme6901]

If Hercules doesn't throw a bear into space in this movie, I'm going to be pissed.

[@WakoDoodle]

Koen Van Damme give me a week in flash. Ill make your dream come true.

[@NodDisciple1]

Psycho Doodle Plz do it.

[@rebornkusabi7264]

Or clean out a stable by throwing a bolder into the sea and causing a wave of water to flood the stable.

[@Alejandroigarabide]

I didn't get the reference. Did Hercules throw a bear out of the world in another movie?

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

Lou Ferrigno's Hercules.

[@Rolld20]

Actually Herc's mother was lucky to get killed when she did, because she just picked a rose, and we all know what that leads too... Though come to think of it, Herc getting forcibly engaged to a Beast would probably be the most entertaining variant I've heard of.

[@markcobuzzi826]

Disney Hercules: "But if I don't become a true hero, I'll never be able to rejoin my father Zeus." Beast: "But... I am afraid that while you are embarking on your journey to Mount Olympus, I'll die... OF LONELINESS!!!"

[@NodDisciple1]

Mark Cobuzzi Then let him die! Hercules: Okay! Ha haa!

[@markcobuzzi826]

+Brother Malachai Zeus: "IHYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!" *zooms in on a picture of the Disney Zeus putting on a bizarrely happy face.*

[@teedup8995]

Gasp!! It took me a couple of seconds before I got that.

[@alicebthegachaweirdo8378]

Now I desperately need a movie about this

[@SaurAuteur]

Wait a minute? Hercules DOESN'T throw a bear into space in this version?! DisaPPOINTEEEEEEEED!

[@bromodragone8405]

Well, I'm not a Space Beyarrr!

[@citizenmalkane]

@@bromodragone8405 ace frehley wants to know your location

[@bromodragone8405]

@@citizenmalkane Whyyyyy?

[@jinx1987]

*SCENE INTERRUPTING SPACE BEAR*

[@mig0171]

He’s weak that’s why

[@paperboyskull]

"I will value our friendship." *FRIENDSHIP. Friendship?!*

[@Blackheartzero]

paperboyskull *_Again?!_*

[@MforMovesets]

More Phelous? You spoil me Goodtimes.

[@scottylewis8124]

MforZorro | Movesets *Shoves golden films and jetlag movies into trash bag* these are definitely going too. *Throws dingo movies into furnace* they can't just be thrown away. *Tosses bags into ship* they can't just be destroyed. They need to go into space.

[@paperboyskull]

Scotty Lewis AVGN.

[@That_One_Xatu]

Scotty Lewis Eh, before you throw them into space, you should atleast get them wet first. Just to make sure that, if any aliens find them, they won't be able to use them.

[@s0s2]

MforZorro | Movesets You, here? Didn't know you're Phelous-fan as well :D

[@DragonoidBerserker1]

Didn't expect you to be here

[@joeyjojo6148]

He didn't flood a town. It was a stable. So he didn't drown a bunch of people, he just filled redirected the flow of a river to clean up a bunch of poop and probably ended up killing all the fish downstream later.

[@TommyDeonauthsArchives]

JoeyJoJo 15:13 and now the stable is completely useless now!

[@TauGeneration]

I see you're a man of culture as well

[@dancepiglover]

Another chance to kill animals.

[@skyblueblazes9332]

So he technically killed a town of fish

[@superemoboi2050]

I think Phelous was exaggerating for the joke...

[@dancepiglover]

To be fair, the Disney version also had a montage of the tasks while a song played about how great he was.

[@Shades14]

Yeah but that was a montage, not the entire movie.

[@gracekim1998]

@@Shades14 exactly

[@trooper9249]

Given that Disney's Hercules began production in 1992, I have to wonder if maybe Goodtimes found out about it and tried to preemptively cash-in on it.

[@captainangamos2212]

Shane Rominski Nah, if they did they would have waited till the year of Disney's release.

[@TommyDeonauthsArchives]

Shane Rominski That's like saying Wings is a preemptive cash in on Planes.

