Philharmonic BMR V.2: Why Isn't This Speaker More Popular?

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[@pennfootball71]

One of my best friends that reviews for one of the major magazines said the Salk Sound SS 9.5 was one of the best rooms. It was 11k and beats many 30k speakers. This level of speaker is good not just for the money but good. So I get why you love this thing. Problem is it’s not a Wilson or a Magico or a Sopra 2 Focal and they don’t have the marketing budget. More people need to listen to stuff like this.

[@2ChannelListening]

You are spot on. I've gone out of my way to not constantly call out the price hype associated with some brands, with the exception of Alta Audio, guilty for lambasting ML. However, I find it more troublesome how easy it is for someone to spend $5K on major mass produced speakers and they never even give these other small brands a shot. Being in the home integration business - all I hear about is Sonos this and Sonos that...now people are thinking Samsung is Hifi!!! Anyway, whatever gets people started in the hobby is a good thing, I love to see individuals curiosity peaked. That's when they start asking valuable questions. There are many paths to unlocking more from music; Dennis Murphy of Philharmonic Audio created a beautiful shortcut.

[@longmuskox4194]

@@2ChannelListening Listening is always subjective. But when I heard you mention Sonos, not Sonus, and Samsung it was kind of cringe. Whatever gets them down the right path I guess. Either way, you both got a like from me for saying the right things.

[@jymcaputo]

I own a pair of Raidho Acoustics D1.1 2-way monitors. The mfg list price is crazy expensive at $30k for the premium finish and upgrade stands. Many dealers (at one time) were selling these at the street price of $20k and under. I picked up a demo pair for $12k 3 years ago. Does anyone have first hand experience comparing the D1.1 to the BMR.

[@pennfootball71]

@@jymcaputo For 12.5k that is a great deal! Rhaido had a 70 point or 70% dealer markup did you know that? that is why so many people got big big discounts. BUT now they have a new distributor that takes a bigger cut and dealers only have a 50 point markup allegedly. So the discounts are not what they used to be possibly and allegedly. I can not confirm nor deny this comment.

[@johnbravo7542]

yeah,not even appealing,it looks like one of my own diy speakers

[@decoryder]

I've exchanged some emails with Dennis Murphy when he built my AA Monitors, and I'd like to say for the record that he is one of the nicest, most sincere and most competent individuals I've ever run across; he taught me a lot about proper crossover and speaker design. My very best wishes to Dennis Murphy, he's a national treasure!

[@2ChannelListening]

Well said, thank you for sharing this DR.

[@Anand.Asrani]

Thank you ! for mentioning a list of fabulous speakers and covering the BMR in detail Truly Intrigued ...

[@2ChannelListening]

Glad you liked it! Thank you for watching.

[@Boorz01]

Very nice and honest review. Keep up the good work! The BMR towers seem even more interesting as they are full range for less than 4k a pair.

[@2ChannelListening]

Thanks! 👍 Yes, I absolutely want to review the Towers. Thanks for watching.

[@ferchizzle]

You are a "2 Channel Journeyman". Thank you for taking us along for the ride!

[@2ChannelListening]

Thanks for watching!

[@MrDevinDinosaur]

Great Review! I just took delivery of the BMR Towers and love them! I think you are spot on about Mr Murphy being very conservative about the specs. I find the efficiency to be just fine and not hard to drive. Would love to see you review the new Salk BePure with Beryllium tweeter and Purifi woofers. Keep up the great work! PS if anyone is interested in purchasing the towers, Dennis only has one or two pairs left and next shipment won't arrive until October.

[@2ChannelListening]

Thanks for sharing! I appreciate your words Ron. Enjoy those Towers, they are on my list. Salk is a little too rich for my blood at this time.

[@darrylking5543]

Well I was just amazed at what I heard out of these speakers. We just had a speaker show today in Fountain Hills AZ and they where the best speakers I have ever heard as of yet. Also Mr Murphy was at the show and I got to talk to him for a while and what a great guy. Now I went to the show to hear the Tekton and they where good but not like these, very emotional and I found myself in tears. Now some the other speakers needed to be played in the same room by the same DJ. VERY AMAZING PRODUCT. THANKS

[@2ChannelListening]

Absolutely Darryl, are you going to grab a pair?

[@darrylking5543]

@@2ChannelListening I would love to, but I don't have room.

[@edmerkel2407]

Yeah. What Calvin said, below. (But without Covid, thankfully, and just audio, no HT.) Color me suitably impressed. Good review. And so appreciated! Living where there are no audio salons nearby makes it hard. Even the closest would take a long weekend, which is difficult with portable oxy requirements.

[@2ChannelListening]

Understood. I've had a recent string of bad Ebay luck I haven't talked about. It is difficult investing in something sight unseen, getting excited about it and the huge disappointment on delivery day when its not what you hoped (let alone works...). Thank you for watching and being a subscriber Ed.

[@pkats9093]

Nice review as usual. I appreciate your level of detail. I was surprised to hear you thought that the ceramic driver was in the same league as far as tone and palpability as the wood pulp driver. Then I remembered that my little Vienna acoustics Bach grandes have a type of silicone/ polypropylene composite driver and have some of the best tone I’ve heard. You definitely piqued my interest to hear these speakers!

[@2ChannelListening]

Certainly Pkats. Believe me, I expected the speed, punch and timing, was not expecting tone, level of harmonic texture and pitch, thought it would be flat like its measurements. Thanks for watching! Worth a deeper look.

[@michaelborza734]

It's a pleasantly smooth experience taking in your videos. I happened upon your channel because I have the Sierra 1's and was thinking I might want to purchase the upgrade package to the SIERRA-2EX V2. @ almost $600 per speaker (and I really enjoy the 1's in my 12' W x 18' D x 8.5' H space) $1200.00 is a lot to add to the $900 already paid. Now I'm thinking the BMR's or even the Totems. I'm recently retired and have ample time to spend enjoying one of my favorite things. Music. Thank you! Subscribed w/bell :)

[@2ChannelListening]

Thank you for the sub sir. As much as I enjoy the 2EX, the BMR’s are an even greater step up in total dynamics and midrange presence. The BMR are very easy to drive to satisfying levels with modest gear. Totem require more commitment and matching to bring out their best. I wish you much luck and enjoyment finding what you like best! 👍😊

[@michaelborza734]

@@2ChannelListening I much appreciate your response. I hope all is going very well in your journey. I have a Belles 150A amp and a Audible Illusions Modulus 3A preamplifier that's been collecting dust for a decade. I have a refurbished Fisher KT100 tube gear also collecting dust. I got lazy. I use my Pioneer SC27 surround with all Ascend Acoustics. Maybe the BMR's would be an easy solution. Then I could sell all the gear in my spare bedroom (lots), which is starting to look like a kitchen junk drawer. I'm planning on a move with a dedicated music room.

