Episode

[@go_offurself8748]

It’s a worthwhile effort to make the world a better place. It’s hard but worthwhile

[@klosnj11]

The idea that differemt moral systems just existed as different ways of thinking about problems well before being defined and quantified by philosophers reminds me a lot of the work of Johnathan Haidt on the Social Psychological theory of Moral Foundations. The idea that people have different primary values that inform what they see as "right" regardless of the justification really opened up my mind to the idea that there isn't just one universal moral system (not to say that it is all 100% subjective and morality doesnt exist).

[@robertwilson-lq1lr]

The whole idea of " Making the world a better place" needs a debate. We would be lucky to hold on to what we got. That's the fight.

[@saeeddargahi4750]

hey stephen I love ur podcast man,❤❤much love from Iran❤❤

[@amAntidisestablishmentarianist]

Persian too

[@شهریار-ز2ج]

Dear Stephen, I love your podcast and I am a longtime follower 😊 I love to hear your (personal) thoughts about capitalism. Thanks for a great podcast and all the best wishes.

[@danielc6106]

I love the idea of a ripped Noam Chomsky. Great podcast. Thanks.

[@wasimshaikh1665]

Used to listen you on Spotify didn't know you were on KZbin too. Great 👍

[@michaelnelson2976]

Yes yes, absolutley so interersted in the Kyoto school of mysticism. (From episode #215)

[@daltongrowley5280]

Pedagogy of the Oppressed! That's exciting. That and Nel Noddings: Ethics of Care have greatly informed my world view, especially where education is concerned.

[@klosnj11]

Pedagogy of the Oppressed, from what I have heard, was very influential at shaping modern education and the prevalence of "critical pedagogy". On a related topic, I am a huge supporter of home schooling, and am gladto have a greater educational influence on my children than the government school system.

[@fannieschannel5451]

@@klosnj11I too homeschooled all the way through. Now in their mid-30s, they aren’t”weird” as media portrays them. They do show traits I’m proud of: more open to friends of opposite sex and various ages as well as not having prejudices.

[@ericjackson-nq4hp]

_La Vita Nuova_ We know what we know, you know? --Chan Marshall, aka Cat Power. I dunno, sister Cat flew over the Atlantic here recently. Gravitas, West. My intuition is rarely wrong. You are a great man. I knew it. It's all bound up in the unconscious use of language. The world of Decision Theory is noneofmybusiness. I am in the midst of reading an epic, Reymont's _The Peasants_ It was awarded the 1924 Nobel Prize for Literature. That makes me a very fortunate man. A Polish girl animates the man. Fair like Beatrice was fair. I owe you a great deal, West. We have been through a lot. You never leave me wanting. I appreciate that a great deal. I do deal in books part time. Freire is iconic but the praxis was high risk back in the day. West; my gratitude, my appreciation and my affection-- be well my friend. _Incipit vita nova_

[@milhouse53]

So what i hear in Singer's argument is that political discourse should center around capitalist style production but socialist style distribution. Almoust, like Daddy works, and Mommy uses the money to feed the family. All we need (and here i express the doubt) is to find such balance where superordinate goals AND motivation would exist to not only share the power or decision making but make sure this social system exists worldwide AND immediately at the same time. Because if continuing with a family analogy, in a family such division of family roles must be recognized not only internally by societally..otherwise it collapses

[@enriquenavarro1471]

I will focus on spreading philosophy and activism. I propose a twofold approach: 1) SYNC WITH YOUR AUDIENCE. You could branch out from The Art of war if you are talking to a crowd of military officer or crime bosses. From Nietzsche and the ubermensch if you are with a college crowd. From Game Theory with negotiators and politicians. First you have to know your audience. 2) You CANNOT sync with the BROAD society. Decentralize the message and NETWORK. Teach your audience to become an activist themselves. It will be much easier if they relate their own lives to the message. You may never see how and what gets transmitted to Sadio who is worried about staying afloat in Senegal, but maybe that is how the process has to run Its path

[@spankytag]

Thanks for the upload! Good episode despite the praise of effective altruism.

[@RobotProctor]

I would have preferred to hear the dialogue rather than your summary of it. With that said, i did listen to the whole thing so what do i know?

[@emmanuelmerryfield3253]

I agree. I was excited for an interview and kinda bummed when it wasn't there

[@itsrealnikhilkrr]

Hey Stephen, I am unable to get your episodes on KZbin Music. Especially after #Episode 205. Kindly relook into it what's the problem.

[@Poisonfrogg]

Have you done an episode on Ronald Dworkin? Rights as Trumps is probably the greatest thing I have read on Utilitarianism.

[@BotlheMolelekwa-ju2se]

Problem with spreading awareness and getting people to practice those ideas is of course how you deliver the information but most importantly is the people receiving that information don't have good critical thinking skills to see if your claims are sound arguments. You make them aware and then they make conclusions based on wrong logic and do something else or bring biases with them and such. And they refuse to let go of such things because they see such as part of who they are and if they aren't themselves if they did or something. From my side I don't have people whom I can have arguments were both parties want to listen and improve each other's critical thinking skills and more about who won the argument and stupid. Even now I have ideas but don't have anyone I can tell to correct me if I'm wrong or not. And I'm not the person who would ask for help. More of "die in silence than bother anyone with my stuff". Just writing this is already bad enough. But at the same time I want to know if what I know is true and want to help the world for the better. Shoot now am rumbling and stuff

[@dawidwraga]

Excellent podcast

[@TennesseeJed]

I have my Žižek/Bartleby shirt on today!

[@TennesseeJed]

Capitalism is not responsible for the rise in living standards. The discovery of hydrocarbon energy (millions of years of stored sunlight) is. Without energy we don't have technology, nor a huge population aka Homo-Colossus.