[@akosbarati2239]

I don't wish to appear rude here, but before the times of websites (like the Blacklist aka Hollywood's most liked unmade scripts, many of which later become a movie) such production schedules were announced well in advance, especially because animated movies used to take 2 to 3 years. They either picked up a newspaper or knew someone who knew someone

[@SlapstickGenius23]

The JetLag version was released in 1995 while Disney’s was released in 1997.

[@gracekim1998]

@@TommyDeonauthsArchives wait…😅

[@beebumm]

Actually the "N" for Hercules is the Greek letter "Eta", which is the first letter in the Greek way to write Hercules (Herakles). Although it is a small eta. The big Eta is "H", so they had the right thought but should have used the big Eta.

[@genyfear]

beebumm I actually learned something today. Thank you.

[@kimberly6663]

I knew the second Phelan made that joke someone would "actually" him

[@TheFlowerGirl13]

I came here to say that, but you beat me and said it better

[@beebumm]

You're welcome :)

[@kobaltsteel6418]

Seems a bit competent for GoodTimes and Jet Lag... but good catch.

[@DragonMaiden77]

Not only did Hercules (or Heracles, as the Greek name is known) kill Megara, he also killed all of his children, mistaking them for monsters. 🌈 *For Kids* 🌈

[@harrysavva9630]

DragonMaiden77 *A Family Picture*

[@ashteal3499]

a perfect family

[@jinx1987]

Might I remind you of The Original Sleeping Beauty story....

[@cookiesnmemes8202]

@@harrysavva9630 A *Psycho Picture*

[@superemoboi2050]

Yeah, because you can _never_ adapt something dark for kids.🙄

[@rainylupin]

What is it with Good Times and making all the princess type characters blonde?!

[@MiloTheMightyDude]

I would make a joke saying the lead animator found it sexy, but nah, too easy.

[@SuperPeterok]

I want to know the joke

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

Just because the easiest one to knockoff in Disney princess even though not a knockoff

[@ebwarg]

How does having superhuman strength help you win a chariot race? Did Herc whip the horses super hard so they’d run super fast? Also, is Athena wearing a King Ghidorah hat?

[@manat31790]

Superhuman senses is probably a part of Hercules. Something like that applies to Wonder Woman being the best of the Amazons. Some racers in real life also do have innate talents to get the best out of cars/bikes/boats/horses compared to others despite driving it only once.

[@Tareltonlives]

Hercules isn't even known for chariot racing. Other Greek heroes have that talent but not Hercules.

[@simonpetrikov3992]

Having superhuman strength would allow you to run faster because you can generate more power with each stride So you probably wouldn’t need the horses and run the chariot yourself

[@Isaac-hm6ih]

​@simonpetrikov3992 It would take a high level of super-strength, but at some point on the scale absolutely.

[@LibraGamesUnlimited]

Pretty sure he was a new born baby when the snake thing happened, that was what was supposed to be so amazing about it. He also, I think, had a twin half brother who was born with him.

[@SannySparrow]

Chris McWilliams yep he had a twin but he was useless so yeah XD he was the “real kid” of the king Zeus turned himself intoo. So yeah the mom got pregnant twice from 2 diffrent man. That’s Greek myths for ya (wha wha wha waaa waaaaa)

[@LibraGamesUnlimited]

@@SannySparrow As I recall, the twin was fathered by the woman's husband so he was full-on mortal. Only Hercules was fathered by Zuse and thus a demi-god. I checked that is actually possible. It's kind of rare but it is physically possible in real life. :)

[@sarasaland4709]

I got this movie and 19 others in a 20 movie GoodTimes pack when my friend and I were at a Family Dollar. I picked it up and she said “Yes and Please. We need this.” So naturally, we’re hyped to watch them all.

[@RedHatMeg]

You make fun of Hercules' snake tossing but this was actually part of the myth and the first indication of him being demigod and having superstrength. Granted, in the source material he did this as an infant, so it made more sense to be amazed by this story.