[@calvincurry8496]

I heard these speakers after the 2019 Audioholics Review. Was about to get a pair. Mr Murphy Had Health Issues. And Production stopped. Was going to get the Salk Audio Version. Or the New SongTower 2. Got Covid and all that went with that ( 12 family Members including My Mom) Anywho. Love his Designs ( Songtower 1 is a Beast Speaker for the$) Will have the Money to get a pair in Feb 2022. , with a Center Channel. ( 60% music, 40% HT) Thank you for your review format ( esp History and Details Given) I think im going with this BMR V 2. Your review closed it!! Thank you Much😊🙏💪

[@2ChannelListening]

Wow, thank you Calvin. I did see the old Go Fund Me Page was still up for Mr. Murphy's event. He's a rare man, still takes the time to respond to followers and address questions and or concerns. Very worthy of the cult following. Sounds like you have some nice goals to look forward to in 2022! I wish you luck and good will.

[@pedrocols]

I remember when the Song Towers where $1,500. They are now almost one thousand dollars more expensive.

[@2ChannelListening]

@@pedrocols nobody is going to win at that game post 2020. 20 years ago my first Mustang GT was $20,990. Now they start at over $36K... Look at the Klipsch Forte IV = $4,998, are you kidding me! I bought and sold Forte II's for $600 just three years ago, the differences are pretty small. Inflation is a B.

[@mikhailtkachuk7955]

Thank you very much for a great review, I always watch your videos with great interest .... I have two questions for you, what type of amplifier would you recommend for this speaker and are the speaker stands included in the package? thanks a lot!!!

[@2ChannelListening]

Thank you for the nice comment Mikhail. To my knowledge, Mr. Murphy does not offer stands, none are listed and I never thought to ask. If I were to do it over again, I would work with Jim Salk to have him build matching stands with the matching veneer of choice - just be prepared to pay a good deal more than Monoprice cast metal stands. Regarding what amp I would pair. Luckily the new V.2 is a magnitude order more efficient than the original, thus so many more good budget worthy integrated amps will play nice. I would say keep the power figures above 60 watts per channel and you will have no issues rocking with these speakers. I used Class D, biased B, A/B and A with them, and none were offensive. Honestly, the speakers are so good, just about any decently built amp will work well - I wouldn't dare narrow it down - not a cop out or duck, just a fact.

[@rg6556]

Great review! Can't wait for your review on the Avalon's.

[@2ChannelListening]

Thank you

[@ChaiBearProductions]

Thanks for the well thought out review. I’m thinking of putting my KEF LS50 on the market to finance these. I love the detail and clean sound of the LS50. Am I right to assume that the RAAL brings even more detail to the mix? One thing I’m not very fond of with my LS50 is it’s narrow dispersion in my larger space. It has great imaging but is missing the width to the stage. I again assume that the BMR would totally disappear in comparison because of its wide dispersion characteristics? I’ve never used a ribbon speaker before so I’m very intrigued with this speaker. I listen to a lot of genres of music but mostly play classic rock and 80s. Also have a Rel T9/x that can pair with them. Thank you 🙏🏼

[@2ChannelListening]

The Rel T9 will really give you full range mix with the BMR. Now, to answer your Raal question, I have to be careful here. The BMR driver (mid-range) is providing a lot of the width and vocal presence. The Raal is crossed over higher as sweet fill in and you do get a good sense of sound stage width, more so than two way only designs with a Raal. Happy hunting.

[@memcdm]

Great speakers. Very smooth and articulate and coherent. Very wide sound stage for a speaker of this size and price. Bass is tight and a bit "dry" to my ears in my room. Very clear especially on string bass. Very wide dispersion may give you some issues in a highly reflective space It plays plenty loud enough for me but SPL freaks might not be happy. They do need good clean power to sound their best. Dennis Murphy is warm, friendly, knowledgeable and very responsive regarding any questions you might have regarding his products. He is honest and makes no exotic (snake oil) claims for his product. If you have the bucks, consider BMR towers especially if you like orchestra, jazz or any acoustic musical style. Also, the cabinets are solid and very beautiful . . . Something you will be proud to own. I love my BMR Monitors.

[@2ChannelListening]

Nice comments, thank you for contributing.

[@MrTeko75]

That was good. Thanks for the talk.

[@2ChannelListening]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Audfile]

I wish I could somehow achieve the level of mellow you have. Life must be so relaxing for you lol.

[@2ChannelListening]

LOL 😆 not sure how to respond to your statement other than to sit here and chill…👌🏻

[@Audfile]

@2 Channel Listening it's a complement! You're like a dozing lion. You'll probably live to be 110.

[@2ChannelListening]

Compliment happily accepted, thank you!

[@gleamtarrest6310]

Killer little speakers! They good @ low-level late night listening? Freaking Love you are killing Old-school QueensRyche-

[@2ChannelListening]

They do very well for low listening, just know that with little juice to the 6" driver will limit your bottom end fill in. Of course the size of the room matters as well as back wall placement. Thanks for watching!

[@seanb3303]

Great review I hope you get to review the other budget champion in the KLH Model 5

[@2ChannelListening]

We shall see, thank you Sean.

[@tablameister]

I just bought a pair of the BMR monitors. Best speakers I have ever owned. The amount of detail revealed by the Raal tweeters is something else. If you are looking for some good audio material that has horns, check out Hugh Masekela's Hope and George Benson's Giblet Gravy.

[@2ChannelListening]

Thanks for the audio references, have not heard of Giblet Gravy, certainly look that one up. The BMR is a great speaker, top to bottom, lots of information shinning through. Cheers.

[@joeygonzo]

how much are they ?

[@2ChannelListening]

Non-curved Rosewood is $1700 + shipping, Rosewood $1900 + shipping

[@Ivy13276]

Can I ask what you updated from?

[@swiftraider759]

Great Review! Did you try pairing it with the Unico? thoughts? Do you feel that for most music not including an Organ these speakers are fine without a Sub?By the way I do like listening to film scores as well. LOTR ..Pirates, DaVinci code and Hanz Zimmer in general.

