Philosophy is Useless

#shorts #philosophy #camus #philosophical

[@mtw777]

Yo just used the most classic philosophical method. This is the way Socrates would get points out of people to show them what they truly believe by their own logic

[@verae3640]

it’s called the elenchus

[@coreyleander7911]

“the most classical philosophical method” lol

[@dreamawake2670]

Bingo

[@chocolateneko9912]

Socratic method still works!

[@EstanislaoSantino-xk8uz]

​@@coreyleander7911wdym

[@elias6126]

bro socratesed him

[@daltonc.5720]

Socratesed 🤣. If you don’t mind, I’m using this as part of my vocabulary

[@belle_pomme]

This word should've been added to the Oxford dictionary.

[@Q-hv2cb]

bro pedophiled him?

[@Janssu]

Wait is that the right term? Im confused right now....

[@MrUbikkk]

How? He hasn't managed to make him realize what is the essence of philosophy, as psychology would be enough to tell somebody they are wrong or being hypocritical. The real question was about the usefulness of philosophy, not the behavior of the critic. Maybe one could ask rather, in the true spirit of Socratic irony, what is the definition of usefulness, and why it would be an overarching principle instead of many others, such as piety, beauty or justice.

[@alexanderzhmurov9624]

*_NEVER_* argue with a philosopher... *_ESPECIALLY_* not about philosophy itself 😅

[@warlock0true]

because you will waste even more time - than the philosophers usually do, so just let them do the wasting and dont invest any interest in it. done.

[@marcospina162]

@@warlock0true Avoiding philosophy would be wasting our potential instead.

[@NAME-sl2ms]

​​@@marcospina162Learning philosophy is useless. It's something that must come to your mind naturally... Also you can't understand something if you haven't seen it... I'm more interested in psychology than to ponder about something that's superficial..

[@irrelevantwhitekid3856]

⁠​⁠@@NAME-sl2msThe best philosophers learned philosophy from other people what do you mean?

[@NAME-sl2ms]

@@irrelevantwhitekid3856 for me, philosophy is like a vague mathematical formula... but for you to follow with it... you must understand the basics and have some real experience on its groundwork...

[@Mark73]

If you want a practical use for philosophy, here you go. Philosophy teaches us about the different kinds of questions we can ask. And while in philosophy there are no solid answers, we can take the skills we learn in philosophy and apply them to other fields where there _are_ solid answers and ask better questions.

[@countryboyred]

You can ask different kinds of questions with 0 knowledge of philosophy

[@certified0093]

@@countryboyred you can ask more thought provoking questions and see further into the future with philosophical knowledge and developed critical thought.

[@countryboyred]

@@certified0093 developed critical thought doesn’t require knowledge of philosophy

[@certified0093]

@randyorlando67 i have yet to see much legitimate critical thought from someone who hasn't achieved at least some level of philosophical self reflection. most people simply believe what they believe and then rationalize it after the fact rather than constructing their beliefs from the ground up based on any rationale, let alone change their mind when shown conflicting information. it's quite ironic, but the field of philosophy is full of people who don't have any genuine autonomy or understand anything about it. plenty of folk who just want to stroke their ego. I don't view philosophy as a school of thought to be studied professionally. it is, nonetheless, a skill that can help a person develop individuality, charisma, and further their understanding of themself and those around them, especially when paired with psychology.

[@Mark73]

@@countryboyred Critical thinking is _part_ of philosophy.

[@sohammitra1951]

Philosophy is extremely important for me, people around me have gone machine like,narrow minded, no objectivism or neutrality. We all need to ask ourselves that "why are we doing what we do.."

[@lsilverblade5475]

Or a passive aggressive philosopher will say: why do you think life has to have meaning

[@Goldenscissors306]

No matter what you say it’s philosophical 🎉

[@donotreply8979]

It still doesn't pay any bills

[@davidzimmerman5359]

​@@donotreply8979😂😂😂

[@mahfoudseraf5995]

​@donotreply8979 that's pretty philosophical

[@stanloonaur69]

​@donotreply8979 so you believe any skill that can't be exploited for money, doesn't hold value?

