CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGY PhD VS. PsyD | WHICH ONE SHOULD YOU CHOOSE??

[@philsguidetopsyd]

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[@JimB16]

I have been a Psychologist for over 30 years. In my opinion there is really little if any difference in practice between the PsyD and PhD... I would focus on getting accepted into an APA APPROVED program and APA APPROVED INTERNSHIP. This will make a difference in career opportunities for many setti gs.

[@philsguidetopsyd]

100% agree! Thanks for your input!

[@jaredpearson1583]

im leaning towards a psyd because im already a masters level practitioner as a psychotherapist but I want to focus on assessments more.

[@mayc8674]

I found this channel on fb. I love learning about psychology. I would have preferred to major in this field but did not. I still like to learn about it. Great channel Phil!

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Thank you so much!

[@geniusproductions2888]

The second option for PhD that you talked about is definetly something would wanna do, especially with stipens. I didn't know those existed! I'm hopeful for the future :)

[@HerBalancedLife]

most helpful video I’ve watched so far!

[@philsguidetopsyd]

So glad!

[@jamiebeckum1989]

Your videos have me so helpful as a undergrad psych senior

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Awesome, glad to know!

[@estelshtein]

Thank you so much for this video--it was incredibly helpful! This has the most up-front information about PhD vs Psy D I've ever heard! Thanks again :)

[@philsguidetopsyd]

You are so welcome!

[@SpeakerConsuela]

I'VE ALWAYS BEEN ATTRACTED TO THIS. I work as a CPS and I hate documentation. I'd think that it'd only get worse as a PsyD.

[@philsguidetopsyd]

You're right in that there is a lot of documentation, most people don't realize, in some settings it's not too bad and just depends. Thanks for your input!

[@Okayandnext]

Hi Phil could you do a video on different neuropsychology PsyD programs and brief details on them?

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Sure thing!

[@_Randa_]

I have been told that a PsyD holder cannot work in research, but you just said the opposite. It would be nice to still have both options if I go in the PsyD direction.

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Yes, the PsyD holder can certainly work in research!! It might be easier to work in research in a psyd school versus a phd school, but many psyd graduates can and may work in research. Psyd may be a great option if you want the clinical practice as well as the research.

[@BecomingDrBaker]

Hey nice channel and great info!

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Thank you!

[@DisasterLoveMCL]

Thank you so much for this🙏

[@philsguidetopsyd]

No worries!

[@ketiagray2305]

I would love to hear how you tailored yourself and application in applying to the Psy.d program. How were your GRE scores, your personal statement & recommendation letters. What do you think made your application stand out to be accepted into your Psy.d program? Also, is your cohort in your program small or large? & more so, personally, if you care to share, how are you paying for your Psy.d program? Love your channel & your content.

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Thank you so much for the support it means a lot! For the GRE, personal statement, and recommendation letters I actually did a video not too long ago, (kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZjRlY2Qdtp7fLc&ab_channel=Phil%27sGuidetoPsy.D. ) feel free to check it out! I think what made my application stand out was probably my clinical experience and letters of recommendation. My cohort size is small, 14 people, so a little smaller for a psyd program. And as of right now I'm paying for grad school mostly through student loans but there are other people in my program that are attempting to join the navy. There are many options (navy, military, army) or some scholarships that will pay for grad school when students commit to working in a rural environment for a number of years so there are a number of options. Also, most psyd programs grant students a few scholarships when they get accepted. Hope that answers some of your questions. I plan on doing more videos specifically about the GRE so stay tuned!

[@jadaawadaawrld]

Hi Phil, thanks so much for the video! So to help me understand better, PsyD is mainly for hands on experience with clients whereas PhD is for research typically? I want to make sure I fully understand so that way I can align myself up with the correct career path. I see myself counseling, sitting down and talking with individuals that way I can diagnose them .. not really deal with math and research 😅 so I should focus on getting my PsyD right? Thank you so much for your help!