[@2ChannelListening]

In my opinion, at lower listening levels, the bass notes are there, just not as pronounced. It takes some current to begin feeling the notes, so if one is also looking for lower level "impact", I would say you still need a sub. When you listen at moderate levels, that's when the SB Acoustic driver really starts to impress with its output. Regarding pairing of amps, the BMR's sound great with everything I threw at it. I used my little 12 watt tube, my 25 watt mini integrated all the way up to the 250 watt mono's. These speakers do like some heft and rocked the best with big watts. They sounded nice and delicate with the lower powered amps without sounding anemic. The Unison was really good, but I wouldn't settle on it alone for the BMR's.

[@briancampbell7712]

love your passion for 2 channel...I own the Dali Rubicon 2 w/pair of rel subs...great sound to where the speakers disapear...but i'm wanting a fuller sounding speaker...would this BMR do that or do I need to go with perhaps the floor model Dali Rubicon 6...

[@2ChannelListening]

Hello Brian, in general terms, bigger speakers sound fuller, either by way of larger drivers or additional drivers to more efficiently distribute frequency ranges. The BMR would sound maybe a tad fuller, especially in the mid-band, but nothing I say as a big difference. I suppose you have to experiment, do you have the room size to accommodate Dali Rubicon 6? Is so, do not discount the BMR Tower. Good luck.

[@igorgrunskyi]

Thank you for a detailed review! I am wondering how close to the wall they can be placed without degrading significantly in quality? I am curious how would they compare to something like B&W 705S2?

[@2ChannelListening]

Hi Igor, pretty much within 6-8 inches of the rear wall, the bass reinforcement gets to be a bit much - however, some may like that. Cannot comment on 705's other than the B&W treble bump in most crossover designs. I once owned older 704's, they weren't for me.

[@thespotlightkid1011]

From the camera angle at least, I'm amazed the speaker on your left side has not fallen off. A driver that goes from 36'Hz to 20'Khz without serious dips & peaks in it's f'r' seems like "The" perfect driver

[@2ChannelListening]

Certainly an unencumbered sound. Camera angles are funny things, aren't they?

[@marcgoldin8937]

Another nice review, those seem like some really awesome speakers. I was wondering what kind of of front end you are planning to use with the Avalons? Are you going to go with an integrated amp or separate pre and power amp? As to selling a lot of you gear, I wish that I had the means to buy your Unico or Tektons from you. : -) Also about your recent post about tape decks, I still have my H-K CD401 and it still sounds good (nearly CD quality) to this day.

[@2ChannelListening]

Hello Mr. Goldin, I have to tell you, I am slow rolling the new front end - unlike everything else I do, lol. Funds are always the arbiter of the results. There have been a few very odd, budget pieces I've had to sit on my hands over - Hafler and seldom seen NAD model. I really want to pair the Avalons with a powerful tube amp, but that is impractical for as much glow time as I would put it through...I'm letting fate take this wheel.

[@marcgoldin8937]

@@2ChannelListening I would be pleased if you called me Marc. After all, we are both "brothers" in our shared enjoyment of hi fi and listening to music. :-)

[@nitinkanchan5294]

A very nice review of the PH BMR's and is on my list. I am interested in going for them. I just had a question whether the Raal/BMR sound natural or on the brighter side with acoustic guitar, sax, violin, cymbals & vocals as I am averse to bright sounds & sibilance. Thank you.

[@2ChannelListening]

Greetings and thank you Nitin; the crossover and Raal in this configuration work incredibly well. The BMR driver is handling most of the midrange frequencies and therefor, this is a very smooth 3 way design, capable of non-fatiguing high output. Given I listen to lots of progrock and acoustical guitar, there is no real metal stridency. Only the worst of recordings (aka Sarah Brightman) will you hear ugly sibilance.

[@nitinkanchan5294]

@@2ChannelListening , greetings to you too and thanks a lot for your prompt reply. Really appreciate it.

[@Darkmatter356]

Im doing my research to build my first serious stereo system and these BMRs have been on my radar for many years. I watched your review of the tekton uruz first and your summary of them towards the later half of the review was perfect for my needs. The overall sound quality of the BMRs stand out to me. I was also very content to drop the DW6 off my list based off your comparison with the Uruz. Could you give me a comparison of these two speakers head to head?

[@2ChannelListening]

I'll do my best taken in the context of use case and what you are paying for. The BMR is by far the more room friendly, placeable and decor agnostic speaker of these two. You are paying for the SB Acoustic woofer as well as a Raal tweeter versus a Chinese tweeter in the Tekton. Tekton is about maximum performance for the least money spent. Hence the less than appealing finish quality. Sonically, the BMR is more refined for small and medium size rooms. Plays a bit flatter and has a smidge more inner detail. Where the Tekton comes back is volume and power handling. At the end of the day, the Tekton ribbon tweeter crossed over at 5K is safe for you to pump huge power into the Eminence driver and treat it like a barbarian. If polite music is your thing, ignore the Tekton. The BMR will get rowdy to a point, but these two speakers cater to different folks. I love listening to loud rock on the Tekton, it does not fatigue me and it has real useful 32hz muscle. While the SB Acoustics 6" is very impressive, it will not hit like a 10" paper driver. Again, BMR is speed with finesse, Uruz is more refined 'sounding' than a DW MKII, but still has full rock cred. Cheers.

[@jeffkalina7727]

I found you today for the 1st time. Folks live in ID. Beautiful state. Your style is unique and refreshing. Question- did you own/listen to/review any of these stand mounts- Joseph Pulsar, Sonus Faber Amator Electa 3, Fritz Carrerra 7 ? You mention favorites as Totem Fire and Dali R-2. Thanks.

[@2ChannelListening]

So, despite what many people think about KZbin content providers, I do not make enough money monthly to buy two SACD's...just a fact (at least today). So the bulk of all my purchases are self funded, second hand market, with a few exceptions. I have a few local audio friends that lend me their gear and have me give them a verdict, so that helps fill in some gaps when I cannot come up with a new piece. The list you provided me are all amazing stand mounts I would love to review, but cannot afford to purchase on my own. The Fritz, eh, sometimes that one comes close to my wheelhouse on Hifi Shark. I think the Fritz is the most compelling - and fits with my small boutique philosophy. Joseph still punches too far above my pay grade. I got lucky with the Totem's - bought them at a Hifi Store liquidation auction.

[@KarthikSktk]

Loved your review. Always had a fascination for RAALs. For a room of 220sqft with the MLP at around 11 feet, would you recommend the BMRs over the Sierra 2EX solely based on SPL levels? If not, why? Thanks in advance

[@2ChannelListening]

For your size of room, I would recommend the BMR based on their output levels I've experienced in small vs. larger rooms. The Sierra's are better suited to small/medium rooms, whereas the BMR's can really fill a large room adequately at moderate volume. The bass punch is more pronounced in the BMR, important for your 11' listening distance.