[@hidum5779]

@@stanloonaur69 Yep 🤷‍♂ Or more like, if a thing holds value, it automatically helps you in making money.

[@feezer3017]

Philosophy is NOT useless. It just doesn't solve any problems. However, thought is obviously the first step toward change.

[@sohammitra1951]

It does

[@troll707]

So this is why Socrates got executed. How annoying

[@jasam381]

My man just wanted to spread some wisdom and got poisoned. One of the biggest L for humanity ever.

[@michaelmicek]

​@@jasam381arguably his death was as important as his life. Jesus was a bigger "L" but with an even bigger impact.

[@yamizakygo5869]

before i study philosophy i thought it was useless, after i studied it i was wondering how can someone live without it, the more i studied it the more i realized it was indeed useless.

[@gigachad_100]

Lol wdym😂

[@yamizakygo5869]

@@gigachad_100 the more you study the more you realize there isnt one concept to describe life. life is a set of changing variables and reactions and meaning is very subjective so philosophy is just a waste of time since it simply doesnt work/too subjective.

[@duewest1987]

Just because life is complicated doesn't mean there aren't better and worse ways to navigate it. Thinking about that is never a waste of time.

[@yamizakygo5869]

@@duewest1987 there are better ways and those ways aren't philosophy.. I'll take physics psychology and neurolobiology instead. if i feel depressed or like my life is meaningless or anything I'd now it has nothing to do with my vision on life but the chemical balance in my brain and that's how i figure out the solution because whatever conclusion i got into to form a philosophical concept in fact doesn't stick around for too long before i realize something else.

[@duewest1987]

@@yamizakygo5869 Many key concepts in psychology are rooted in philosophy of mind. Mindfulness has been in the Eastern Zen traditions for centuries. Ask yourself, why do doctors take the Hippocratic oath? Why do sciences have ethics boards and committees? Because ethics are integral to keeping science in check. Why do we have a justice and legal system? Because justice is a philosophical concept. Why do we live in a democracy and not a dictatorship? Because our governments, our social institutions, our interpersonal relationships, our relationships with ourselves - all have philosophical foundations. Science only tells us *how* to do something, philosophy tells us *why* we should do it in the first place. There are better and worse ways to structure society, to practice medicine, science, politics, law, to be a friend, a partner, a person. That is the point of philosophy. "The unexamined life is not worth living."

[@TheEternalOuroboros]

Sometimes I question whether my decision to be a philosopher was worth it, but videos like these restore my doubts ... cheers.

[@urmomgay0166]

it must be nice working at a mcdonalds register

[@TheEternalOuroboros]

Common misconception :) @@urmomgay0166

[@coreyleander7911]

Lol

[@jupitereuropa-e3w]

Philosophers are their owen most critics.

[@jamaar_gobaat]

Philosophy is what separates us from animals.

[@phastinemoon]

“It’s not like math or science…” Hoo boy, nobody tell him where we got math and science FROM.

[@shade7283]

All Philosophy is already answered. No one simply knows where to look.

[@AT-9777]

Kind of like mathematics

[@wtz_under]

@@AT-9777interesting thought, also like physics

[@AT-9777]

@@wtz_under True

[@SMMore-bf4yi]

What you mean maths, you can’t be serious, another short asked “ if 3 hours to dry 3 towels on the clothesline then how many hours to dry 9 towels… asked some older kids who say 9 hrs 😹🙀 … all need to go back to hanging out a line full of towel babies nappies, called reality check… rather than meaningless pursuit of wracking up likes 🤙 Philosophy is the measurement of true state of boredom

[@rat_king-]

Nietzche... actually said this, Doing is better

[@criztu]

he took it from the bible: faih without works is dead. faith in Christianity is truth acquired by reason. eg. the spiritual man judges all things

[@mlg1337professional]

Logic is a part of philosophy, without it maths would be impossible.

