Philips FIDELIO X2 - REVIEW

Philips FIDELIO X2 - REVIEW
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[@ericouicestmoimeme]

Strange... I have the Fidelio X2HR (not the X2 manufactured by Gibson with problems of QC), a Sennheiser HD 598, an AKG K242 HD, a Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro & DT 990 Pro and the Hifiman HE4XX... The Fidelio is the best for me. The one that gives me the most chills. Precision, soundstage, incredible stereo, warm sound without exaggeration, very deep bass, beautiful (but not as exaggerated as on the DT 770 Pro), etc. I've never had so much fun with another headphones. The Hifiman is probably more neutral (better for the mix) and very very good but the one that surprises me the most is the Philips.

[@vitalieBu]

I just got a pair of X2HR.... unfortunately I don't have anything to compare them against.... but also can't really say that I'm blown away or really impressed.... You mentioned that you have dt770 and dt990 .... I was considering these models against x2hr or even sennheiser hd560s ... what do you think about these?

[@ericouicestmoimeme]

@@vitalieBu The 770s are very good for my taste. They are one of my favorites. They have been a reference for a long time. But these are closed headphones. They are very close to the Fidelio X2HR in my opinion. The X2HR has a fuller, wider soundstage, and incredible low frequencies for open headphones (I've never heard that). I spent hours comparing them. The DT770s have even more punchy low frequencies but almost too much to be real. This is typical of closed headphones. It's very nice but it seems to me that the low frequencies of the X2HR are more realistic. Allow yourself time to fully test the Fidelio. The first few hours, I almost sent him back! I preferred the DT770. Then it maybe broke free, I got used to it in a few hours, found its strengths and today it is my favorite headphones. In front of the DT770 and far ahead of the 990, the Sennheiser HD598, an AKG K242 HD ... I even tried a Hifiman (planar). I sent it back a week later! I also had the DT990. I sold it after six months. Although very nice, it transformed all of my songs. He colored the sound in an exaggerated way. Too much treble. I don't know how to properly explain this in English. Then be careful, they are in 250 ohms. They need a lot of material behind to feed them properly. Maybe you should order DT770s and try them out, compare them? And, then, send back the one you like the least?

[@ww4102]

Very deep bass- no.

[@ericouicestmoimeme]

@@ww4102 Yes, incredible for an open Headphone. But no exageration.

[@hoangduong2759]

Honestly, I can't hear any distortion using these, even if I crank the volume up to ear-blasting level. They're just a joy to hear. Either my source is shit, or my ears are bad, which might save me from future upgrade anyway. Ironically, your video sound is noticeably grainy in compared to others on KZbin. Is it just me who hear it? Nice review though. Still looking for your thought on the KZ ZS3, which I greatly enjoy, to confirm that audiophile things is not for me. p/s: got them for $115 with express shipping on ebay, thought I have a great deal. $80? really? fml...

[@FreeThePenguins]

Anyone with decent headphones can hear it haha, I have ATH-m50's and I can't watch half of youtube without getting annoyed by grainy noise from channels I used to not mind.

[@mrcrunch8000]

@@FreeThePenguins You came here with m50's? lol

[@FreeThePenguins]

@@mrcrunch8000 Yes, yes I did. I got them super cheap, but despite what people say about them, they do feel wonderful(I guess that's what a lot of people feel after moving up from run of the mill stuff)

[@mrcrunch8000]

@@FreeThePenguins I'm not necessarily someone who hates them. Just thought it was funny you posting given what DMS thinks of them. If you enjoy them that is all that matters. I'd rather listen to m50's all day than than the hiss in these videos for 20min.

[@FreeThePenguins]

@@mrcrunch8000 My favorite reviewer is Zeos.. and given what he thinks about them... haha I didn't even know DMS didn't like them.

[@jasonnug]

Hey it's all subjective. I've compared these to HD600s and I personally find these way more fun and the sound stage impresses me much more. I have a small head so the strap was almost too loose for me but after a few days they became the most comfortable headphones I've ever tried and you can pry them from my cold dead ears. I also compared them to the M560s (after burn in) and was not impressed although I might need a more beefy amp for those. I was happy to go back to the warm embrace of my X2s for now. I loved my 598s and AKG 553 Pros but f-ing love my X2s and would NOT trade them in for anything at the moment.

[@nboejui]

I have the 553, and I find those lacking in every department except maybe the mids. What's your experience with those. Like when compared to 598 and X2

[@johnellison3173]

Finally someone who shares my thoughts on these. I didnt mind the bass but i found the treble peak unbearable for music listening purposes. I only use these for gaming now since that extra sensitivity in the bass and treble can actually work to your advantage when gaming. Good review!

[@HOTSPEEDMike]

Have you tried X2HR? Recently I got one and don't hear any issues with bass distortion or muted vocals. The highs are bright but they don't reach beyer's piercing territory. Looks like your pair was from time when there had been issues with quality control. They're made by different company these days. Still... I don't find them great for gaming since these don't have great positioning accuracy. Sennheiser's HD599 are much better in this department. Still I do enjoy X2HR at listening to most music genres. I feel like X2's are taking similar approach of relaxed easy laid back music enjoinment as Sony's Z1R at the fraction of their price.

[@greydogmusic]

Terrific review. Also, your presentation is terrific. Hearing so many reviews that are subpar you are a breath of fresh air. Keep up the good work. I just discovered you the past couple days.

[@massivemikeh]

Sounds like Philips QC issues...my X2s sound nothing like this review. Mine sound very much like my He4XX but with about 3db boost in the bass. Cheers.

[@criarcanal]

I have a he4xx, do you think it would make sense to exchange for the Philips for more bass? I also have a 6xx to be my balanced headphones.

[@ericouicestmoimeme]

@@criarcanal Yes! More bass on the Fidelio X3HR and, for me, a much more impressive soundstage.

[@JustPwner]

Awesome review! Hadn't heard those problems before in a review, and I think they SHOULD be mentioned. If a reviewer praises everything he reviews, he is unboxtherapy...