[@KarthikSktk]

@@2ChannelListening Thanks a ton.. will reach out to Dennis right away :)

[@nc3419]

@@2ChannelListening Planning an upgrade to what I have now and have looked at alot of speakers between 1K to $2.5K. Wanted to shrink everything down but with speakers, I'd consider something of a larger standmount, particularly if it is a DM design. The big question is, can I get away with a lower powered amp at low to moderate volumes but fills my space. I don't need/want to listen at high volumes anymore but look for sufficient depth, separation and good tonality, something that does well with both music (classical/sonatas, some jazz, blues, folk, and acoustic...and movie soundtracks and speech. Coming from a Focal 807W looking for more low end, mid performance and smoother but still extended highs. I switched from a Hegel h160 to a Keces E40 which outputs about 25% of the Hegel and in my midsize room and about 8 feet from each speaker essentially performs as well. Still have the Hegel also. So, can I get away with a 34/62 watt//claimed up to 15 amp output into 8/4 ohms for the BMR speaker or does it really need power and more volume levels to shine? Considering a 100 watt amp/integrated, lighter than h160 so it's possible but really like the Keces in spite of lower power. It does a very nice job for the budget. Always wanted to try the Phil BMR speakers. Any thoughts/guidance appreciated.

[@johnsweda2999]

they make a floorstander like that with a extra mid-range driver be good comparison. Audioholics did a review on them very impressed they were the measurements come out very good Do you say the transmission line Port what is that quarter of a wave?

[@2ChannelListening]

The transmission line I referred to were the older Philharmonic 3's with the bass bin, I did not mean to infer the BMR's are, they look standard reflex port to me with tube a good 7.75" deep in the cabinet.

[@jymcaputo]

I see that the 6" SB Acoustics woofer now used in the BMR is made in Denmark. Do you know if this is the same driver used by Denmark manufacturer, Raidho Acoustics, in their C-series speakers?

[@2ChannelListening]

I am not familiar with specifics behind the Raidho products. Generally they have an in-house modification request like most high-end boutique builders, yet I cannot comment directly.

[@martlet530]

I’m in camp two - never heard of them - would love to have you post a few music samples on them. I have not found a sound sample elsewhere. Great review!!!

[@2ChannelListening]

Thank you Scott. I'll have to consider running a sound demo.

[@Deanwam8]

There’s a google file at the bottom of the Philharmonic site with a ton of sample content. It sounds amazing!

[@drblaze3850]

Ya'll might think you're listening to the BMR's, but you're just listening to your own system

[@nitinkanchan5294]

Greetings to you . Since you have reviewed both the Ascend Sierra2 and the Phil BMR's. Which one did you more enjoyable apart from the low bass. Thank you.

[@2ChannelListening]

Well, if you remove the bass advantage of the BMR, one is still left with a slightly more fleshed out mid-range thanks to the namesake driver. The Sierra 2EX and BMR are matched only in the upper treble, being they share a Raal design. The Sierra 2EX is still an excellent office or bedroom speaker, however, once the room gets bigger, the BMR is more appropriately suited to larger spaces.

[@nitinkanchan5294]

@@2ChannelListening , thanks a lot for your response.

[@nc3419]

Do you think these would work on 28 inch stands? A bit higher than the recommended height, but other speakers I have seem to perform well enough, to me, placed a bit higher up than recommended, or, where do you find these play the most consistent regarding height?

[@2ChannelListening]

Hello NC, personally, I think 28" would be too tall. The BMR's are tall monitors at 18" themselves. I had them on 20" stands, the tweeter was only just above my ears. You would need something to rake them forward a few degrees to compensate. Nothing dramatic, but you do not want the woofers at ear height. Good luck.

[@slyfoxx8540]

Would you say these would work in a small apartment? (12×11×9) I actually tried the dali rubi2's and found them a bit much, I wanted a big sound....but maybe not quite that much lol. The underlying bass was too much and to be honest the tweeter didn't have enough zing. Using them in a 4.1 ht setup at moderate volume. Thinking maybe the 2ex's may go better?

[@2ChannelListening]

Too bad those Rubicon's didn't work for you, I used them for 3.1 duty well enough. The Phil's are larger speakers and "can" play louder. However, the nature of the ribbon tweeter is a tad sweeter, smoother than the 29mm unit in the Dali's (my opinion with ribbons). I think the Phil's sound better when pushed at moderate volumes, to really appreciate their capabilities. If you want more zing, you probably should look at Focal.

[@slyfoxx8540]

@@2ChannelListening hmmm. Looks like the kantas will be on the list then. Goodbye money lol.

[@briancampbell7712]

Is it worth changing my Dali Rubicon 2 for these BMR or Totem acoustic fire speakers? Always looking for the best sounding 2 chanel setup...I am not a fan of ribbon tweeters

[@2ChannelListening]

I have no idea where you are at Brian. The cost of speakers by region can vary greatly. I think Totem Acoustic Fire's are wonderful, yet at their new price, I would only suggest them second hand - there are so many other speakers I would say need exploring before plopping down $7,500 US. Dollar for dollar, pound for pound, the BMR's are the best value I personally have owned thus far, regarding stand mount speakers. I love the Rubicon 2's, but BMR's are the better all around performer.

[@TheDeepdylan]

So, based in large part on this review I went ahead and pulled the trigger on a pair of curved rosewood BMRs that will ship out to me next week sometime. As I watched your review for the 4th or 5th time I saw on your detractions list that you wish you hadn't gotten the rosewood and wished you had gotten walnut. Walnut wasn't an option offered to me and I didn't see an option for curved on Salk's website. I was wondering why you regretted the rosewood, and definitely second guessing myself as this is by far my most expensive audio purchase. Also I was curious as to how you think these would perform in a near field environment, and also how they would do as a home theater option with an av receiver as their amplification? Any info would be greatly appreciated, and thanks a ton for the great work you do on the channel!