[@cswfan14]

The best discussions always occur in your imagination. It's great that you then have the perfect points ready to throw at a weakened, imaginary opponent, giving you satisfaction of having beaten yourself. Now all that's left to do is film yourself reenacting it and post it to KZbin shorts where like-minded people can share in the power fantasy

[@Jacklawro]

I guess by commenting you have a humiliation kink

[@cswfan14]

@@Jacklawro assuming i identify with either of the personages in your play

[@pinchebruha405]

Heeeeeeee heeeeeee heeeeeeeeee, realizing how important it is….every company needs a historian, a philosopher and a sociologist!

[@Laceh1]

This video is honestly great, you explained it very well

[@jax345-]

Philosophy is the bedrock of human thinking.

[@Y4roslavV]

Tbf philosophy has no ground to stand on with an atheist worldview, also existentialism is gay

[@zoviqi2388]

How come? There's many atheist philosophers and philosophies.

[@Y4roslavV]

@@zoviqi2388 so? They have no basis for their morality and they cant justify their worldview

[@rippedgoat3587]

@@zoviqi2388yes there are but they have no epistemic justification for the use of philosophy

[@duewest1987]

​@@rippedgoat3587You're talking about theology, not philosophy

[@rippedgoat3587]

@@duewest1987 hows that

[@samanthastudios618]

Love this video. Didn’t know where it was going. The classic arts are not dead

[@Ayoubito_stito]

Philosophy makes life happier sadder Philosophy changes everything in life

[@WisdomisPower-10inminute-dn5no]

Your philosophical insights are like a breath of fresh air in the chaos of the internet. 🌬️

[@timbuktu8069]

"The chances of finding out what's actually going on are so absurdly remote that the only thing to do is say hang the sense of it and keep yourself busy. I'd much rather be happy than right any day." -Slartibartfast

[@codygillard]

When someone says to me "Philosophy is useless" all I hear is "I'm a person not worth talking to"

[@coreyleander7911]

Philosophy is useless.

[@LeaderFluffPro]

Alright but the point is that what you learn in philosophy (at the very least the things im learning) is not, in fact, how to think, how to argue, how to do any of these things. Instead, we learn facts, we memorize, then forget. So while the subject itself is perhaps not useless, the way in which you learn about it most definitely is (for me at the very least)

[@teuntromp2717]

That probably has more to do with how the school system works (I assume that you are in high school) than with the discipline of philosophy itself

[@LeaderFluffPro]

@@teuntromp2717 No, I am studying at uni, so a lot of it is nowadays based on my own control over how I learn and I fully realize that. However, when I first started taking philosophy courses I was very motivated and extremely excited. This quickly changed when I started going to lectures, only to find my motivation quickly dissipating due to lackluster professors who really did nothing except recite facts in monotonous tones. The specific courses I go to, and the people in charge of them make it extremely difficult to do anything except sigh over another assignment with unclear instructions.

[@aron976]

For me, philosophy is more into "theory" about how you see nature in everything. What made people mad? How beautiful is our nature as human beings? But that is just from me who studies philosophy from video, experience, movie, story, etc. I think that what makes philosophy interesting

[@plantae420]

I think philosophy is the most interesting when you argue about it.

[@justindenlinger6304]

Yeah learning philosophy in a classroom as a bunch of facts to remember is rather bland. True philosophy is meant to be something developed through countless conversations where you practice expressing and evaluating ideas, learning the beauty of well articulated concepts and the joy of roasting lame ones. It’s like sex ed versus sex.

[@KO-771]

Great message. Smooth content.

[@ccboy3960]

As someone who always struggles to find the answer behind studying philosophy and liking it… thank you 🙏🏾 😅

[@popeJohnthetwelth]

When everything is a waste of time, nothing is a waste of time.😀

[@yamizakygo5869]

@@popeJohnthetwelth an ass comment

[@yanroadtrip]

Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated. Confucius

[@WilsonSunarto]

This is gold 😂💯

[@arete7884]

Spiritual insight is more important because one cannot think himself beyond level of thought , while passing to a higher treshold of awareness ones philosophy might change to reflect the insight but u cant think yourself into it. It seems most peoples philosophy reflect where they are at .

[@ramlozz8368]

Philosophy is about to be the most important field in the age of AI

[@Dhavroch]

Sometimes I feel like I’m wasting my time studying philosophy, but this warms my heart.