[@makaylasisson5761]

Have you heard of the “Apprentice Junior Colleague” model? If so can you help explain it? I’m looking into a PhD in clinical psychology from Ualbany and that’s what it says they follow, however the science-practitioner model sounds like the best fit for me.. thanks! 😊

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Hello! Yes, I have heard about the "Apprentice Junior Colleague" model, which does indeed fit with the science-practitioner model. Most likely, faculty members collaborate with the students, the student might help the faculty member with their research and sort of begin learning the basic tools needed for research in the first few years. Later in the program, the student becomes more independent, starts to do more of the research that they are interested in and likely makes most of the research and clinical interpretations on their own with the faculty member there as a guide. Hope that makes sense! The science-practitioner model is great! Let me know if you have any questions or videos you would like to see :)

[@floralidiaorban4727]

Dear Phil, thank you so much for this practical advice collection. 🙂 I would like to ask if somebody is interested in programme developing eg for government, phd or psyd would be better? Maybe both. 🙂 Thank you very much in advance, and I wish you the best, and success and joy in your career. 🙂

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Thank you! Yes, I think depending on the program either phd or psyd would be great! It also depends what you specifically want to do, but if you can find a program that has that specialty or where students have the available experience while in school then either phd/psyd would work! Hope that helps, good luck on your journey!

[@floralidiaorban4727]

@@philsguidetopsyd thank you very much!

[@terrencegriffin3013]

Thanks for this video. I'm currently in my Phd in philosophy advance studies in human behavior. I have a question can I practice as a forensics psychology with my phd

[@philsguidetopsyd]

You typically wold need a phd in psychology and internship/residency and post doc experience to practice as a forensic psychologist in the u.s. i'm not sure about other countries

[@gracebartholomae2142]

Thank you for this video! I recently just dropped my pre-med title because I decided that I wanted to do clinical psych and not psychiatry. I’m still confused on the program I should prepare for because I want to get a private practice and then go on to a professorship. Do you have any advice for that?

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Good question! Anyone with a masters or phd/psyd in counseling or clinical psychology has the opportunity to do private practice. If you enjoy the research and would like to teach the phd might give you more teaching and professorship opportunities, although there are plenty of psyd professionals who also work in academia. Whichever school aligns more with your passions might help, as well as seeing where graduates from programs are currently working (you might get this information from the school website) to see if any of the alumni are working in places/environments/populations that you also want to work in, that might help narrow the choices for applying and what degree to go for

[@shivyasehgal2285]

Thank you so much for this amazing video. Can you just tell me can we practice as a Clinical Psychology after doing Phd or Psyd or is it mandatory to do Mphil in clinical psychology to practice as a clinical psychologist. Please reply soon its a request🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Hello, it depends on where you apply to school. In the U.S. you do not need a Mphil in clinical psychology. I believe in other countries it's required. So I would check with where you intend on applying. Hope that helps.

[@ashikathapa6772]

I have been looking for PsyD program and came across your channel. I am so confused as i am looking for this program around Europe, but i am unable to find universities that has PsyD program..Can you please help me?

[@imanicain6485]

Thank you so much for this insight. I am receiving my bachelors in business management in a few months but I wish to become a clinical psychologist . Do you think its best for me to get my masters first in a related field ?? masters in psychology and move that way or ....please help :)

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Hi! Great question, there’s a ton of options, really just depends on what’s best for you! If you already have the prerequisites you could apply to some programs who don’t require a psychology degree and skip the masters. But if you want more experience first a masters might be helpful but there’s no right answer it just depends on how you want to get there! Hope that helps!

[@Blessed_MK]

The thing is I want to do more clinician work than research. If I'm being honest I have no huge interest for research but the country I want to do my degree only offers PhD programs but I would be able to get the clinical practice right? If I opt for the PhD and I want to do more clinical work than research would I he able to? If I have a PhD?

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Hi yea that’s a great question. Many clinical psychologists PhD will do only therapy work and clinical work. So even with a PhD you can choose to focus on clinical practice. Psyd and PhD are the same profession but the schools offer a little different experiences based on what the student is interest in. So after you get the PhD it’s completely up to you on how you want to shape your career! Hope that helps!

[@Blessed_MK]

@@philsguidetopsyd thank youu so much it does help a ton! I really want to conduct my masters and doctorate in South Korea because it's fairly new to addressing mental health still and so the universities there currently have no implemented the PsyD program so I would have no choice but to go with the PhD if I wanted to still learn there. So your answer really clears up things for me. Thank you again. Keep making great content I will definitely continue to watch and rewatch for as long as I can🌸

[@pratikxagurungnanu1543]

I found it very helpful but I have one doubt that being an International student for being interested in doing PsyD course do the university ask for any experience or internship before getting the course addmission..it would be really helpful if you could clear my this doubt 👍🏻

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Typically they require some clinical experience, research experience, good GPA, and maybe the GRE score, but not necessarily an internship or formal masters degree. Every program is a little different though so it's also dependent on the program. Hope that helps!