[@gracekim1998]

It’s because he ‘lightly tosses’ the snakes if it was like actually throwing it with force then it would be impressive Remember this is GOODTIMES🤣

[@gracekim1998]

but it should be THROWING

[@nostalgiaworks5999]

Hercules does what Nintendercules

[@dragonlover7196]

walks in three years later, completely uninvited "i understood that reference"

[@kyleweaver2076]

I almost died laughing at "it's too correct".

[@FlameOfUdun96]

All of the Gods on Mt Olympus are soooo stupid hehehe

[@TheAlienmorph]

Save that for when poor Phelan will go through the Dingo version!

[@brandonlyon730]

Hades is actually a pretty decent guy.

[@TommyDeonauthsArchives]

Flame of Udun King MAHGOD: *MAHGOOOLLLYGAWSH!* Mr. Golly Gosh: Excuse me, but that is my line! King MAHGOD: Oh why don't you make like Hercules and hunt other animals, yeeeeesssss? Mr. Golly Gosh: Why that's mighty out of character for you, King MAHGOD! King MAHGOD: Sure is! Heheheheheheh! Okay?

[@SgtScorpious]

Flame of Udun shut up Wabu XD

[@ArendAlphaEagle]

-shut up dundee-

[@FaeQueenCory]

I always found Hercules' name to be a giant FU dare towards Hera... it's like they named him "BetYouWon'tDoAnythingBitchyToThisBaby,Hera"...

[@Robobagpiper]

"Glory of Hera" - it's either very sarcastic, or a total but failed attempt to sweet-talk her. (So apparently, it really was the latter)

[@mastermarkus5307]

As far as I remember, his name wasn't Herakles until he became a god. His birth name was Alcides or Alcaeus. He might have gotten the name because Hera was cool with him by the time he died.

[@vultar9999]

Master Markus is right, Hercules isn't his birth name. My classics teachers tended to translate the kleos part as something closer to 'everlasting fame'. So Hera's not cool with Herc, and they're not being sarcastic, he's called Herakles because his myths are pretty much the most famous stories involving Hera. Basically she'd be forgotten without him.

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

I think his mother tried to name him that, in the hopes of making Hera not be angry at the fact Zeus cheated on her. Fat chance, of course.

[@theotherghostgirl337]

FaeQueenCory it's actually the opposite, his name means honor of hera, and was supposed to be a way to flatter her so she'd leave him alone

[@bloodrunsclear]

Hercules and the gods weren't even supposed to be likable. They're basically metaphors of that old proverb ''Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.' And yeah...all those characters kind of blew the test...with the exception of Hephaestus the only somewhat nice god. And he got crippled for ticking off Zeus. Greeks were real pessimists O_o

[@brandonlyon730]

Hades wasn't all bad either probably one of the better gods.

[@bloodrunsclear]

He's sort of a grouch.

[@scitechian]

I always felt Hephaestus was a twofold metaphor for pessimistic thoughts about love and beauty: he is multiply disabled, but he managed to bag the Goddess of Love for a wife because he is the guy who invented jewelry (also all forms of handicraft, but that distracts from the metaphor). The other half of the metaphor is that he was the only really hard-laboring and dutiful God on Olympus, despite also being the only ugly one.

[@colbbot3291]

Brandon Lyon yeah why on earth did Disney make Hades a villain? He got stuck with the underworld because Zeus cheated and took Olympus. Hades was supposed to rule Olympus and Zeus took it. Rotten cheater Zeus.

[@brandonlyon730]

From most of the myths I've read Hades was never really "cheated" out being king of the gods, he chose to god of the underworld, and he seem content on his job, and him and Zeus actually got along quite well (far better then Zeus and Posiden) with Zeus even giving his blessings to Hades for marrying his daughter Persephone.

[@AutismCatto]

Lost it at the party at Wabuu's bit. Thank you for that.

[@candycane1744]

Your reviews give me life

[@Pyropuca]

Candy Cane you are the best god here

[@ARedMagicMarker]

Aries troll cracking up at the little girl's question regarding her daddy to Hercules made me laugh just like he did. X'D And why is Hercules grunting and struggling to needlessly show off his lifting of a park bench?

