The Insane Truth About Nurse Alex Wubbels' Arrest and Why YouTubers Are Crashing Cars For Charity...

[@PhilipDeFranco]

Lets enjoy this week together, Nation. I may not be here next week. I'll be taking a week off after the new baby is born and that could be any day now. So excited and nervous!

[@averyjerome3000]

Daddy

[@onizaroyeen9703]

Philip DeFranco BABY

[@averyjerome3000]

Papa Franco

[@DangerousDefunkify]

Philip DeFranco Wishing you all the luck and best experiences with the new addition. Love you guys.

[@Pincalo]

Philip DeFranco great to hear Phil. Hope the kid comes out happy and healthy!

[@ragnarbolgen3163]

To any nurses reading the comment section; Thank you for all the hard work that you do. Thank you for upholding your policies and vows as a medical worker. I believe i saw another comment that i will quote; "Nurses are the best! They will put everything on the line for their patients. Thank you nurses!"

[@artawesome30]

Not all nurses, some nurses I've met have been atrocious, in hospitality and morality. Good to give credit, but only where it's due

[@eadlynjune]

Ragnar Bolgen I remember my mom jumped in front of a fork an old lady was wielding and her coworker got hit in the head with a shoe by the same person. Luckily both of them are fine but my mom still says, despite her age, it was somewhat scary. The woman died a day later and my mother even felt bad for her. As did I but I wasn't the one nearly stabbed by a fork. She's truly an amazing person.

[@kellygriffin8232]

Ragnar Bolgen you're welcome!!

[@peachesandcream.2612]

Ragnar Bolgen - You have obviously not encountered many nurses!!! They are some of the worst bitches and most horrible bullies on the planet! They also lie like the devil!

[@peachesandcream.2612]

The Video Garden - It's the nursing assistants who do all the real work! The nurses just swan around playing doctor!

[@BravoBlanc]

You know the worst part about the nurse story that seemingly EVERYONE forgets? Wubbles was just doing her job, but her SUPERVISOR on the phone was the one telling the officer it wasn't allowed. "You're making a mistake threatening a nurse." Payne attacked the messenger.

[@gigi77d60]

I didn’t think of that. The MAN, on the phone. He’s a scumbagX something. Hopefully he’s a good husband and father.

[@globalresearch4180]

That phrase "you are making a mistake" really triggered the unhinged Jeff Payne and he lashed out at Alex Wubbels.

[@k3vinyAng]

They dont realize that Hospitals has some of the best lawyers lol.

[@mrkremko1]

I wish the supervisor could’ve gotten down there and helped her. Surely, somebody else in top of the management hierarchy could’ve gone down to the ER and assumed the situation for her.

[@Mechadroid209]

What's worse the Lt ignored the people making the policy and instructing wubbles but he doesn't want to talk to them cause he knows what they gonna say

[@vettech_]

my issue w the nurse story is that she isn't just following policy....SHE was the one upholding the law and patient's constitutional rights. the officer was behaving illegally. minimizing it to a "policy" issue is disingenuous.

[@bethw6027]

gogogadget 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Exactly!! If she would have broken the HIPAA law then she most likely could have gotten fired and the hospital could face possible lawsuits. Especially with the victim being an officer, his representatives would most likely know about HIPAA and they would report it.

[@THISWEEKINHUMANdotcom]

No excuse, this cop needs to be fired and the other officers involved. All civil servants take a oath of office and these cops openly admit their willingness to violate our individual rights. NO EXCUSES.

[@mikeveis2395]

They're not cops, they're SS soldiers of the American Gestapo

[@emilycarter2492]

Wrong. Firing the officers is a knee jerk response that does NOTHING to stop this from happening again. The officers need to be reprimanded & the person who gave the order needs to be fired. Ultimately, the decision to get that illegal blood sample was made by someone in power (chief of police) who did so at the directive of the MAYOR and City Representatives. They are the ones who want to protect their cushy paychecks and bonuses, which would be adversely affected by a lawsuit from the trucker. The political representatives that were put in positions of authority cared about their own interests and prioritized those over citizens rights. Blaming the whole situation on the officers involved is exactly what the higher ups that made the order want. They will throw them under the bus and protect themselves, then they will make the exact same order the next time.

[@55Quirll]

He was fired and the Lt was demoted to patrolman if I recall, still, he should have been fired too and both should be in jail now

[@PaulMcCaffreyfmac]

Any police officer that refers to it as "my law" should automatically be debarred from doing the job

[@v3ck1n]

Paul McCaffrey That's exactly what I thought

[@supermax8289]

Paul McCaffrey whole department should... if one acts like that with 6 others watching what does it say about the whole department

[@shadfurman]

Paul McCaffrey yeah. I caught that Freudian slip with like a neon mushroom cloud. This is NOT a one off rouge officer, this assumption of authority is pretty standard nation wide by the entire judicial system. They're usually just a little more tactful about staying out of the press.

[@KimmyQueen]

Agreed That triggered the freak out of me

[@maargenbx1454]

Of course it's not one rogue officer...look at the officers standing around during the scene. Not one of them lifted a finger to enforce the law. I hope they're ALL under review.

[@Randyhoar]

I'm confused. Aren't police officers meant to be versed in the law, not make it up on the spot on how they feel?

[@skepticmoderate5790]

Police training is definitely not enough. It doesn't take very much to become a cop in America.

[@CuleChick11]

That's how it SHOULD be. But in many cases police aren't really trained properly, so they may not be sure of the letter of the law and at the end of the day, when they are tired and frustrated, they just... act. Yes, there are bad cops in the system, but there is also a BAD SYSTEM that undervalues law enforcement officers, not giving them the training or mental health techniques they deserve.

[@Nimbus3690]

Probably a bad cop

[@Redjoker96]

Police departments intentionally hire the most uneducated failures at life they can find. Fun fact having a college diploma actually puts you at a DISADVANTAGE for getting hired onto the police force. In fact they used to just turn you away if you were college educated. Its far easier controlling a bunch of buffoons than actual educated individuals Some of my family members are officers and they way they tell the average beat cop knows just a few pages more than the average citizen about the law. Officers are in no way some sort of special class they're just average people given a gun and a badge and minimal training in many cases.

[@jfbeam]

+Redjoker96 To be fair, they hire the people who apply. Sadly, yes, the job does appeal to the power hungry and people with an axe to grind. I have friends who are in law enforcement. They all have a diploma and college degree. And yes, they fall into those two categories, however they aren't assholes who simply make up the rules as they go along.

[@Jonnyvonwallstrom]

Beware residents of Utah, Detective Jeff Payne has his own laws. That's what he said. This officer should go back to police academy.

[@ranchoddaschanchad6230]

Creative North and he should also revisit their penal code

[@sanchomcadams2060]

Creative North His motive and immediate decision to arrest the head nurse was really very disturbing. It's like there's a martial law going on.

[@sdfszcrew6833]

Creative North Wrong suggestion. He should retire.

[@pajarolibre3023]

He must be suspended

[@wldct69]

Mad Eyes maybe fired? I hate that the citizens will pay him any pension.

[@louannadavis9434]

This Nurse needs a really BIG paycheck.

[@DIYDaveT]

louanna, she got $500k but I wonder if she will have ptsd for the rest of her life. And how many others got the same treatment as her without the body cameras and youtube keeping it real? This is not about getting paid. Its about making America safe from rogue cops again.

[@submetropolis]

that paycheck should have been taken from that police departments budget.

[@timcalhoon7469]

That paycheck was used for education!

[@timarnold6473]

I definitely agree with you louanna

[@sboyle7884]

​. And having integrity, doing what's RIGHT.

[@BFedie518]

And that's why my high school physics teacher always said that nurses are the absolute best. They'll put everything on the line for their patients. Thank you nurses!

[@kriegsmarinekonigstiger4038]

Not all of them

[@jblue1622]

Kriegsmarine Königstiger I've known plenty who prove you to be more right than the OP, with any place of work always some workers are good at their job never all are good or bad or whatever, if all workers were ever good we would never have any problems in the workplace

[@dylanbrewer4845]

Nursing is a great profession. Which is why I chose to be one.

[@Ninja563]

Dylan Brewer good luck, it takes A LOT of patience

[@Quickblood1]

Body cams are so awesome especially when people forget that they are wearing them.

[@stass2933]

Quickblood1 not really, it's always the supervisors whispering in the cops ears what to do, and whats been said rarely becomes a public record, and even if the cop/s that has made the unlawful arrest lose their job the supervispr rarely does, same applies to the army, and politics, the corruption starts from the very top

[@silenthague8541]

they get flustered when people question them about the law as cops aren't taught law they are only taught how to give tickets and to enforce officer directions they are the same every where

[@DjJooze]

Pure ignorance and authority deep up their ass

[@Elldallan]

@Silent Hague Not everywhere. Over here(Europe) police training is a 3 year college degree.

[@Ayveh]

Yup!

