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[@handcraftedspecimen8695]

Philip DeFranco what did I read on trump's twitter about selling weapons to south korea

[@0Flamed]

+Philip DeFranco can you please talk about the Burma massacare,

[@Bradum]

On her facebook: "... racism isn't learned, it's inherited..." In the Interview: "No one is born racist, they're conditioned by society..." Wait... what?

[@Fainora]

Its 2 ways of saying the same thing.

[@kieran6417]

I inherited my height from my dad, you can't get tall from living in society... See the difference? (Not the same thing)

[@bibby201]

Fainora not really one implies that if you are white you a racist there is no way you are not its in your blood. The other is saying that we learn to be racist but are not born that way.

[@voronwethefaithful1615]

Bradum why is everyone saying her and she thats not what he is

[@bibby201]

Voronwë The faithful because if someone wants to be called something is does me no harm to call them that im not put on this earth to be a goalie my man

[@SleepSoul]

I like how she went from "Racism is not learned, it's inherited" to "People are not born racist". That's some pretty goddamn direct self-contradiction.

[@tonypeppermint5329]

Simon The Human Yep. Probably didn't even knew it.

[@GingerBreaddMann]

Simon The Human I don't mind walking things back. But talking in absolutes and then trying to "cover your ass", lying just doesn't float with me.

[@nfzeta128]

It honestly just proves that she's more affected by the very social system that brings up racists that she's talking about. She's just on the other side. Honestly it seems too much history is taught to black people in a way to just make them feel so much more hate than is needed. This spreads in a society until people seem to assume anyone not a full blown ally - and sometimes even then - is the enemy and the same as the very people of the past.

[@ieatdomo]

she pulled the "im not racist, i have ____ friends"

[@SleepSoul]

Tio Tyler Both unfortunately and ironically, I do not understand the concept of your comment.

[@mattyb797]

She said "racism isn't learned, it's inherited" in her rant, and then said "people are not born racist" in her interview. Sound like she either has no clue what she's talking about or knows she was wrong but won't admit it.

[@MissChinBK99]

Well, if one is confused about their gender then what did you expect really?

[@curlykoala696]

matty b Exactly dude, I was going to point out the exact same thing. I would like to see her called out on that particular thing.

[@haootic]

*him

[@therusticbelle4802]

YES. Most people who are bitter/out for personal gain usually talk in circles. She's not speaking out against racism because she's passionate about it and it moves her and feels like it needs to change, she's talking about it because she thinks it feeds her ego. Hence why she won't admit that she's wrong in how she went about it. You can't be using social platforms as a way to argue everything wrong with people. You can educate people, you can give people facts, but when you're be belittling others, you're essentially already on that person that you're ranting about level.

[@donwon4658]

FuzzzWuzzz He lolz

[@allegedwriter]

Does "I've got many many allies of all races" sound suspiciously like "I've got lots of black friends" to anyone else?

[@chayden153]

Nicholas Bouchard it does

[@ilDuderoni]

Lesson being: Don't do blanket statements, they have a tendency to blow up in your face.

[@k_a_y_l_e_e]

other way around, friend lol.

[@brianatkins6183]

oh the irony

[@scandisnowgirl3696]

Free Speech NOT actually scientifically true though! Bc intersex!

[@Kerel94]

What about xxy's though?

[@dominantpersona3326]

Scandi Snowgirl Lmao... You do realise hermaphrodites do not classify as male or female... So the initial comment is right.

[@BlackSalamander439]

Let's fight racism with racism, because that worked in the past.

[@Saintzel]

Wojciech Dziedzic works well with fire. But everything in between is burnt to the ground anyways

[@stephenmc8151]

Race War???

[@dancorwin9232]

Stephen Mc race war!!

[@ScaroRussell]

WOOOOO LETS GO RACE WAR

[@metalhead11t6]

Don't you know? You can't be racist towards White people!

[@kes_r]

"ALL white people" "I didn't mean ALL white people!" k.

[@Havanah-ov4yt]

Smaguris there was more to it and you know it

[@distressedkermit336]

Havanah4265 she should of clarified her point in the original tweet.

[@BlueHazyDreams]

The problem is the minute you throw the word racist around white people aren't listening anymore and are ready to defend themselves. They equate racism with direct acts of hate and violence against a person of color. It's not a good idea to use that word imo. All white people DO benefit from privilege that comes at the cost of a racist society. Some people would argue this fits under the definition of racism and I believe that's where "all white people are racist" comes from.

[@oats8854]

Syvelocin Privliges such as... and I want evidence to back it up as well

[@OneNot]

Well, the Loreal case is very clear cut. She was specifically (assumably) hired for her supposed message of equality. She then goes on to make public statements that out her as a racist pos and gets fired. Assuming they didn't actually legally break an agreement of some sort, Loreal is completely justified in firing her. Case closed.

[@NightStar787]

Indeed. But of course people are focusing more on the fact that she is a transgendered black woman than the reasons behind her hiring in the first place.

[@gingercore69]

SuperN3M3515 more than half of the people ive met are from lgbt community... Many of them trans... About 2 out of ten trans people ive met have some kind of psichiatric or similar problem... About 2 out of 3 heterosexual cis people ive met have some psychiatric problem... As someone who mostly meets people in hospitals or parties, its not really a fair comparision... But it shows how the perception of the group depends on the selected individuals...im part of the non trans but crazy, and im not even mildly nuts, i literally have a legal certificate that says i must travel always with a caretaker, because if meds fail, ill probably cause problems... I have something i dont know the name, but is like bipolar dissorder that gets trigered by specific situations and might get delusions or halucinations if its a really bad case... I only had those episodes 2 or 3 times, meds work wonders and it never happened again... Because of that reason i only met trans people at parties, and met most cis people when i go to psychiatric hospitals... Chances are, most people ther will be cis, and all of them have some reason to be there... Tldr: depends where you find the transexuals...

[@IslaJolene]

But didn't you know you can only be a racist if you're white (being very sarcastic btw)

[@zachhoover1276]

She said in the text that racism is inherited which is why all white people are racist, however, said in the interview that it is taught by society. what

[@KuroAcedia]

Zach Hoover YES I also immediately noticed that and was wondering why no one else pointed that out. Like her entire argument is so flawed it's ridiculous

[@lucaleone4331]

That was my biggest confusions. Someone should have just read her the quote and just looked at her with one eye brow raised.

[@nadiahyaacob2011]

Zach Hoover she's contradicting herself. I dont think shes clear with whatever shes trying to convey

[@seigeengine]

Again though, white supremacy isn't some big thing. There are white supremacists, but they're not particularly common.

[@zl198922]

I'm a white male who for years has advocated for gender equality and race equality. The comments made by this "model" really bother me. I have supported and worked towards equality for my entire adult life and now i'm being called a sexist and a racist. People like her only further the divide.

[@pope6789]

Z1989 Wake up, amigo. These people pushing social justice are the new priests of the world's newest religion. They don't care about racism any more than a reverend cares about people jacking off. They care that making you eternally guilty will keep you and your money showing up to grow their power.

[@CocoJones397]

Z1989 Why did it bother you? You know that the things she said was completely one sided. When people generalize like that, I say is BS. Just accept the fact that people like this exist. Not just on her side, but on BOTH sides.

[@rakhoon8596]

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" -Evelyn Beatrice Hall

[@fraudcatchers]

If you've worked towards equality your whole adult life, then she wasn't talking to you

[@fraudcatchers]

Z1989 but I have to say, I agree that she didn't have to say that & what she said was wrong- it scared me when she said all white people are just born racist or whatever--

[@lizzyquezada1197]

I'm a dreamer and when I found the news about the ending for this program I was in tears. Not because of the fear of being sent to Mexico. It was because I have work my ass off to make it in this country. I graduated high school with amazing grades and I was part of many things in school. When I graduated I was going to college full time and working. I have may nights when I didn't sleep because I had to stay up late doing home work and waking up early the next day to work. I now work full time and I still go to school. I'm scared of losing my job and not being able to go to school.

[@JohnB-dr8sk]

Sorry Lizzy, but Americans don't want you guys to be legalized, because your parents committed a crime bringing you here, and it would be totally unfair to all the legal immigrants who've waited 10-20 years to get legal status. It's also because nearly all of you support radical Left-wing politicians and communist leaders who hate America and are trying to destroy it right now. Most legal immigrants, on the other hand, love America for what it stands for. It's not that we have singled you guys out because of your hispanic background, but because you are cheaters trying to circumvent the system and who will vote in communism the first chance you get. You should self depot to Mexico and try to make your homeland great instead of relying on us to do that for you. Best of luck

[@aldeno8055]

John B That's like throwing a college graduate in jail because their parents commuted a crime 5 years ago. Honestly if the immigrations system takes 10-20 years maybe we should look at that since it's the real problem, illegal immigration is just the symptoms.