[@Braidin117]

I think it’s driven me to madness at 23

[@Chase_baker_1996]

Philosophy is the highest music - Plato

[@loudestthought]

this struggle to understand this filled my heart...

[@tobias273]

Philosophie is when thinky think, wow such a great point

[@wodie5529]

That's a nice jazz tune. Can you share the title?

[@kaidiirty6100]

According to John McCumber, philosophy is “unpredictably useful” in the sense that it provides a general background of information to pull from and base new specialized information atop

[@Old299dfk]

In a life that we know is meaningless, and everything and everybody we know will end. Philosophy is the only way to come to terms with it. Our species, and everything we have and will achieve will die for an eternity, only philosophy will allow us to accept it.

[@arete7884]

Well this is why spiritual/mystic insight is more important , thinking cannot think it self beyond thought so you can never realize greater truths and insight that are beyond level of thought

[@countryboyred]

Religion fills that gap just as well as philosophy.

[@YoutubeCommenter1]

No matter how long you study philosophy, you will still die. This is exactly why philosophy dont matter

[@robertsimpson2474]

Philosophers are predicting the future now? How arrogant

[@GuitarGoals]

​@@countryboyred Well yeah it's called theism. A philosophy.

[@somoonjang]

I lack the working memory to understand this conversation in one take

[@redguy2489]

The most I got of philosophy is words are fun things to play with. It changed my life and made it so clear

[@carljuztine3328]

"what the hell is even that"

[@renegroulx7029]

the ending and he's like : Wait , wut ??? This is like an UNO reverse card.

[@servandoherrera7550]

Bro pulled a Socrates😂

[@Joe-pu3qi]

Philosophy is asking good questions, and getting bad contradictory answers

[@abrilherrera9523]

I'm taking notes so i can go all Socrates on the next person that dares to tell me this.

[@jasoncassios7114]

That was really good mate. Spot on.

[@connorboyle2585]

Ive never heard someone say "philosophy is useless" and mean it like "i dont have a philosophy and you shouldnt either" its how you think, everyone has one. What ive heard it meant as, and mostly agree with, is that actually _discussing_ it is ultimately pointless and changes nothing. Understanding you are a pragmatist is as useful as getting a diagnosis for a mental disorder that doesnt require treatment as a fully mature adult. Congrats, you have a more accurate label to identify with now. Your life will now _checks notes_ literally not change at all.

[@colby6512]

Haha cheery fun video for me this morning, been depressed and finally coming out of the hole the past couple days baby! Great, charming and fun video.

[@Outlander69]

I love philosophy

[@christophershore8481]

Philosophy is the uno reverse cards of communication

[@rrkov10]

Philosophy is important since its the root of all knowledge. But I don't like studying it and what I mean is like analyzing philosophical figure or their exact thoughts or could I said "Philosophy Degree in university". I'd like to see its derivatives since it's more applicable.

[@MaxMckayful]

I've long said philosophy has both a PR and a communications problem. It snubbed its nose at layfolk and often is arrogant as hell. At the core though, it is soooooo useful.

[@major5554]

@@MaxMckayfulanyone with a degree can become arrogant

[@Q-hv2cb]

You don't need a philosophy degree if you have the bible

[@arete7884]

If u have a brain , you will realize bible is poor philosophy

[@coreyleander7911]

It’s not the root of all knowledge, or even a lot of it.

[@drizzleamstizzle11]

i use philosophy too to trick people into thinking we agree, which actually oftenly doesnt take much because humans from the ground up are quite similar. our differences only make it interesting

[@JA37Viggen]

I hate it because all it does is put me in limbo where i have no idea of what I actually should think.

[@YHShinVH]

Maybe that's because you don't actually know yourself. You're trying to mold who you are according to the thoughts and ideas of others. To know yourself is to become intimately acquainted with the entirety of your being one step at a time. Once you know yourself, you will know how to think in a way that aligns with your values and your desires. Philosophies that match who you are will stick, and those that do not will be rejected. I would recommend further introspection to your ideas about the world and how they make you feel.