[@Katzztar]

I have to agree that Kevin Smith's version of Ares was the best.

[@SannySparrow]

I remember that show... it was the best 😂

[@lizzychrome7630]

Old Man is secretly Hades, god of the underworld! Think about it: Hades rules a RIVER of the dead...arguably also a JUNK PILE! Hades is in charge of all things no longer worthy to continue living! The god of death deems your life useless. Wabu is obviously Dionysus; Old Mayor is Fortunata (insert drag joke); scene-interrupting-bear is Ursa Major, and King MYGOD! is Leo the Nemean lion.

[@FrenchPaul1988]

So... King MYGOD! was killed by Hercules then ? That's some interesting trivia.... For you.

[@spongepikmin8]

Now that you mention it I’m kinda surprised that there was no “MY GOD!” joke when Herc was wrestling the lion.

[@andreasnickmann370]

Oro is Icarus because he can fly SCIIIIIIIENNNNNNCE

[@andreasnickmann370]

@@FrenchPaul1988 in Dingo's Hercules: yes, Hercules kills King MAGAWD

[@Emisop]

Disney announces what their movies are years before they're released. So yes this Goodtimes Hercules film was made to cash in on Disney's Hercules.

[@missmusicalsrock]

*Gets new Goodtimes Phelous review notification* I CAME AS SOON AS I HEARD

[@smjaiteh]

Of all the source materials for Goodtimes to bastardize, Greek mythology turned out to be the one they couldn't possibly make more messed up.

[@royal9743]

I think this is the first (and last time) I say this unironically: Hercules, check your fucking privilege!

[@thomasink5264]

Ah yes, I remember this tale well. Megatron's war against Zeus and the Greek Gods reaching it's tipping point when the Decepticons murdered the baby Hercules at sunrise. Truly, one the greatest classics of it era.

[@FritzMonorail]

Little did you know it was a Disney cash in. How Did they know about the Disney version two years in advance you ask? They had a spy on the inside that's right HERCULES MULLIGAN! I would like to apologize for this comment, and the barely a reference that it contains, I am very tired.

[@CrimsonMoonM]

They got one thing right that the Disney adaptation didn't, Zeus IS a petty, douchy skirt-chaser.

[@guilhermehank4938]

To be honest, it's impossible to make zeus likable and loyal to the source material. You can't have both

[@Fubukio]

THE LEGEND OF HERCULES TOSSING SNAKES IN HIS ROOM The story of the half-God who invented masturbation.

[@MFields2178]

I love your Hercules voice.

[@loser2466]

I know it's so funny and stupid sounding lol

[@saintdane05]

Hercules is the Hulk Hogan of Greek Myth. But he's not the Hercules of wrestling. Weird.

[@ilikethecokev2]

That's a good question... Achilles, maybe?

[@thatguycalledphil6808]

I would say Edith Hamilton's Hercules, based of previous sources of course, being a man of virtues though as passionate and flawed, is a decent and faithful representation of Hercules based off of ancient sources.

[@Visiden]

"Hercules is a pompous jerk who gets away with everything thanks to his half god status." The dude accidentally killed a man by carelessly stretching his arm out to get something. He went berserk and killed his whole family and was so overcome with remorse that he performed his twelve labors. The Queen of the Gods kept trying to kill him for something his FATHER did. He died a horrific death because he messed with the wrong centaur. Hercules was a hot-headed douche, true. But it seems to me that his half god status made his life worse, not better.

[@Tareltonlives]

And killed his music teacher as a teen and had an emotional breakdown about it.

[@scitechian]

In the actual Greek myths, yes. In this adaptation, no.

[@ripleyjlawman.3162]

Visiden This statement was specifically referring to this movie, not the original mythology.

[@gracekim1998]

Vididen, Phelous is on about Herc in the MOVIE. Keep up PLEASE!