[@jcsto]

Awesome podcast!!

[@YoungClemenzaR]

thank you

[@MCIVITASM]

Let's gooo!

[@stevesmith4901]

Can anyone share what they took away from this episode? I didn't get much from it, other than the idea that one should make an effort to do good. But most of us already know that.

[@gike2755]

Halfway through. My takeaway is essentially that these are descriptive terms not theories with predictive powers claiming to be the fundamental basis of reality, like say string theory or relativity. Instead, it is more helpful to try to solve real situations/problems and come up with actions that can make a difference. The moral theoretic position you're taking is more of a description not a prescription, they are tools that could be adapted to help solve different kinds of problems.

[@jelly92]

Take a look at what the podcast aims to achieve. Much of Stephen West’s content is not what we’re used to engaging with on the internet because he is not presenting ideas with a “should/ought” attached. He is merely presenting ideas and the people who wrote about them. It’s very much a simple description of events and ideas that may challenge your view but that challenge is merely based in the fact that the ideas are new to you.

[@annikabzam1397]

Can you do an episode on Fichte? That would be amazing!

[@milhouse53]

Also...can anyone suggest a better way to reach this "lets ll sit down and think and get people to queation things and offer middle ground solutions..." without teaching kids Philosophy Logic Critical Thinking at schools K-12 as separate subjects? How are we to prepare society for conversation? Thru CNN and FOX?? :)

[@TheSwankyLifestyle]

Do you or did you also have an art channel?

[@johnmatthews8639]

First Rate Work

[@rainbowkrampus]

We already have Swole Chomsky and people in that vein. It's political streamers. Hasan Piker is a big burly dude who talks about anti-capitalism stuff in a way that stays on top of culture and interacts with people in an engaging way. There are tons of other people doing similar work. Problem is, as pointed out, engaging with this stuff requires an interest and openness to thinking about this stuff in the first place. Which in turn requires a basic education in political and moral philosophy. It's much easier for the grifters and charlatans, your Andrew Tates and Jordan Petersons, to get their hooks in people because what they offer is facile, easy to grasp for any rube off the street. So I'd have to agree with the follow on discussion about teaching these things at a much younger age. Though really, I'd say that teaching basic logic and rhetoric would be the true starting place. Moral philosophy is kinda hard to work through if you lack those things. In my ideal 'Education Dictator for a Day' scenario, logic and rhetoric would be taught very early and would be integrated into every subject advancing right the way through to university. Uttering a logical fallacy should engender a deep sense of shame in a person, not belligerence and doubling down on the invalid point. You're not going to get anywhere until that is the case for most people. Better education for more people yesterday is the solution to a lot of problems long term. Which is why we see so much effort to dismantle education.

[@fancypotato2188]

"...stays on top of culture and interacts with people in an engaging way." I just don't believe this and he's terrible example. He's exactly the person who uses his disdain for capitalism to do nothing. Hasan's all aesthetics - no substance or specificity similar to Jordan Peterson. There's no way he's anywhere near at the level of deconstruction or critique of capitalism you get from the people spoken about in the Philosophize this podcast or from people like Chomsky.

[@rainbowkrampus]

@@fancypotato2188 "There's no way he's anywhere near at the level ..." You're making a critical mistake. This is not a discussion about who is the best philosopher. People, for the most part, do not engage with Byung-Chul Han or any of these "high level" philosophers. It does not matter if Simone de Beauvoir has useful ideas if most people will never hear them. What is required for someone to fill the role discussed is for them to be able to draw the attention of a large crowd. I'm not a particular fan of Hasan. Frankly, I think he's as you say, a do nothing contrarian . At times, at any rate. But, he has a large audience which enables him to advocate for better thinkers than himself. To get his large audience to potentially engage with those thinkers on their own. To instill curiosity and a desire to know more is the greatest thing an advocate for any philosophy can do. Ya don't gotta like him. But you should at least appreciate his role in the ideosphere. The fact that there are not more, better versions of him with larger audiences should tell you something about where the broader public is at, in terms of the accessibility and acceptability of this kind of material.

[@christinemartin63]

Heads up: Capitalism will never ever die. Live with it ... and learn to love it. (There's much to love--not like!--love.)

[@coreyrachar9694]

I farted... Philosophize that!

[@baronbullshyster2996]

Nietzsche said God is dead. It must of been your fart that killed him.

[@Satans_lil_helper]

🖖🏾

[@renzo6490]

Liberal,democratic and capitalist are not synonymous.

[@diegoaguirre1925]

hell yeah

[@geronimo8159]

When will Chomsky finally bulk up? We need roid-rage-Noam!!

[@peterz53]

So, why is capitalism given credit for a lot of what science and technology has given us.

[@jelly92]

First I would ask “who is giving credit to capitalism?” Is it Pro-Capitalists? Is it a leader of an industry focused in tech or medicine? It’s true profit incentive has driven innovation in many fields but I would say there is no clear evidence innovation is solely based on the market and profit incentive. I would also say the question posed above is a little too open ended and possesses a clear bias.

[@cbysmith]

Because it organizes efforts according profit motive which exists across all peoples. Basic feature of people used to create amazing things.

[@cbysmith]

Gain and loss, huge.

[@baronbullshyster2996]

Capitalism is like evolution. Survival of the fittest makes the next iteration better. That’s what my neighbour tells me. But he uses weed killer on his garden and is involved in weed genocide. Any one in my book with a nice garden is a nazi. He’s outside pulling weeds up at the moment and cutting heads off flowers to stop them going to seed. Basically killing their babies. I must get one of those clip boards.

[@pattyofurniture]

​@@cbysmithprofit motive prevents advancement and pollutes our air, water and food for no good reason.