Phil Perry: I'm surprised by how quiet the Patriots' OC search has been

[@charlessmith9400]

That’s how it used to be. Quiet transactions

[@hbgrimmer850]

First, they cried because they were too fast to choose an HC. Now they're crying because they're taking too long for an OC for their liking SMH. Bertrand is getting to be a lot like Felger now.

[@short_kingzz]

He really is it's to drive rage bait it's becoming a form of the station to piss ppl off so I call or engage

[@larryprimeau5885]

Yes. Josh would be the head coach of the offense which would free up Vrabel to focus on and solve other problems. very important.

[@Mooseman327]

I am so glad that these clowns are getting zero info from inside the Pats' organization. This is how it should be. Eliot Wolf must be being kept under lock and key. And that is also how it should be.

[@tatatoothy-cb3wv]

I was hoping the Giants were gonna fire Daboll as he worked with a young Josh Allen

[@cesarrios1582]

The only coach in Mayo’s staff that kept it professional and somewhat effective was AVP. Covington and Wolf should’ve been fired immediately after the dumpster fire their respective responsibilities were.

[@MrDataton]

Springer, the special teams coach, seemed fine. His presser at the end of the season about fans booing was great.

[@mrcandycanemcc6686]

The only people that should stay is AVP And Springer.

[@jimb8830]

You shouldn't be surprised at all. Long hours of planning strategy, looking around inside the organization for the appropriate people; looking outside the organization for the right people, and analyzing how to put the insiders and outsiders together to plan and scheme and re-organize takes time, Baby. The quietness avoids having to retract spoken words. (Didn't we hear enuf of that with the Mayo administration?) No retractions at this time....only ATtractions to attract good players and trade deals!

[@Oldguard_8]

Vrabel not threatened by McDan....Vrabes has picked decent staff and already has a coaching tree established in the league - that is not indicative of someone intimidated by a subordinate.

[@djot93]

Can anyone articulate why we would move off of AVP without sounding stupid? His work with Maye was A+. To disrupt the progress he and maye made is certifiable.

[@ryansullivan7111]

The offensive coordinator’s job is more than working with the qb. They were near the bottom of the list in every offensive category. A lot of that is because of poor talent but his offense isn’t super innovative. You have a new coach with premiums assets (young qb, a lot of cap space, good draft capital), you can open the search again and I feel you will attract better names than your 12th option.

[@Joe_benning]

The solution is to keep AVP on as offensive assistant/qb coach and bring in someone who can actually scheme up a game plan that isn’t reminiscent of football in the 1960s

[@EastieRick]

He’s not experienced enough to be OC and a new Coordinator may or will not want it done his way and if your talking about him being Qb coach well that’s mechanics and knowing how to play that system. These guys are pros the media is making more of the position being ridged than what it is.

[@AndreLeitedaSilvaGaldino]

A+? Really ?Based on what? I get try to keep AVP but to say his work was A+ is bordeline insane...

[@Eggy79]

If your A+ work is 1-9, then that's just gross. I don't care how much talent you have. What about the offense inspired you? They didn't even remotely get the most out of the little talent they did have. The QB play has sucked for so long that you just want to call a slightly ok season by Maye as A+ because it wasn't a disaster. You can do better than Alex Van Pelt.

[@nathanh4237]

The pats hired their coach sooner than everybody else, so they have more time to pick an OC

[@MrJGchampion]

That’s because they’re informing the position coaches that they won’t be returning

[@plumber10771]

How many teams are running to make McDaniels their OC

[@nancypine9952]

I wondered if they were waiting for someone who was still in the playoffs.

[@jacobhughes9010]

If they don’t get Josh, then they should of hired Ben Johnson

[@ropo0077]

They are at least 2-3 weeks ahead of shedule. So calm down.

[@donywahlberg]

Also only Ben Volin has reported AVP being fired, so far. It's possible Vrabel is open to keeping him on.