[@violetmoon6233]

Lizzy Quezada sending you love from Australia and hope your ok. I immigrated here from another country as a teen. Best wishes hope all your hard work pays off.

[@abbysynthe5095]

From...."Come see me when you realize that racism isn't learned, it's inherited...." to "I'm talking about how we are conditioned to believe certain things in society...nobody is born racist..." The back peddling is strong with this one.

[@kajuska99]

I'm from the Czech republic, a small slavic country in central Europe. The population is predominantly white (first time I saw a black person - in real life, not on TV - was at college, and he was a foreign exchange student). My country never enslaved, colonised or exploited any other nation, often times we were the ones who was occupied and exploited. I have never had any benefit from "white supremacy". When I see what is happening in the US and how its popular to say that ALL white people are racist it offends me. This person was just blatantly racist and completely unapologetic about it.

[@kishinumaayumi]

kajuska99 yup... a lot of people think what happened between the races in the US happened worldwide.. it didn't..

[@Peglegkickboxer]

kajuska99 I'm polish and I agree. Honestly, with the way people like us are getting vilified just for our skin color is starting to make me racist. Just so tired of it.

[@kajuska99]

I also forgot that thanks to 40 years of communism our country was in shambles in the 90s when I was born, so this "opressed" moron is actually much more privileged than I was or will ever be.

[@goat3025]

You are not even seen as white if you're from eastern europe... there is a clear distinction between the West- and East-Europe.. Trust me come to Denmark a country where basically everyone is equal and racism is minimum there still is a clear distinction if you're from the Western-Europe or if you're from let say Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland etc. eastern europeans are basically the butt of all jokes they're the blacks of europe. So i wouldn't be too fast to hop on the bandwagon

[@goat3025]

+peglegkickboxer Soooo what you are saying is you're tired of people putting all encompassing labels on you, so to combat that you in turn do the exact same? where is the logic in that. And btw if someone saying something is making u racist i.e giving u a inferiority complex or you feeling that you're superior or better than them then you were already a racist.. You don't just become a racist...

[@miss_bec]

The instant you blanket blame a whole race for racism, you become a hypocrite. No fancy rules about it, that's just the straight truth that she refuses to admit because she either knows her ship is sinking but is trying to stay afloat, or never knew that she was the one to make it sink in the first place.

[@Odinsday]

Idiot logic: I'm going to fight racism with racism. Yup! Nothing wrong there.....

[@miss_bec]

Charlie Murr, it never ceases to turn heads.

[@GuruJudge21]

She's an even bigger hypocrite than that because her mom is white.

[@user-gd2bu3xr6b]

GuruJudge21 Really? Oh then she probably "iherited ,(the racism), unconsciously " it was "passed down through privilege " ....please don't take my comment seriously

[@kyls6827]

The fact that she said "y'all" when she's British is enough to annoy me 😂

[@spacekoalalove]

Someone said it lol

[@rwiersema]

I've never heard any1 use the "Its ok, I've got a white friend" excuse before.

[@bjrocks999]

She's literally using the "I have a black friend" argument when she says "I've got allies, I have many many allies of all races."

[@spencer8440]

bjrocks999 Yeah but black friend argument is more meaningful because it's a friend. but black people generally don't like these 'allies' because these allies a virtuous do-gooder dummies

[@Anamnesia]

Sounds like she's backpedaling after losing her job over her rant. If that's _NOT_ the case, then why did she delete the Tweets? 🤔

[@koriechaney5627]

Matterking but *she* would like to be pronounced as a *she*

[@Anamnesia]

When it comes to Transgender, I've got no issue if they want to be called "she"... I'm just not a fan of the Ze, Zir, or any of the other 61 made-up Gender Pronouns! 🙃

[@kwazhims3lf]

she deleted them because it would look bad after applying at mcdonalds

[@elperronimo]

>she

[@koriechaney5627]

Anamnesia I was making a joke that's why I bolded it in black

[@gavmcdonald7684]

Racism is racism no matter who says it. People often conflate institutional racism with individual racism. What Munroe Bergdorf said in her post was racist. "...the racial violence of white people any more. Yes ALL white people,". Yes historically white cultures have been racist but so have almost every other culture in existance and there are racist institutions today. On the top of my head Liberia's nationality law is racist, The treatment of foriegn workers in Saudi Arabia, especially South Asian workers, has been criticised by the HRW as racist. Racism exists in the world in all forms and colours. To say that "Whites" are more racist than anyone else is idiotic; everyone is capable of racism and no one has a higher inclination due to their skin colour. The Importance here is to realise we're all human beings; just because we look or sound different doesn't mean we shouldn't be treated the same. Martin Luther King really hit the mark with his I have A Dream Speech: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

[@savage1267]

Gav McDonald Qatar…

[@ThisIsMattsLife]

I can't be racist though because I'm white. You have to be one of the bad races to be racist duh /s

[@maggiekarabel123]

Gav McDonald I don't think white people are inherently more racist than any other race. It's just that white people have more money and power so racism and it's effects is magnified. The most racist people I know are actually Brazilian, relatives of relatives, I was shocked by some of the things I witnessed. I'm Eastern European and Quaker, I have ancestors who were indentured servants who escaped genocide and ancestors who were a part of the Underground Railroad. I don't know if racism is inherited because I didn't inherit it.

[@dakotadavey496]

Gav McDonald Not to mention the white genocide in South Africa... which has even been promoted by African government officials. Yes, this is something that happens to all people of all ethnicities. On the flip side you could also look at how America as well as a lot of other white majority countries were the first to abolish slavery which is still around to this very day in some countries.

[@tianamatson]

I know right!! That's exactly what I was thinking. If she were to try to work in Korea she's receive WAY more racism than she ever will in the US and UK.

[@kylaw2593]

One reason I love the Philip DeFranco Show comments section is all of the insightful well-thought-out debates that happen

[@LittleLuckyLotus]

KylaW sometimes...if you’re lucky you will find some..other times not so much

[@angelinagarcia7673]

Idk if someone went on a rant generalizing all black people into being something they're not they would be fired too. She's racist, that's all there is too it.

[@anno-8473]

Being of Irish descent the fact that some model is telling me that all white people oppressed everybody else is appalling. My ancestors came America and then decided that the racism against the Irish was worse then the potato famine. Their grandchildren came back after that crap was no longer prominent. I'm just so tired of how 'privileged' and 'oppressive' I am even though I'm just some lower middle class Irish guy.

[@jessicainvisable]

Sean Turska don't forget how 30,000 Irish prisoners were sold as slaves to the New World. My great-grandma was sold to a guy that lived here in America. I grew up listening to her stories. It's a part of history ppl just seem not to care about, because us Irish are pale as Shit therefor; white privilege. -_- (anyway I'm glad not everyone forgot. Thanks for leaving this comment.)

[@sexymangalvon]

Lots of irish where slaves, tons of whites were slaves in asia and in middle east, But only whites are racist appearantly, I have to love people as herself and i hope your ancestors did not suffer a lot =/

[@alondracruz6124]

I was brought to the US when I was 3, I have DACA and I just feel extremely outraged by the decision to end it. There are finger prints and background checks that have to be done, there's a lot of money that has to be spent every 2 years just to renew it. We do not qualify to get any government help so everyone that has DACA works and/or go to school, like me. I pay taxes, my mom pays taxes, we're contributing to society. It's ridiculous, everything we do benefits this county, but it's still not good enough. Now Home Land Security has all our information, we can get deported and go back to a county we don't even know. This is our home, and we're being kicked out.

[@No1More1Mr1Nice1Guy1]

no one said you're being kicked out! DACA was only ever meant to be a very temporary bandaid, and never to last this long. Its just a shame the democrats didnt sort this mess out when they could, but why do that when they can stoke up resentment against trump? Wait for the resolution to come out of congress, where more than likely there will be a path to citizenship, but its obvious the US cant keep accepting people into it just because some want to be there, it isnt fair to citizens who legally immigrated or were born here.

