I STARTED THIS VIDEO THINKING SHAJAR WOULD BE BROKEN WITH PHILIP… but I think the timing of her healing buff tragically overlaps with Philip. So it’s still good buuuuuut I think the William combo will actually be more powerful with the right inscriptions. But maybe the William damage factor is just too low these days? Drop a comment! It could just be that Philip + Echelon is good enough, even if the second commander doesn’t AOE buff.
@Batmandle4 күн бұрын
You were actually wrong a bit Chis 2:46 if Guan Yu skill does not trigger extra damage Joan skill is not gonna unleash as well except if Lilith want some change, about Shajar buff they are two seperate type of buff so you would need that and boost effects from legendary inscriptions
@Fabianvd944 күн бұрын
Aren’t we rage capping most turns anyway? Diminishing returns on a rage machine?
@Al-ze6uo4 күн бұрын
@@Fabianvd94if you rage cap every turn, you activate your active skill every 5 seconds... In reality it's rather around 7-8 seconds (at least for me) if i stay connected to the target
@teeee85343 күн бұрын
no you dont understand, hermann p is the best choice with philip ii, hy hermann p? first to all of you who used hermann p know that hermann p rely on ultimate skill to stack poison, philip ii is the best partner to let him do that, and also once he reached 25 stacks poison, he will release another ultimate, but it is unknown if this passive ultimate skill will link to philip ii passive, if it works, it will be OP downside is, you need leadership gear to give philip ii, plus zhugeliang need a replacement partner for hermann p , that replacement would be boudica prime
@Andrew_the_gamer2 күн бұрын
echelon multiplies by 1.2 but the increase in buff cannot be more than 5% of original value. so if a commander buffs 10% defense to other then with echelon it will be 10.5% defense only not 12%. otherwise this formation would get out of hands.
@palaimonrok4 күн бұрын
Cheeseburgerer Zhuge L Philip :) 30% all dmg, 10% instant 800 aoe dmg, 65% archer health, 20% chance for double active skills for ZL, 1500 aoe dmg with no percentage reduction per hit, 10% all dmg marquis effect, 15% all dmg reduction, 50% silence immunity, 5% archer all dmg, and a 100 rage reduction. What else can you ask more?😂 It's literally 45% all dmg at one point. Approximately 18,200 total skill dmg factor if it manages to hit 5 targets.
@dongandon40874 күн бұрын
It's just your dream, Herman solos
@TinaMira-o7i3 күн бұрын
On ur dream
@palaimonrok3 күн бұрын
@@dongandon4087 Nah, I mentioned everything on ZL and Philip kit 45% all dmg, 65% health. Those are facts not opinion based
@teeee85343 күн бұрын
herman p better with philip ii, actually hermann need spam ultimate than ZL, hermann p will release another ultimate skill if 25 stacks poison reached, BUT it is unknown this passive ultimate release will link ti philip ii passive, to cast one more time, if yes, its op
@redbluegreen10624 күн бұрын
Nice and is a mythical armament transfer system being incorporated as well? Who has echelon armaments?
@elviscaka16734 күн бұрын
In an artifact kvk, if you put an artifact on him will all the stats on his second skill work for only one troop type? That would be broken.
@zkx24174 күн бұрын
Thirddd. Philip lowkey crazy with hermann. Zhuge and lui che. But lui che might overrage. Also i think ashur philip would be a deadly rally 🙃 (Attila Philip could be a cooking counter rally)
@catchyourdrift4 күн бұрын
As infa main, I'll definitely invest on Philip 2- Shajar pairing😊 Finally found tanky and fast leadership support.
@realjohnlove3 күн бұрын
18:52 I would think Philip is a long game commander. Somebody I can use as a secondary until I get the best meta pair. Example: my restart has Huo (maxed), Nevsky (maxed), Joan (5225). My only option is to invest in William or use Mehmed. I’m using Mehmed. If I use Philip thats a placeholder for until the next Cav commander. Then when I start on Zhuge I can just pair with Philip until I get Hermann to 5551/4. Then same with Liu or Braveheart or Ragnar. I just work on them & have a secondary to already pair. Now I have 4 marches with Philip giving me some breathing room for when I work on a 5th march. We won’t be getting new Cavs for awhile. Especially if they do another Ranged cycle in February/March. Then we’re waiting until May. I predict we’re gonna get another Ragnar Prime situation mid commander releases. But this is all theory.