[@JA37Viggen]

@@YHShinVH Yeah. I just gotta give it time, and it'll clear up

[@LightCrasher]

My brother in science, philosophy is the most fundamental sciense there is. It defines meanings upon wich everything else is based, and therefore, where everything else is moving. It, for example, defines, why do we even bother with math, and physics and the rest of the science at all. It creates a paradigm, a goal. The rest of it is just a means to get to it.

[@laughingkid0]

So proud to find this in my feed. Constantly levelling up. 😍❤️

[@theqwertyguy6517]

Think that philosophy is useless is like saying that the looks of Burj Khalifa is very good, but the base of the building has no importance. Tall buildings stand straight because of the base.

[@redcecrossans2189]

Philosophy is useless when we don't practice it

[@Pain544]

But most humans are functioned to just do enough to get money. And never care about development.

[@countryboyred]

Is alchemy useful? Science was built on the back of alchemy.

[@coreyleander7911]

Philosophy isn’t the base of math or science it’s the other way around

[@theqwertyguy6517]

@@coreyleander7911 Doesn't the study of philosophy consist of fundamental questions of logic etc. which are used in math or science?

[@c4call]

What i would like to see is a philosopher who honestly digs into how writing as a form of communication has allowed certain types of philosophies to proliferate to an anwarranted extent, because the nature of writing is as inactive as it is. Yes, i can have the frequent energetic fervor when im writing about some idea i have that i might feel is a paradigm shift for myself. But the very act of writing for others to read, especially if you want the widest audience, has its own inherent bias toward those who are willing to sit for hours and days and weeks, and write or read said writings. The earliest philosophers lived in a more active time, but even so, they generally always lived in the cities. Only later did some philosophers come from or live in or prefer to live in countrysides, but that was after the industrial revolution when even country life (for some) became much less physically demanding. There are few if any philosophies of life today. Never forget that Socrates preferred to talk and didnt write anything down. And during the most active/chaotic times in any region, most leaders (lords, barons, monarchs) didnt find it worth the time to learn to read. Only after obtain a degree of sovereignty and security over their domains did they have themselves or their children taught to read.

[@caiusKeys]

This is the song that never ends...

[@Stormy667]

Bro won his own argument

[@IisLasagna]

Me, 20 years later to myself, trying to convince them that it was fine that I became a Starbucks cashier because of my philosophy major

[@altairwisdom58]

What Good Is calculus to the Man born in poverty

[@vxvnw]

LMAO

[@dantemakoya]

"Congratulations, you played yourself!"

[@Chad-xh8zs]

Mathssssssssssss

[@anthonyhernandez4266]

Yeah there's a lot of redundant shit in philosophy.

[@mikewel1080]

Philosophical reframe 😂

[@themugx]

You literally can’t escape philosophy, philosophy is what you think of everything around you, it makes up your identity and how you view the world.

[@Bookmarkked]

The format of this video ! - I get the message but the creativity is great

[@Schell3092]

Yeah but this doesn't justify absurdly pedantic "philosophical" debates about how many angels fit on the head of a pin or whatever 😪

[@joshuamortimer8839]

That just sounds mathematical 🤔

[@CarapaceClavicle]

Why do you assume debates like these are “absurdly pedantic”?

[@the.kristian.experience4689]

​@@CarapaceClaviclebro fears responding to you, because he knows he will get socrated

[@CarapaceClavicle]

@@the.kristian.experience4689 lol

[@paulster185]

@MoundShroudCreations You don't think so?

[@LorenzoWTartari]

Maths is the worst example, ask any pure mathematician and they'll tell you they aren't driven by practical applications, most pure mathematics is fancy mental gymnastics that happen to be very useful in science, and that doesn't take away from it's beauty

[@AicimounLight]

😂😂😂 I always love this! ❤❤❤ Love you too much

[@BaseSixBasics]

Paradox of self-reference

[@keymot1491]

Anything non-stem, is actually useless

[@mrmoth26]

STEM isn't a real thing. Engineers are essentially monkeys and it's an insult to put them in the same category as pure mathematicians.