[@TheOddTony]

I believe that they should take the dreamers and set them on a fast-tracked path to citizenship. Let them become full citizens, not the quasi status that DACA gave them. This way, they can stay in this country and continue to contribute to society.

[@kwristal00]

L'Oreal is a huge brand. They have EVERY right to protect their brand. It doesn't matter if you are white, black, orange, boy, girl, alien...those remarks were against what L'Oreal finds acceptable to represent their brand. And she has EVERY right to say what she said. Just not employed with them.

[@rain1676]

Krystal Mead ...

[@DEMONX62]

Krystal Mead The funny part is that the trans model was hired because of the skin color and being trans as part of a diversity campaign and then she complains about privilege.

[@pickledparsleyparty]

She sure does have that right. Nonetheless, it's outrageously ignorant and inflammatory, so it's completely expected if a lot of people dislike her, now.

[@JohnyScissors]

Well with a modeling agency when what you look like is a key factor of your employment, that's completely fair for them to hire her because she's black and trans. That's the look they want so that is the look they get

[@ripwitch9833]

They also probably didn't want her words to reflect on the company and have everyone think that they believe (or at least okay with calling) all white people the problem as well.

[@kaskus7147]

She said right in her rant "racism is not learned it is inherited". She made the same kind of sweeping generalizations that get made by racists. When you capitalize the word ALL you are including everyone. It would take take the change of the race she was talking about to make people see it for what it was. If she had said ALL Mexicans or Muslims are terrible people then would have agreed that it was a racist rant. I am not a fan of racism I do try to keep people that have those feelings out of my life, but we need to understand that white people are not the only people that are and can be racists.

[@dylanhegarty4398]

I'm a white person from Ireland, we've never tried to colonise or invade any countries or cultures in our past & we are the natives of this country. I don't see how I'm inherently racist because I'm a white person, especially after what my ancestors have went through. She should check her facts, what she said is incredibly racist.

[@No1More1Mr1Nice1Guy1]

Ireland helped Great Britain in her wars, and no no people are native to an island. Too many think that the irish sprang from a peat bog, giving them some kind of false knowledge that they belong in ireland but protestants don't.

[@HK-jb6hi]

Laverne Blaszczyk yes, as a 1.5 gen korean Australian, I completely agree. The woman is stuck in a sad state of mind that sees anyone who is not in her special bubble to be an enemy; it is dangerous, ignorant and insulting, especially regarding the very incorrect and narrow minded nature of her generalised statements. Seriously, as a citizen of a multi cultural country who’s friends of european decent were taught nothing but lovely and accepting attitudes towards anyone regardless of colour gender or sexuality, her whole “racism is inherited” statement that antagonises anther race just pisses me off.

[@Bemadabava]

Munroe Bergdorf is mixed with Caucasian so her statement makes me feel like she has something against her "white" blood. I hope that my mixed child doesn't grow up to be like her.

[@BeatzByMK]

Paula Powell I’m biracial and my parents taught me to love both sides of me from a young age, it saddens me to see other biracial kids hating one part of their identity 🙁

[@ananya1405]

Paula Powell omg I hope so too!! Im going to sound so dumb right now but... Raise so she doesn't...? Sorry I can't help myself

[@abbthebear]

Here's a mindfuck: Bergdorf is using blankets statements to describe an entire race/making them seem inferior. Pretty much the exact definition of racism. Yes, history is important but here's the thing: those people died hundred of years ago. We are in a completely different century from then. There are still racist. There will always be racists but we can minimize their numbers. That is not how you do it.

[@alexmiguel351]

The Bergdorf story kinda hit my heart a little. When someone talks about white people I feel included although my physical appearance is Hispanic. I'm half Caucasian and half Mexican. I grew up with a single white mother who didn't have time to fight against racism and try to make up for the mistakes of other people who happen to be white. She was too busy building a business and a career in order to protect and care for me. I can't stand for someone calling out people like her, by generalizing all white people, and saying she isn't doing enough. And there's people who don't have time to fight against racism cause maybe they're too busy fighting for their family and fighting for other social issues, like class status or gender equality. Everyone can't do everything. I just don't agree with her approach and wording if her argument.

[@brandonwilliams3537]

Alex Miguel yes, but change starts with you. Instead of taking the time to bash someone working on change, do your due diligence.

[@Resuron]

Alex Miguel never forget your Hispanic or European background man, god bless your mom and please dont give in to the bs of identity politics. peace

[@coralreefer4602]

Alex Miguel 👌 nicely said bro

[@alexmiguel351]

I'm not here to bash. I'm here to share my thoughts and my view. I live and grew up in an area where white is the minority. I and my mother stand against white racists by not being white racists. We shouldn't have to make our life goal about proving and "combatting" things like racism. My mom did her due diligence by raising a daughter who disagrees with judging people based on skin color on top of so many more values she instilled in me. Also I have experienced more racism within races, like Mexicans against other Mexicans. You cannot call an entire race racists because they aren't on the front lines of the fight against racism.

[@KI-zy2os]

No, you shouldn't have to, because we really should be well past this bs in 2017. But again, you have a choice. Please understand that people who are not white/white-presenting don't have the luxury of deciding to engage with this issue, regardless of what else they are struggling with. You don't need to feel guilty about it but at least be aware of that fact.

[@Gigaheart]

No, racism is not inherited. It is TAUGHT. Just like you are doing right now.

[@atavist6068]

You're teaching racism against white people right now.

[@Jixijenga]

Yes, it is. Sure, it can be taught, but distrust or fear of what's different is a primal thing. So actually racism is quite natural, it's ridiculous to expect that it wouldn't naturally manifest in at least _some_ of the population. We inherit many things, some good, some bad, but we're blessed with the ability to choose who we are and what kind of person we'll be. We are not slaves to primitive urges, we are our own masters. Or at least I know I am.

[@chicopluma]

If you're saying that biologically people is distrustfull of other races, then all races are racist

[@duskdawn1415]

Jixijenga you are completely wrong , just saying

[@TerryProthero]

@chicopluma kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKDZd2SwqKmim68 Yes and no. I saw a video were they sung a song called, we're all a little bit racist. There is truth to what they are saying. Anyone might have some largely unconscious negative feelings towards anyone different from themselves. But then sensible people do their best not to allow that to influence how they treat others. Then you have people who willfully and maliciously do things to harm others. When I say someone is a racist or a bigot, that's who I'm talking about. If I show someone the dictionary definition of the word and they are repeatedly and unapologeticly doing that crap, they are racists. In other cases, it might be a more nuanced issue and kind of a judgement call as to whether they should be doing what they are doing or if someone is justified being offended by it.

[@ADD1CT1ONPRODUCT1ONS]

So I was born here in the US but my best friend was born in Mexico and was brought here when he was a year and a half old. I have known him since preschool and grew up with him, he graduated high school and is working to support his mom and siblings. Once DACA arrived he immediately applied because he wanted to go to college. He got all his documents and began going to college to become a sound engineer. With his graduation around the corner and DACA in this current state has my friend and his family in a state of worry since he is the one who is making the main income.

[@paulaangelina7750]

that's horrible...

[@chayden153]

Jason Trejo that really sucks

[@BECKYREBEKAH]

wishing your best friend, and all in similar positions, luck, success and security. I really hope everything works out for him and his family!

[@TySoVm]

Jason Trejo Your friend seems like a great person and I would love for him to become a citizen. Has he taken any steps to citizenship?

[@ed.4492]

Ty Vm and it's not even about money. There literally is no way to citizenship right now. That's why everyone is so upset about DACA ending. Because although DACA also didn't have a pathway to citizenship, it was at least a stable way for people to pursue their dreams and work hard and feel somewhat accepted for the first time.

[@Khasym]

Phillib DeFranco, I'm sorry, but as a black man, I am INSULTED by what this woman said. I agree with you that in the USA, there is a very serious culture of white-guilters out there, who want to pin everything bad in their lives on white people and the hardships of racism. But, that ignores the very real problem of racism in OTHER countries and ethnicities. It falsely implies that ONLY white people can be racist, and ONLY white people should be working to fix the problem. In standing up and declaring herself tired of the racism of ALL White people and expecting ALL of them to change, she not only demonstrates her own bias, but her own unwillingness to CHANGE ANYTHING. She DID nothing, but called on other people to do the work for her. That isn't just racist, it's LAZY racism at it's finest.

[@dropmelon]

Khasym Completely agree with you. If I may add, people tend to forget that white people can be racist to white people and black people can be racist to black people. Heck, white Americans used to be racist to Irish and Germans immigrants. Currently in the African continent, despite the fact that they're mostly black, they're still people that are being racist to each other because they're from another tribe. Tldr: We humans really hate ourselves.