[@gracekim1998]

@@Tareltonlives um did you guys all forget Phelous was talking about Movie Herc. Not the mythology

[@thesprucemoose9135]

We started talking about Heracles and his 12 labors in class, and then this video comes out. Coincidence? .....yes

[@ilpalazzo3]

It's not hard to be brave when you're the most powerful thing around

[@marley7868]

fun fact in the myths zeus has several moments where is clearly cowardly and mocked as such such as the time he played wingman for hades taking all the heat and simply away faster than persophonies mother could chase him

[@josiaharaki7310]

Hermes is actually really popular on Mount Olympus. In fact, he only even got up there because he was so likable.

[@SolidSnake2017]

So Eurystheus and Hercules were just the proto Lex Luthor and Superman, I gotcha

[@WeirdWonderful]

Oh and Hera didn't just make him kill Megara _but their two children as well_.

[@DSan-kl2yc]

TheApachacha but sometimes not Megara.

[@Blackheartzero]

Put the period inside the underscores, _like this._ it's messing up the italics. Just thought you should know...

[@ginidontthinkso4282]

wasnt the twelve labors done after he killed meg in the story?

[@Tareltonlives]

BECAUSE he killed Meg!

[@ginidontthinkso4282]

Yeah. I should have worded it better :(

[@anikmonette2140]

gin idontthinkso I think so, yes.

[@someidiotmetalhead]

If memory serves, he did them out of grief over killing Megara

[@toastedmarshmallowkitty]

Funny fact: Hera gave Heracles/Hercules his powers. Athena took him to Hera and Hera didn't recognize him and nursed him out of pity he got powers from it.

[@antonmasters8626]

Don't forget the part where he apparently caused Hera to spread boob milk everywhere and that's what gave us the milky way. Look it up it's true

[@alicebthegachaweirdo8378]

@@antonmasters8626What the fudge?

[@lorenzomerlos]

Phelous man you have GOT to dub this movie!

[@mastermarkus5307]

Why does Herakles so rarely have a beard in modern depictions when ancient artists pretty much always showed him with one? It's not a big gripe, just something I always found unusual.

[@LannaDru]

Master Markus It would cost too much to draw?

[@mastermarkus5307]

Thor being blond is more of a Marvel comics thing, but I haven't seen a lot of Thor depictions, so maybe it's really common elsewhere?

[@manat31790]

Ancient artists tended to make the characters as grand as possible. Their heroes were drawn muscular, mature and respectful mainly because they were supposed to be the pinnacles of perfection, something people could worship or look up to. Modern heroes are the opposite. People want imperfection and someone they can relate to. These protagonists tend to be revised as young people, being a teenager or a young adult at most, because they are supposed to represent audiences (the target demographic) taking on a journey to learn more about about life and stuff. Also, anime-like arts usually make handsome, clean-face hero some kind of standard. Superhero is a mixture between ancient and modern hero, thus you still see Thor having epic beard and Superman being handsomely masculine despite them being aimed for teens.

[@mastermarkus5307]

One thing - in Ancient Greece, the ideal was generally a smooth-faced, muscular young man, but Herakles is still usually portrayed as "mature", as far as we know. Regardless, I'm just wondering why _in general_ not specifically in this low-quality movie. I know Hercules had a beard when Dwayne Johnson played him, but that's the only time I can think of.

[@oz_jones]

+Master Markus The Rock is one of the few live actors who could pull off a believable Herakles IMHO

[@AtSoul]

"Now you can sit in the shade instead of the sun" he says while putting the bench in the sun in front of the women currently standing in the shade of the tree.

[@mindlessgonzo]

Best burn starts at 8:55.

[@brandonlyon730]

Now you need to review the movie "Hercules and Xena: battle for Mount Olympus" the movie practically reviews itself.

[@Blackheartzero]

Is that the one where the Titans sing about how awesome they are?

[@brandonlyon730]

The boom chacka laca song, Yes.

[@OnDavidsBrain]

PHELOUS WHAT THE HELL??? We all know Raiden is the real god of useless. Also yeah knowing how much of a monster Dickcules is that kind of makes the Disney version something of a small miracle. Though please tell me that Dingo did their own spin on Heracles.