[@oentrepreneur]

I don't know man,I think everything is useful in its own way

[@MasonOfLife]

The struggle is not, in fact, enough to fill a man’s heart Love would be the thing that does that in fact 😂 Love of family, friends, pets, nature, romantic, love has many shapes

[@Zack-xz1ph]

This is how I felt about philosophy until I read Meditations, it changed the way I look at the world

[@globalamoeba8910]

Idk if roping someone into debating philosophy or pointing out their philosophy *is their philosophy* really disproves anything. Just shows that philosophy underpins everything, including it’s negation. But philosophy will never be reality, and beside life philosophy, things like metaphysics that functionally only serve to increase the complexity of reality than make it better. Call it pragmatist or don’t. The fact of the matter remains the same.

[@zachbohemian]

to think about ones life is important as something like math or science to society. math and science come from philosophy, and ultimately, people make society so our collective philosophy is our society's view on things

[@globalamoeba8910]

@@zachbohemian sure, that’s why I said beside life philosophy

[@sohammitra1951]

I do think philosophy makes one aware, open minded and understanding at a base level which is ironically getting incredibly low these days.

[@dayo_0X1]

😂 Philosophy is so abstract that people don't see the meaning in it

[@ElijahSchultz-cy1fu]

I once had an argument with someone who told me that metaphysics wasn't real (he seemed to know it only as a buzzword in homeopathy). He didnt take kindly to me observing that this was a metaphysical claim.

[@FasanOluwafemiCastor]

This is pure dialectic at its core

[@RickJaeger]

very cute. One must imagine the meta KZbin Short about Camus looping perfectly.

[@helpfuljump4260]

One teeny tiny little detail off from irl though, people like that would never be able to carry a conversation like that. Ask then wait for an answer, proceed the answer then try to counter argue it. It’s simply too much for some.

[@kanhaibhatt913]

Philosophy is how we make our short time on this spinning rock bearable.

[@AicimounLight]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 he didn't realize that he was doing philosophy just by discussing it!!!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤😅 BEAUTIFUL 😊 You got yourself a love at First look subscriber!! ❤❤❤❤❤

[@SeanAnthony-j7f]

Philosophy is a cultural knowledge inquiry, we evolve from this thinking and inquiry that studying it until now- its a humanity- for a person to choose whatever you're other background field of study.

[@Planeet-Long]

Math is technically just philosophy, it is just thinking about the world in numbers.

[@memesextreme4937]

The bro-code is totally a form of philosophy

[@rabbit4400]

round sunglasses is king! good video as well :P

[@soursam1515]

Philosophy is a great way to find purpose behind doing stuff and means of how to achieve it. Sure you can go to work every day but at some point you’re going ask yourself “why am I doing this?” and “how do I cope with xyz or how do I find the will to achieve xyz” philosophy can answer those questions in meaningful ways. Sure some philosophy is just thinking for thinkings sake like metaphysics but even that is good for developing the actual skill of thinking.

[@ayeshayasir8665]

Without philosophy, and induction and abduction and deduction, you wouldn't have mathematics, the scientific method, the empirical method, you wouldn't have formal logic, prepositional and modal logic, philosophy in a way is what science is predicated upon. Morality is also a derivative of social and moral philosophy, truth claims, would be meaningless, because you could not ground them, objectivism, subjectivism etc etc. I could go on and on.

[@Anonymityfan]

Tbf there us a difference between using philosophy in some everyday application vs spending loads of your time on it.

[@TopG20073]

I am an engineering student, but fr almost all the books that were written by great scientists back in the day (WAYYYYYY back) were about philosophy

[@theDiReW0lf]

I study philosophy to give purpose for my benders. It makes the hangovers more interesting.

[@SaintBusiness]

I need drunk wisdom from you. What philosophers do you mainly read?

[@theDiReW0lf]

@@SaintBusinessI drink, therefore I am.

[@rushd6929]

It makes life beautiful

[@Werday-bv7eh]

"i think thats interesting filosofy" case close

[@hungbosamson4138]

What's the name of the book he's holding?