[@jandersen6802]

You can't trust any reviewer with a link in the description to the product. They get paid for the referrals...

[@hughh.8075]

@@jandersen6802 For some strange reason I never made the connection between product description in the link and a kickback. Thanks J Anderson

[@mishalharbi777]

The X2 was highly praised by innerfidility ( made it to hall of fame after analyzing the heck out of them) and Zeos Pantera (two guys who know a thing or two about headphones) and that's why I got them. I was not disappointed but rather wow'ed by them. They were described as fun headphones and they truly are. Philips nailed it by tuning them based on experts hearing rather than target frequency response and that's why they sound so good with a frequency curve looking the way it is. They are also excellent for gaming due to their amazing sound stage. comfortable, both in wearing and listening and built like a tank. Personally, I would highly recommend the X2 based on months of using them as daily drivers for music, movies and gaming. At the end, reviews are subjective and other opinions need to be factored in for those who want a good headphone for $300. BTW, your last three reviews has covered three of my headphones, the M1060, Argon and X2. If your review the Audio Technica M50x next then you will freak me out.

[@mishalharbi777]

Talking about different opinions, I totally agree with you that the M1060 could be an end game and an amazing headphone for $300. Verum Sonus, on the other hand, described them as "rather mediocre headphones". The subjectivity and personal taste when it comes to headphones is just confusing for those who relay on reviews to find a good headphone to enjoy. my advice, to viewers, sample reviews and roughly average ratings with more weight given to experienced reviewers. it will help reducing the pressure of making up your mind.

[@ritwik0]

If this Zeo Pantera is the same guy from Z-reviews then I am sorry to say he is the worst reviewer I have ever seen. And I don't know how knowledgeable that person is coz he never talks much about intricacies of sound. Some of his fans told me he makes fun of audiophiles for writing about those 'intricacies'. I am not an audiophile but I do own quite a bit of audiophile products and if you don't have the knowledge of the technicalities you certainly are not fit for making an audio channel. But nowadays everyone with money to spend on gear proclaim himself to be an audiophile and starts his own channel/website. That's what I think about Z-reviews. In comparison, DMS3 you are doing a 'better' job. Signing off.

[@heavyharmonies]

Slagging on competing reviewers is low class. Just as going onto Z's channel and talking shit about DMS3 would be uncool. Different reviewers have different styles, different focuses, and different targets.

[@mishalharbi777]

If you read my post carefully you would realize that I am not faulting the opinions of the reviewers but addressing the elephant in the room, the subjectivity of those opinions. You see, reviewers are giving a recommendation of a product to their viewers and many of those viewers are trying to make a decision on where to invest their money when it comes to headphones/amps/dacs etc. What the viewers don't realize is, as you mentioned, it all boils down to the reviewer style, focus and targets which is generally unknown to the viewers (what is reviewer favorite genre of music for example ? is he bass head ? ears sensitive to bright cans? anal about neutrality ?). Viewers confusing personal preferences with a general verdict/stamp of approval of a product may lead some to buy things that may not work for their taste or miss on things that can be totally matching theirs. It is an intelligent discussion that I am sure DMS3 appreciate and invite so please let's not go to what you mentioned in your comments.

[@Leon-nr1mu]

He is often very entertaining, but often I am not sure how to digest his reviews... He absolutely hated Shure SRH1540 which I love and pretty much everyone's praises... According to him they were boring which in my opinion is absolutely not the case. Innerfidelity has them on the Wall of Fame... At the same time Z also absolutely hated Audio Technica M50x and I agree with him a 100% and everyone loves them... This is all very personal and depends on your preferences... He claims that all "good" DAC devices should sound the same in the category above a $100... In theory I would think he has a point, but in reality that is not the case... DACs sound differently. I guess it all depends who you trust and your ability to dissect the bullshit. Personally I was absolutely flabbergasted by Schiit's Fulla 2 reviews across the board including Z, DMS3 and the bunch of others. I was very disappointed in the Fulla 2 and returned the device, but everyone is positive about it. Either no one wants to burn the bridges and to be honest about it or everyone hears things differently. So I guess you gotta to consider entertainment value with reviewers like Z and make sure your likes correlate with with tastes of reviewers you trust. Which is kinds of a black hole... Everyone loves Senns HD650 and you think 'This guy really knows what he is talking about!' and then the same reviewer praises something which is a total garbage... Just compare DMS3 reviews of both Philips headphones he did with Z reviews of the same items. Without ever listening to Philips my common sense tells me that a cans that can be had for $55 brand new can not be that great... Then there is bunch of people who claim that they are amazing audiophile quality...

[@JD-ty9sv]

Thank you for giving your honest take on these cans. I feel a lot of people hype up the X2's but I wasnt as impressed. You pointed out the same flaws I found and so I returned mine

[@SilverKing3578]

With all respect, I love my X2s and I'm shocked that you find the headphone V-shaped and not hi-if. I honestly couldn't hear the severe v-shaped response you talk of in any of the music I listen to which are Queen and Michael Jackson type of rock music all the way to Mozart and Beethoven. I have tried other headphones like HD600s and I agree that the X2s sound coloured and not as neutral compared to them but it's not to the point of having a V-shaped signature and also saying that its not hi-fi is also quite misleading because the definition of hi-fi is different for everyone. Maybe it is just what I think about the X2s. Aside from that, I really like how you review headphones. Your presentation style is very addicting and I will definetely be watching more of your videos.

[@mbahmarijan789]

he has 2 holes in one ear, so that is...

[@sanjeewasamaranayake]

Who say this is hifi. It beginner version or mid-fi. I moved from this is AKG K712, LCD2, K812, HD800, HE6, HE1000, HE560, Elears and HE400i. Whilst I have sold almost all others in down sizing this is still with me because they are very good. I do agree that there are some dips and I do not listen to mp3s or via poor dasc/amps and mainly at a lower volumes and for that these can compete with any of the other HPs I mentioned above with 5-10% margin. With foorbar EQ issues could be fixed to some extent and with added low price and EQ these are very good. Can you tell me any HP that is not having problems (wither sonics or comfort) and even at at twice the price!!