[@Reshumbox]

1TrulyMad they did, they all look like smog monsters in that one.

[@OnDavidsBrain]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAA WE are going to have some fun later.

[@CyberSpider35]

Raiden is on vacation, so Old Man is temporarily replacing him.

[@TommyDeonauthsArchives]

Nickolay Semenov Jerkules: I shall flood this town as part of my task! Old Man: Come on! The town would still be of use even if it was flooded!

[@Typanoid]

Eh the Gods in this cheat all the time, They are completely useless now.

[@muthesquirrel]

Why can't Herc have a more wholesome love story like Achilles, who found his love during the Tojan War by killing her entire family, taking her captive, then forcing her to be his. And you say none of them are relatable, ha!

[@veronikamajerova4564]

I... I don´t remember reading anything about Hercules killing Patrokleses family and forcing him to be his... Yeah, in the beginning of Illias, they raid a town, he gets the second most beautiful woman as his slave, but Agamemnon takes her after he is forced by gods to release the girl he got, saying as the king he shouldn´t be without spoils. Achilles of course throws a fit, but not because he loved that girl, but because he it was HIS prize! He didn´t particulary care about her, which is shown when later Nestor and Oddyseus go to him with message from Agamemnon, that he would return her (still a virgin), and add some other super nice stuff, like horses, chariots, etc., if he stops skulking and go fight, or at least allow Myrmidons, which were under his command, to join the battle, and he refuses. But to be fair, Achilleus kinda had a reason. When recruiting for the Trojan war began, the gods revealed to him, that there are two possible futures for him, and that he can choose whichever he wants. Either he goes to Trojan war and die there a hero, but his name will be remembered for eons to come, or he would refuse Agamemnon and stays at home, in which case he would have long, happy life, but no one will remember him in the future. So, basically Achilleus knew he was gonna die soon, so he won´t have much time to enjoy the spoils he wins, so he wants to make the most of it, while he still can. That´s why he was so upset, when Agamemnon took the girl. He still behaved like a dick, tough, instead of handling it like a man.

[@teedup8995]

What a heel!

[@hypnojon32]

Just wanted to say I've become a real fan Phelous! You're a real funny guy!

[@c-puff]

Thanks so much for pointing out the fact that Hera has Heracles murder Megara because even though those "THE DARK TRUTH BEHIND DISNEY MOVIES" people love focusing in on that on specifically I still think it needs to be said more. But thanks for pointing out the Vast amount of wtf in Greek Mythology because, really, that puts the Megara murder into so much more context than just the clickbaity 'Disney movies come from messed up sources!' thing.. I think I accidentally wrote my point in this comment backwards OH WELL.

[@blondbraid7986]

Yes, and in the original story, Heracles doesn't just go to fulfill his tasks just because someone told him to do so or because he wanted to be popular, he specifically did so in order to redeem himself after Megara's murder, which makes for a far more compelling story. This is a problem you see in adaptions of Bible stories too, the cut out anything that's deemed too violent or flaws that would prevent the characters from being good role-models for kids, and so the movie ends up with an incoherent story with bland characters.

[@Tareltonlives]

I had a part in Euripides' play on it in Classics class in college. A lot of fun.

[@EagleTimberWolf]

What I don't get about those click-bait Disney videos is why people seem to find it so shocking and hard to believe that stories, fairytales, and mythology can be dark or disturbing XD "OMFG! Are you telling me Ariel turns into seafoam?! How DARE they not completely rewrite the original novel to coincide with Disney's forced happily ever after! Wait... Quasimodo and Esmeralda die too?! THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!"

[@Armaldo468]

+Silver Feral Thunderbird I like how a lot of those clickbaity assholes make it out like they braved great dangers to learn the truth. Like bitch, please, most of this stuff can be easily gleaned from a simple Wikipedia or Google search. Get off your high horse. Love your username by the way!

[@fightingmedialounge519]

Except most of this stuff wasn't known to people who thought the disney movies were original properties, so could you get off your high horse. Also why wouldn't people be suprised that a kids movie had some messed up origins.