[@JDlovescats979]

Anyone who thinks that the nurse/hospital were in the wrong have clearly never worked even an hour of their life in a hospital. The laws surrounding patient information are so strict that two doctors could be thrown in jail if they are caught discussing the health of a patient in a hallway while on their way to see said patient.

[@ivoxvxi7482]

Jennifer Dally well most people don't work in a hospital so duh? Doesn't mean they can't express their opinion. Hate when people do shite like that, oh you don't know anything on this topic because you weren't there or you're not that. I've never worked in a hospital and I think the nurse is in the right, so what? Am I wrong?

[@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer]

It's crazy to think that in our system, nurses, who help save lives have more strict rules and laws on them, than the ones with guns who easily take lives.

[@RisenOswald]

Why would they want the blood in the first place? Theres no reason for it.

[@JDlovescats979]

Navi22 you clearly misread my post. I said that people who disagree with what the nurse did have never worked in a hospital, not that if you haven't worked in a hospital you're not allowed to have an opinion.

[@adeutube1]

Wraxas they try to protect himself from the liability cause the injury of other during the police chased. They did not know that the truck driver or the victims is a police officer as well. Now let the circus begin

[@nosuchthing8]

That Nurse is much braver than the average police officer

[@dalewalker4614]

And much more intelligent as well. Oh, and she also has possession of tons of INTEGRITY, which the police are absolutely devoid of!

[@timarnold6473]

That is so true

[@frobber150]

Alex Wubbels was the National Champion in Slalom and in Giant Slalom in 1999. She had a child in 2014. Tougher stuff there isn't any.

[@globalresearch4180]

Gotta add to the great comments here. We need protectors, not low IQ psychopaths with badges and guns.

[@mikeveis2395]

They're not police officers, they're SS soldiers of the American Gestapo

[@darkdudironaji]

These cops need to stop acting like they know the law. They never do. Because they're not lawyers. If you inform them that they're wrong, they get angry and arrest you, and get no more than a slap on the wrist for something they should be fired for. Police need to be held accountable for their actions, or this shit is going to keep happening.

[@i_notold8500]

I would think after years and years on the job they would learn some about law but it appears they don't.

[@chrisridge5504]

darkdudironaji Actually most do.In fact you're clumping together "lawyer" as someone who knows the law but that's not how it works.Im in a job training program offered by my highschool and my instructor knows what he is enforcing.A lemon lawyer isn't generally going to know that much about search and seizure.The term "lawyer" isn't an all encompassing term in the real world.Its often specialized in an area.The police know the laws they enforce.This is evidently a case of a cop losing his cool after so long of trying to just get his job done(the more complete videos show the 30min+ of them explaining that she is obstructing an investigation).This is the sort of thing we are currently going over in ethics.Clearly an escalation of force though.

[@siegwardinspirit]

They do know the law. But for whatever stupid reason, they just made trouble for nothing.

[@darkdudironaji]

ChrisRidge You're right, I wasn't being specific. But, my point still stands. Cops know what the law in regards to what they do all the time. They overreach all the time when in an unfamiliar situation.

[@Holylinkx]

I don't know about fired, because some situations can be grey, in this case the police overstepped and should payout money for this, and be forced into mandatory training regarding this to prevent such events from happening again. They are just trying to do their job, a job where the right choice isn't always clear. Sometimes they overreach because they are trying to do what needs to be done. i can't imagine why they needed it in this case and was more than likely unnecessary and should be punished, but i don't think they should lose their job over it in this case, no one was hurt, and she might have had some mental stress for a bit but she'll be ok, she should however definitely receive some sort of monetary recompense for her mental anguish.

[@ericaclements8015]

As a nursing student, this kind of thing terrifies me. We have a legal and moral obligation to protect our patients. Good job to the nurse and her supervisors for standing behind what is right.

[@peaceinhersheyyy]

Erica Clements I agree. This is very eye opening for me as a nursing student. The nursing school always drills us with ethics and it is important to protect our patient. I was really proud for that nurse and her supervisors.

[@chaosXP3RT]

Erica Clements I wouldn't be terrified. This isn't the norm. This was 1 case were this happened. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it happening to you.

[@liamooney342]

Taking her out of the hospital put patients lives in danger. It's awful they took up her time, spoke horribly to her and were aggressive. Nurses deserve respect.

[@BT5PavedTheWay]

Lia Norman this! Nurses are already understaffed and overworked! They don't deserve this kind of treatment.

[@EyeAmBatman]

Im a poleeb man, i want blood, you gimmie, or else... >:-/

[@darcybhaiwala7057]

I'm a nursing student and they drill us hard when it comes to ethics. It is so easy to sue a hospital so EVERYTHING has to be charted and nothing can be left to chance. Medical professionals shouldn't have to live in fear especially if it impedes patient-centred care On another note hope for a safe delivery with baby Carter!

[@angedejeudi]

Darcy Bhaiwala I think that applies to almost anyone in healthcare, especially since it's such an emotionally charged environment where many are trigger happy with lawsuits. And among them, patient confidentiality is one of the first things we're taught not to violate.

[@nothanks9944]

angedejeudi It applies to anyone working in a covered entity. Including janitors, volunteers, and students. Just to name a few.

[@darcybhaiwala7057]

Damn that sucks. I'm in Canada so the closest problem we would get with wait times is caused by triage, not insurance

[@wldct69]

Exactly and the cops don't care because they don't get held responsible the same way. Also, they get paid time off during investigations.

[@marier1542]

Is it just me, or do US cops seems a bit insane

[@alexheschong2717]

marie R some of them are. Most of them are cool.

[@msgirly6827]

marie R for real right. With all these stories going on you would think that all they are trying to do harm people.

[@blizzyyt2281]

T REX that doesn’t make sense who is supposed to stop the guy who’s ripping peoples throat out??? Civilians

[@a.t6066]

@T REX all officers are not bad. There are some good and some bad. That is with any job and with any population of people. There is never all good and there is never all bad.

[@a.t6066]

@T REX people need to understand how big the US is

[@Gimilli]

7:22 "Your policy interfering with MY law" uhh, they're not just laws for you my friend.... they are OUR laws. any officer with the mindset that they create the law should be fired

[@briansinger5258]

Gimli *shot into space to appease the gods.

[@davidvillarrius6313]

Gimli Here here! They place themselves as if they're Judge Dredd. "I AM THE LAW!"

[@gemoguy5850]

David Villarrius best comment goes to

[@nathanng2629]

Gimli MATTER OF LAW.

[@bokc]

Kuddos to the nurse for standing her ground and protecting the rights of the patient. We depend on healthcare professionals to protect us when we are at our worst. Their is no such thing as "my law", we are all accountable to the same laws which should be enacted fairly and justly.

[@lyricbot8513]

xoVenus365 truth!

[@gtanner997]

xoVenus365 Jeff Pain (misspelling not an accident) shouldn't be in any position of authority. When you knowingly lie about the law in an attempt to get your own way, you shouldn't be in LAW ENFORCEMENT. I mean, the name says it all. They aren't called "law manipulation officers".

[@MikeyGaming]

This is why "Have you ever been bullied?" Should be question number 1 before you go into law enforcement.

[@MsKassandraKotaku]

Number 2: Have you ever been a bully? Number 3: What do you think is your main duty as a police officer? If the answer isn't protect and serve they should immediately have their application thrown away.

[@tomjohnson1110]

Kimberly: After they reply " Protect and serve " ask them " who do you protect and serve " and if they say " other police officers " then throw their application away.

[@samw3891]

Kimberly no1 yes no2 no no3 'the answer you put'

[@bwilhelm4214]

The answer is that everyone has been bullied. Everyone. If you haven't been then you live a wierd safe space that has not prepared you for real life.

[@LagunaX1]

I also believe everyone has been a bully at some point in their life, even if unintentional.

[@TheNakeeky]

Great. Hired to enforce the law but doesn't know what it is, nor does he care. You know, in other jobs you'd be fired for not following company policy. But here where the enforcement of the law and people's lives are in danger the police's response seems to constantly be "meh, I'll check on it later". If someone screws up a takeaway order they're held more accountable than this.

[@thatcattycat]

Nakeeky right !

[@mikeveis2395]

That's not law enforcement, that's terrorism

[@RySin89]

Fire that officer immediately, This is bullshit. I'm usually on the side of the police, its a tough thankless job, but this is crap. and this other officer being "above" the law is complete bs. I joke about triggered but I'm triggered!

[@lootimusmaximus6786]

RySing89 don't worry he'll get time off payed, and a desk job.

[@kumiq17]

RySing89 Officers have to much power if a officer is breaking the law and harassing, assaulting, and on the verge of kidnapping a women who is standing up for common rights and the law, I should be able to knock his teeth out and put him in his own cuffs, like I would any other law breaking asshole. The fact that their was a suggestion to make actions against officers be considered a hate crime only makes me call BS on this more.