[@autribasu]

Khasym as an Asian (specifically Indian) I can tell you we are the most racist race in the world. the stuff that happen to white people in India behind their backs is so horrible that youlll wonder why people don’t speak up (gandhi himself thought that black people were inferior and Indians were a superior race)

[@elemeno82002]

I agree with you somewhat but I think you are really generalizing too much from what black people are arguing for. Black people are not saying that all of the burden is on white people to fix racism. Black people are saying that white people need to start playing a bigger role in dismantling racism because they have access to spaces that many black people do not. White people are in the position to have difficult conversations with family members about race that black people can't always have with other white people. Black people are generally just tired of having to remind others that we are not living in a post racial society that can remain oblivious to the ways in which people of color are harmed by systemic racism. Ofc there are plenty of cases where POC are doing better than some white people, but statistically black are doing way worse than they should be in proportion to their numbers in the U.S.

[@mistersinister2043]

Khasym There's no such thing as systematic racism. There is only systematic bias, and you will find that in every culture.

[@elemeno82002]

i don't agree but even if I did, I am talking about POC in this country and what they have to go through. Ofc there are people outside the U.S. who have it worse than POC in the U.S., but that doesn't mean that we should stop trying to improve race relations in our country and have a serious look at our history of divisive racial politics. Everyone is in such a hurry to say that racism isn't a problem in this country but people keep forgetting that for the vast majority of American history POC were either enslaved or subject to jim crow laws. You don't just get over that because everyone wants to.

[@PJsutnop]

What disturbs me about her statement isn't just the all white people part. What disturbs me is the talk about how racism, an evil state of mind, isn't just an opinion, but apparently a part of the white race. That racism is inherited down with our race. That to me sounds a lot like the way nazis and communists would talk about jews during and before WW2. They would talk about jews being this priviliged class whose evil and greedy nature was inherited. To me, her statement is only proof that there's a new branch of anti-racist activism. One which is focused on hate towards white people and black supremacy.

[@jdunnatl]

well said

[@AzerinaM]

PJsutnop I caught that too, and thought along those same lines.. it's very disturbing. .

[@n1sugarbaby69]

What she said was completely racist and I don't agree with it in any way shape or form these people that keep saying stuff like this about every white person in the world is making even minded understanding educated ethnic people look crazy as a whole because they're focusing in on all the crazy ethnic people who want to say all white people are racist and not focusing in on the level headed intelligent ethnic people who are saying that they don't think all white people are racist they're just focusing in on the bullshit and it's making all of us are crazy

[@ktli5648]

Couldn't have put it better myself ;) Nice!

[@rad4life1]

PJsutnop It's happening again and the people are in denial, AGAIN!

[@chercatzizzle]

Doesn't look to me like she's suffering from "white racial oppression"... nice hair, nice clothes, and she's a MODEL... Go figure...

[@salmaabdullahgb]

LOOOL So you can detect oppression now, interesting.

[@gurudeclan]

Salma. Why do you hate all white people?

[@mortarpestle.4267]

+Salma Abdullah You're implying you can.

[@goldengail3418]

Salma Abdullah Why are you so racist?

[@salmaabdullahgb]

Wow I really missed the comment where I said that?

[@ImmigrationAnswerMan]

Philip, thank you for talking about the termination of the DACA program and the affect that it will have on the 800K Dreamer kids and young adults, as well as the affect on their US citizen spouses, children, employees, employers, friends and neighbors. I am an immigration lawyer and I just wanted to point out one additional requirement that I think you left out that Dreamers had to meet in order to receive DACA, they had to have come to the US before their 16th birthday. That is an important fact for your followers to know. Every single one of them was 15 years old or younger when they came to the US. Every single one of them has been living in the US for at least 10 years now, many of them for much longer. Every single one of them has gone through security background checks at least once (some twice or three times). For almost all of them, English is their primary language, with many of them not being able to speak the language of their home country, or not being able to speak it well. These kids grew up saying the Pledge of Allegiance, facing the American flag, in school and singing the Star Spangled Banner at ball games. A few of your readers posted the commonly held myth that Dreamers can just fill out the paperwork, or just get in line, but haven't for some reason or another. That is not true. Many of them are in the "line" through sponsorship by US citizen and green-card-holder spouses, parents, siblings and employers, but our current immigration laws bar most of them from being able to obtain residence, even for those who are in the "line", because they are without immigration status. That is exactly why we need Congress to pass the Dream Act or a similar law that will allow these kids and young adults to continue to be contributing members of the American society, rather than relegating them back into the shadows.

[@IskurBlast]

When Caesar was executed by the Senate, yes it was under Roman law a legal tyrannicide, the Senate didn't know what to do next. They were legally within their right to execute him since he was a tyrant but if they declared him a tyrant all of his edicts would be null and void including a lot of "good stuff". Instead of following the law of tyranicide the Senate simply punted and pretended something akin to Caesar wasn't a tyrant he simply slipped and fell on a knife ... 23 times. Without declaring him a tyrant and his illegal acts null and void Octavian and Mark Anthony were able to hold onto and take even more power. Within a few years the Roman Republic was no more and Octavian now Augustus Caeser had seized power. You can argue that the DACA is 'good stuff' until you are blue in the face. Its still an illegal dictatorial edict with no constitutional authority behind it. "Good Stuff" is not an excuse.

[@jlopez5513]

Matthias Bider dumb and irrelevant

[@TheNightOwl11683]

The fact is that the DACA Act is unconstitutional because the Executive Branch is not allowed to create immigration policies. Only Congress is allowed to create immigration policies. Trump did what was legally right & put it in the hands of Congress to decide whether or not DACA should continue & how. We can go blue in the face talking about compassion for these kids, but it doesn't change the fact that they need to get their immigration status in order. The law is the law, period. I say this as a grandchild of a legal Mexican immigrant.

[@paulaangelina7750]

I'm a dreamer and it's insane how many people get their facts wrong when it comes to DACA.

[@josephphillips7949]

Ari Sauer what you have said may well be true, however DACA as it was implemented (I.E. by executive action) was unconstitutional on it's face. 18 attorneys general where setting up a court challenge that would have ended the program. Trump sending it back to the legislature was the best outcome .so If you believe in DACA lobby your representatives and get a bill passed . These folks have the next 6 months to renew there status for new two years term under DACA. That gives you two and a half years to lite a fire under congress's ass to get this done.

[@addicted2myxbox]

I'm super anti Trump, but I am so pro free speech, so I think this teacher is crazy! Let them wear those shirts.

[@xXCaitlynGXx]

Tyler Valentine I agree that they should've been able to wear the MAGA shirts but I also think it's important to note that you actually don't have freedom of speech or freedom of expression in public and private grade school... hell they can send you home for wearing leggings in most schools nowadays

[@jweezyf0sheezy1]

Two sides to a story. This is probably the kid who wore swimming goggles over his head during hurricane Harvey and a keffiyeh to class every day during the ISIS regime.

[@bin1127]

I feel like the teacher is really torn between her deep resentment of Trump and her own limits of allowing free speech. We can probably identify that MAGA is a trigger for her because an idiot in the white house is a tremendous blight on her identify as a proud american; and then you also have free speech.

[@War450]

+Caitlyn G It's not really about free speech, it's about what the speech itself is. An AMERICAN school teacher punishing AMERICAN students for being proud of AMERICA, yeah, that's never going to fly. And that's precisely what this communist sympathizer did.

[@xXCaitlynGXx]

War450 you're not grasping what I'm saying. Obviously this teacher overstepped, there's no question there. I'm pointing out that as a student in grade school your freedom of expression don't apply so to argue that is really a moot point. You can be sent home or punished for a number of things that would be considered freedom of expression such as using swear words, insulting classmates/teachers, wearing clothing that depicts weapons, illegal substances, gang affiliations, offensive phrases or imagery, and even clothing that the administration deems "inappropriate" such as spaghetti straps or skirts/shorts that are shorter than arms length or leggings in some cases. The point is that political affiliation IS NOT and SHOULD NOT be considered one of these "offensive" things.

[@brendanmurphy4034]

Interesting story: so every American knows there was a time when the Irish were hated, the Irish need not apply and all that. In my AP US history textbook it mentioned in passing that there were real racial tensions between African Americans and the Irish as they were both bottom of the food chain in 1800s America. The textbook quoted that a slave said his master treats him so bad as if he were an Irishman. If there is a group on earth that definitely did not have white privilege it was the Irish.