[@GreebleClown]

Gotta give some credit: giving Cerberus snakes on his back was rather... creative. I've never seen that anywhere else.

[@GlobalsoftPirka]

the Insane Artist does this movie have an obsession with snakes?

[@markcobuzzi826]

Certain variations of the original Greek myths also describe Cerberus as having bunch of supernatural snakes on his body like a mane, allowing the beast to see in all directions and prevent anyone from sneaking past him.

[@thecatofdoom]

It's friday and a new phelous video is out. I must be truly be blessed by the gods.

[@GamingForever87]

YES!!! More Phelous videos! Keep 'em coming man. You're awesome!

[@rorylumley4727]

Its werid as this is way more accurate than the disney version

[@anakoART]

yeah, more accurate but totally unwatchable.

[@elijahwatson3474]

Rory Lumley The disney did acknowledged the real myth in the movie like that odepius joke.

[@HeilRay]

...You're kidding right. Disney isnt known for its accuracy.

[@lorenadavila5580]

The Disney version made Hercules the son of Zeus and Hera instead of a mortal woman. So much for not be accurate, huh?

[@realitywarper936]

Just goes to show that a more faithful adaptation doesn't necessarily mean a better product.

[@jsb8261]

Holy cow, this movie accurately represented Atlas's plight. He holds up the sky, not the Earth

[@missbs1]

Thank you, I really needed this today. A Phelous review of a bad animated movie always cheers me up 🙂

[@milymonstand6199]

I send my love to the person who made the subtitles.

[@helix9445]

Honey, you mean HUNKules!

[@shaymiestar3566]

Atlas’s daughters prefer the sun over the shade, so obviously they’re going to refuse to move... out of the shade of the tree. Makes sense.

[@HiperPivociarz]

Actually, driving away the birds would help the ecosystem, because they are an invasive species. At least in the original myth. Honestly, all those helpless animals are creatures that invaded some land and started murdering every human that came into their sight. So Hercules killing them is doing something useful. And when that's not the case, his task is to capture them, not kill them

[@HiperPivociarz]

@@Tareltonlives But I suppose Phelan wanted to make Hercules seem like even more of an ass

[@sdm47]

@@HiperPivociarz Or this version of the story didn’t convey that fact and he didn’t think to mention it

[@HiperPivociarz]

@@sdm47 I just saw the clips he showed, and even then I will assume these are an invasive species, so I feel like Phelan just wanted to make a joke.

[@sdm47]

@@HiperPivociarz Whatever, the video’s still good

[@HiperPivociarz]

@@sdm47 I agree.

[@matthewjones6786]

This was one of your best reviews, Phelous, you kept me laughing the whole time!

[@thatDamnAusWhoFan]

To be fair, it is closer to the original mythology. Only broblem is he had help from his child nephew and part time lover wjen fighting the hydra and it was his wife and kids who he killed in a fit of rage brought on by Hera

[@funnyscares595]

I laughed more than I should have at the shiny Skarmory bit.

[@jordanthejq12]

Non-Gen I Pokemon references are ALWAYS a win.

[@NurseValentineSG]

ANOTHER VIDEO? :O that's like the third in a week. I'm not complaining, I just can't handle all that phelous

[@rhett8-u1n]

Nurse Valentine its like Christmas came early

[@missscarlett186]

No one said you had to watch them all at once

[@NurseValentineSG]

uh... why should I kiss your feet? That's alot of assuming you do :|

[@livmendel]

Me: * sees the notification for this video pop up * BLESS MY SOUL HERC WAS ON A ROLL

[@domtaylor1887]

My favorite version of the story is still the Disney one because: 1. Herc had character flaws and had to earn his skills. 2. James Woods as Hades.

[@Remythechef]

I’ve heard people say the 1997 film should have been more accurate. Now I have something to kill that argument

[@Remythechef]

I know, but that doesn't mean that being faithful can help the story

[@anakoART]

Yeah, but Disney's Fantasia is many times less popular than Hercules, hance it earned less money. You can make things accurate but that doesn't mean they'll sell.