[@jaqenhghar3676]

Weren't you for blue lives matter when the police killed Philando Castille, but not this situation I wonder why? 🤔

[@galacticwarlock2271]

Bert Dishman they are above the law this is false imprisonment, assault and battery. But he is still working with a slap on the wrist.

[@adamostaceyb.-fam5323]

RySing89 unfortunately he is on paid leave! He gets paid vacation for acting like a bully! No wonder they pull this without worrying. We as citizens need to scale back on the rights they have over us and our safety.

[@GabrielToribioMonsta]

Officers with this type of attitude need to be purged from the justice system.

[@mikeveis2395]

They're not police officers, they're SS soldiers of the American Gestapo

[@yourlifeisagreatstory]

That would mean we’d only have around 10% of a police force haha

[@GamingFurry]

Utah Law 76-8-503 - Perjury 76-5-102 - Assault And last but not least, blatant disregard for Arrest Guidelines (77-7-6). Lock him up

[@rainbowshine68]

GamingFurry boom

[@rainbowshine68]

I hope they do get punished severely

[@leonetassinari6654]

#FuckedByAFurry

[@davidiusk]

All the officers there were complicit and should be fired

[@Muck006]

+davidiusk Not fired ... charged and tried.

[@chandralawson1954]

I'm a nurse, she's my hero. I'm glad I don't live in Utah, the end.

[@TheBakedsalmon]

Chandra Lawson Utah is actually a pretty decent place to live.

[@RandolphCthulhu]

I have had to stay in a hospital overnight three times in 50 years. Once for two weeks. The nurses I got each time were great. They looked out for me, took care of me and had empathy. I love nurses, they are the best part of the healthcare system. Doctors though vary a bit. One excellent, one good and one a hack. Keep up the good work Chandra.

[@manihill9426]

TheBakedsalmon No utah is not a decent place to live it full of a bunch of judge-mental mormon pricks and laws here are ridiculous

[@shayneoneill1506]

On the upside, if you did live in Utah, you might get her as a nurse one day, and its pretty clear she'll defend her patients like a bulldog, which is EXACTLY the sort of nurse you want in your corner if things aint looking good

[@raystapp4001]

I lived there to and the cops all of them are bullies with badges. When I was driving in Salt Lake City, I sneezed and I accidentally went on the shoulder and was pulled over and accused of drunk driving. Had to do the breath test and sobriety test for almost forty minutes before I was allowed to leave. Stay away from UTAH!! You might get accused of doing a gas attack if you fart near a cop.

[@trinityjoseph5129]

There should be more nurses like her who are dead set on protecting their patients legal rights and fewer cops like those who arrested her for trying to protect those rights

[@thegirlwiththatface]

sabby matters she should still be praised. She was being intimidated but still held her own for her patient's privacy

[@mertz313]

Trinity Joseph I'm in the medical field.. We all would have acted like that. HIPAA is no joke lol

[@iBeFloe]

Sabby wasn't NOT praising her. They were just saying that every single Nurse would've done the thing because they're supposed to & that unlike Cops, they go on power trips because they can lose their license & job. Again, unlike Cops who, if they do something fire-worthy, don't get fired for it.

[@loganswhite6645]

God I really hope that nurse sues. I honestly feels so bad for her because she did nothing wrong, was basically assaulted and humiliated

[@AngryKittens]

I hope she gets a shitload of money.

[@royalewithcheese7]

LoganTheBurrito NO! I hope is she doesn't sue. Was she wronged? Yes, but taking away funding for an entire police department because one (or two) idiots did something wrong is messed up. That's like firing 10 people because one guy did something unethical.

[@radelta]

she should of complied, let the legal system decide later

[@heathercameron1485]

That's the typical American answer to everything- let's sue 'em! Because money will fix everything!

[@VyperByteX]

You can complain about the loss of funds if you like. Here's a protip: If you don't want to lose funding then train your officers correctly so they don't think they have their own laws and don't violate peoples civil rights with wrongful arrests. A good number of police officers need a firm reminder that they are paid with public money to protect and serve. Not to harass and violate people's rights. Also, if she could would have complied she would have been civilly liable for breaking the law and hospital policy. Meaning he or his family could have sued HER. Easy to say she should have complied when you are not the one facing a possible lawsuit.

[@meowmeowkittymeow]

This is a perfect example of why body cams are absolutely necessary. We see exactly what happened instead of reading or hearing a revised BS story. Good for that nurse. Their jobs are already hard enough without being harassed by the very people that are supposed to protect us.

[@sunnyneonraye1459]

And I have to wonder: did these cops forget they had body cams, or are they just that arrogant and think they can get away with anything?

[@HeroGuy3]

Meygan Penn while I agree that bodycams are necessary i have to disagree that they helped in any way here The people at fault were already at fault and the bodycams haven't changed anything here

[@chavewrig9462]

Sex Defender nah cause a lot of people never believe cops do anything wrong. They literally have to see it on tape to believe there are corrupt cops. White people didn't even believe us when we said cops are beating blacks til the Rodney King tape came out.

[@lrodger2486]

Sex Defender I'm totally lost as to how you think a body camera has not helped in this situation forget the fact that's provide us all with irrefutable proof of bent cops at the work ......unbelievable.....

[@alejandronopasanada8753]

chave wrig white people still don't believe us. This is a moral problem of white people as the largest voting block and dominant culture. That's why I say leave the statues up. Cameras are just cute to police while white people watch us and themselves get murdered by the state and ask "well, was he wearing clean underwear because...."

[@JustinMcBrideVastalant]

We need to have some massive changes to our police force here in the US. Police have been militarized and have been given so much more power in the last 20 years or so. We get more and more stuff like this every week. It's no wonder I feel nervous in the presence of a police officer. The police are supposed to be for the people, for protection. Not these military thugs. I know it's not all police, but it's happening often enough for us to get footage of corruption on the regular. This is why gun ownership needs to remain legal. There's too many people that are labeled as protectors that are working against the innocents best interest. We need to fix this. It's going to get worse before it gets better.

[@jessicar4536]

Sealed unit Body cams, no on/off switch, same idea as black boxes on planes..

[@windyshouts8886]

Only way we can fix this if we fight back go to law makers pass more laws to protect us from them but of course police is the largest gang and they will go after us this is gonna get worse if we don't try

[@andhikabayutrimulya5801]

having a gun while facing police would just making things worse

[@KGisthename]

Justin McBride amen

[@mikeveis2395]

They're not police, they're SS soldiers of the American Gestapo

[@thetwilighthunter1150]

I wanna shake the hand of this nurse. What she did was beautiful. Standing up to people how have way more power then you to protect your patients is noble.

[@odstkchamp7719]

I honestly think that Nurse deserves to be the BAMF of the month. She did the right thing and she stood her ground infront of people who thought they were above the law practically.

[@cmonijustneedaname]

This nurse has balls. The balls to stand up to a police force, to their authority, because she knew it to be unjust. This woman is one of my heroes now. I aspire to have the confidence she had to stand up for what she believed in. Few people have this trait and it's truly beautiful to witness, even though it escalated in to such an awful mess.

[@721rena]

Junior true story

[@JohannesNielsen]

Its simpe, both of those officers broke the law, and needlessly distressed the Nurse in question, and the Law is very clear, and it seems that the senior officer had an agenda to purse, and was assuming that the Truck Driver was drug or alchol intox

[@aalvarez2914]

Exactly. The senior officer was just as responsible. If he hadn’t condoned and covered for it, but instead corrected and disciplined him immediately, it wouldn’t have happened. It’s not only cops that act like this, but the ones that condone and cover for it, that perpetrate it and give so many others a bad name.

[@facehugger8995]

I find it strange that his supervisor had his back makes me think the whole department is corrupt.

[@evan-uk6iv]

Facehugger89 i live here. It is.

[@bammer180and1]

You think so now? Most police departments are corrupt

[@blairence]

Police are also told to stand down in a lot of riots across the U.S. if the police weren't told to stand down in Charlottesville that girl & I think 2 cops(correct me if I'm wrong)would have never died. But this is what the media wants

[@bammer180and1]

Starz they are actually not told that often. Besides, blaming the media for policing actions is hardly relevant. Thanks to the media we're seeing how these departments who swear to uphold the law are not doing that. They make their own laws and 94% they get away with it.

[@blairence]

So I guess the Charlottesville mayor shouldn't take the blame for what he did. especially with the media having obvious bias towards the whole ordeal at the time. That's where I was going. I don't want to type out a long ass paragraph on here about it

[@Bazo1337]

All cops should wear body cams.... and so should all politicians.

[@hashem6356]

they could just turn off the camera if that happens

[@jessicar4536]

Make them closed units, like the black boxes on airplanes.

[@hashem6356]

but yeah i agree with that thought on body cams

[@goodgirlkay]

G Jones Totally agree. We need TOTAL TRANSPARENCY in government.