[@nhk403]

You totally predicted their new price on Amazon at $100! I guess now it's acceptable hahaha

[@nickydee569]

During the time of this review they were manufactured by Gibson and they went with cheaper production methodology than what Philips would have liked. I think the current Philips X2HR is better than the Gibson X2 imo

[@cadetsparklez3300]

@@nickydee569 oh so they are diffrent..

[@wojtekr8081]

Each to their own but... If these were only "mid-fi" there wouldn't be dozens of people selling their HD600 after buying X2's. No headphone is without flaws, but there's something special about fidelio's people want to listen to them more than some highly acclaimed and several times more expensive cans. The only thing I do not consider hi-fi with these is limited impedence and therefore no scalability.

[@birdsoup777]

Just got them and they are awesome.

[@S.G54321]

Had my X2s for a good while, im using my HTC 10 running on poweramp alpha, Chord Mojo as a Dac and Elemental Watson as an amp. The Watson really brought the X2 to a new level. A seriously good new level. I am straight up blown away of how fun these headphones are while still being detail freaks. Hopefully Gibson has finally fixed the qc issues. But wow, I thought the Mojo could show what these could do but once the Watson came in........ Yup. All I am saying is yup with a huge smiley face. 😁

[@ivanaylov303]

It'll be interesting if you can find and review Beyerdynamic DT770 80 Ohms. I'm curious about your opinion and how you find them especially in the bass and sub-bass range.

[@santiagodiaz5150]

Hey DMS3 did you check if you had the original Phillips X2 or the Gibson made X2, Gibson licensed them from Phillips the difference is on the original...the pads can be replaced the Gibson pads are glued on . Maybe they Gibson fucked up the sound signature? SD

[@RojasTKD7]

Santiago Diaz I owned both and didn't notice a difference. Didn't own then at the same time, but in a close time frame, so I can't be 100%.

[@taiefmiah]

Santiago Diaz there was a difference in quality control. the drivers, housing and damping were the same. they should sound the same

[@charlesjacques750]

Wow, I totally love these X2's. I just couldn't take them off as soon as I got them. Did not hear anything you described what amp did you use if any? Just ordered the HD 6XX which will need an amp at 300 U.

[@DMS3TV]

I used them with NFB-11, Dynalo, Fulla 2, and a few others.

[@Tigerex966]

that may be why you got distortion, try them without and rearview, unless you have a defective gibson pair, it is now a coin toss if you get a good pair or not. the 600 650 havw WAY more plastic by the way but quality control is way better

[@JPeetje]

What would you suggest for gaming headphones? Cause I had my eyes on these, but now you made me sort of rethink this. I just want to have it right without wasting money on several headphones.

[@2Hale45]

So happy you pointed out the AKG style strap. Never even thought about it before. I hate that style. I have the same problem as you do with them. Always been on my list for must have but in Canada they are so insanely expensive for what they are. They are being scratched off my must have list going forward. Will stick to my trusty ol MA900. Keep it up man awesome channel.

[@taiefmiah]

Craig Brook yh ma900 are these done right. better imaging, less grainy and near enough the same soundstage. the bass on the ma900 is better

[@cothealiv780]

Not my favorite headphones that I own, but I really disagree about the sound. I don't really agree about it missing anything. Maybe my ears are different.

[@321Yum]

Buy the leather Dekoni pads for these ( X2HR ) and it fixes all issues. Mainly the treble. It turns them into a 300-500 headphone. Only problem I have is they sound far away and quiet. They seem very hard to drive, despite their impedance and sensitivity.

[@HelliOnurb]

I have used these daily for about 6 years now. I think his criticism on them is spot on, but these aspects of the headphone didn't really detract from the enjoyment I got out of them, this could also very well be influenced by the types of music we listen to (I very rarely listen to music with vocals or electronic music). As a side note, the build construction wasn't as good as it seemed at first, a screw got loose (impossible to screw in without disassembly) and caused the headband to break I think. The earpads broke a couple years ago. I do take very good care of my things but the daily use was too much for them.

[@xivix6710]

I like you honest reviews ! definitely a thing to listen to before any purchase

[@drunksaru]

Bought the X2 to get a feel for the soundstage. Agree mostly with what you said. The graininess I don't mind especially since it's gotten a lot better since the X1 and the spikes you talk about seem a bit high on a graph but to my ears, it's not as bad as some of the other phones with similar spikes. I don't use it anymore music listening but I enjoy it a lot for movie watching. :)

[@TonyFernandezjkdjedi]

You sure you rated the X2"s I don't get any of those peaks or drop offs, the pair I have excel in the mids and live recordings sound like your sitting in the front row. $80 on Ebay..that's highway robbery for these cans.

[@martins.5880]

Agree. $80??? Not even $100!!! Used abused without a box a set of these go for at least $140 on ebay. I dont have a problem with mine no distortion whatsoever and I listen to classical music as well as rock. I dunno this reviewer, but his hate for these cans is too much, lol. He should be partial and use more facts on his reviews.

[@gustavvasa8757]

lol i bought these brand new with a 2 year warranty for 79$

[@m.g.i2480]

Yeah i mean the bass being to loud (to me not distortet in any ways) ok, but the headphone imo is above its price tag. I have the HD650 and though they are a tad more natural sounding. The X2s are to me more lively.

[@HenryFanboy]

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[@budgetking2591]

@@gustavvasa8757 then you made a really good purchase, i wish i could get one for 100

[@ayohell]

Good review man... pretty much agree with you having owned them a for some time and while I never use them for music, with a boom-pro they do make an excellent gaming headset.