[@alexanderthered5603]

Brendan Murphy and you know what? They moved on and conquered crap. They're not using it to reside in a permanent victim mentality.

[@STB002]

Brendan Murphy false equivalence

[@danlastovetchi9585]

'sins of their parents' wtf. They came to america to get a BETTER LIFE. And don't tell me that you wouldn't have done the same thing if you were in their situation.

[@ofc_b4nk138]

ScribbleSnake ikr! Many people just don’t understand this or refuse to believe that this was the best choice for many parents.

[@cloudypie9466]

Ohhhhhh I get it. We're supposed to fight racism WITH racism. This is basically what she is saying.

[@KnightOfClouds]

I always get a little angry when people say white and black are races. They are skin colours, and do not determine who you are and what you are like. I may have a pale complexion but that says nothing about me, I could have been born anywhere in the world and follow any set of values. The same applies to anyone else. Racism is disgusting.

[@henryjw15]

Zidanet eh, if you want to get biological were technically subspecies of each other.

[@JacobCMayer]

henryjw15 And even with that, we're still both sentient and sapient so it shouldn't matter outside of as a descriptor.

[@TheArtofThings]

Zidanet I mean in all honesty. Isn't it kind of racist to assume someone's heritage based on their skin color anyway? There are lots of people who are white in color but have rich heritage of Korean, native, Indian etc.

[@t.funkthecoolmunk5472]

The concept of race is confusing and dumb anyway. Like who is technically more Asian, a person who looks like the typical deception of an Asian but was born in the U.S, or a person who is born in India? One looks Asian, while the other was actually born there.

[@ladylynn9972]

While I agree that your race does not directly affect the type of person you'll become, "blacks" and "whites" are races. Races are groups of people that have similar physical characteristics. I do totally agree with you though; someone's race doesn't immediately dictate their values or beliefs, though. There's so much going on in this world, who has the time and energy to hate other people?

[@jespervagberg9132]

The "if you're not fighting racism, you're a racist"-argument can be used for SO many things. For example: if you're not actively fighting climate change, are you really against it? If you're reaping the benefits of capitalism, can you call yourself an anti-capitalist? You see the hypocrisy here?

[@jespervagberg9132]

Morgan Freeman said it the best, if you want to stop racism, then stop talking about it. Stop making everything about race. Start defining yourself as a human being first, rather than what race you are.

[@mariaeleniNikolaidi]

Jesper V yeah i facepalmed hard at this excuse

[@Tyblimp]

You don't have to be like an extreme anti racist but you, knowing the situation and who's in the wrong and STILL abstaining doesn't look well for you. It's like a yes or no question really. Or at least that's the way I take it. Like abstaining from a vote, it's not a "yes I want to vote for (insert person)". So technically speaking, it's a no.

[@person.w9780]

Jesper V Just a very, very flawed argument.

[@jespervagberg9132]

Tim Evans Think you misunderstood my second comment. I didn't mean that we should ignore racism. It exists, and we should DEFINITELY fight against it. What I am saying is that we should strive to define ourselves as human beings first, before we define ourselves through our skin color. That goes for all races. If you expect people to not see or define you by your skin color, why bring it up in the first place? I see stuff like "I'm a black entrepreneur" in Twitter bios all the time. What's the difference between a black entrepreneur and a entrepreneur? Nothing.

[@EXL714]

Racism: treating or judging an individual in a certain way because of their ancestors’ geographic origin.

[@LivLaugh]

Politics have no place in a classroom. There are debate clubs and other such places for those discussions. No matter the party, communists, republicans, democrats, liberals, alt-right. Teachers should not force their political opinions on students, and the same goes for students. Race, political affinity, and religion are private matters and should not distract from the true purpose of school. Nobody cares if you think Trump is the best president ever, just do your homework, attend class respectfully, and be a decent citizen.

[@loopeymire]

I am in the process of becoming a teacher and I have to say that I disagree. Political opinions should not be forced on students but students should be able to discuss and express their own political beliefs. In my own opinion, this teacher missed a great opportunity to do her job and teach the class. If the shirts were a distraction then use that to discuss the student's choices to wear them and ask their classmates what they think about it. A lesson where students had to talk about their own political expression would stick with kids and educate them far better than any lecture would. As a teaching strategy, these sorts of discussions connect students to their teachers and help ensure that students will be more attentive in class for the rest of the year. If the shirts were not causing a distraction then by making them one she just ensured that most of her students will be showing up in political shirts just to challenge her. The teacher under no circumstances should have shared her personal beliefs, but that does not mean she could not host a discussion among her students.

[@LivLaugh]

Rick Harris Of course there should be education concerning politics, and debate clubs do exists for those willing to express their opinions. But not all classes should be such platforms. Most students already struggle with the curriculum, it won't help if people keep interjecting in geography because they dislike Europe although the subject was the layout of the land. Classrooms are not democracies. You have one teacher in charge and multiple students there to learn, the teacher (in theory) has the power. Debate cannot exist in such circumstances, because who is a teacher to tell you how to think? There MUST be platforms for critical thinking and challenging yours and others' views, but a classroom is not that place.

[@ayako510]

Unfortunately for you, in the state of Georgia you must have a half credit of a civics class to graduate. Although I agree that teachers shouldn't force opinions on their students, I also believe it is important for students to understand politics. If you truly want to be a decent US citizen, you have to vote, and know what you're voting for. People should know what's going on in their country's government, and the best way to help is teaching students the structure of government and its laws.

[@LivLaugh]

Ayako It's not unfortunate at all! Civics classes are extremely important, people must be informed, but not all classes should be such platforms. There is a reason classes are segregated by topic. Your chemistry teacher has no place in telling you how to vote, they aren't trained for that. Civics classes should be mandatory, therefore letting all other classes be neutral for everyone and focus on learning the subject at hand.

[@LivLaugh]

Buttered Lumps I am currently in Europe and have been educated here and Nazis and WWII are not glossed over, they are a significant part of the curriculum. Politics are taught and so is debating on such issues . Have you ever been to Europe?

[@LuvuluvuLaChic]

I said it once and I'll say it again, no one is obligated to make your life more comfortable when ppl are just trying to live and survive their lives...Her saying that if white ppl aren't actively fighting racism, you know in between there 9-5, paying their bills and taking care of their kids, etc...is like saying you hate poor children in India, living in the caste system with no way out because your not actively acting fighting for their freedom...If you have an iPhone or any smart phone of any type you are most likely supporting child labour, most ppl benefit from some one elses suffering...most ppl living in a free country have some kind of privilege of some sort...

[@LuvuluvuLaChic]

I am black and there's more ppl like me out there than you may think, actually I would go as far as saying most black ppl is just like everyone else and are just trying to get on with their lives...it's either they're not on social media or they don't speak out because they're afraid of being called a race trader...

[@MrSenset]

Thank you for just being a smart and good person. People are people no mater the skin color.

[@LuvuluvuLaChic]

Um not really sure if ur eccussing me of something, I was simply explaining why some ppl n the black communtiy wound not speak up and I would call that, the fear of being judged by ur peers..

[@piaschmidt7357]

Shes focusing on firstworldproblems. "POC" are so important to her yet she probably doesnt care that her phone was produced with the help of child labour in the congo. She probably doesnt care hat her privilded self is probably supporting a clothing business that manufctures their clothes in countries like india through what? Oh righ modern day slavery and child labour. Shes more privilidged than most of those "POC" she apparently cares about. "all white people are racist" yet it looks like she lived a good life being raised by her white mother...

[@tumado7304]

LiveLoveLifeandTravel absolutely true

[@arnoldreit5831]

The funniest (or even ironic) part of Monroe Bergdorf's post is that she'll never realize she was let go for being a racist, not because of racism against her. And then going to the media and backtracking on her statement is just the cherry on top. Actually, that sounds exactly like the behavior a "white racist" would have if they got caught in a similar situation...

[@slein1055]

Arnold Reit it was because of racism, racism towards White people

[@niconicouana]

Free speech means you can make such claims, but it does not absolve you from the consequences. That's it, in a nutshell.

[@Itstenten8]

It is extremely hard for people to come to this country legally as it is to come illegally. When immigrants try to come legally they have to go through long tedious processing and sometimes face stressful times in dentions. There should be a better and more human process than the one we have in place

[@TerryProthero]

@Zoe Walker We need to make it easy for people to come here legally and next to impossible to come here illegally. We have things ass backwards.