[@hashem6356]

actually this plan could be flawed very easily if the cop hires someone else to wear the body cam and he gets a new uniform because the camera cant see the face of whoevers wearing it

[@CronicGaming94]

That cop needs to be fired. Period.

[@markharris3451]

Kerry Cronic Vlogs could not agree more. There is no room for this type of blatant brutality in our modern society

[@DDK20284]

Mark Harris not brutally but unlawful arrest

[@Mandalorofclanordo]

Kerry Cronic Vlogs no he doesn't, you've never been a cop you wouldn't know.

[@aldendomino3523]

No, but we have been citizens, and we do know that as Americans, we have rights.

[@KhronosTrigger]

No, all of those cops need to be fired. Tracy and the cop doing the original arrest on the nurse both need to be stripped of their badge, fire arm and uniform, and never allowed to serve as justice for the public.

[@hybrina790]

For me this is exactly why body cams are extremely important, I think being in any position of power a lot of people are likely to abuse it but if we have the footage then we have the proof.

[@stephanienicole776]

I think those cops were so in thr wrong. I give that nurse major respect for standing up for what she knew was right.

[@aliciat2216]

I agree.

[@timarnold6473]

I also agree with you Stephanie

[@mikeveis2395]

They're not cops, they're SS soldiers of the American Gestapo

[@goswami]

Why is it that pretty much any other job, if you fuck up that hard, you are fired. As a cop you are put on leave or something alike but still keep your job. It makes no sense to me.

[@ozymndius]

It's a very easy explanation for Officer Payne, he was a petulant child who wasn't getting his way so he stamped his feet and had a meltdown. But let me be clear, I'm a former ED nurse, and normally there is a very good relationship between nurses and police; police know we are the ones caring for them when they get hurt and we (nurses and medical staff) know police will respond quickly when we get an out of control situation. There is typically mutual respect...it's a shame he has become the face of police interacting with emergency room staff. Nurse Wubbles is a hero.

[@HateTaxesWASt]

Payne is actually a detective. Which makes it worse, since Detective are supposed to be clear-headed and not go nuts when something doesn't go their way. And yes he was acting like an insolent child.

[@epep50]

Kevin Devine: Fellow Nurse (Army), anytime I have interacted with police and had a conversation we end up bonding quickly and have so much in common and similar senses of humor. This is so damaging to our police force who is frantically trying to win the public over after the chaos and lies the social media, liberal news and so on have preached as truth about our law enforcement. He fucked up so bad here and seemed like a bully who just wanted to throw his fat ass weight around and not uphold the law he swore to protect. Watching how "Detective" Payne behaved and treated a health care professional who explained the situation in plain English and he couldn't cope like an adult and a professional and went right to the handcuffs is unforgivable. This man's actions is probably going to result in physical violence towards fellow officers. His career should be over, and that nurse should press charges and sew him in civil court. This bully just handed black lives matter, antifa, sjw's, and our destructive media exactly what they want. Fuck this asshole.

[@dalewalker4614]

@@HateTaxesWASt Even worse, Detective Payne was also the designated "Blood Draw" Detective for the SLCPD and he knew the law just as well as Nurse Wubbles and the House Supervisor she had on the phone. He was an ass under a lot of pressure and totally lost control. They should have suspended his police credentials when he was fired. He'll just move over a county or two and become their problem child.

[@dalewalker4614]

Kevin Devine Another Critical Care RN weighing in here. Not only did this Detective DESTROY the relationship between the LEOs and the Nursing staff, but the lack of the Hospital's own Security Guards to intervene and protect their nurse was despicable at best. If as health care providers, we can't trust our own Security Guards to watch our back, what do we do? There is a REASON the hospital threw money into the settlement pot for Nurse Wubbles....

[@andykaufman5785]

Both cops need to be fired immediately. If the firing is illegal there are "civil remedies" and it all goes away.

[@DIYDaveT]

Kaufman, firing is not enough. Put them in jail. If illegal blah blah blah. Who cares if it is illegal because the cops don't care if they do illegal things to the people. It's time for cops to feel the short end of the stick.

[@earthcolours_]

Damn that truck exploded like it was a Michael Bay movie. Hope that guy is ok

[@miah5561]

That Brown Guy hey I saw you on Pete's video

[@earthcolours_]

Miah Jackson People always say that but I've never seen this guys video. Are you sure it was me or is it someone using my profile picture?

[@tonypeppermint5329]

I'm wondering what happened to the guy.

[@Richard-mg4rx]

That Brown Guy knowing it exploded like a Michael bay movie that's unlikely. Probably is scarred by Michael bay horrible acting

[@titotitotito]

That Brown Guy Thats why u dont make a crack lab in ur car

[@mirandaraeallday]

As a medical professional and a nursing student it is our main job to be an advocate for the patient. No matter who it is. She was doing the number one job as a nurse.

[@katrinak6215]

Those officers in the nurses "arrest" should be fired...they are the problem with "law enforcement ".

[@chrisridge5504]

Katrina K Are you using the quotes to quote the video or to imply it being fake or incorrect?Because they are law enforcement and she was arrested so should I assume the former or?

[@katrinak6215]

ChrisRidge I used the quotes because the arrest was unlawful & the officers were the embodiment of fake law enforcement. At least in my opinion.

[@itsbobmd]

Before you pass sentence, what do you know about the cop?? What do you know about Utah law?? Any idea as to the cops background, his experience? I mean before you want to take away somebody's livelihood I would think you'd want ALL the facts first.

[@katrinak6215]

Bob Chapman It is soley based on this video & the one from the following day. Providing more information. Believing that Phil does his research thoroughly, it seems pretty clear to me. But hey, everyone can have an opinion! ☺

[@itsbobmd]

HIPAA is a joke.. Obamacare, and his backdoor gun controls gutted any HIPPA laws and rights anyone had.

[@tiffanym851]

I applaud Alex Wubbels' actions and bravery that day. However, I want to point out that Alex, while an amazing nurse, is much more than that.. did you know shes a 2 time olympian? 1998 and 2002!

[@themockalove]

tiffany M who cares? It doesn't affect the case in the video

[@Space-Glitter]

Lol it's the comments section, at least this fun fact is relevant to the video shown and not just like one time in 1993 I took a trip to Big Lots and they were out of the purple sky dancer I wanted so I threw a fit and we went to KB Toys instead. Now THAT would be something that no one would care about. This at least was a cool, random fact that you def didn't know about that nurse. Or are you just mad because now that your brain processed a new piece of information about this woman it had to push out some of your fav Blink-182 lyrics?

[@OG_HazelGrrl]

Dana Webb LMAOOOO I think I love you

[@RonSafreed]

Officer Payne is a bully/browbeat & when he was a kid & a ten & youth, he was still a bully/browbeat & a socio-psychopath. I would never trust him in any police duty he does !!!!!!.

[@lydiacolon3564]

tiffany M a

[@Shmaardvark]

The nurse isn't just protecting the patient, she's also keeping her nursing license safe. If she got the blood without cause, she could've lost said license.

[@humansvd3269]

Casey Willhite Yup, they are literally required to do this. This nurse just made herself look good to the Utah Nursing Board.

[@alexi8741]

What's really fucked up about this whole situation is that if that nurse had provided the police officer the patients blood because it was "easier" she could have been fired and lost her nursing license meaning she'd be out of a job and unable to get another job in her field. Incredibly selfish of an officer wanting to violate patient security and risk a nurse's job just to do something his way

[@JosephEliason]

Exactly

[@EllieC130]

Shows what balls the nurse had as well.

[@KookiesNolly]

Alex I what she did was just normal to me, not heroic or whatever just regular situation what I don't get is why is the police doing all this. Why would they be held accountable if a guy they were chasing eventually killed someone. That guy was running away so he certainly did something wrong, why aren't we focusing on that?

[@budgiecat9039]

maybe the victim can sue the department for escalating a high pursuit chase putting him in danger?

[@TheYengirl]

Well the nurse will win millions in an easy win lawsuit. She will never have to worry about drawing one more blood sample when she can win the millions and never have to work around idiots ever again!

[@chatterbox4875]

My mum used to be a nurse and i have to say that their job is one of the hardest out there. She had to work unreasonable hours and night shifts while having three young children and still got up and did her job every day. Nurses don't get the respect they deserve, they have the same knowledge as a doctor but after the diagnosis they don't walk away and talk tot another patient, they stay with them and treat them as a human. When i saw that video it made me so angry that the police officer treated her like that, he was basically saying "because I cant do what I want I'm going to arrest you" almost as if to prove a point. He handled her like some rag doll and he should be charged with something because what he did has to be illegal. She was doing her job and I'm glad that she stuck to the hospitals policy's. I have so much respect for her.