[@anakoART]

Frizzurd I don't think you got what I meant...

[@SW23252]

Neither is the Prince of Egypt to the original Exodus story. Having studied the actual Book of Exodus in school, I can safely say that the changes they made turned it into a more conventional (and more satisfying) cinematic narrative.

[@anikmonette2140]

Frizzurd Er... It helps? Having a subsequent budget to put your ideas on film's and buy good equipment, as well as hiring good animators is important! Those things aren't cheap... Granted, it doesn't mean the final product will be great but you seem to forget that Transformers movies attracts a certain demographic... A dumb demographic but still they're loyal to Bay and his repetitive crap.

[@revivalfromruins]

06:43 Hmm, I dunno. I think we should be enemies

[@GalakStari]

“Certainly.”

[@maplethorpe8802]

6:20 Hercules was so amazing that everyone came to watch his victory. Even himself

[@gutspuck721]

11:16 , this is not an "n". In Greek "η"= ήτα which is the first letter of the name Hercules = Ηρακλής, so...he uses TMNT logic, has a belt with his name!

[@vegetashairline3060]

Nothing better than winding down after a long day and watching some Phelous

[@jimkol8799]

Actually Heracles can be relatable and steak to the original source material if it is done right. Just think that he wasn't able to control his strength as a teenager and he accidentally killed his teacher which caused him highly. He was exiled from his home and after the labors he was selled as a slave which brought him to more trouble (Google it if you want). Even though he was son of Zeus he did suffer a lot because his blood line had a lot of enemies. Also the η is a Greek letter and it stands for Heracles= Ηρακλής.

[@deerlyqueery]

"N is for Hercules!" I fuckin died- 😂

[@Applepoisoneer]

Watched this with my room mate; we unanimously agreed that you should dub this whole movie. It's brilliant. Also, if nothing else, at least this movie was more mythologically accurate than the Disney one where Hera just loves her perfectly biological son that was given a super common half-humaning potion. Since, y'know, Zeus is the model of fidelity.

[@lulucalliope713]

Oh my god, it's the review I never knew I wanted and needed so badly...Phelous, you spoil us!!!

[@HarpsiFizz]

Goodtimes Hercules is a prick, but at least I learned some mythical facts from Phelous. (I'm being serious; I didn't know Hercules killed his wife)

[@CaffeineDeprivation]

Not only did he kill his wife, he also killed their kids too. He did greatly regret it afterwards though, and (in some versions of the myth at least) took the twelve tasks he's famous from to make amends for what had happened.

[@brandonlyon730]

Wasn't he hypnotize by Hera though and had no idea what he was doing until it was to late.

[@CaffeineDeprivation]

He was. I don't think he ever found out it was her fault, though...

[@akosbarati2239]

+jbiehlable yes, and Transformers inspired the Gobots...

[@akosbarati2239]

+jbiehlable Not sarcasm, but a joke. Kratos is the most popular now, but the inclusion of Sorbo into the 3rd and 4th games were subtle acknowledgment, that, yes, indeed, they did pay an homage to Hercules's life story. Speaking of which, Optimus, before being a Prime, in the prequel story died after aiding and abetting Megatron and the Decepticons, so he was more Che Guevara than Thomas Jefferson

[@luisabravo1438]

I agree with you on Hercules the legendary journeys.

[@xxpowerswithinxx316]

Of course we get another stupid intro song in this one, thanks Goodtimes.

[@gwendolynstata3775]

And it sounds like a 60's folk song for some reason.

[@SW23252]

Say what you want about Disney's Hercules, but at least the music was catchy.

[@Blackheartzero]

Gwendolyn Stata if you actually heard the song, it randomly turns into a weird, half-assed rock ballad after the first verse...

[@johnhutchinson7343]

He should have lost that chariot race: Hercules "How could I have lost that chariot race! I am the mighty Hercules!" Hera: "Well, yeah, but the horses were still normal horses. And being super strong means you just hit the horses hard with the whip, and that might have actually made them run worse because you were actually injuring them."