[@Steadybeheady]

These can be subject to some QA issues from what I hear, I'd look into that about the distortion.. I have the HE400i, TH-x00 PH, K712 Pro and these going through a Creative X7 with 4 Sparkos op-amps and a LD 1+ with M8100 tubes and Burson op-amp. No distortion at any volume on my end, sold my HD 598 after getting the X2 and 712 as there was just that much of a leap over the 598

[@AndrewWoodford]

Thumbnail shows "Fidelo" and an X1

[@DMS3TV]

Andrew Woodford you are indeed correct

[@AndrewWoodford]

Alright cool! Dig your style.

[@o0ampy0o5]

Smooth, cool style with an "FM" broadcasting voice except there are too many obvious edits. Memorize your lines and rehearse so you can get through a review without having to cut and patch it up like a rag doll.

[@KristoferProphet]

I have these and love these for years. What would be comparable to these but closed back instead?

[@MattBaker95]

Hello, its me again. The guy who said that you didn t listen to these headphones properly. I am sorry I was a bit rude last time but mate, now I have these burned in and tested some separate sounds on them like acoustic curves. Some songs like I want to spend my lifetime loving you which are mids centered, classical music and even infected mushrooms. Man this review is so not true. Don t know what you are listening to but these are even superior in detail and naturalness then my AKG712 which are 250 euro in my country now. They had peaking highs when they weren t burned in but as they go they get better and better. I like these much better than my previous senns 600. I ll just leave this here so everybody who watches this can see that it is not true for everybody what you claim in your review. Thanks anyway for this review as it shows that there is not one true sound that everybody likes but I just can t leave it unsaid sorry :D

[@darthgzuz]

sound is very subjective ... no two people can like same thing best way to judge someone's audio reviews is to judge their recommendations with ur personal experience thats how i found this channel n thats why i like it ... so any new update on monolith? how they r doing for u? (both of them) and plz do a review of T50RP MK3 someday ... i really want to see their place among HE400i, M1060, M560 and HD600 ...

[@tichyzishh3379]

For my ears the M1060 are absolutely fantastic, kind of difficult to put it all in words, it's definitely one you need to try yourself

[@peterwood2633]

Find mine excellent certainly in gaming but also music. Mid range maybe slightly scooped but overall engaging non fatiguing sound. Good comfort

[@im.so.c0ld]

awww yiss, the review I was waiting for!

[@Sunnshineforever]

Have the Philips X1 ..When amped correctly they will present amazzing articulation - with very good balance throughout the Freq range ..I do have the Stax system / T1 amp with Lambda signatures earspeakers and the Sennheiser HD 580 along with my HD 600 so i do have solid reference Phones I did compared these headphones against / / Philips X1 can hold it's own against many competing headphones beyond its price point ..keeper for me those Philips X1..

[@CaptnKrksNippls]

My biggest problem with the x2s is, like you mentioned, the sharp peaks in the upper mid range and highs. S and t sounds are ear scratchingly bad sometimes. And I like Beyerdynamic highs but these just do it poorly imo.

[@taiefmiah]

Saturite it's the graininess and decay. it's just pushint against your head.

[@MattBaker95]

What you described was present in mine only until burn-in. They sort of tend to get better and better. After 2 weeks of 3-8 hours use a day the sharp highs disapeared. Sound overally got darker after burning them in a little. Did you try that ?

[@rabbit3586]

do you feel like beyers are better than x2?

[@tili_]

did anybody find a solution for this?

[@rabbit3586]

Taylan Özberk I bought the X2's. They sound crisp and clear, the bass is very dynamic and I have no complaints whatsoever. These feel like bassy hd 600's with slightly less detail, but the bass really makes up for it. I came from ath-m50x and kept them aswell. I hope I can help you, it was a big long journey of decisionmaking before I got these.

[@chillstep4life]

I bought the X2, and then I returned it. I don't know if Philips has some sort of QC issue, but I was not impressed. I agree with most of DMS description of the sound quality of the X2, especially the recessed mids, which sound very veiled and vocals are distant taking a back seat. Also not a very detailed or resolving headphone and very warm signature overall. This is coming from someone who owns both the SHP 9500 and 58X Jubilees (58X is my daily driver). This is just my 2 cents, because I hear people even in this comment section who absolutely love the X2's and I am wondering if we are hearing the same thing or maybe the drivers in the X2 have some QC issues with some coming out phenomenal or bad. Anyone looking into the X2 should keep this in mind as it seems to be a very polarizing headphone which leaves me feeling the X2 has a QC issue.

[@HOTSPEEDMike]

58X are super overhyped and nothing special compared to X2HR. The only aspect they outclass X2HR is gaming. No reccessed mids or muted vocals in my Philips unit.

[@valendis]

I did exactly the same, read all the good reviews! Owning a Fidelio L1 I thought this would be L1 with more bass. To say I was disapointed is not enough, I felt betrayed as I thought philips would keep som kind of signature sound...

[@ericouicestmoimeme]

Strange... I have the Fidelio X2HR (no Gibson) ant they are fantastic. Their soundstage is incredible, much more precise than on my Hifiman HE4XX, my DT 770 Pro and my DT 990 Pro. I really like my Hifiman HE4XX for its neutrality but the Fidelio give chills.

[@HOTSPEEDMike]

@Éric de Berranger Same thing also new X2HR owner here :) Dunno maybe Philips changed tunning a bit in the latest batches?

[@ericouicestmoimeme]

@@HOTSPEEDMike The X2 > Gibson who have problems of QC. The X2HR > slightly different pads, Different manufacturer (I don't remember his name) with more more QC...

[@tareqhaider6327]

Is this Woox or Gibson? I own Woox & they don not distort like you mentioned.However bass is not as clear as Planers if that what you mean.

[@TTDaily]

Tareq Haider This

[@taiefmiah]

Tareq Haider i have woox. the treble has always been grainy with Philips. it's the complaint people have always had with them

[@tareqhaider6327]

Compared to 600s they are grainy.But I did no find any kind of distortions.Plus the sound-stage is the widest I heard,much wider than 598.Plus they have very good vocal clarity. I think DMS3 have the notorious Gibson model.

