Philosophy of Plato (Part 2: Allegory of the Cave)

Second half of Plato lecture: Allegory of the Cave & The Divided Line
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happy to watch the excellent teaching with illustrative diagram on the the allegory of Cave. I taught the allegory in some classes in the past by referring more often to the original Platonic text (in Chinese or English translation) to refer to what 'chains' were referred by Plato before we have freer interpretation beyond the text. Also I would refer to the possible alternative of breaking the chains by the prisoner himself rather than 'helped' by the 'teacher' as mentioned in the text. All could create good conversations among students that enlighten self-reflection. The talk by Professor on life example of Susi on after effect of watching Victoria Secret is excellent. Thanks!

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I'll keep my critiques to myself, but finally someone that mentions the relationship of the cave to the divided line.

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In that case, one may start with a couple of lectures on KZbin, proceed then to do some reading, begin to always apply critical thinking in the important aspects and decisions in one's life and try to better one's own self over time. The climb out of the cave is always hard - with or without mentors, professors and method - but nothing stops one but one's chains

This was explained to me at the university four years ago, but very simplified and at that time it didn't have the power to influence me on a path of enlightment. Now this helps. Thank you!

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I left the cave years ago. I had a four hour ketamine infusion recently for chronic pain. I returned to the Platonic level of FORMS George Brooks mentions in this lecture. I experienced it for what seemed like eternity. It was so perfect I wanted to never leave again. I look forward to returning permanently. Thx for the excellent lecture, George.

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[@cullenami]

28:11 I stopped when he insinuated those who go to college are the ones climbing out of the cave and those who didn't are stuck inside it. He Then followed it up with get rid of your friends who disagree with you.

[@georgebrooks7775]

I insinuated nothing of the sort. I was giving an example that a class full of college students might relate to. If you hadn't been so hasty to make a judgement and slammed the door shut on a potential learning experience, you would have found just the opposite. There are many ways to escape the cave...you just didn't have the tenacity to finish the discussion and get to that part.

[@cullenami]

@@georgebrooks7775 I moved on to other discussions with less arrogance.

[@georgebrooks7775]

@@cullenami Translation: "I am too much of a chicken-shit to go back and listen to the rest of the lecture and realize I was completely wrong". --yeah, got it.

[@cullenami]

@@georgebrooks7775 I planned on admitting I was wrong and finishing the video(I have been busy had time to think about it), thanks for affirming my initial impression of you. You like to talk down to those you feel are inferior to you. Why equate a persons social status(no college and low end job) with their ability to understand the universe? You cant be friends with someone that does not view the world the same way you do? Seems elitist.

[@cullenami]

@@georgebrooks7775 I enjoyed part one more than part two, I liked your explanation of forms. You need to work on taking criticism. I understand what you were saying with not changing but the mention of job and education was not relevant to a persons path to enlightenment, it comes across as arrogance. The problem with telling your students that everyone else will feel alien to them is insinuating that they will be right and the "uneducated" will be wrong. The problem is that students often get stuck watching a live stream of the outside world that their professors setup for them. They only see a tree and don't believe anyone telling them their is an entire forest. You should not distance yourself from friends just because they don't have the same understanding of the world.

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I'll throw my hat in the ring as well and say, thank you. At 59 I wasn't stuck in chains, but it's a long journey out of that cave and you have provided some directions. I perhaps should have known better than looking up Plato on KZbin! It's a long journey.

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