[@2ChannelListening]

First, let me say thank you very much for your kind comments and enthusiasm. The main reason I dislike the curved Rosewood version is the super high gloss finish has a plastic quality to it - I prefer warmer muted finishes. I understand supply is very short for Mr. Murphy. I do not recommend the BMR as nearfield speakers anymore than I would recommend floor standing speakers as nearfield units. Why, speaker height, driver separation and the necessary space required for the sound field to integrate. Depending on where your ears are placed and how close, you will get one of the drivers dominating the frequency response. Now, as to the AV receiver; if you are using it as a stereo integrated amp, I would not bat an eye. However, if you are asking your AV receiver to deliver full spec power to the BMR and driver 3 or 5 other speakers, you may be disappointed. Most lower to mid-level AVR's are rated for only two channels driven (some only one!). They can lose 30 - 50% power when attached to a full host of surround speakers. NAD is pretty good about giving full power specs on ALL speakers driven and leave some headroom. Arcam and Anthem are also very good. I hope I am not discouraging you, just stating what I know and experiences are. Good luck and congratulations on your purchase. You will love the BMR's once you have them comfortably dialed into your space. Check back in with me once you have 50+ hours on them and your impressions. Best regards.

[@diemtran3799]

Where do you buy them at? Can you share the link if you don't mind?

[@boniccie]

Love the review👍 If those BMR are that good, do you mind me asking why you sold them?

[@2ChannelListening]

Because I love to keep moving on. Longest I've ever owned a pair of speakers happened to be two years when I was not focused on gear. I may have these Avalons for a good while, I might not... I learned to not ever have the end in mind when buying/demoing a piece of gear. For me, that would be like buying only one brand and variety of wine, drinking nothing else. Life would be rather dull. Thank you for watching DM.

[@boniccie]

@@2ChannelListening between the bmr and Salk song3 (regardless of the price difference) in a 250sq ft room listening mostly to jazz ensembles and Jazz vocal, what will be your choice?

[@2ChannelListening]

@@boniccie Oh goodness, that is easy friend. The Salk Sound 3 all day...talk about three amazing drivers. At 250 sq ft. you would be far enough away for excellent integration of the bass loading scheme. I would say the BMR would shine in more of a 120 - 180 sq ft. room.

[@nc3419]

Do you think these can be driven well enough using a quality 40 watt amp (Keces E40)for low to moderate listening levels in a mid size room approx 300 sq ft? Also, currently have 28" stands and I sit about 7-8 feet from each speaker. Any thoughts appreciated.

[@2ChannelListening]

Greetings NC. I drove the BMR's to 88db in room with my 12 watt class A tube amp, no problems, 40 watts would be more than enough for 95db peaks in the space requirements you mention, provided you are not sitting 15' away from the speakers.

[@nc3419]

@@2ChannelListening Thank you.

[@nc3419]

@@2ChannelListening One thing I forgot to ask is how well do these speakers perform at lower listening levels, such as at night? Do they remain or show, in perspective of course dynamic range, fullness of stage, bass, etc., basically do they perform well or is it a speaker that needs more power and SPL to achieve its' SQ? I probably listen at mid 70s to mid 80s db from 7 feet away throughout the day.

[@RennieAsh]

Would love a BMR monitor with Purifi woofer or maybe some scanspeak for better deep bass excursion capability

[@2ChannelListening]

It would not be a bad idea to offer a $3K version with the Purifi woofer. However, if you have not heard the SB driver, you will be surprised how good it is, especially in a product at this price point. Purifi will add a $1K to the market cost. p.s. the last generation had a Scanspeak Classic 7" woofer. The SB ceramic measurably out performs it.

[@kens.213]

You should give the BMR Towers a go round. Everything the BMR Monitors are, with bass to 25hz + or - 2db. I don't use a sub! They are ridiculously good. They replaced a pair of Salk Song Towers. Both speaker cabinets were designed by transmission line guru Paul Kittinger, and as you noted, crossover design by Dennis Murphy. The Song Towers were great, the BMR Towers are on another level. I've had guys on a forum ask why I don't use a sub, to which I ask, why would you want to screw with something that sounds so perfect?

[@2ChannelListening]

Good feedback, great answer to the question of a sub, I would agree 😊. Towers are on my list 👍

[@calvincurry8496]

Rachell Farrell s " My First Instrument" Acoustic instruments. Stick Bass, Piano, Drums, Her 6 octave Voice. Jazz Format! Also. The soundtrack to " The Movie "" "Round Midnight" I dont know if you do Jazz. But good Albums for Good Speakers. 😊🙏💪

[@2ChannelListening]

Thank you for the suggestions, I will look her up and check out "Round Midnight".

[@Simplyveej]

Great review. Thank you. How does it sound with classical orchestras / dense symphonies? Like Beethoven’s 5th? Based on the name, am hoping it does. And how would it sound in large rooms?

[@2ChannelListening]

For its price point, I’m not sure what you can find that is a better stand mount speaker. The room I had them in was 15’ wide x 22’ deep off an open kitchen. No issues filling this space. Holst sounded fantastic. I did not play 5th from Beethoven off memory.

[@Simplyveej]

@@2ChannelListening Thank you for taking the time to respond, sir!

[@2ChannelListening]

@@Simplyveej absolutely, thank you for watching 👍

[@Simplyveej]

@@2ChannelListening sorry one more question. Between this, and perhaps the floorstanding version from the same company, and the Beethoven baby grand SE, which one would you say would sound the best for Symphonic music? And would the speaker also sound good with rock? The reason I ask is that I have purchased the Tannoy Cheviots three months ago. They sound beautiful for everything, except these two kinds of music. Am in the market for a second pair.

[@2ChannelListening]

@@Simplyveej Well, I have not heard the BMR Towers and their purported sub 30hz bass, I can imagine piano and pipe organ music really hit with the Towers. When it comes to symphonic, orchestral music, I have not heard better below $7,500 than the Vienna Acoustic Beethoven Baby Grand SE. As a general observation with all the speakers I've owned and or reviewed, finding one that acquits orchestral and rock exceptionally well is a difficult ask. I would probably lean towards trying the BMR Towers first in your case - if you have a large space, the BMR Towers have the output capability for both genres. If you spend more time with symphonic music, I would say VA Baby Grand. At the end of the day, you are not tied to either for life, and honestly, you win because both speakers are pretty special.

[@andrea585ny]

Thanks for the review and comparison. Are your Totems V1 or V2?

[@2ChannelListening]

Thank you. I had V.1 Fires.

[@andrea585ny]

@@2ChannelListening Thanks again for this video. The comparisons you make on your reviews are invaluable and greatly appreciated. Ordered BMRs last week (been wanting a pair for years) your direct comparison with Totems gave me a real idea of their sound beyond just measurements. Cheers!

[@2ChannelListening]

@@andrea585ny You are so welcome. Enjoy the heck out of them!