[@casimabe]

Thank you very much Phil. Is it possible to get stipend in PsyD? If yes, how?

[@philsguidetopsyd]

It just depends on the program/school. You might look through different school websites to see if they offer stipends. Many PsyD programs don't but they may offer Teaching Assistant or Research Assistant positions that pay similar to stipends.

[@Bellanicotra1]

thank you so much this was so detailed! do you mind answering this question for me - with a masters in psychology were you still able to get clinical jobs in private practice or whatever and work w patients ?

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Hey, thanks so much for this question! I actually did a video about this question not long ago kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5jXhWqHjN6aZ5Y In short, though, it's a loaded question but I'll do my best to answer. A master's in psychology will get you clinical jobs but you may have to work under supervision under a licensed psychologist. This also depends on the state. Some states limit clinical jobs when only having a master's in psychology so I know a number of people who got licensed as a marriage family therapist (MFT) after getting their master's in psychology in order to work independently in private practice and with patients. This however required a licensure exam, and I believe a year or 2 of working under supervision to fulfill state requirements, allowing them to become independent. Sometimes instead of a master's in psychology, people just get a master's in social work (LCSW) or (MFT) or licensed professional counselor (LPC) which are all 2-year master's programs where from there they can work independently in private practice, and with patients. The nice thing about a master's in psychology though is that sometimes people will later go back to school to get their doctorate whereas if they only had an LPC for example, and they wanted to be a clinical psychologist, they would have to start all over in a 4-6 year program. So having a master's in psychology (specifically clinical psychology), even though it may not provide a diverse range of jobs, has its benefits if someone later wants to go back to school and get their doctorate because they can do it in less time.

[@Bellanicotra1]

@@philsguidetopsyd Thank you sooo much! really appreciate you, and will watch that video as well!

[@sashijoaquin5396]

I have a question for Psy.D how we graduate the four year or after the internship over?

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Great question! You officially graduate after the internship. So most psyd programs are 4 years with a 1 year internship so 5 years total in order to graduate

[@Buzzogoldenboy]

I am from India and I wanna become a clinical psychologist ...i am studying in 11 grade..i wanted to know if Australia is a good place for studying and practicing it..it would be great ifu could reply to me💜

[@philsguidetopsyd]

That's great good luck on your journey! Unfortunately I have no idea about Australia, hopefully someone might see this post and reply to your question!

[@tasnimhasem1474]

Im really not understanding the difference between a clinical psychologist and a psychiatrist

[@philsguidetopsyd]

A psychologist basically can't prescribe medication while a psychiatrist is a medical doctor and they have that ability to prescribe medication. That's probably the biggest difference.

[@CaylaI]

Hi Phil! How long are the programs usually for Clinical Science Model? Would it be like 5 years or like 7 years?

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Great question! Usually 5-6 years but there are some that are 4 years and then 1 year internship, so it depends on the school. Hope that helps!

[@nesszoid]

Did you go straight into the PsyD program from undergrad? Or did you need a masters first?

[@philsguidetopsyd]

I obtained a masters first but many programs do not require a masters in the US

[@wilphyo8465]

Sir, can I choose my professional path both as a psychotherapist and as a university professor with Psy.D?

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Yes with a PsyD/PhD you can work as a therapist and also in academia as a professor

[@1jazzjasmine]

do clinical psychologists make more $ than clinical mental health counselors? If so, how much more?

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Usually they do, depends on country, state, or region and the type of setting but it varies, could be 20-40,000 or even more depending on academia, research, or private practice experience

[@vanessaelizabeth4974]

Did you obtain a masters before applying to the PsyD program? I’m on my 3rd year of undergraduate, and I’m wondering if I should shoot for the stars and just apply to the PsyD after undergrad (ps, I have a 4.0)

[@philsguidetopsyd]

I did but I wasn't sure I wanted to get a PsyD until after my masters. I def encourage anyone that if you know PsyD is for you to apply right after undergrad unless you need to take a break because masters programs can be expensive, take more time, and be repetitive when it comes to some of the course work. I only tell people to look at masters programs if they need to raise their gpa, didn't study psychology in undergrad, or maybe need more research/clinical experience from a masters level psychology program. It sounds like you're in great shape, best of luck!