[@lukemoloney1113]

Tight pants is a must

[@kylerush7948]

I love mcdaniels and actually think he is a great coordinator, terrible head coach. That aside i think its time to move on and do something else, cause how many wideouts failed in his system? How many players just couldnt get the offense? I remember alot and think its time to either bring back AVP or start from scratch, either or we gotta build the offensive line first and foremost and get a weapon or two, i think pop and boutte earned a shot this year and so maybe a wo1 and te2 if hooper doesnt come back. Personally i would love to trade back a few, pickup Campbell or banks and then trade back into the first and get tyler warren, acts as te2 and one day take over for henry.

[@juliandavis6140]

How many times are we going to bring back McDaniels? We need to get a younger OC from one of these high powered offensive systems who can usher us into the future. Mayo, Vrabel, McDaniels. This franchise is stuck in the past. Wish we had hired Ben Johnson and gotten a fresh new regime that had no affiliation with Bill.

[@MASIS83177]

Vrabel was only a player under Bill not a coach. Plus, Vrabel has made it clear he has a vision, and a plan to get this team back on path and knows what he's doing and is a proven coach. As much as I love Ben Johnson, it would've been a mistake hiring him over Vrabel imo

[@theblackflame4002]

Josh has little experience with mobile QB's, he will try to make Maye a Pocket passer, we need someone who will work in designed runs, roll outs and take advantage of his skills.

[@colbygarrow]

@@theblackflame4002he had Newton for a half season and was able to make a offense around his running ability

[@theblackflame4002]

@ But NE-and I doubt this came from Mayo but higher up-seems to refuse to want Maye to feature his legs unless he's running for his life. If they hamstring Josh like this, the kid is not meant to be a drop back only passer

[@short_kingzz]

Well vrabel isn't from a bill coaching tree he's just an x player but I feel you on the OC search

[@theblackflame4002]

I'm more concerned with how silent the DC search is going. That absolute bum Covington is still on the team. Am I the only one getting worried Vrabel is going to be told he's stuck with him?

[@breakbad9753]

The reason the pats suck now is because they are still convinced that their past success was because of coaching...Without Brady those coaches are all poop on the bottom of our shoes

[@papifuego5273]

AVP was doing great with Maye is there a way AVP would be comfortable staying to help with the QB development

[@Orcasrule6355]

Im not a mcdaniels fan. That being said can’t we keep AVP?

[@djot93]

ThankYou I feel like I'm losing my mind with all this revisionist McDaniels content. Last we saw the guy he gutted the staff and ran to drive the raiders into the dirt. Only players that don't hate him are from the Brady area when everyone was riding Tom's coattails. McDaniels is otherwise universally hated. Tim Mckone has the memory of a goldfish

[@AndreLeitedaSilvaGaldino]

Yes. It that the best option? Not in my view

[@michaellalli7693]

Outside of AVP every position coach were rookies . We just went through a season of low experienced coaches and they were outcoached every game. Some people just anyone except Josh McDaniels - who happens to be the most qualified candidates- Beetle just doesn’t want Josh

[@gp7944]

AVP was a rookie coach, he never called plays

[@breakbad9753]

Please don’t get McDaniels....that’s such a fail.. we need a forward thinking coach who can implement the modern day offense that the bills, Baltimore, lions, KC etc etc.. Josh was only good when he had Brady, it had nothing todo with his scheme

[@LightShadows.]

.... and counting LFG !!!

[@Gbird71]

It will probably be McDaniels. Don’t bring in a guy in that wants to run every game. And they score 10 points a game.

[@marway99]

yup they need to be quite.. they dont need to shout out who is oc.

[@EastieRick]

I think the people who don’t want McDaniels are willing to take anyone else just so long as it’s not him. Cut off your nose to spite your face? And McCown why? Yeah he was a QB but how good was he as a player, nothing to talk about. As a coach the guys only been a QB coach for two years that’s the extent of his coaching no play calling.