[@xXCrazyxNoobxX]

Drivers are the same on Woox and Gibson.

[@tareqhaider6327]

Even different materials in ear-pads can change sound of certain HPs.I do not own a Gibson,so can not comment on the actual difference.

[@Shekina-0]

I come from earplugs with a 20$ max price tag so I guess these headphones will amaze me

[@TheRulzux]

Im happy that this channel is growing at a decent pace, content is dope.

[@priitmolder6475]

I own a pair of the cheapest Philips full cans: SHP2000s. After looking at some of the teardowns of X1 and X2, I can say: Philips utilized same design principles on both products. Both are open back, angled drivers. Both have driver mid domes blocked by a physical plate towards the ears, both bleed through rear sound via fabric coated slit. Only difference being: SPH2000 uses 40mm drivers, X1/X2 uses 50mm drivers. I concour the fidelity is not that great, but the overall performance is. Philips has made a deliberate choice on how to present the audio: as pedestrian as possible. Its designed exactly to those people who want to have a well OVERALL performer, be in games, movies or regular music. In the defense of these cans: the sound stage aka triangulation is great due to angled drivers. This suits movies and gaming, where the mix is filled with V or U (tometo-tomato) shaped sound effects. And when music is concerned, they perform just enough above the cheap ones to justify the cost, but also gets the sweetspot on low quality MP3 tracks.

[@PL-ri3bz]

I think these headphones divide opinion SO much, I think maybe it's the well known QC issues with these. To put into context mine are Gibson made, not glued on pads, around 2 years old (box says just X2 not X2HR) I've had senns 580, 600, 650, 6xx, AKG all of the 7 series, plus beyers 880, 990 and the 1990 and iMHO these X2's are way up there with all of those and for my preference the best cans I've ever owned, I absolutely love them! Soundstage is the WIDE, warm velvety mids, detailed treble and not not harsh either, I honestly think when I see reviews on these that mention all these so called bad things about these they're listening to a completely different set of cans. I can only put that wide difference of opinion down to the QC issues. I guess I got lucky when I bought mine. But having said all that I do think headphone listening is very subjective perhaps more so than any other HI FI genre, our ears are different I suppose? Anyway that's my opinion and I know there are loads of people out there who agree with me about the X2's and also some who don't, this is what makes this such fun!

[@greeliegtdp7998]

Almost entirely spot on. Although, I do think the X2s have excellent bass for OB headphones. I noticed pretty good sub-bass response when compared the the HD650s. While it does make them more "fun" at low listening levels, that cut in the mid/vocal range is far too strong for my tastes. I agree that if one can find them for a lot less $ (I'd say < $160) then they are an excellent buy for gaming or low level listening. I would like to note that they were very comfortable for me. I hardly noticed their extra weight while wearing them. They did a decent job of "disappearing" on my head after sensory adaptation kicked in (which was short in length).

[@mistermatsuda]

Nice review! Question: Are those Purple Hearts in your intro? If so, are you going to review them?

[@IsakKazazic]

watch the video until end

[@mistermatsuda]

Got it

[@Omnificuser]

This review is a farse! No sub bass? while 30hz is at the same db as the mids! And 20hz is not far off. Peaking trebles? Nope, they do do not extend above the mids by one db... Youve been listening to sennheiser crap for too long, you dont even talk about the amazing soundstage on these ot detail levels. I'll give you the 3khz drop, since they were designed that way to not cause resonating treble! Amateur.

[@samplify1017]

this dude is salty AF lmaoo

[@wpwentzell]

No need to be disparaging. I feel this review is a little off the beaten path. I love my X2's, and I love my 650's -- they are two different beasts. The X2's I throw on for bassy music (because they do have sub-bass), and the 650's I put on for classical, and more mid-centric music. And, as you say, I hear no peaky treble (although it is a bit grainy, but not distractingly so)

[@greeliegtdp7998]

I don't see anything about his review that was amateur. I noticed the same things about the X2s. I'm new to upper tier headphones and I spotted those same flaws almost immediately.

[@rich1051414]

Did he get gibsons? Quality control problems abound, and are not the same headphones as you probably know.

[@afrog2666]

And nobody else have said anything about distortion running through the mix..

[@navanski]

I wish I had seen this video before I bought a set of X2HRs. I thought my ears were bad when I compared the sound I was hearing to the many reviews on these things. Finally someone agrees with me that these are not that great. The build quality is fine, the comfort levels are fine. The sound however is just too bassy for me. I really can't live with that bass bump and it's for that reason the X2s have been re-packed in their box and will be returned tomorrow. I see that your review is getting some grief from the bassheads out there. Here's one that is on your side.

[@stanisawszczypua9076]

Hey DMS3 TV are those a AKG K240 Monitor on the table? Will you make a video about them any time soon?

[@Sillylemon]

The little "Screws" holding both cups into place are made of plastic and break easily. One of them broke while the headphones were in my backpack. Huge design flaw to be aware of.

[@LuLzezRoflcopter]

Solid review, I've had mine for about 2 years now and as a casual listener, my biggest gripe is the low bass roll off like you talked about. To me I think the soundstage and extra mid bass is awesome for gaming. If these could hit those real low frequencies they've be absolutely perfect for me. It's just hard for me to upgrade because these are so damn close to what I want from headphones for gaming, music, movies Are there headphones that sound similar to these but able to hit those lower frequencies? Idk if it is possible to get all this in one sub 400$ headphone but a headphone with a wide sound stage, open back, V-shape, no bass roll off. My ears aren't great and I can't notice or hear the peaks in the highs you talked about so I guess peaks in highs/mids arn't a problem for me. Though I do have a pair of ath m50's and something about the mid/highs are fatiguing.