[@ehgyes]

Zoe Walker 25% of people who immigrate yearly go to the Usa. The next closest is Russia with 4%

[@giovizaff]

I'm not American, nor a Trump fan, but as a teacher, you really think the answer to someone having an opposing view to yours is actively preventing them from being educated? Fine, you think that they're racist, wouldn't them sitting through class be better than kicking them out? Ignorance is never something you should encourage, much less as a teacher.

[@nlc43]

Gio Zaffini What white people generally don't understand about people of color educating them about racism is that it costs people of color time and energy. Imagine having PTSD and having to educate others over and over about the exact things that triggered your PTSD while you are being psychologically triggered constantly by society/the conversation and not being compensated for this. There are tons of articles about racism (Everyday Feminism is a great site that has a ton of articles about social issues written by people who live through them/their allies), but if you must consult a person of color for their insight on race/racism, financially compensate them for their emotional labor (Kinfolk Kollective's #MuleNoMoreKollective explains this practice).

[@aeraaureliawashereonce]

Best part about that whole thing: You can very clearly see the American flag on the wall. Rejecting opposing opinions in the Land of the Free. Irony.

[@profshad3429]

Thats what white people thought about integration.

[@charmingdruid9]

Gio Zaffini this is an issue all over the American school system she's just a very vocal example

[@rpgshadowmorn2683]

Not to mention the notion that only white people can be racist is ignorant. I remember my exs parents hated me for my skin color even before meeting me in person and treated her like shit for dating a white guy...

[@amatthew1231]

"Just because you don't like something doesn't make it hate speech" Oh the world we live in.

[@Fish4Man61]

HATE SPEECH! REEE!

[@oscarcardenas6411]

Amatthew123, please, continue, I want to see where you are going with this.

[@bgtv9024]

"Really? That's like saying..."Just because I have a loaded gun pointed at you, doesn't make it dangerous." News Flash: Accidents happen when you choose to be cavalier (def. to show a lack of proper concern) about things you don't know how to control. Any idiot can fly off the mouth and say what they want to say...but just because you can do that doesn't mean you can control the way people react to it. Most of you don't know what the real world even is, that's why you have to generalize and reduce everything to it's lowest form to get things to make sense to you, and when people don't react in the way YOU thought they should, you lose control and get violent and blame everyone for your ineptitude.

[@oscarcardenas6411]

I can't tell if you are agreeing with amatthew123 or not. Then again, I don't even know what point he is trying to make.

[@TerryProthero]

@Amatthew123 No, the fact that it's hate speech makes it hate speech. She said that all white people are racists. That's a racist statement. There is no getting around it. If she said that Star Trek sucks, I might not like that but it wouldn't be hate speech. Because it not a racist statement. See how that works?

[@TheMyRogil]

Guees I'm going to start using L'Oréal products, good on them.

[@cleol4108]

Thankyou Thankyou Phillip for having the courage to call out this lunacy.

[@Thegirlnamedsomthing]

Never thought I would see a black woman defending her racism with ''I have many white allies''.... Very, very similar to the ''I have black friends'' argument.

[@animeisthewayhaha]

Thegirlnamedsomthing in another interview she defended herself by saying "I'm not racist my mother is white" 😂

[@chadmagnus5850]

She doesn't even call them friends, but "allies"...

[@luccisosa6185]

I would like to clear some things up about daca. People who entered this country ILLEGALLY are not even eligible to fill out any document that could aid them to stay. For illegal immigrants their only options to stay here legally is through marriage, or joining the military. The reason Daca has become such a big thing is because that is the first path created aiding those living in the shadows to stay and contribute to society. Anyone brought here before the age of 10 know nothing else but this country. 800,00 daca members, 91% employed and attending school. Must have a clean record. There is no other home to these kids but the united states. Should a child be punished for their parents sins?

[@s2ac]

daca should be removed. it was created through unconstitutional means. it is the job of the congress to make laws not the president

[@cinthe3]

Lucci Sosa yup. Send them back.

[@Thirdandlongpodcast]

Lucci Sosa I don't think that any child that are already in the USA should leave but there still shouldn't be a loop hole around having illegals in here I mean 1 in every 5 child here in America will face hunger. So it's not like we are necessarily a safe haven. We have problems we need to fix here in our country and we can't help anyone until we fix our problems

[@mirakkuma521]

JodyChel Stfu

[@ryanschur8730]

Lucci Sosa I agree. If Republicans want to dissolve the program, fine. But the people who are in it now made a deal with the US government, and that needs to be upheld, for their sake and the sake of our country's integrity.

[@neo77777]

We live in a very strange world. Racist protest racism and fascist protesting fascism. And don't forget those in favor of multiculturalism as long as you don't 'appropriate' someone else's culture. You know, separate but equal. Someone find me the duct tape.

[@JohnB-dr8sk]

It's all understood by reading George Orwell's 1984 book, or by searching for the 1954 BBC film "1984" here on KZbin and watch it.

[@muddytoesgirl]

I think you explored this very well. Thank you.

[@KateBrunotts]

the philly d show is like an adult version of dora except instead of responding in spanish you give your political opinion

[@Jbourbz]

Thats why the comment section is cancer

[@Emily-xr6ny]

The Monroe story pisses me off because she had such a good platform and chance yet she threw it away by making aggressive and blanket statements about ALL white people? L'Oréal is a company, it's not ridiculous for them to not want a spokesperson who alienates a massive demographic or theirs. You can't just make an offensive statement about a massive group of people and not expect consequences when you're a public figure. You may not like it but it's how it is, and if a white person made the same statements they'd be fired too.

[@Ayveh]

As a FULL blooded Latina both of my parents are from Mexico and my dad's family are all full blooded Natives not a single mix with Spaniards. Chichimeca blood to be exact. I am disgusted by her. NOT ALL WHITE PEOPLE are racist!!!!! I have had white people defend me and I have seen white people protest at immigrants rights walks. To accuse EVERY white person as a racist, lucky and rich person is wrong. Yes there are racist white people out there and so are there black, Latino and asian. Yes it is a problem in America and yes most of hollywood is whitewashed HOWEVER we are becoming better and thankfully we do have more Black, Latino and even asian shows. "Jane the virgin" , "Fresh off the boat" "Empire" Yes racism is still a problem however you can't go and call every white person a racist when it's not true.

[@once9050]

Matthias Bider Because latinos are apart of the minority in America, meaning that they should also be "systematically oppressed" by white people.

[@pats6912]

Actually in many schools, they do not allow any political shirts or propaganda.

[@TerryProthero]

@Pat Sands I have no problem with that. But that lady was on drugs or something. She goes from a political shirt to swastikas and Nazis. Seriously? She is a very disturbed individual who probably shouldn't be trusted around children.

[@ShamanSatyr]

She has the freedom to say racist things but has to accept the consequinces of saying those things. People like her are the reason for the rise of the right.

[@Hoodyyy]

William Anderson so true, it's people like this that turned me away from the left

[@savage1267]

William Anderson Yes. She's like a recruiting tool.

[@voronwethefaithful1615]

William Anderson you mean HIM? Not her

[@batron6030]

William Anderson sadly

[@mosleyman3136]

Voronwë The faithful It

[@TheRedhairshanx]

You don't have to be burning cars or throwing trash cans through windows to show that you aren't racist, you show it by simply not being racist. You cant say someone is racist because of their thoughts because you don't actually know what that person is thinking. Policing somebody's thoughts is completely unconstitutional and he deserved to lose his job. He was hired to make their brand more diverse, not for his political views!

[@JacobCMayer]

*She, if Philip is correct.

[@psychoactivesorcerer7285]

Jacob C. Mayer Its an intentional form of disrespect. He is trans

[@TheRedhairshanx]

Jacob C. Mayer He has a pair therefore is a dude

[@psychoactivesorcerer7285]

Jacob C. Mayer sorry, didn't finish my last comment. I was saying that she's male ->female trans. Misgendering her is an inherent form of disrespect if your doing it even knowing that "he" wants to be known as a "she". In other words, he has no respect for her because she is a terrible person in his eyes.

[@TheRedhairshanx]

psychoactive sorcerer no, its not because i think he is awful. Its actually because it probably wont help his mental disorder to play pretend that he is something that he anatomically isn't.