[@bianconi207]

You can't tell me vrabel took the job with no idea who's going to be OC. They just got bad PR for "rushing" the last hiring

[@Groovemaker-wv7fc]

R E L A X its still early. After the playoffs and SB is completed, we’ll see movement. Its either too fast or too slow for the daily media. Absurd!

[@obarbeito]

McDaniels will never be a HC again in this league. If he's the best option available, then hire him. I personally think the franchise has to move on from ex-Patriots, but whatever...

[@SkeletorsSon]

The entitlement of the pathetic media, you are not part of the team

[@readinsteadbyjake]

I don’t understand what the problem with AVP was..

[@Mooseman327]

Yeah, I know. The only coaches who seemed capable were AVP, QB coach McCartney, and the two special teams coaches, Springer and his assistant coach. You have to give the offensive line coaches a pass because of the crap they were forced to contend with. Remember, the previous O-line coach had a physical and nervous breakdown dealing with the lack of talent on the O-line. But all the defensive coaches, the WR coaches, and Mayo seemed to be in over their heads and outcoached every damn week by their opponents.

[@Tony_T1]

That's because Vrabel already has someone in mind. It's not who y'all and the rest of the media keeps thinking it's going to be....... Conference Championship weekend we'll know.😉

[@austind2455]

South Dakota school of mining philosophy

[@Stephen-tj2us]

Playoffs aren’t over how can you pick a proper OC yet?

[@EastieRick]

11:05 my god Josh survived under Bill what are we talking about. These are men not girls you don’t have to like someone to DO YOUR JOB

[@djot93]

@@EastieRick girls can't do their jobs huh... way to make your Josh McDaniels takes sound even dumber. Didn't know that was possible

[@EastieRick]

@ your intellectual prowess is off the charts in the abyss. this convo is over I have no interest in people who talk with the lack of integrity.

[@John-ms6bv]

I usually enjoy Perry, but his takes lately seem heavily influence by the nonsensical radio talking heads he interacts with. Belichick built his staffs based on fear of a coaching coup and just brought in random coaches? He’s clearly referring to Pellegrino with the lacrosse quip, and Pellegrino started as a staff assistant and worked up through the ranks, just as all of the other coaches did: McDaniels, Patricia, Daboll, O’Shea, etc. all started as assistants. He never put in place a coordinator from outside of the organization (with the exception of Charlie and Romeo), instead always elevating guys who moved up the ranks within the organization. And didn’t Belichick rehire McDaniels after his failed stint in Denver as the HC? Don’t you think he knew McDaniels wanted another bite at the HC apple?

[@tristanlee5484]

There’s a reason he’s not being called by other teams.. you guys are just too emotionally attached

[@philiptan5814]

THANK GOD COACH CONDIMENT IS GONE

[@djot93]

Josh McDaniels failed consistently without Brady. The Mac and Cam seasons were disappointments on offense. The his raiders with Jimmy G and tons of weapons were bottom of the league

[@EastieRick]

Not true

[@drewmartin3689]

Mac was a pro bowler and had the 1 seed for a time under Josh and Cam had the most QB rushing touchdowns under josh's designed offense for him...

[@Thatonewaterfairy300]

False

[@DMKFACTOR]

Bro, the Pats averaged 27.2 points per game in Mac’s rookie year! WTF are you talking about? He’s clearly not good as a Head Coach, but he is a master at designing offenses that are ultra creative and can adapt to any situation! Plus he’ll NEVER get another head coaching job, no matter how well Drake becomes or how well the Pats play. He’s the offensive Steve Spagnola! That would be huge to have someone that can be here for Drake long term! Go listen to Brian Hoyer talk about the drills Josh use to make them do for footwork! That’s the guy to fix, permanently, Drake footwork. He started regressing a bit and getting to tall and too deep in the pocket towards the end of the year!

[@EastieRick]

@@djot93 every QB with the Pats who started a game looked good with Josh. Brady, Cassell, Jimmy G, Newton, Mac, even Brissett looked like a find.