[@cathrynhodson5960]

Art Basement they get paid normally but they aren't rich like surgeons and doctors

[@angelsinger4574]

Chatter Box I'm disabled, so I see more than my fair share of medical professionals. I once read a quote that said, "Doctors diagnose, nurses provide care." This has absolutely been the case insofar as I am concerned. In all these years, I have had many, many bad experiences with doctors...and only one with a nurse. They do amazing work, and it is very much appreciated.

[@sabrinaelle8597]

Another thing that wasn't mentioned in this video but was mentioned in the news articles I've read... was that the policy they are talking about...was approved by both hospitals AND law enforcement..so the law enforcement officers were going against their own policy as well.

[@TheNightowl001]

Actually, they didn't have any choice but to approve it. It's Federal LAW!

[@RonSafreed]

When a cop is a bully/browbeat/narcisist/hedonist/socio-psychopath, does not care about the Constitution/Bill of Rights & Christian/Biblical principles, such cops are not trustworthy !!!!!!

[@neill392]

@@TheNightowl001 Supreme Court ruling.

[@yoloswaggins2161]

"I need your blood" - Officer Dracula

[@alexsiemers7898]

I'm pretty sure there was a Geico ad which had Dracula at a blood drive.

[@BATayl0r]

"I need your blood" - Dr. Acula

[@lvl21bellsprout92]

IT IS NOT THEIR LAW, IT IS THE PEOPLES!!!!

[@sammistrade]

Thank you for reporting so objectively on the nurse story!!! I just graduated nursing school and am to begin working soon. I can't even begin to imagine what that poor nurse went through when she was simply just trying to protect her patient. I think she handled everything so well considering. People have to remember that as a nurse, not only are we protecting our patients, but we are also protecting OUR license that we went through years of schooling for! Can you imagine if this nurse gave into the police harassing her, handed over the blood, violating the rights of the patient and lost HER license as a result?! BOOM. Career over just like that. Absolutely ridiculous.

[@LawdawgOG]

Cops are suppose to de-escalate situations... not escalate. They all should be fired. They literally didn't do their job. And we all know what happens when we don't do our jobs. We get fired. But hey police are all gods. So who are we the people to tell them what to do.... We the people.

[@taylorbrine]

That whole first story proves how much we need body cams. the whole thing blown open because it was recorded constantly.

[@chaosXP3RT]

Taylor Brine Who uploads the footage from the bodycams? Doesn't the camera go back to the Police Department to be uploaded by an officer?

[@batron6030]

chaosXpert so you're thinking that the entire olive department is corrupt, even the specific people chosen to look over/keep the footage?

[@jamielove2045]

But can't officers turn the cameras on and off if they wanted too?

[@krumb520]

Ashley Harris In some places cops get in trouble if they turn off their bodycams.

[@patricksmith2704]

I don't understand something. Police officer breaks the law...........................police officer doesn't go to jail. What is the point to having laws if it only applies to me?

[@Nimbus3690]

Does what he did carry a jail sentence?

[@MrZippoman777]

Ivin3690 they got strict laws about fuckin with emergency room people but this chick was the only one watching some burnt crispy majic underwear mutherfuckers hooked up on tubes someone could have died while she was held outside

[@ethanl1225]

Ivin3690 assault?

[@Nimbus3690]

MrZippoman777 I guess that's true. But I think that might be a reasoning to offer in court against the cop, perhaps in a lawsuit. I am asking about what's readily available in the books. Is the unlawful arrest by the cop of that nurse a jail-worthy offense? What is the punishment for that, ignoring all the potential worst-case scenarios that could happen with the nurse not being in her post at the hospital?

[@tsalvo9290]

assault/kidnapping, it was an unlawful arrest and he manhandled her and kept her illegally. That is assault and kidnapping.

[@sophiegraceward]

That guy seemed angry he was being told no.. clearly needs to be fired and seek some anger management.

[@booboo4341]

Sophie Ward totally agree. She was legally in the right, even if she was rude to the officer she's still be in the right. But she wasn't, she was a calm and helpful as she could be.

[@Jake-ir3gw]

His superior told him to arrest anyone who got in the way of getting the blood sample.

[@slein1055]

Boo Boo she wasn't even rude

[@booboo4341]

niels van blitterswijk I know. That's what I'm saying. She could of been rude and she still would of been in the right. But my point was that she's wasn't even rude, she was as helpful and calm as she could be

[@nanoflower1]

That's the thing that is so strange. Numerous people have pointed out that it's a simple matter for the officer to get a warrant for the blood sample. Just a phone call and a few minutes and he should have what he needs to get the sample so why is he making it such an issue. Going through the argument with the nurse and arresting her is going to take more time than getting the warrant. So this seems to be more about sending a message to the hospital than actually doing the job.

[@ThunderChunky101]

These men should be jailed. That's not even hyperbole, she was clearly assaulted and the officer in charge clearly KNEW he was breaking the law.

[@markadams8557]

I'm so glad Phil makes these videos so I don't have to sit through the news on television.

[@therestingmitchface6241]

Mark Adams TRUE THIS

[@meganward3072]

SAME

[@rosegordon03]

Mark Adams same

[@jessewilliams9575]

Blind Prosopagnosiac MSM is so unreliable and biased at this point, that it's honestly not worth watching.

[@qmclic5818]

Does anyone know any other good news channels to watch on KZbin?

[@briannamarie2659]

If Detective Payne was so brazen on camera, I can only imagine the horrible things he has done when no one was around.

[@samwalker4913]

Brianna Marie very good point

[@richandohibachilee6638]

The officer shouldn't just be suspended from the case he needs to be suspended altogether, this is a tiny fragile man who has obviously not heard the word no enough. The other officers there should have intervened. In the video you can see them standing around uncomfortable while a woman is being assaulted at her place of work after showing no intentions to get violent.The nurse was incredibly brave and it was incredible how she stood her ground.

[@Shirley36]

He should be fired. End of story. Nobody would feel safe with a cop like that around.

[@1poetaconfundido]

Richandohibachi Lee guess what they dont going to get any consequences for the action a the very least maybe suspended but not fired thats for sure

[@misha130]

I very much doubt the nurse thought this would happen nor did she really have another option

[@garrettdark5668]

The other officers are cowards for not intervening, they are even used for further intimidation as the arresting officer tells the hospital staff anyone who intervenes will be arrested by the other officers. Then the other officers after cowarding down, start trying to help the arresting officers by handling the protesting hospital staff. The hospital security are also cowards for not protecting those under their protection (the hospital staff and patients), they go even so far to assist the arresting officer by pushing the button to remotely keep the doors to the outside open so the arresting officer can drag the nurse outside. There's so many failures and things wrong in this incident.

[@i_notold8500]

All of the incriminating body-cam foorage is, in my opinion, a good sign that the higher-ups in the police department aren't backing this crap. May be self-preservation on their part but it's still a good thing.

[@Todd209S]

I retired last December from a twenty year career in Law Enforcement. Ten of those years I was a Sergeant (A shift supervisor) in charge of a team of officers. I tell you, if one of my officers had done this exact thing I would have (upon arriving on the scene) released the nurse from custody with an apology and with information on how to contact the department's internal affairs unit. I then would have told the officer to turn in his badge and gun to me right then and there and I would tell him to go home and that he would be contacted pending an internal investigation of his actions. The detective violated this woman's constitutional rights, he should be terminated from his agency. The Lt. should be disciplined for gross incompetence and failure to act when he has witnessed a crime (the violation of the nurses rights) and for dishonesty (saying one thing to the nurse and hospital staff and basically the opposite to his own officers). Again, as a twenty year LE veteran, this situation is indefensible and if the SLCPD attempts to defend either of these disgraces to the uniform, the chief should then also be removed.

[@bookwyrmn]

Todd209S Thank you. It is you and the good cops I know that give me hope for real change and accountability.

[@MizuMark]

Todd209S god bless you sir!

[@FattNinja121]

Thank you. I argue on here constantly that these cops are the minority. Unfortunately, the minority get the most media coverage and ends up making everyone look bad. Thank you so much for your service, this country would fall apart without amazing men like you.

[@TyDie85]

Todd209S I was angry with this. But I am aware all cops aren't like this. but I'm of the mind that the personality type that goes into law enforcement is SOMETIMES one of a person who wants to throw power around. Surely you knew some cops like that. Hell, I know people at my own job that are like that. But when it comes to law enforcement, it is WAY much bigger of a deal than some manager at McDonald's being a prick. Anyway, thank you for NOT being like that. And I'm thankful to all the officers who actually DO care about the public.

[@jessiedawn123]

Yes I support most officers because I know they work hard but man this guy and all the guys there need to be fired can you imagine what they have done not on camera I mean that poor woman would of lost her job if she would of done what they asked

[@ridabukhari7421]

Phil your way of sharing the news is immensely eyeopenin and makes a great impact on your audience, including me. Could you cover the tragedies happening to the people of Burma, how children are being burned alive and starved to death. It was so shocking to see all this happening right now in 2017, and watching it happen to see nothing can be done. You are raising awareness and it is acknowledged.