[@Dane42o]

When is the last time she did anything to help fight cancer? She must be pro cancer then. What about AIDS? I suppose we better have a timeline to, let's say 1 year. If she has done nothing to help fight AIDS in the past year she's clearly pro AIDS. I'm guessing she's also pro-diabetes and pro-heart attacks. Pro-smoking, pro-drugs, you name it! She's guilty (according to her logic)!

[@FallofftheMap]

Best coverage I've seen yet on Burma/Myanmar. My brother has been living in Rangoon for a couple years and just left due to the political crisis devolving into genocide. Good job.

[@lara7476]

Smart move fighting racism with racism *rolling eyes*

[@jaska4724]

lara oh but person of color can't be racist! *sarcasm*

[@Foxintox]

I really hate the people who pretend to be "fighting against racism" and yet perpetrate racist ideas . First of all , the way it's being reported . Look at how much emphasis is put on the fact that she's a black transgender . What does her "gender identity" have to do with this issue ? I mean if you're going this far , might as well say "black transgender woman with brown eyes who puts milk before her cereals , puts ketchup in her pasta , watches game of thrones , measures 1 meter 75 , likes her pop tarts cold etc." since we're stacking unrelated characteristics . Or maybe it's because they think that somehow , being transgender and black makes what she says more valuable ? Lack you get more credibility/sympathy depending on your oppress-score ? Please . When judging a person's arguments , it should be REGARDLESS of their sex or ethnicity or religion or sexuality etc. Because that's what discrimination means , and that's EXACTLY what those people ought to be fighting against , yet they're the ones perpetrating that behavior . And then if I had a company and if any of my employees which is supposed to represent the brand said some shit along the lines of "All (insert ethnicity/group) are racist/violent/whatnot" , I'd fire him/her faster than Elon Musk's Hyperloop . I'm pretty sure that if a white person had said "all black people are violent" , people would have RIOTTED for this person to be fired (and rightfully so) , yet when a black person says "ALL white people are racist" and gets fired other it , that's unfair ? SHe did nothing wrong ? Bitch please . So according to her , the white people in Japan , they just HAVE to be violently racist (in her own words) . The white people who live in Guadeloupe (in the carribeans) ? nope , clearly racist . White people living in Afghanistan ? Obviously they benefit from their white privilege by being violent against black people . Smh . Gotta love how she backtracks too "you know when I repeated "all white people are racist , yes ALL white people are racist" well , obviously I didn't mean all white people are racist" . I hate those people who are trying to pit us against each other based on stupid characteristics like that . But she was right about one thing , when she said that we should be fighting against racism , which is why I applaud L'Oréal for immediately separating themselves from such a racist person . So listen up people : don't let anyone tell you that your skin or sexuality or ethnicity defines you . You're not responsible for the actions of other people just based on the fact that you share ONE physical trait . If a black person does something horrible , he/she bares the responsibility ALONE and not all black people across the world . If a white person does something horrible , that's on him/her , not on al white people . If a green-eyed person does something bad , well you get the idea . Blame doesn't spread through race and definitely not through time . To pretend that a black or white person is to blame for the actions of UNRELATED people from CENTURIES ago is utterly retarded , and by pretending that you can somehow group up people in little boxes based on simple characteristics like skin , hair color or sexuality is the kind of thinking that leads to racism . Does the racism which was institutional in the United States for centuries still have noticeable consequences ? Yes , of course . You just have to look at the way the population is spread in America to notice it . But just because you live in a world which has gone through a period of discrimination does NOT mean that you are responsible for it , nor that you are guilty of any wrongdoing/wrongthinking because you exist in that same world .

[@somepeoplearesooostupid.4933]

Foxintoxx Bravo,wish I could use gifs on here,lol

[@Foxintox]

#introvertlivesmatter solemesmash cheers

[@literaltrash3831]

Foxintoxx honestly. I pretty much agree

[@anevilrotisserie9136]

Foxintoxx Good point but *TL;DR*

[@Foxintox]

kyle miller tl;dr don't be racist .

[@davenunez852]

Hey Phil, I have to say in the many years that I have been enjoying your content. So much so, that I am contributing to Defranco Elite. I'm one of the 800,000 people that are affected by the DACA shutdown. I've lived my whole life here. THIS IS HOME. now Home and people in it don't want me here. All I'm guilty of is having a mother that decided to run away from an abusive husband and increasingly dangerous town in Mexico. If you were in the same shoes with your kids. Wouldn't you do anything to make sure you keep them safe? This is what my mother did. Not once did we ever ask for Government assistance. Not once have I ever gotten in trouble with the law. Now I stand to lose what I've worked for all my life and be thrown out like garbage to place that I do not know not to mention, it's dangerous. I'm seriously scared.

[@kioki100]

I can only imagine how many special committees will be created.

[@Jonnyvonwallstrom]

To Munroe Bergdorf, with all due respect, you must have forgotten that SWEEPING GENERALIZATION is one significant ingredient for RACISM, and usually you will end up unwittingly committing DOUBLE-STANDARDS.

[@ranchoddaschanchad6230]

Creative North I absolutely agree with you.

[@zaldssans7412]

Creative North What's happening right now is that when one feels that he/she is being discriminated, the automatic reaction or retaliation is counter-attack racism, that's why it always end up in double-standards.

[@cat_jk00]

Creative North Preach! Putting this on a pedestal and calling it "not" racism is a joke

[@sanchomcadams2060]

Creative North Very well said. Zalds Sans you have a point there.

[@josephmarsh5031]

Right?! Also with that interview clip I just kept thinking "back peddle! Back peddle!"

[@linds7039]

Philip, can you talk about the wildfires up in the Northwest? It's possibly the worst disaster Montana has ever had and I can personally attest to the fact that states directly west of MT are being heavily affected by dangerous levels of smoke. I can't see two blocks down my street because of it. It's very scary. I'm surprised the media is hardly covering it.

[@dvlsnvrcry432]

Phil, your example of an immigrant growing up in the States is literally my life's story. You hit the nail on the head by saying that we are just people who for all intents and purpose are American as they come yet we are constantly told we're not because of where we were born. As a senior in high school, I fell into a depression knowing that I couldn't go to college because of my illegal status. I couldn't even get a job to fall back on. Then months later, I was receiving employment authorization and for once I didn't have that cloud over my head of constantly being afraid of what my future would be. Without DACA, that cloud is back, that sense of security is gone. My future is once again grim and I am terrified of what's going to happen to me. America is my home, not Mexico. I'm proud to be Mexican but going back would mean having to start over from scratch.

[@CovertAgent7]

The trans person doesn't really make sense at all. Her reasoning doesn't even match up with what she originally said. Crazy how she tries calling out racism by being a freaking racist.

[@AzerinaM]

CovertAgent7 he.

[@ktli5648]

Azerina M. Exactly lol

[@deidrewilson4871]

Wow. What a totally nuanced and not regurgitated criticism. Anything else to add? Or are you content with saying the same fcking thing everyone else is? One day, maybe after you turn 12, you should try expanding your political-racial understanding of the world

[@11epicguy22]

Loreal made a good choice That teacher needs fired

[@Hoodyyy]

Abe Pika nice and simple this needs to be top comment

[@fundragon298]

Phil you are amazing. Thank you so much for this show and for your thoughts and comments following each story. Keep up the great work

[@goswami]

I'm sorry I got distracted by the name, superintendent Hightower! Ahhh the Police academy memories are flooding in!

[@spartancy4604]

The first story: I am glad that she got fired, such words do nothing but create more hate. The fact that I cannot spend my weekend going to rallies shouldn't make me the enemy, a racist.

[@Conceptcreator]

So saying all white are the same is fine? But when people react the same way to another skin color it's racism? The rest fully agree what you said here about it...

[@communityEsc]

This woman, or... Man? Is a fool.

[@romannoodles5856]

Regardless, people should not be attacked for speaking out about what they believe in. This is an attack on freedom of speech.

[@Rack93City]

Concept Creator oh please 🙄 yes she was wrong but white people always bash groups because of some idiots. Aaaaalwaaaays! just like the man the us voted for president . He didn't lose his job when he said Mexican are rapists etc.

[@Tearios]

Freedom of speech doesn't protect you from consequences of what you said. It just gives you the right to say it. If you spew self-righteous racist bullshit that's your choice but you get to deal with the fallout.

[@Jounar]

No one stopped or tried to stop her speaking about her beliefs, the company that just hired her, just didn't wan't to be associated with them as it alienated a huge proportion of their customer base.