[@bstrxn]

sony mdr1a. maybe the mdr 1am2 too but i haven't gotten to test them with good music. They have a similar sound profile but closed back. King of sub bass at that price point. 1am2 has balanced input if you like that too. They seemed slightly less comfortable because they chose harder foam on the 1am2. If you don't care about balanced, i suggest the 1a.

[@Samuell1124]

Is this review applicable to the x2hr as well?

[@pr3t]

You are to salty on this headphones, they are very good for their price. I really like the X2's they are not worse than the HD558 and HD58x that I also own.

[@dhiaoshaish]

i loved them a lot when i bought them and used for a year, i only realized how shitty they are after buying the IE-800s. Their sloppy bass bloats the entire frequency range.

[@Criiies]

I think he got a defective pair.

[@blond_slut]

Im gamer and i use fidelios x2 is there any new headpones you would recomend,with a bit more bass and comfort similar to fidelios DMS?

[@Rajiv4125]

Damn, was on the verge of buying these. But that bass and treble frequency response is crap, 20-60hz performance is v. important. What cans would u recommend v shaped similar to the m50x but with the highs just toned down a little and mids bumped a Lil?

[@RojasTKD7]

Rajiv Bisseru Beyerdynamics DT 770 80ohms edition. I found them less harsh than the M50X and better in the mids/vocals. V shaped but we'll done. Built like tanks but very utilitarian looking, not necessarily pretty. Though I enjoyed the X2. They have a big roll off as measured by innerfidelity, though like To said in his review, I didn't sound as rolled of as they measured to his ear or mine. Yes, I little grainy as I recall. I liked them but of not really looking to replace them. The DT 770 (80 ohms) on the other hand, I just might pick up another pair at some point.

[@Rajiv4125]

RojasTKD7 I would like to use them for gaming/music on my pc so the looks don't really matter. Is there any difference sound wise between the 250 and 80 ohm? I have a magni 2 uber

[@taiefmiah]

Rajiv Bisseru the cascadia audio talos

[@Omnificuser]

Please google the frequency response chart for X2, it does not lack Sub bass at all (sub bass is 20-60hz which it has plenty of) nor peaky trebles.

[@Rajiv4125]

RojasTKD7 pulled the trigger on the dt 770s 80ohms, they are around $180 in South Africa.

[@wpwentzell]

I'm an extremely treble sensitive person, and the X2's do not have any peaky treble that I can hear. Also, I do note sub-bass on my pair. I am beginning to wonder if our models are different, or if you might be more influenced by the graphs, or if burn-in is a factor (generally I feel burn-in is hocus pocus, but hey, I hear something WILDLY different from you here). Also, my hearing is not what it used to be, but I can still hear up to 17kHz, and the only flaw with this headphone that I find is the treble is a little grainy, and the lower treble is a touch absent. Both are not dealbreakers, and are even not even missed in many situations.

[@ezzony]

I think the problem is he forgot to insert the headphone cable into the headphones so basically he was listening to the sound in his surroundings.

[@DMS3TV]

Hehe I think that would've been an improvement. Checkout the measurements for these. It's scary how bad they are.

[@nevuxxx]

Not suitable for professional use but excellent gear for entertainment purposes. Suggesting they arent worth over a 100 is just silly imo. I don't really get the distortion argument. I don't notice it. to me, the bass is perfectly satisfying without causing obvious trouble elsewhere in the spectrum. Perhaps I havent been spoiled by 500+ dollar gear that does bass better?

[@PhonoDirect]

The trap these headphones make many reviewers fall into is that on the paper these look rather power undemanding. That is technically true, and you do can drive them with just any smartphone around, but... then the result is they may sound boomy and grainy. I have had these for 4 years, tried in many headphone amplifiers and also smartphones, including famed Sabre based Quad DAC of LG V series smartphone, V40 in my case. And honestly, I could not agree with your perception at all. What you described here seems to me as a result of falling into the trap I have described before, a mismatch in power source. Especially the missing sub bass in your perception proves it the most. These can play literally a palpable sub bass out of the relatively cheap Fiio E9K or K5 Pro desktop headamp. LG V40 is a bit better in this regard, but its Quad DAC is more suitable for higher impedance headphones. The best combo I have heard them play in was Teac UD-501 - the sub bass, the clarity of the bass register and also the scene and details were just incredible. These are really wonderful headphones for the price provided the user does not underestimate the pairing with an optimal source.

[@stefnauc9675]

True. All reviewers are wrong about bass in general. Or im a basshead idk.

[@BattleshipSailorBB63]

I think whether or not you like X2 is a matter of perspective. All I had heard before X2 was my SHP-9500's, and as a "step up" can, I loved them! They were my daily driver for several months. But once you've heard better headphones and put X2 back on, their flaws become painfully obvious. That being said, they've obviously always been designed and intended as a "fun" headphone, nowhere near Neutral. I also think you listen much louder than I normally do! I have old-person ears, and my normal listening volume is probably less than what 50% of people listen at. Waiting for your next reviews! *applaud*

[@thealterego4684]

I just got the X2s (not the X2HR) on sale for $184. I hear a little grain in the treble (not bad at all) but the rest of sound doesn't match your experience. The vocals do not seem recessed and it doesn't seem to have high distortion although I never blast the volume too high. Also, the bass isn't overdone on my X2s (I do NOT like bass cannon headphones--made the mistake of buying Sony MDR XB950BT and regret it). I wonder if your review unit had a quality control issue.

[@Tigerex966]

did you get a bad pair?

[@user-distantstar]

is there any chance that these headphones sounds like Sony XB 700 ? I always wanted headphones with really deep bass but Sony had too much of it, actually there was nothing but bass and i got rid of Sony. Will I be dissapointed with Philips which overloaded with base as well ? I just want to enjoy midds, high too, not only base, however i like base

[@TTDaily]

+DMS3 TV Just trying to offer some insight here. At some point in the life of the X2s, Phillips changed manufacturers. The new manufacturer has had massive quality control issues and sound has been said to divert from the original path. I have the X1 and love them far more than my m560. I find them more accurate and slightly U-shaped when powered by an aune x1s. I got the X1 because Z recommended them and they did not suffer from manufacturing issues. Maybe give them a go? But perhaps you opinion will remain the same so nill.