[@suryaneo]

@@andrea585ny Does philharmonic sell fully assembled speakers or do we have to order through Salk Sound ? Thanks

[@andrea585ny]

@@suryaneo They come fully assembled and well packaged. I have the rectangular cabinet in rosewood which cost $1700 + $60 for shipping within the US. The curved are $1900. I can't remember the other veneer option off hand but the rosewood is truly lovely. Cheers

[@RCB2244]

How do these compare to the Wharfedale Evo line..? Particularly, the Evo 4.2 - Similar design and size. Thanks

[@2ChannelListening]

Sorry, couldn't tell you. Never had a pair from the Evo line in hand.

[@scottcarlon6318]

i'd like you to review the salk SS6M. this model has outstanding sound for a small stand mount speaker. would make a fair comparison to the BMR.

[@2ChannelListening]

Lol, do you have a pair I can borrow? I'd love to :-) Thanks Scott.

[@jeffkalina7727]

When you pass the name and model would you consider including some other particulars at the same time? Where it is made, what the price is, what the warranty is and where warranty work is performed? Without this information it is difficult to discern value. Thanks.

[@2ChannelListening]

Good point. I get so used to reviewing 2nd hand products that I forget about support and warranty information with new items. Thanks for asking.

[@tablameister]

The price is on the website posted above. The RAAL tweeter is made in Serbia, the woofer is designed in Denmark and made in Indonesia. Not sure where the Tectonic BMR is made. The speakers are assembled in Taiwan (by Bennic I think). Warranty service is performed in the USA. Dennis Murphy, the designer, is based in the USA and he is very responsive - just send him an email (email address is listed on the website).

[@2ChannelListening]

@@tablameister one correction, the cabinets are shipped in from WA to VA where the final assembly and testing takes place - QC and measurements are taken before shipping to customer. Mr. Murphy has a business partner handling the final QC oversight. Cheers.

[@thomaskahalepuna9604]

Did you watch tv through these? Do they make a good phantoms center?

[@2ChannelListening]

I did, but I personally would prefer the ZU if you are going to add movie watching to the mix. The phantom center was good, nothing remarkable for HT application.

[@simonirvine1628]

Change the woofer if you had to, It's right royal shame when it came down to going for White (Maybe there was zero choice in the matter). I must say the over all finish really looks the part with the Dark Woofer. It would also look good with the cabernet in a mid sheen lacquer finish to bring that extra meanness to the table... By the way, good review....

[@2ChannelListening]

Interesting take, rarely do I fixate on a woofer color, with the exceptions to unfortunate ugly whizzer cones, like my Tektons or the oddly attractive Dali pulp models. That's where grills help. Thank you for watching and leaving a nice comment Simon.

[@mcjonner]

Have you ever heard the css criton 2tdx? I wonder how these compare to them since they are close enough price wise. My ultimate comparison as it would probably decide my next speaker purchase.

[@2ChannelListening]

I have not heard a pair of CSS speakers yet, couldn't give you anything useful.

[@mcjonner]

@@2ChannelListening appreciate the reply

[@mrt6349]

Would love to audition these in Denmark :)

[@2ChannelListening]

Lol, but you can get Rubicon 2 for less than we pay to import! Tough call, but certainly both are great speakers and no loss. I can appreciate the Dali Rubicon build quality, the BMR does have a higher quality crossover. Thanks for watching!

[@MS-cj2oe]

any comment on how the bmr monitors handle the human voice?

[@calvincurry8496]

Would you please Review Salk Audios. " Songtower 2 "? Another Dennis partially designed Speaker!

[@2ChannelListening]

Sure would, if I could easily get my hands on a pair.

[@ianlarson1744]

How would these do with tubes?

[@2ChannelListening]

Tune in Sunday.

[@notes-tones]

Looks similar to the Wharfdale Elysian (bottom ported).

[@2ChannelListening]

The Elysian 2 is a massive stand mount, twice the weight I believe. I'd love to get my hands on a pair of those!

[@dan-qe1tb]

I was ready to buy the Philharmonitor v2s, but the price is up to $3000 for the standard finish: Dennis had warned that they were facing high inflation. I might be getting the Rubicon 2s with a Rythmik sub that has a paper cone

[@2ChannelListening]

Oh man, $3k now...that does change the value quotient a bit. I've notice how all the used gear has equally pushed up 20-30%. I think you have a winning alternative figured out, good luck.

[@dan-qe1tb]

@@2ChannelListeningThe other product that had caught my eye was Salk Songtower II, also at $3000. Two ceramic coated 5 inch drivers and and an AMT.

[@GamerWordDotNet]

The price is the same it's been for a while, $1700-$1900 from Philharmonic audio. $2700-$3000 from Salk Sound. The Salk Sound price is still an amazing deal considering the quality of cabinets you get. If you still haven't upgraded, send Dennis an email and see what his current BMR stock is. Between the BMR and the Salk Songtower ll (from Salk), I'd go with BMR's. Your getting higher quality sound for the price as opposed to paying for a larger cabinet with the Songtower ll's. If you don't care about high quality furniture-grade cabinets, order from Philharmonicaudio and save some money.

[@2ChannelListening]

@@GamerWordDotNet time for me to try the towers. Thank you for this information update. If the BMR's are indeed still available for $1,900, well, that's so much better than what you get with mass produced retail products. Thanks. 👌

[@jeffkalina7727]

Did I understand you to say that in your own home 2-way system you do not use a single or multiple sub bass array system ?

[@2ChannelListening]

Greetings Jeff. Its very simple from my perspective. I review a speaker for its build quality, frequency range capability and if it gets the job done on its own merits. I have a report card I keep for stand mounts that's ever evolving. If I have to integrate a sub and fuss with it, I'm not focused on the actual speaker at hand, and it detracts from the entire picture (for me anyway). Its not that it isn't easy for another subscriber to realize they should or shouldn't plan on a sub, I will mention this with some speakers, like the Sony M3 or Opera Grand Mezza. So, yes, no subwoofer in my system. Not today, probably not next year. :-) I do appreciate your questions though...keep 'em coming.

[@conchobar]

If the BMR driver were more efficient, they would be utilized in more loudspeaker products. His newly released Tower will probably garner the praise the monitor should have received.

[@2ChannelListening]

They look very promising. I can only imagine the in room output, given how responsive the little BMR's are.

[@jawinfl5044]

Is the finish a true wood veneer or vinyl?

[@2ChannelListening]

Looks like a vinyl wrap for how thin and glossy it is. Like I had mentioned, for a few more hundred, it would be worth Salk Sound providing the cabinet.