[@luiscq1660]

‘You Were Never Really Here’ trailer, I thought Phil said the trailer "You will never really hear" lol

[@V__Vahaa]

"just because you dont like something doesnt make it hate speech"- this is so incredibly important right now.

[@SayisSaying]

I'm honestly glad she's fired. I'm a woman of color (although I dislike labels) making a generalization about a race is racist. Plain and simple. You can be racist against white people and people of color can be racist, and on top of that, not everyone has to care about your problems. Like Phil said, plenty of people are more worried about surviving and having food to eat etc. there's no room to care for something that doesn't effect them. If I'm truly powerful, I don't need people to advocate for me, I can do it myself

[@tubertz]

the fact you even have to explain that racism goes both ways is kinda sad

[@SayisSaying]

KZbinrtz thank you because Jesus Christ this is ridiculous

[@matthewmorrin1974]

In a later interview she said that racism isn't just saying racist stuff but thinking that you're superior to another race. How are we supposed to know what people are thinking? And how can we stop this? I think it's ridiculous to say that someone who isn't actively stopping racism is part of the problem.

[@matthewmorrin1974]

Also, how can a mixed race trans gender woman complain about systematic racism when she is probably wealthier than 40% of white people in America?

[@matthewmorrin1974]

Surely this system would see her and instantly say no lol

[@Sway679]

Matthew Morrin He*

[@roo9812]

yg.meech679 She*

[@matthewmorrin1974]

yg.meech679 he/she is prettier than your mum so yeah.

[@briannalee1998]

That model was definitely trying to deflect she literally lied about her actual quote and what she said. I'm not a Trump fan, but kicking students out for wearing a shirt of his is ridiculous. I hope she gets fired. Completely agree with what John McCain said about the DACA thing because it's not their fault that they were illegally bought into the country, they shouldn't be punished for what their parents did.

[@salens]

Good job L'Oréal! That's a company that stands up against racism and bigotry!

[@FBIsecurityVAN]

I combat racism by not being a god damn racist. That's it. Now i'm a racist for not being a racist? God damn what will someone tell me I am next!

[@ramsessandoval4904]

Sphincter911 it's 2017 bro anything is offensive now a days

[@ojsimpson737]

Sphincter911 Dude, quit being a bigot.

[@randomstuff7962]

Sphincter911 its the current year ...

[@victorcates9330]

phil's use to the term "ally" peeves me. It kinda puts a burden on people to have something to prove. You can't just be not a racist as a matter of principle, you have to be a subservient pet and be smiled upon. It's considered aggressive for a white person (or in a different discussion, a man) to have anything to say that might inform the conversation. And if you thought you were just a human being and thus equal, it's privilege speaking.

[@wickersticks]

Being a liberal and a stanch supporter of civil rights, that woman is clearly racist. It is a two way street, which for whatever reason people forget. My father being member of the military has made it necessary for my family to move to more remote locations and once even I lived in location where white people are actually a minority themselves, and experiencened racism first hand. Racism isn't exclusive to Caucasians, rather it is a thing which all humans are susceptible to. But hardly all people, not everyone, there isn't a race alive that is composed exclusively of racists. To say everyone who is white is racist is the sort of sterotipical bigotry that only racists themselves would say. Only racists generalize a entire group of people because of the color of their skin. That woman is clearly a racist.

[@polygoncartoons1599]

5:03 Your hope was shattered by Netflix, Phil.

[@moyokean]

This country makes me not want to go outside anymore.

[@8BitShadow]

"yes, ALL white people" - confirms she is talking about *EVERY* white person. "Once white people begin to admit that their race is the most violent and oppressive force of nature on Earth.. then we can talk." - again confirms she is talking about *EVERY* white person through making yet another broad reference to white people. "What? i wasn't being racist!" - back peddling/damage control/desperate sympathy point grabbing, one of the three. This has been said time and time again, but these people continue to be ignorant of this fact time and time again. But let's give her the benefit of the doubt and suggest she hasn't heard this before. What happened in the past has already been atoned for through the affected generation and *can not be atoned for any further* as such affects have been - albeit almost - utterly removed from generations after the aforementioned affected generation, we can not change what happened in the past and *we are not responsible for what happened in the past because it was out of our control* but by no means should we forget what happened. Statues and the such that still stand - be in public or a museum - that used to idolise slavery and the such only stand now as a testament as to how we *have moved on from such acts - but more importantly will remember what was done so that it will not be done again*. Through trying to make out there is racism, sexism and the like where there is not, actual racism and the like are now being mostly if not utterly ignored - through these actions racism and the like are only getting worse by people claiming that they are outright stopping the said things, as these said people are doing *literally the opposite* and only causing more of a division. You (monro) are not helping as you are apart of these people, you are pushing the narrative of privilege and the such - things which do not exist - and causing focus to move from *real* racism and the such to the made up shit.

[@greenspark101]

2:13 If what you mean by "all white people" was actually "systemic white racism" the just say THAT. Stop with the bait and switch, and the taken out of context thing. If you've got something to say that means something to you, then say it and stand by it.

[@gordonway1776]

Bait and switch like he was some sort of Trap or something....

[@iAmTheSquidThing]

She also said that by "violence" she meant "microaggressions, like moving away from someone on a bus." I can't stand this constant attempt at redefining the meanings of words to make debate impossible.

[@TheArnoldification]

I think it's telling that these kinds of public opinions only appeal to emotion rather than logic. They're very psychologically manipulative because they focus on why the other side is wrong opposed to why they're right. They can point fingers and even at times act out violently but backpeddle and deflect whever they deservedly come under fire. Granted I'm sort of doing the same thing here but this genuinely frustrates me if nothing else than the fact they don't even have to remotely accurately reflect the state of society to garner lots of support, because it's easy good feels to be a victim.

[@snake_pot]

If that teacher is anything other than relieved of her authority then justice was not properly served.

[@DragonS14y3r]

What really pisses me off about Congress is their tendency to just up and get rid of things without having a replacement or explanation in place.

[@TheWalkingBread]

Regarding the Munroe Story, I feel like this is a case of someone felt empowered because everyone within her circle agreed with her, Maybe they agreed with her because if you don't you are attacking her identity or maybe they wholeheartedly believe this. Regardless , L'Oreal had to make a choice when it came to those inflammatory comments and pulled the plug. The scary thing is that blanket statements (over something people have no control of) such as these are cause more harm than "good". It reminds me of how Hitler used to paint Jews and Gypsies when it came Germany problems and economic failure prior to World War II. Maybe a bit of a stretch but closer to reality than I'd like.

[@kenobadogomba376]

I thought that it was going to be another story about Beyonce's wax figure from the thumbnail.

[@hhiippiittyy]

Keno Badogomba TY, I was wondering why that face looked so familiar.

[@kasraofnxtlvlshtfwthesound3229]

Keno Badogomba lol

[@borpie]

Keno Badogomba haha best comment

[@bizarreworld2510]

Keno Badogomba lol same here

[@hubbahubbawow]

RIP

[@MsDannyNicole]

See, I'm not a huge Trump fan, I'm not at all...however the legal precedent of Tinker v Des Moines protects those students and their right to wear that shirt (using the court case loosely here). So long as it's within dress code (which, going by my local High School's rules, it is) they should not have been kicked out of class.

[@chandlerfurr9220]

lmao thats my precalc teacher, she forgets she's doing things while she's doing them all the time

[@kkay3977]

I don't think racism is inherited

[@gabrielle.s1896]

Yep, she's racist. Period. Also, i love l'Oreal and their values fit with mine, so no. Also, wow, stopping a dude from getting his education because he has different opinion?? Also also, i do believe that if you decide to move countries, please do it legally. But the kids shouldnt take the heat for something their parents did.

[@kingsleygod3862]

inglourious basterds YES YOU HAVE A BRAIN I LOVE YOU

[@Jx-kj9fs]

inglourious basterds ur a beautiful human being

[@gabrielle.s1896]

Kingsley God thanks! it is rare these days.

[@gabrielle.s1896]

Jx8774 well thank you! so are you.

[@sirnird9982]

Munroe was back pedaling when she was interviewed. She claimed people aren't born racist in the interview but in her quote she said it's inherited. There's no question, she wrote something she realized was wrong as she worded it. Then in a move to keep her career from falling apart she tried to reword her statement instead of apologizing for how she worded it.

[@mediocremusiccovers]

Gentle reminder: Even the best/most moral argument will be met with resistance if it is presented in a spiteful and immature way.