[@tyreiksilva590]

Rida Bukahri love this comment

[@Merryn13]

I second that! (both comments above me)

[@ToTouchAnEmu]

I'm so glad bodycams are becoming a thing.

[@brentkillian]

ToTouchAnEmu me too

[@bearwynn]

don't rely on them too much however, some cops abuse the fact that they have a cam to plant evidence and then "discover" the evidence while recording body cam. They're great, but you still gotta be suspicious

[@lololol924]

ToTouchAnEmu Too true. Though I am curious if these were always on, as the latter recording seemed to be a private conversation to his colleagues. While it was very useful in this case, I feel it's important to preserve the privacy of cops when they aren't involved in an altercation. Cops see fucked up shit, and the best way they cope is engaging in dark humor with their colleages. If even those conversations are recorded, and someone gets offended, then that cop might lose their job....which I'm against.

[@JD867]

We've always had them where I live. I've ridden along with local police before, and its hilarious to think that all the things I said were recorded.

[@JoshMarshain]

Strong Bad unless some shit like this happens idk if anyone is gonna go through a cops cam footage, like day to day business and conversations unrelated to an incident. That'd be way too much to go through

[@obrigaah]

Police Officers NEED to be held way more accountable for their actions. I respect Law Enforcement and I know Law Enforcement is an extremely serious job. Mishaps need to be taken seriously. Those police officers must be fired. A suspension is just not enough justice.

[@DIYDaveT]

JAIL!!!!!!! It's assault!!! Jail!!!!!!! Just like would happen to me if I did it or you did it. Why do people think just losing a job is just punishment simply because a cop is involved?? It's not enough!! Same treatment under the law should apply to me or to them and until that happens I will never be satisfied.

[@powersteamracing]

There is no doubt in my mind that the officers wanted the blood sample to see if they could put any amount of blame on the truck driver. I'm a trucker myself and the lengths police will go to drag a trucker through the mud is horrifying. My father (a fellow trucker) had stopped to assist with an accident that occurred on the other side of the highway, and when police arrived they gave my father a real hard time. They asked for log books, a breathalyzer, and drug test. They even accused my father of blinding one of the victims with his high beams and causing the accident, when the accident had already happened by the time my father came across it. If a cop can save his ass by trying to blame a trucker, they will go above and beyond to do so.

[@CadenceReads]

You can assume that about all officers because of the few he had that encounter with? I don't think so. That trucker was also an officer.

[@PublicEnemyMinusOne]

Christopher Powers Your comment really makes me wanna say "Respect" 🤗

[@powersteamracing]

CadenceReads my opinion isn't based off of just one instance. Every trucker I've ever talked to has nearly always had an issue with either Police, DOT, or border guards giving them a real hard time. Are there good cops, sure, but the cops that do start after a trucker usually go above and beyond to find something. I had a cop pull me over claiming i was impaired driving just because i literally scratched my ass for a second and subsequently drifted onto the rumble strip for 1 second. Nearly every trucker hits that strip every day for a number of reasons; passing another truck, gust of wind hitting the broadside of the trailer, etc. The officer starts giving me the full 9 yards: log books, flash light in the eyes, asked if i was on meds or sleepy, when did i wake up, when did i start driving, when did i stop last, on and on and on. Just as he was asking me to step out of the truck he notices my dashcam. "Is that a dashcam?" "Yes" "Is it recording right now?" "Yes. Front facing and in the cab. Company requirement, hardwired in." "....... fine!" He immediately gave me back my paperwork and let me go, after he realized he was being recorded. And i doubt they'd care if it was an officer, especially a reserve officer. If they could pass the buck I'm sure they would.

[@itsbobmd]

You do know the truck driver was a cop too don't you??MAYBE they wanted the sample so a year from now when the family of the escaping felon hires a lawyer and comes back and sues the truck drivers family, and the trucking company they have undeniable proof that the truck driver was in no way at fault? Or are you too cynical to think from that perspective?

[@powersteamracing]

Bob Chapman I did mention that he was a reserve officer, so i am aware. And you are correct, they could be doing that. I'm just going by how they chose to handle the situation. It came across as more of a "cover my ass mode", rather than a "cover his ass mode".

[@rat6560]

As a former officer. the officer was wrong. even if she did draw the blood. it would have been not admisible in court.

[@rat6560]

It depends on the charges.

[@rat6560]

depends on what they were accused of

[@SlideRulePirate]

The likes of Nurse Wubbels literally protect us while we sleep... or are even unconscious. That does sound like it should be a job for the cops but, as we see, sometimes it's the cops you need to be protected from. Crazy world.

[@mikeveis2395]

They're not cops, they're SS soldiers of the American Gestapo

[@nielamor3499]

police need to be held accountable for their actions. my boss talks about how his dad was a cop and the shit he used to get away with in todays age he cannot do, yet today we still see wrongful actions being commited. only now we have proof and all they get is a suspension.

[@ThatBillmanGuy]

They have unionized away every punishment that could befall them. Short of 3rd party actually catching them on camera committing murder, the worst they get is a paid vacation. Body cams just end up "malfunctioning" a lot, so they're no help.

[@nielamor3499]

Billman Warren precisely and it's absolutely stunning to see that no real punishment is being handed to those who abuse their power.

[@nielamor3499]

i also want to add in no way i am bashing ALL police officers. i respect them fully but when they abuse their power i cannot stand for that. in no way would i be able to bring myself to just let shit slide.

[@ryanschur8730]

State troopers are the primary offenders in situations like this. I think it's mainly influenced by the fact that since they're not given a specific community to protect and serve, they don't view themselves as protectors, but enforcers. It's like they feel the need to cover each other's backs because they're afraid no one else will if someone tries to press charges against them.

[@MichaelCameron1]

The nurse was in the right, the police officer was being scummy. I hope he gets fired, poor woman 😕

[@WrenHuang]

right? Patient rights is a thing and the woman was being 100% civil!

[@camilasuemi6850]

yeah. They apologized her, but i think it was traumatizing enough for her. It would be to me. Getting arrested all of a sudden just because im following the hospital's laws. Terrifying.

[@joshr408]

Coffee Cat Gaming misread the comment. Read again

[@gamerboss5299]

Michael Cameron Fired and prosecuted.

[@rainshadow1844]

When the officer states in private that he pretty much knows he's in the wrong, all the sudden there's no longer any need for debate. Anyone actually defending him (haven't seen anyone defending him at least in the comments for this video, but then this video has all the really damning evidence in it) is just arguing for argument's sake.

[@smadak]

STOP THESE DIRTY COPS. They need to be fired, like in any other job. I'm sick of these monsters who abuse their power and get away with it.

[@earthstar7534]

Kelly this, please please please we need consequences for these abuses. Those who uphold the law should be hold just as, if not more accountable to it.

[@jduenes7338]

Kelly, like the garbage fucks that plant drugs then say "ohhh look what I found" then arrest a father a mother brother or sister that will face who knows how long behind bars. They make me sick. If the police department would actually get rid of the bad ones, people wouldn't be so distrusting of "law enforcement".

[@jimmyk7760]

I read the quotes , and all I hear is the cops need to be fired ! NO ! They don’t need to be fired , they need to go to jail ! A message needs to be sent to all officers ! GO BY THE LAW ! A lot of my family is in law enforcement, and they don’t have a problem with upholding the law !

[@davis6123]

At this point, I don’t feel comfortable with police conducting investigations into police “brutality” incidents. I’m just wondering how much trust we can give them.

[@electricmocasins7789]

TitanicMan I believe they have a committee or board that does internal police investigation although maybe it's different in the US

[@jrios1550]

J Alloway that organization has been proven to be corrupt and depleted. It's just for show they don't investigate.

[@numberxiv2471]

TitanicMan Who do we even turn to anymore? Its becoming harder and harder to trust police these days. Who do you go to when the people whose job is to protect and serve are the ones causing problems?

[@rc2884]

Wrong doing by police such by handled and investigated by an impartial third party. But the reality is that cases are often solved internally or given to a neighbouring police force. Even third party investigators are usually ex cops. I think something like a senate investigative committee consisting of members of the public and local politicians is a much more viable solution

[@malcanth3481]

TitanicMan Internal police investigation: "I know you think I did something wrong, but I investigated it and I'm innocent. No further evidence is required." I know it isn't that simple and there are some policies that are supposed to make the investigation take place without bias, but sadly there is a culture of silence in the police. The public doesn't really get to see behind the curtain so it becomes hard to trust the police when they say nothing wrong happened. Maybe what happened wasn't really wrong, but it hurts public trust when there is evidence pointing to wrong conduct and the only evidence police give that nothing wrong happened is "trust us."

[@budemawa411]

Honestly, as soon as a cop abuses his power so obviously like this he should be arrested and fired no questions asked

[@natandessietoo]

HIPAA - protects patients rights. This is WHAT the nurse was protecting for the patient. I was a burn ICU nurse myself (before youtubing). As soon as he has the warrant he is legally part of the patients care and THEN can have the rights of this patients information and blood.