[@taiefmiah]

Taylor Johnson the sound remains the same. in fact even Gibson reverted to the clip on pads

[@taiefmiah]

Taylor Johnson z just said they were great fun multimedia headphones because of their soundstage and boomy bass.

[@wpwentzell]

I'm not entirely sure about that. I swear, my X2's do not sound ANYTHING like what was just reviewed. I also own the HD650, and have heard several other cans this reviewer has reviewed, and I generally agree with his reviews. So, I'm curious if the sound quality has digressed some.

[@TTDaily]

taief miah My point was that I do not describe my X1s as excessively boomy. I also have m560 by monoprice and still prefer my X1s. This is becoming a comment that strays from the original intent of this video. I cannot be sure of X2 issues or sound quality because I have not owned a pair. I would just like to offer up the X1 as an alternative. To me they perform outstandingly. But sound is subjective so my point is Nill.

[@chia-haochou8102]

I wonder why the measured frequency response, from a machine, does not agree with what this guy said. Which should I trust

[@ZeBubba]

That's pretty much what I found in my review. That uneven treble is my biggest gripe. Cool review.

[@rabbit3586]

Please help me +DMS3 TV , I need help! Should i go for these, or the DT 990 Pro 250 Ohms? I love listening to music such as Tristam, Drum and bass like Stan Sb or fox stevenson, I'm scared these will sound muddy compared to the beyers, please help

[@pasta8793]

keep in mind this guy is a beyer 880 fan. super sibilant with not much bass. this guy would HATE studio monitor loudspeakers probably hates going to movie theaters lmao

[@DMS3TV]

Considering I’ve worked in studios for years... I definitely prefer high-detail reference sound over bass canons...

[@garyluciani370]

@@DMS3TV I am disregarding " pasta"s comment, It's cheap, low brow commentary. I think someone who likes studio detailed sound would not like the fidelio's at all. Anyone who really likes the dt 880, and there are many people who do, would not like the FIDELIO either. The bass is definitely not audiophile bass. I own the lcd2c. That's closer to audiophile bass. The only distortion I ever hear in the bass is more like even harmonic distortion, if I crank them. It does give a bass overhang effect where the bass sounds, I guess I could say, tubby or bloated. Most of the time it just sounds a little overdone and slightly loose compared to most open backs in this league., but that's why they're fun. The treble is uneven, not the best. I think the main culprit in the treble is the 5khz. Peak. Having said all that the x2 is one of my personal top 3 headphones of the ones that I own, along with the hd6xx and audeze lcd2c. I also own the Senn. hd 598, philips shp 9500 and Beyer dt 990 ( 600 Ohm version.) and a couple of others. Enjoy your reviews, nonetheless.

[@kramsniggah4333]

I took a punt on the Fidelio X2HD and they arrived on Sunday afternoon. Out of the box they sounded as bad as the Audio Technica ATH-M50X, woolly, muddy and basically crap. I left the X2HD's to cook overnight playing some drum and bass to soften them up a bit ready for the next day, I'm glad I did as I was going to return them! After a few miles on them the bass, although still a bit thick now has more texture, the flat mid/upper mid has opened up and the slightly tizzy top end has mellowed. I don't hear any real air or soundstage but they're pretty good otherwise, vocals are a heap better. I've not come across anything that images like my AKG K550 mkii yet but they are totally different to the X2HD's in presentation but still very enjoyable. I simply hated the Technica ATH-M50X, how on earth they could be classed for monitoring is either deaf or likes listening to a turgid swamp of wallowng bass and little else. Can amps are Fiio EK09 and/or E17K, Little Dot iii, focusrite 8i6, Topping A30.

[@ericouicestmoimeme]

I did the same. Out of their box I almost sent them back too. After a night of music I found them transformed. And, day after day, sound is better. What impresses me most about these headphones is its incredible sound stage. Far beyond all my other headphones.

[@criss3198]

Why when I listen to music or KZbin it automatically enters my phone's address book once every 2..3 minutes?? My phone is Huawei p30 pro😮😢😢

[@buonassi]

your ears are spot on. had high hopes but noticed the distortion as well. def v shape going on man. you call it like it is. PS I still own them for fun..... like them for very low volume office listening. do the 650s have sub bass? never heard them.

[@WiseGuy508]

Measurements show that the 650s don't exactly have planar level sub-bass... So no, not really...

[@Omnificuser]

They dont have that.

[@wpwentzell]

650's have no sub bass whatsoever. X2's beat them hands down for sub bass.

[@MattBaker95]

if you can hear distortion then you have superb sensitiv ears or defective pair. Because I have relatively good ears. Heard dozens of headphones and these have no audible distortion what so ever. Little grainy upper highs. But I think the distortion you are refering to can be caused by bad recording quality cause x2 are extremly sensitive to recording quality (much more than any of same priced cans)

[@DavidTheCatMedia]

I can see an AKG K240 in that pile there. I pimp this combination every chance I get-- try it with dt770 pads. The K240 is not a good sounding headphone, exactly, but with that padmod it's the most comfortable I've ever worn. Fucking amazing for TV and stuff like that.

[@tonglapyin]

Totally agree what you say about the sound and this can is only for fun.

[@ChrisBessy]

I have m40x and hd600 in my home studio ...... the fidelio X2 can be better ?

[@DMS3TV]

Skip the X2 it’s not that good, the m40X and HD600 are much better. If you want another reference pair to use check out the HD560S (it’s damn near flat)

[@jakubthurlow6757]

What are those custom Grados in the background?

[@budgetking2591]

hmmm buy this or pay my rent, still cant decide.

[@4epa1012]

Hahaha

[@budgetking2591]

@@4epa1012 i bought the headphone im still homeless but its worth it

[@stalinshishkebab]

@@budgetking2591 So how do you like it? (The headphones, that is. Not being homeless.)