[@NemoPropaganda]

I hate Dali treble but I must agree there is a tonal richness to the their "wood pulp" midbass driver that really is something special.

[@2ChannelListening]

Thanks Nemo. I will point out they use a fabric dome tweeters, which are just as capable of being over cooked and harsh as metal domes. It is all in brand implementation.

[@dougg1075]

I would kill for that square body Chevy. Roll Tide:)

[@2ChannelListening]

Lol, okay Bama! Yeah, I absolutely miss my 85 K5. Damn what that truck would be worth now!

[@Torulv]

I see you have tried both the Kef R3 and Dali R-2, two speakers I really like the sound of. The Dali R-2 probably with a slight edge. So I am assuming that to some degree we have similar taste. Mostly i like these two units due to how clear they sound, and how clear and natural the vocals sound. How would you say that the Philharmonic BMR V.2 performs in that respect, I know ribbon tweeters helps with high ends and can clear up vocals quite a lot. I don't think I ever will have a chance to listen to these before I potentially buy them. (unless you know about a demontrastion video).

[@2ChannelListening]

I'd thought you'd never ask :-) kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIHIZpd-grKqqck The BMR is a large stand mount, given its height, it portrays a very generous sound stage. The Dali's tweeter is a sweetheart, but I would say when really pushed hard, I lean toward the BMR as the cleaner sounding speaker. All three you mention are very wonderful and so closely matched at their price points. The BMR gives that extra ounce with such an incredible bass response. No one loses being stuck with either three. Comes down to the finest nuance of tone and aesthetic. Thanks for watching!

[@johndavidson5075]

The only thing keeping me away from those is the ribbon tweeter. They always seem to beam at me and I have yet to hear one that doesn’t do that.

[@2ChannelListening]

Placement is key for sure. Thank you for watching.

[@Roudaki677]

Do these come with the stands? If not what stands are you using? Thanks

[@2ChannelListening]

They do not. I use VTI 24" stands from Ebay. Nice and solid steel, three post design.

[@Roudaki677]

@@2ChannelListening thanks

[@thespotlightkid1011]

btw, it must have been about the mid to late 80's when 'Naim' already had one 2-way floor stander on the market... (only well reviewed in the 1 mag'** that carried very far more 'Naim' ad's than all the other mag's combined, coincidently?) ...& took out an ad' in u.k's "Hi'Fi World"** magazine about a soon to come BMR driver'd speaker, as far as I know it didn't happen. They also had a very large e/stat in the works, told of in an interview with a Naim chief & the ed' of that mag & it included pic's of their prototype but that deffinately did not come to fruition. I guessed back then, after trying, they knew speakers were / are not Naim's "thing"

[@2ChannelListening]

I can appreciate an audio company that sticks with what it knows best and doesn't try to get greedy with being everything from the source to the transducers. The role active speakers are playing is going to change all that...

[@thespotlightkid1011]

@2 Channel Listening Yes, I think the 1980's Naim company tried to diversify, but instead they learnt a lesson in sticking to what they did well (tho their phono-stages within their pre-amps never impressed me, I found they copied old basic RCA company's phono-circuits in the public domain back then, "P.S. Audio" pre's at half Naim's price blew them out of the water, phono- stage'wise. & imo of course

[@janulik9535]

perfect, thank you for review again,.... I was thinking about fyne audios florstanders 501 which you reviewed, but I assume philharmonics are better, can you give me shor confirm to that?, even me being in the end of europe I red on Philharmonic site they did already ship to austria so I belive they will here also, and this one, with shipping (about 400) would cost me 2000. so F501 from second hand for about 1000 or if I get creazy about perfection I will get philharmonics for 2K. I realy somhowe always end up on your channel,...cant realy figure out why, but I like it for sure. On top of that, by some coincidance you pulled out brands of the speakers that I have seen recomend to pair with my amp (totem acustics, well for me only the sky is relevant as the price of elements is......, dali, fyne audio).

[@2ChannelListening]

Hello 👋 The BMR are absolutely better than the F501 in every regard. The F501 we’re pretty underwhelming to me, especially at lower listening volume. Yes the BMR are more expensive yet the performance elevation is money well spent. Greater detail, texturally more cohesive, more dynamic and can slap hard when called for.

[@janulik9535]

​@@2ChannelListening Thank you, :), In order to have some reference, because I have chance to audition f501, are the heighs of BMRs more, less or +- at the same level? meaning their strenght/forwardness, not the quality and integration, this one will be obviously better with bmr.

[@x-techgaming]

Violinists are value hunters? What budget amps do you like for speakers like this?

[@2ChannelListening]

“Budget” is very subjective based on who’s money I’m spending 🤷‍♂️

[@OscarHernandez-ym4hx]

How come long speeches never a 5 minute music session on the speaker deacribed. Thank you good friend.

[@theaustralianconundrum]

Can you do some Vinyl bashing sir? I would surely appreciate that! From Australia........... Cheers mate!

[@2ChannelListening]

LOL, can I do some Vinyl bashing...I certainly do not want to alienate the few viewers I do have. I will tell you I have not lacked in the "trying to like it" department, I just CANT! My OCD with noise intrusion, unnatural ambient interference drives me crazy. There are times where I flip the breaker on my fridge because I don't want to hear it in the background. Add static to my music - NO SIR! :-)

[@theaustralianconundrum]

@@2ChannelListening I have friends with 30K turntables and have listened to 100K turntables and my verdict is the same. The precious $200 vinyl discs sound exactly like a vinyl disc spinning at very low speed whilst having a very sharp needle dragged through grooves with the exact "sound" I would expect of such a method. Cheers.

[@dougg1075]

That’s a great price.

[@2ChannelListening]

Given new prices, yep, pretty good for the performance one gets.

[@lsaideOK]

I would spend the extra 500 to $1,000 for in-house built cabinets. I am also not fond of high gloss finishes in general. I've been kind of thrown off the totem brand since I gave their tribes demo at my place. I was not impressed, especially with all the glowing reviews online. $6,000. But you make the element fire sound interesting

[@2ChannelListening]

Yes, these drivers deserve a less plastic looking cabinet. Salk made would be the best way forward for the non-DIY crowd.

[@Shorby99EK]

Just got back from Capital City and these speakers sounded amazing. Just not fond of the China enclosures

[@2ChannelListening]

Thanks Shorby.

[@nancright1352]

amazing 20 years ago .. he told me he was an retiring mail man.. he loved his dogs and re engineered polks and what nots. Jim salk and whom was the other guy salenium ??? madisound board... many hours spent looking wilsom wattt killer. diy ... you better know people hate junk.