[@neill392]

No probably cause, that's why they can't arrest him or get a warrant. They both belong in gaol.

[@k3vinyAng]

Therefore, the officers were not doing things LEGALLY as they were saying. Its kinda funny how the Lieutenant was being so condescending acting as if he knows everything. I would be so embarrased to have those type of Officers under my watch.

[@synergisticcollusion134]

A warrant does NOT "make them legally part of the patient's care", it just gives them access and/or possession to whatever the warrant specifies. By wording it the way you did - and I SERIOUSLY hope this was just a case of bad wording - that'd mean a complete stranger, the random cop, could make medical decisions, including treatment, and/or gain access to information they're NOT privy to, and all WITHOUT the patient's knowledge nor consent, which is NOT true.

[@nearlystuck6947]

Every single cop involved needs to be removed from the job, All the ones standing by letting this officer bully the nurse..

[@DIYDaveT]

JAIL JAIL JAIL JAIL JAIL JAIL. Loss of job is NOT enough. When a cop attacks like that, you have to understand, he's putting your life in danger because at any time he feels he's losing control he will draw his weapon and shoot you without warning. If we are going to give them G-D like life and death power like that then they must be held to a far higher standard than "lose your job if you illegally abuse your victim". He should be in jail at least 2 years for assault and then have to register as a violent offender and live by violent offender rules for the rest of his life.

[@themos9751]

It still amazes me how manhandling a woman under false justification only warrants a police officer to be striped of blood sample duty. The dude needs serious punishment, demote him, suspend without pay for a few months, fire him if you need to, but don't let unjustifiable manhandling and the intent to commit a crime get off with only one less duty to perform.

[@cbc101117]

Steven Jameston that sounds like a great idea. Let's do it.

[@kevshorty]

Themostrandomofguys why do you call it man handling? He did some serious wrong. But police are trained to not discriminate when it comes to handling people when making an arrest

[@SJ-qs3nz]

Themostrandomofguys sorry but it would still be terrible even if it was a man there's no need to highlight the fact she's a woman

[@starrynightfall00]

Titilola adunni Martins Lol I knew some irrational anti-sjw would make a comment like this. The OP was wasn't refering to anything to do with gender, the nurse in question just happened to be a woman. Control yourself.

[@SneakyBeaky115]

Police unions in America have too much power and will protect bad cops over good cops. It is a scum organisation despite what good they have done for the police force.

[@Salamandabot]

What I want to know is how many times you re-watched the police footage to accurately type the number of "no"'s he said.....

[@lynneldreth6647]

salamanda lol I thought the same thing

[@OG_HazelGrrl]

lmaoooo

[@starboyonyx]

You just listen to the number of nos... It's easy. one, I'm sure. 2 at most.

[@dalewalker4614]

NO! Means. NO! The cops just don't get it!

[@Okuu__]

that first story is exactly why people feel uneasy with police around rather than protected. im aware its a case of a bad apple in the bunch but it just shows some of the horrible shit that happens.

[@thesquishedelf1301]

General Artorias It's worth noting that the original version of that saying was apparently "a few bad apples spoil the barrel"...

[@galacticwarlock2271]

General Artorias if it's only a few bad apples where were the good apples?

[@Okuu__]

Francisco Garay there werent in this story by good apples im referring to the examples of police going above and beyond what their duties entail to provide an improved quality of life to residents of their community.

[@lisamariel.46]

Yours is THE BEST commentary and coverage I have seen of this case. Please keep up with the happenings here and keep us posted. These cops are going to be fired for this.

[@adamb.4404]

Is it bad when I miss Phillip defranco over the weekend cause he doesn't upload

[@ronnyclarke1555]

Adam B. No

[@macjgp]

I'm not a big fan of livestream or recap tbh. I'd say watch the videos of the week if you want a recap... I'd rather get the news for friday as well :(

[@almostskater3210]

+Rhys The livestreaming sucks.

[@Darkpassenger2012]

I'm local, these cops are done. There is public outrage. The DA is starting an investigation and both officers are on leave. ...I just wanna ask if it occurred to the officer that the hospitals' policy was the law as well.

[@spacekoalalove]

The hospital's policy was made jointly with the police department! It was moronic for that cop to pretend their policy was just a "bad habit."

[@chrisridge5504]

Darkpassenger2012 pretty sure it wasn't.If I remember correctly that hospital has been trying to fight the police department in the past to keep them from doing blood draws.

[@russellswinehammer772]

Thank god for the bodycams and the Internet!

[@bezeir]

Russell Swinehammer seriously I agree

[@marisqoits17]

Russell Swinehammer amen!

[@Artliker1234]

Russell Swinehammer thank Hod they didn't "malfunction" this time they must honestly believe the shit they were trying to sell

[@russellswinehammer772]

Artliker1234 it's about time we get some footage that shows cops abusing the power they've been given, now if we can only get some good cops to speak up against this behaviour

[@ryanschur8730]

Russell Swinehammer not that it means anything considering so far the only repercussions the cops are facing is the one detective being suspended WITH PAY.

[@BeautifulMess2022]

Wow, Phillip DeFranco you are amazing. I love how honest you are and how you take your job serious and you don't hold back nor say what people want to hear. 👍👍👍

[@soverysleepy]

the lieutenant needs to be fired and made unemployable, the cop needs to lose his job, accumulated pay and pension, and the nurse needs a medal for heroism. if police break the law, why should anyone obey it? police need to be held to a higher standard always and be punished more severely when they break that standard.

[@peekopakanko7053]

soverysleepy The Lieutenant is a real bully.

[@DyneTyrreal]

I think the currently plague like culture of extreme mindsets sweeping the nation is far worse than a cop who lost his cool and went to far. He should not be held to a higher standard than others, he should be held to the normal standards a cop is SUPPOSED to be held to which isn't always the case as is well know. His punishment should not be more severe than others if they break that standard. You shouldn't wish so much harm to some to a person who fucked up, everybody does it and so do you.

[@jessicar4536]

Regular citizens are sentenced severely to serve as deterents to others, so why not cops too? Because When THEY are corrupted-the whole of society slides downhill as well.

[@DyneTyrreal]

It's fine if they have severe sentences, I just don't agree with holding them to a higher standard and punishing them more severely than everyone else. People now a days hold far to much resentment for the police, it's always been a thing but now it's become a fad to come up with any reason what so ever to hate on them more to the point people are killing cops. The job already had risks as it stood. I don't want to see a civil war in the states just because people built themselves into a frenzy, made worse by the media, and tear the country apart. People say a lot of shit on the internet, they always have, but now I am seeing that boil over into reality more and more and it is pretty damn scary. Also, to Jessica R, you are right... partially. Yes the whole society can slide downhill by corruption of the police, however, this is not the case in the states. The police issue is being blown far out of proportion, it's an issue but not as big as it is shown. If you are worried about corruption taking down society in the States your first priority to look into should be politicians and the media. It's gotten to the point to where the people don't even care what they are told, if it is beneficial in the long run and whether it's true or not, they only care HOW the information is given to them. It's crazy to me that people put more importance into whether something sounds politically correct or not over how much of what's being said is actually true.

[@dereksoyka5057]

Thirty year veteran lieutenant makes a mistake, so he should lose everything he has worked for, he should never work again and not be eligible to receive his pension because why not, taking everything else anyways. The lieutenant made a mistake, the detective was just a crappy cop, but I will ask if you face losing everything you have accomplished in your entire life because you make a single solitary mistake at your place of employment. ...Didn't think so.

[@Lustle]

I mentioned this on another video. And I want to touch on it here to. The whole nurse arrest situation. There's something here I noticed that I don't know if anyone else has. Watch the full video of her arrest. Watch from when Payne gets upset and starts assaulting her (yes, it's assault, put your hands on a cop like that and see what you get charged with). Him shoving her outside. Handcuffing her. Telling her it's her fault for her non-compliance in being illegally arrested. Watch the whole thing. Did you notice something? That skinny cop. He just watches. Watches someone be assaulted. Watches someone commit a crime. Just stands there and let's it happen. He doesn't "participate". He doesn't put his hands on her. Or assist Payne with the arrest. Do you know why? Because he KNEW it was wrong. The most he does, is tap Payne on the shoulder like "hey man, maybe we are making a mistake here". That's IT. If a cop acted like that in any other situation. They'd get fucking fired. If they just stood there and watched someone be assaulted. Or someone commit a blatant crime and did NOTHING. They would get fired. Period. But he does nothing. And you know what? THAT is why nobody trusts the police anymore. It isn't the few bad cops like Payne. Who after a lifetime of dealing with assholes have become that asshole themselves. It's not the cops like Payne who have that "just do what I fucking say even if it's illegal" attitude. It's not the cops like Payne that bully people just because they don't agree with him. There truly is only a few of them. But they aren't the problem. It's the THOUSANDS of cops that just stand there and watch that shit happen. That "backup" their fellow officers with bullshit reports. That don't report abuses like this. That don't step in and do their fucking job and STOP assaults by fellow officers like this. It's those thousands of cops that don't stop those few bad ones. That are "ok" with the bad cops actions because, in the end, it helps them get what they want. Those are the cops that TRULY erode public trust. Because at the end of the day, their tacit "support" of those bad officers is what lets them do what they do. And you think this is the only video like that? Watch some other cop confrontation videos. There's always that one or two cops. In the background. Just WATCHING as some asshole cop throws a temper tantrum. And yet, not doing a SINGLE thing about it. Keep toeing that line boys.