[@vanessaelizabeth4974]

@@philsguidetopsyd wow thank you, this has helped me a lot! I’m going to shoot for it then.

[@caandicanee6907]

Hi thank you so much, for this video! I was confused on whether I should go for the phd or psyd but I learned a lot after this video. So, the psyd doctorate degree you can do the same things as a PhD doctor so does that mean the pay is the same?

[@philsguidetopsyd]

That is a great question! Generally most people/sources will say that Phd pays more on average maybe like (5-10,000) more but there's so many varying degrees like location, years of experience, and the type of work that a clinical psychologist does that I think even with a PsyD it is very possible to make just as much or more than a Phd. The PhD has been around longer than a PsyD and more doctoral schools tend to hire PhD's because of research, therefore, working in academia tends to pay more, so I think that's a big part of the difference in pay since PsyD's will most likely spend their time in clinical practice rather than research and teaching.

[@smarikarai4836]

Is the semester system better than the quarter system for the PsyD program? What would you recommend? Thank you :)

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Hello! Right now I am in a semester system and I really enjoy it! I went through that all through college and grad school so it's one that I'm very used to. I know other people are used to the quarter system so they prefer it based on comfortability. I wish I knew more about the quarter system, but I would say it depends on the person! There are people that like the quarter system, which has shorter semesters and less work load, but longer durations for the year. The semester system is jam packed with courses but there are longer summer and Christmas breaks. Depending on your personality, one might fit better with you, but if you have a chance to ask students from both systems about what they like and the pros and cons I would highly recommend that!

[@smarikarai4836]

@@philsguidetopsyd Thank you for your advice! I am also used to the semester system myself but I'm not sure which route to take. I have to make my decision by the end of April but I am very nervous about taking the quarter system route since i'm more used to the semester system. Thank you for your advice, I truly appreciate it!

[@MissSmarikaRai99]

@@philsguidetopsyd Hi, I got locked out of my old account but I thought it would be nice to update you as I am going into my third year in the PsyD program… so almost there! Thanks for your video & advice. Wish you a great year ahead!

[@kalashbaj6368]

Other than US, where else can you practice as a psyD holder?

[@philsguidetopsyd]

I think the PsyD can practice internationally all over the world, although some countries may be more familiar with the PhD in clinical psychology than the psyd but I believe that is changing

[@kalashbaj6368]

@@philsguidetopsyd ok thank you🙏

[@ranimkacem4996]

Which university offered PSYd ? And the best in the world ?and how it costed ? Thanks

[@philsguidetopsyd]

There are many programs in the U.S., I'm not sure about the best in the world. Most PsyD programs will have tuition information on their websites, best of luck!

[@TessVonKaam]

How did you decide what to focus on?

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Mainly interests, school location, tuition, and research lab fit, helped! When the school aligns with personal passions and the pass rate is high for the licensure exams is always a good indicator of finding the right choice. Hope that helps!

[@MovingInnerMountains]

Greta content. MSW here. Did you finish?

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Halfway through!

[@saawariyakonwar3042]

May I know who teaches the PsyD students? A PhD holder or a PsyD holder? So if I do PsyD can I become a teacher of PsyD course atleast?

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Great question! Many PsyD programs actually have a mix of PhD and PsyD holders and it's certainly possible even with a PsyD to be a professor or faculty member of a PhD or PsyD program!

[@saawariyakonwar3042]

@@philsguidetopsyd That's great to know that I can teach with either degrees. Thank you lot for your answer! I am so breathing now! 🙂

[@od3ly368]

With the py. D how long is it and can you do both

[@philsguidetopsyd]

PsyD is usually 4-6 years and PhD 5-7 years. I'm not sure about programs in which you can do both, I think in the U.S. students have to choose one or the other based on how they plan on using their degree

[@diamondpearl5711]

Can you apply for psyd right after highschool

[@philsguidetopsyd]

Unfortunately you need a college degree in most cases. Not sure about other countries though besides the U.S.