@teeee85343 күн бұрын
best pair with philip is hermann p, cos herman p need spam ulti skill to do a lot damage, hermann p expertise allows him to spam one more time skill when poison stack reached 25, this is the perfect partnership philip ii and hermann p, but downside is, you need leadership gear, also you need replacement to pair with ZL, but i think most people has boudica prime benched long time ago, so she can be the best replacement
@realjohnlove3 күн бұрын
@ couldn’t you just run Hermann primary?
@xcp843 күн бұрын
I wanted to max out Ashur, but the way I see things, I'll go for Philip
@kimkong41634 күн бұрын
Great video ❤ support formation really got some nice buffs to offer but i think healing formation very promising ..i mean you raise healing power and have a chance for a retrigger😂😂😂
@strat3g1cal414 күн бұрын
So I can tell you I have been using Trajan with Skippy prime and he is so Tanky in champions of Olympia that it’s almost game breaking the only other better match than that one is the pairing with Honda+Trajan, it’s sickening how good they are together.
@realjohnlove3 күн бұрын
We needed a universal secondary to replace Aethel/Mehmed/Honda. Philip is what we needed
@Zamer274 күн бұрын
Please do the investment guide before the RP event is over 🙏 I'm still on the fence whether I should upgrade RP or LC as my very first expertise. People keep saying LC but my gut is telling to go for ScipioP/RP exp. Maybe I'll just stick with how I wanna play the game. And it's not like I'd be wasting ghs with RP.
@kevinbrown50934 күн бұрын
Bruh LC is a no brainer…
@Zamer274 күн бұрын
@kevinbrown5093 I like to be a brainer though...
@LokThapa-y7t4 күн бұрын
Bro if you have done scipio prime then I think its better to do ragnar prime cuz both are skill damage commanders. And another thing is that many players have invested in wedge formation which will not help liu che at all. Liu che is strong than ragnar prime still still best combo is skill dmg +skill damage commander.
@Sylsatra4 күн бұрын
What about using the delta formation inscription? Increasing the odds of triggering😮
@woutgaming96854 күн бұрын
Me who already made a vid about the Echelon with Philip and its insane inscriptions op punchin in the air rn
@mulanrok15604 күн бұрын
Chisgule is trying to say what he needs for his marches 🤭
@Mr.B_Gambles4 күн бұрын
Is there gonna be another test trial drop like they did with Ragnar
@mohammedfaris76104 күн бұрын
Chis, if i add only one unit of a different troop type and it gets sev wounded or dies will the third skill buffs still apply for the rest of the army?
@xDread4 күн бұрын
no, the wounded troops don't activate those buffs/debuffs
@carnagebersekergaming76614 күн бұрын
Artifact kvk, just convert Philip to 1 troop type and become OP
@WanderingWithDolphins4 күн бұрын
Ragnar dmg will only be 2200 because of the duration of the Phillip buff also I think in general he’s a bit overestimated.
@Rodgers654 күн бұрын
Philips 800 proc does 1680 aoe 3 second cooldown just like alex 1700. He also technically has 70 all dmg vs alex 70 atk so maybeee liu/philip is the new cheeseburger
@user-sb1xq1su4r4 күн бұрын
Unrelated question. I just maxxed ragnar prime if he gets surrounded will he drain all surrounding enemies' attack?
@ChrisJohns883 күн бұрын
One thing that I am curious about.. Philip’s second skill.. could an Artifact change all those different troop type buffs to 1 troop type? If so, 105% of stats from one skill seems kinda busted.
@dadmath4444 күн бұрын
I swear, Ragnar P and Philip are designed especially for the big spenders who keep on crying that their Inf gear with leadership talent had become useless.
@LokThapa-y7t4 күн бұрын
Ragnar prime is for all players .Guan these days is very squisy
@WaterMelon-Cat4 күн бұрын
Would Sargon primary get Philips buff for the latter portion of his skill?
@realjohnlove3 күн бұрын
I guess Im wondering why they didn’t make Philip “combo damage” That would have made more sense
@anis26424 күн бұрын
I think I have to bench my idea to invest in older commander like Chandra just because gives 15%reduction during skill cycle because does commander seems so strong like what is gonna be next gen of commanders
@johnclark57014 күн бұрын
You were going to invest in Chandra....