[@zhaitan381]

il just not read that

[@humanhoyer1896]

I live in Utah, have a degree in criminal justice, and i am about to start nursing. Both my parents are nurses as well. With my father working in corrections. Jeff Payne was extremely in the wrong. Implied consent (consent when you're unconscious) has been illegal since 2007 for blood draws. Alex would have been fired for assault. Utah has had problems with Payne for a long time now. It's time to take his badge away.

[@misss4529]

Agreed

[@itsbobmd]

You need to get your money back from whatever school you got your degree from.. Blood draws from incapacitated people is not ILLEGAL, though you have to meet certain criteria (as determined by the investigating officer).Hard to believe you live in Utah, have a Criminal Justice degree and are so ignorant as to your own laws.

[@stevef4010]

Agreed..>I still don't understand why they so desperately wanted the victims blood....seemed like a clear cut case of the perp causing the accident. Trucker was just doing his job.

[@humanhoyer1896]

Bob idk who you got your information from. In Utah, if you are not the perpetrator or suspect of a DUI you do not have implied consent to take blood from an unconscious patient.

[@seanfunnelwebman]

Your parents are heroes for being registered nurses. I will receive backlash saying but I consider nurses to be heroes. Nurses are heroic civil servants. I am showing my supports for nurses as a union member. Some nurses are union. But the point I'm making is I am showing support for nurses.

[@Orion1632]

My thanks to the Nurse too. Is there a go fund me page for her?

[@alcarre4195]

Thanks Philip for summarizing this scenario. I saw several videos but it was hard to get the total picture. The comments by the supervisor are compelling. I hope the nurse and the hospital sue their asses.

[@BartendingPro]

WHAT!! A cop abusing his position of authority?? No way...

[@Chameleonred5]

Believe it or not, this is a rare thing.

[@ozero00rockon]

He's a detective but yeah, it's quite rare.

[@Jonnyvonwallstrom]

Yes this might be a rare situation, but we must not forget that what we see in movies relating to abuses from the authorities are based in real life, so it happens every once in a while because not all men uniform were there for their sworn duty to protect, but some are power hungry that's why they entered the academy.

[@wldct69]

It's becoming more and more frequent with the advent of video. It's proving to be less rare than people think. Listen to that LT. he seriously doesn't know what he's talking about.

[@erauprcwa]

LOL, Bartending Pro, I know, right?!?!? I'm shocked! You know, I just found out that water is wet. We must alert the press.

[@ThreadBanger]

Thanks for the Jiggly shout out Phil!

[@loveland852]

ThreadBanger Sorry your cake didn't jiggle as much as you wanted it to.

[@pay1370]

food is food, jiggle optional

[@luadmo4117]

ThreadBanger I love you

[@wakemiamigreatagain]

A little jiggle makes all the difference in life.

[@sarahshine6026]

Maybe rob should try it? 😅

[@ab0x0fp0tat0s]

Pretty sure DOT requires a drug test after any crash while driving a Truck however, Those cops could've waited a hot minute to get the victims consent and not go around manhandling nurses.

[@mgzone23]

I think it depends on who caused the accident 🤔 the car came in to his lane from two or three lanes away.... They caused the accident not the truck driver ... He has no fault in the situation his a victim... They are trying to cleanup they assess.... Power ,ego,,,, trippping thugs....

[@sparksflyup1223]

"of your policy interfering with my law" No, of THE LAW interfering with your power trip. Can't believe he's been doing it for 22 years. But I'm just upset that in the end, no one's going to get fired or in trouble, because this is America.

[@crystaliss]

I can't believe these guys aren't being fired or at least suspended! This was so wrong...I feel so badly for that poor woman.

[@aperturescience07]

I think we are all glad he covered this topic. The officer was blinded by his power and thought that he was above the law, it seems like we are finding this pattern in cops. I think this women is defending the innocent and she didn't back down because she knew this situation was important to prevent arrogant cops from doing whatever they please. She clearly did not intend anything malicious, I mean the way she screamed "help!" Showed she was surprised that these cops don't understand that she was clearly following protocol. If anyone is still on the cops' side, then you must be living under a rock because the media shows plenty of evidence on why police shouldn't be trusted on their word.

[@orangelion94]

I wish that the punishments for bad cops were as bad as the ones are for the "drug dealers" that they arrest.

[@gladiatortoast4599]

Chicken Liver I agree but why are drug dealers in quotation marks.

[@abe19876]

drug dealer as in they weren't or they where falsely accused

[@DizzyDisco93]

Gladiator Toast because 80 year old ladies that grow weed for their arthritis and glaucoma have been charged as dealers.

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

Chicken Liver so basically, no punishment?!

[@NightStar787]

I love how said "drug dealers" and "druggies" are more likely to get more prison time than a murderer or a rapist.

[@alexringler8293]

Thank you for sharing Nurse Wubbels' story. As nurses, we often feel like we don't have voices. We are silenced by the law or our own administrations and do not have the opportunity to stand up for ourselves and the autonomy of our patients. Nursing is a taxing profession, but knowing that we can still be advocates and lifesavers to our patients is why most of us started our careers in the first place.

[@kelseysawyer9801]

I feel like this has not been pointed out enough in coverage of this story and as some who is familiar with working in healthcare, particularly ERs: This hospital policy is in place to be compliant with HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act). This is a LAW that is in place to protect patient's medical information. This nurse was following the law and could have lost her job and license for compiling with this unnecessary blood draw. As someone who has worked in Emergency Departments and frequently interacted with law enforcement this is an area, when it comes to the healthcare setting, that officers consistently fail to acknowledge.

[@peteyboy6629]

This Police Lt has been doing this for 22 years?! Then he should've been aware that what he was doing was ILLEGAL, and completely putting any possible court case in jeopardy. He should be suspended just based on the bodycam footage.

[@peekopakanko7053]

PeteyBoy That Lieutenant is a real bully.

[@TheNightowl001]

There was no possible court case! The driver of the semi was in no way at fault. He was driving his truck, delivering his load, in his lane, within the speed limit, when this maniac fleeing from police (it appears to me deliberately) decides he'd rather commit suicide than go to jail, so he jumps the center line and slams into the semi head-on. I can tell you with 100% certainty that the trucking company Gray was driving for has insurance, and that the insurance company will sue the police department because the incident occurred during a high-speed chase and they will look to mitigate their losses by claiming the PD has a certain responsibility for causing the wreck. With the same 100% certainty, I can tell you that someone at SLPD said for them to try to find some way to mitigate THEIR responsibility by claiming the driver of the semi was impaired and if he hadn't been he would have been able to avoid the pickup that hit him head-on. Hence why they said they "needed" the blood for a tox screen. No competent judge should have given them a warrant for Gray's lab results, as there was a complete absence of probable cause to suspect him of a criminal act. This was purely a case of cops trying to play CYA, and then trying to manipulate the nurse into giving them what the supervisor probably knew he couldn't get anyway, unless they lied and claimed Gray was driving erratically too. The only possible court case PD would have had was against the driver of the pickup who apparently died on impact, hence, no court case at all. This was solely them trying to find a way to avoid being held responsible in a suit for damages by the insurance company/trucking company/Gray, whose case would have been that had the police backed off, the driver of the pickup might not have driven in such a way as to cause the wreck. Plainly and clearly abuses of power on the parts of both officers.

[@peteyboy6629]

I thoroughly agree there was no possible court case. My point was basically, any officer acting in such a manner, would jepordise any court case. His actions were grossly inappropriate, and he knew as much, or better.

[@mikeveis2395]

He's not a police lieutenant, he's an SS soldier of the American Gestapo.

[@mikeveis2395]

​@@peekopakanko7053he's a right-wing terrorist

[@amargnwalkr]

Maybe at the demolition derby (DemolitionRanch should be a shoe-in, btw) we can have Jake Paul in a Smart Car.

[@flaxringe]

Or a Ford Pinto.

[@NZSmall]

Put him on a quad bike

[@spero360]

Matt Mathers or a bike

[@Joidal]

Put him on a hoverboard.

[@Upup2211]

Or strapped to a target

[@catherinec2600]

Anybody else get recommended this randomly 5 years later?