[@DaGoodLooking1]

Dang I was planning on getting these. Thanks for the review man.

[@wpwentzell]

Take it with a HUGE grain of salt. I own, and love, the X2's. Sometimes, I wonder if some reviewers just get a terrible pair, because I hear no distortion, or sharp peaks. This is coming from a guy who also owns the HD650, and I can surely tell you, they're more similar than different.

[@DaGoodLooking1]

W. P. Wentzell I'm going to give it a shot, thanks. I'll update when I get em.

[@robinjobidon]

@@DaGoodLooking1 wow, you should call for the shipping. i think they lost it.. its been 2 yearssss!

[@buried4430]

@@DaGoodLooking1 how are they?

[@marmiko]

I definately agree with your review about these! I got these cause of the many good reviews. But I prefer my HD650. Like you said, they have WAY too much midbass and the peak in the treble is too much. They probably have subbass but that gets lost in the dominant midbass. Somewhere I read they sounded like they have room modes built in. A fitting description :) They are very far from neutral, but I guess that why peoples opinion about these differs so much. But somehow I can't believe someone "tuned" it like that on purpose. Lately I did a lot of comparison between the HD650, the Beyerdynamic T1 and the Fidelio X2. The X2s are not bad, but i prefer the other two. And for me the HD650 is the best "allround headphone" of the three For me neither electronic music, jazz nor classical music sounds better on the X2. I sometimes prefer them with rock and metal though.

[@totinospizzarolls4737]

That intro SO MANY HEADPHONES ◎⃝_◎⃝

[@stefanhansen7353]

Can I use the Philips Fidelio x2 with Xbox One by pluggin it to the Xbox One controller?

[@nix4o493]

What would you guys recommend for a V-shaped pair of cans, that's open back, and doesn't need much amplification since I only use an audio interface for my audio connection.

[@wpwentzell]

Fidelio X2 ;) (Very seriously though, they meet your requirements, and sound good)

[@motap001]

Your not the only one that has negative review ever since Gibson took over. The built quality has become a issue just like Monoprice's 1060.

[@taiefmiah]

Peter Mota the sound quality remained the same. Gibson also reverted to the clip on pads

[@motap001]

Glad you cleared that up. Thxs

[@SamualWilliams]

Will we see a K712 Pro review?

[@samyoo1678]

really loved the soundstage and quantity of bass for an opened back cans but I couldn't just do with the messy treble. Had to let them go.

[@Tigerex966]

please review the Fidelio L2. thanks.

[@vinylseeker867]

After 1year of use (very rear use) the black painting on the side started to disappear..That about a built quality..Other than that for the prize of 250€ is ok headphone.. But from an audiophile side i think you should go to higher price range headphones..I,m using Focal Elear now and they are way better in every aspect..

[@kionmahuermicio9860]

I dislike the video until i buy them, now i believe in you, bro...

[@IcyFlame0]

What if you're not using these for high fidelity and you're using them for enjoyment? How are they?

[@DMS3TV]

Not really enjoyable for me

[@IcyFlame0]

Interesting. What kind of sound signature do you prefer? Or rather, do you prefer a lot of bass, a lot of mids, or a lot of treble? Or do you prefer something else like a neutral signature?

[@taiefmiah]

nathaniel palmer this doesn't have much sub bass for enjoyment. it's only midbass. the graininess is less of an issue in say gaming

[@deankumar]

I just ordered these. I hope Gibson have sorted their quality control issues out otherwise I won't be happy

[@jerbienmanawatao3879]

how does this compare to the dt900?

[@Gofrette]

Hi! First of all, great review. I just discovered your channel and surely will keep looking at your reviews =). I have the exact same opinion on the X2: the bump on the 55 to 100hz just sounded off to me. And as you said, there were not a good amount of real low end. I ended up keeping my DT990Pro (250ohms) over the X2s. Even though the mediums were handled a bit better by the X2s and the trebles can be a bit harsh on the DT 990 Pro, the Beyerdynamics still has a way better aeration/soundstage and low end (mine go as low as 25-30hz without loosing too many decibels). Now I'm waiting to be able to afford the DT1990Pros! Are you planning to review them btw? Keep up the good work man, cheers from France!

[@Junior-rw3jm]

X2HR’s?

[@kylemueller]

Do a comparison video between Sennheiser HD 598 cs and AKG K550!

[@davidmason8212]

It's new for 150 usd You can easily pick akg k712 for about 200 usd new and it's better than the x2 by 100 time

[@posypicker]

the comments section is very conflicted so I'd like to remind everyone of the manufacturer change around early 2016 I think. Phillips started having these headphones manufactured by Gibson. when these first came out they were highly praised by many reviewers. After the change they've dropped significantly in quality

[@Thomy159]

X2 or DT770 80 Ohm?

[@Gadgetibles]

Do I require a dac or dap to get hi res sound from this headphones or I can just pair this with my Samsung galaxy S10 and still get hi res sound ?”

[@DMS3TV]

This headphone is not “high res”. The little sticker doesn’t mean anything.

[@gamerfreak5665]

I'm glad you're being honest about these, seems they are like most popular headphones around that price range, too much peaky treble and midrange issues. Too many reviewers get excited about a new headphone and say they are perfect without being critical about the sound. I really like your review style. I hope to see this channel grow fast! (Also very much looking forward to that HD650/6XX/600/580 comparison!)

[@claudiecotet7927]

gamerfreak5665 so much hype all over yt. and people are fed by mcDo and KFC. what can you expect? the truth died 2000 ys ago. nailed on a cross

[@wpwentzell]

k

[@Testo_]

Quin disliked the video. Grab the pitchforks fam

[@B0Sajwah]

How do you power them

[@musicxxa6678]

Bought them for 100€. Price drop was tempting. I actually want DT 1990 but they are 440€. I'll return these and save up for DT 1990 if i dont like them.