@dongandon40874 күн бұрын
This commander is so interesting, so many interesting new pairs
@davidw.51854 күн бұрын
"Good game design should lead you in a direction, then reward you for going in the direction." Engineering players are like; 🙄....
@M4dDuck4 күн бұрын
For real 😂😂😂😂
@Mikaela_Kohai4 күн бұрын
As someone who uses Ranged, I haven't noticed any difference yet.
@dendenmushi54583 күн бұрын
No one have leadership gear and echelon lol. I thought my idea liu che+ philips double double skill is mind blowing enough lol
@arne-h5e4 күн бұрын
Who should I pair my Liu Che with as a same season entering KVK 3
@hosam394 күн бұрын
Scipio/ Wallace/Alex/
@mentalist91672 күн бұрын
It is a bit typical of a high spender to ignore the fact that Phillip can replace/ upgrade Alex for those value players who were using Liu che + Alex in their murderball. Also , william with Phillip has no defensive stats apart from temporary defence and some damage takem reduction. Of course this doesnt matter to whales with iconic/ crit / awakened equipment. So this content is for whales . But so ehales need this content, they have every commander and every equipment maxed , they can just try whatever they like , till they find their preferred setup.
@Chisgule2 күн бұрын
I’m sure you realize that it’s not necessary to be rude when you leave a comment 🤣
@pavelmv73674 күн бұрын
Whats better 10% Defense o 5% Skill Damage ???
@aljazo33554 күн бұрын
I was thinking joan philip for crazy double casts or philip scipio like trajan scipio was good
@WaterMelon-Cat4 күн бұрын
The double casts actually slow down the skill cycle because each cast there is a 1 second down time. Having two commanders double cast means 4 seconds of down time, which wpukd drastically increase the skill cycle length. The damage will be high, but the cycling will actually be slower
@jeffa86834 күн бұрын
Is honda dead or does this give him alittle life?
@packfresh54674 күн бұрын
That's alot of money investment but I would like to see if it's actually good or not
@lizardjesus30604 күн бұрын
Philip is
@Al-ze6uo4 күн бұрын
We need philip secondary testing!😅 I'm happy you got your leadership gear, but we don't, so you'll get more views if you test smth relevant for us
@Fin99194 күн бұрын
Never underestimate the power of the Vergina
@zombie500able4 күн бұрын
Why is William on the thumbnail?
@Rok720pasport4 күн бұрын
Chisgule is trying to sell us another trash commander only for whales
@Chisgule4 күн бұрын
Did you watch the video? I explained at the end who should be investing in this hero
@mohammedfaris76104 күн бұрын
Phillip with Ragnar, Guan off the bench with Scipio take it or leave it
Guess what you missed shajar secondary doin true damage which doesn’t care about philip all damage 🤷🏻♂️
@abdulaziz07-t6u4 күн бұрын
Minamoto Attack 85 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@F.A.T.1.S4 күн бұрын
Yes
@KingOfking-h4t4 күн бұрын
Does Philip have to be a primary. For Philip's experience to work?
@Chisgule4 күн бұрын
No, he does not have to be primary for his expertise to work
@teeee85343 күн бұрын
chisgule, the secret combo best pair with philip will be hermann p, but downside is, you need switch to leadership gear, why hermann p? first to all of you who used hermann p know that hermann p rely on ultimate skill to stack poison, philip ii is the best partner to let him do that, and also once he reached 25 stacks poison, he will release another ultimate, but it is unknown if this passive ultimate skill will link to philip ii passive, if it works, it will be OP
@guillermolozano28383 күн бұрын
Question is: Whos willing to spend the money to try all this lmao
@Gamblor104 күн бұрын
Leadership Gear: lack of this I dont think is an issue. You're mono typing the march anyways, so just use the weakest gear, i.e., fewest crits. For what its worth, we had people roast an Autarch on circle inscription before we even knew the numbers of CY; just based on the existence of the commander and assumption it would be good. For science, you should just grab the echolen inscription or at least save it until he's released and bit the bullet. Worst case is, you just whale another 8 shards
@JuanAndres4203 күн бұрын
LC / PHILIP
@gun53774 күн бұрын
go 🎉
@marky_xx4 күн бұрын
cant leadership coms use troop specific gears? like dragon set?
@avatazutara4 күн бұрын
Don't believe this dude, wait until the test results.
@Chisgule4 күн бұрын
Not sure if you watched the video, but isn’t the second thing I said to wait for the test results? lol