[@2ChannelListening]

Indeed

[@janulik9535]

.....holy crap this is such a big speaker???!!!

[@2ChannelListening]

Seriously or facetiously?

[@janulik9535]

@@2ChannelListening Well, a bit of both :), firstly Knowing this is bookshelf its size surprised me a bit, …but of course it is nothing oversized

[@samuelsalins8309]

Technically beautiful....

[@2ChannelListening]

Indeed, you are right there!

[@chrisharding5447]

"MINDCRIME"!

[@pedrocols]

I am also in the "buying only used" wagon. Prices of electronics and speakers is crazy expensive for the average Joe. I would never be able to afford any of these thousands of dollars speakers.

[@2ChannelListening]

Its a good place to be, generally there are lots of choices, just not as much lately. My favorite speakers were bought second hand. No reason to pay for the depreciation if someone else is willing to trade up for the latest and greatest. For me, there are occasions where I have to pony up and buy new because I can never gauge when a pair will be available and in the condition I want it in. Vintage speakers are still awesome like my ADS L1590's.

[@yttean98]

Just a small suggestion coming for someone who has read, listen and view many speakers on KZbin and many media. I think this review is too long. You can shorten it and still make your points, you can take whatever you like it is your channel after all. Good luck. BTW my friends built the above speaker lookalike ie using ribbon, tectonic and 6-7" bass drivers. It sounded very smooth and really not my kind of sound, ie no life to it. I am not saying your speakers will sound similar.

[@2ChannelListening]

Thanks for the tip!

[@JG-gg9wk]

Mr. Talk Talk

[@zzt231gr]

Your vid is excellent but the background and the lighting makes my eyes bleed!I had to lower brightness and contrast to watch it!

[@2ChannelListening]

Lol, its a work in progress. Thanks for watching through the pain! :-)

[@sc0or]

I wonder, what's a problem to play some free music to give us a clue about the sound? Sure, we won't hear all details, but it's easy to get some first impression. I put into my BL everyone who only talks. To say something gives less truth than to play even via YT. To say something costs nothing. This is not a blame. This is a law of nature.

[@2ChannelListening]

There are a lot of hoops to jump through to provide such. Thank you ScOor.

[@monx]

playback speed: 1.75x 😜

[@2ChannelListening]

I bet that sounds funny 😁 Thanks for giving me a go!

[@latle111]

Don't get Rel + bmr v2. Get the BMR towers.

[@2ChannelListening]

The new towers are seriously appealing.

[@latle111]

@@2ChannelListening Agree. Legit audiophile subwoofer bass with those Scan Speak Revelator woofers.

[@carlsitler9071]

Looks like sand cap resistors in the crossover which are cheap junk.

[@2ChannelListening]

Show me some non-DIY speakers under $5K that doesn't have sandcast resistors. I've seen sandcast resistors in product far more expensive than the BMR's. Yes, it would be nice to see a few mills resistors, it doesn't take that much away from profitability.

[@drblaze3850]

That's sad to hear. The kit allows you to upgrade all the components, I just assumed that they would be using decent stuff in the retail versions. The only issue with the kit is that its Ver 1.

[@OrganNLou]

The speakers seem to be VERY inefficient!

[@2ChannelListening]

What other stand mounts are you comparing them to? Maybe Dennis is more honest with stated measurements than most. The Dali Rubicon 2 and Sierra 2EX are all within that same range by 1db.

[@planetag310]

That is a huge chonk of speaker, dude! Not wife-friendly.

[@2ChannelListening]

On the contrary, my wife thought it was beautiful and acceptable just about anywhere...but I'm lucky that way! :-)

[@planetag310]

@@2ChannelListening Yes, you certainly are!

[@oluhamilton2121]

simple.....they look weird.

[@2ChannelListening]

Eye of the beholder for sure, a nice Salk cabinet fixes some of that weirdness. I admit, in person, I wouldn't go with this cabinet, too glossy for my taste. Lots of other ways to improve the optics. However, the sound is rock solid!

[@josephpearson2]

@@2ChannelListening I've got them in the piano black finish. For me, they look great because they don't call attention to themselves. Diff'rent strokes.

[@billiondollarbaby3276]

If nobody has heard of them they would been impossible to sell without losing more than 50-60% of your money (At least). In this hobby you will die if you keep flipping gear and losing that kind of money. Stick to the tried and true....lose 20% and live to fight another day.

[@2ChannelListening]

So you mean boring, same old same old mainstream players? Not the river I paddle up :-)

[@michaelgrissom6103]

Turns out they are easy to sell and you will lose less money on these than other brands. Like the reviewer says they are difficult to find on the used market and when you do they are only a couple hundred dollars off. I bought a pair of the monitors and the longer I own them the better I like them. Just ordered a pair of the Towers. These are end game speakers for me. Of course it depends on what you like.

[@Ivy13276]

@@michaelgrissom6103 what did you upgrade from?

[@michaelgrissom6103]

@@Ivy13276 I had a pair of VMPS RM 30 SII, Wharfedale Lintons, and KLH model 5's. The VMPS were getting old and the midrange drivers were starting to sound springy to me. So I was looking for something to replace them with. I tried the KLH and the Lintons. I liked the KLH better than the Lintons but others lean the other way. (The midrange is clearer and the bass sounded a little more natural than the Lintons to me.) I am very sensitive to midrange and voices. These little monitors sound better than the KLH to me with a wider variety of music. I would say they equal the VMPS in bass and have a more natural high end. The VMPS had the most natural midrange but I could not replace the drivers so they went to the speaker graveyard. I could have lived with the KLH but decided to try the BMR monitors intending to send them back. However after a couple days of listening I decided I was going to keep the BMR's and sell the other speakers. ( This is not what I wanted to do.) They just sound better to me on a wider veriety of music. This may have something to do with my electronics as well. I am using Luxman L 507ux and was ready to purchase a McIntosh Integrated amp because some reveiwers say there is a synergy with Mc and the KLH. But I never got to that. I have had these for 3 months now and the BMR's keep amazing me.

[@Ivy13276]

@Michael Grissom thank you the KLH model 5 comparison helps a lot! Now I would need to know how they compare to the s400 Mkii and the Knight 1 that Tharbamar raves about

[@philippusviridi6527]

Two ads I could not skip. Do you really think you are going to make money from this video? Go pound sand.

[@ianjohnhorwood2605]

Utter rubbish, that's all I have to say.

[@2ChannelListening]

THANKS :-)

[@slyfoxx8540]

Don't watch then😂