Why You SHOULDN'T Do a PhD! | Clinical Psychology

[@aya___834]

Thank you for these honest thoughts, one thing that I would also point out is to remember that there can be a lot of variation across programs and working with different mentors. When interviewing with programs ask the students how they are currently doing (especially 3 or 4th years), ask about the funding, ask about the quality of life. Remember you are also interviewing the programs and that you have to prioritize yourself and well being

[@jojodouglas]

Absolutely! I talk about this very point at length in another video on my channel about program interviews

[@RoxxyVega]

Great video I’m here as an LCSW who was considering going back for a PhD bc I want to be able to do psychological assessments and testing outside of therapy but I really don’t want to quit my job bc I love it

[@TheFlyTherapist]

We're in the same boat lol

[@dodaprettygirlrock]

I’m a LMSW pursuing my LCSW and I’m considering a PHD while I have the momentum. I’m 25 with no kids

[@JimB16]

I have been a Psychologist for over 30 years. You are making some excellent points. Anyone considering a PhD needs to really really really carefully consider the costs and benefits. I really hope many Psychology students see your videos. Thank you!

[@0.3nergy]

how have you been able to pay back the debts ?

[@JimB16]

@@0.3nergy Honestly.. It was much more reasonable back in the day...professional programs in Psychology have raised their tuition over the years far above inflation and the typical starting salaries for new, pre licensed Psychologists. I am hearing it is a struggle for many.

[@talesofcsoplahia]

I agree. If your career goal is not specifically dependent on a doctorate, then think twice. I will be starting my 4th year of doctoral study in psychology in 2024, and if I didn’t have very specific career aspiration, I probably would have quit a year ago. The stress is nearly unbearable and money will be a significant object without ample funding. I, too, have had to take student loans and am scared to check my balance because I might actually pass out when I see how much I’ve had to borrow. There are others paths for most career aspirations. Exhaust your options before deciding on a ph.d., or other kind of doctorate.

[@travl.moore_777]

Thank you, for your honest review. Listening to you talk about stress level was intense. It reminded of my stress level working FT and completing graduate school full time. Remembering those feeling for myself and quite possibly a lifetime of debt, it is a SERIOUS commitment!

[@mari_-ji5sn]

I’m currently struggling in my PhD and wondering if I’ve made the right decision. Thank you for your transparency and sharing your story. I hope everything will be better at the end. ❤

[@jojodouglas]

Doubts will always creep into your mind. It’s completely normal! Whatever decision you make for you in the end will be the right one. Thank you, and I hope everything works out for you as well 💛

[@chlochlo8207]

Don’t make her give you doubts keep going

[@mentalhealingwithelaine]

I’m in the thick of it. Doing my dissertation and internship application at the same time and it’s breaking me. My anxiety is so high it’s numbing. If this isn’t what you truly desire, please don’t put yourself through a PhD

[@jojodouglas]

THIS! Also, sending you so many good vibes right now. I know doing you dissertation and internship apps at the same time is not easy whatsoever. 💛

[@Brainjoy01]

that anxiety is how youre going to be able to help people more someday. trust people when they say its paralyzing, dont judge them just because you got thru med school and they cant leave the house xx

[@joan_of_arts]

Based on your explanation, I think a PhD will work for me 😆 I just want to study all my life 😆

[@briannab638]

I’ve been thinking about leaving my PhD program, I’m just not happy anymore and it’s draining so I definitely understand.

[@jojodouglas]

Aw I’m so sorry to hear that but it’s completely understandable. Whatever you decide, I’m sure it’ll be the best decision for you 💛

[@chelababy5047]

I am currently earning my bachelor’s in psychology online and I am a single mother of three. I want to be a research or forensic psychologist and will need my PhD but I am scared to do it now because I have little to almost no support, no family or friends to rely on financially. I appreciate you making this video because I did not know how impossible it was to work & sustain your income & family while getting your PhD. I feel so heartbroken and I don’t want to give up, but I don’t want to commit to something that realistically is not feasible 💔💔💔😭😭😭. Thank you for the warning!! 💕🙏

[@jojodouglas]

Hi love! First, I want to apologize and make clear that my goal with this video is not to break anyone’s heart and deter them from pursuing their goals. My only purpose in making this video is to make as transparent as possible what sacrifices may have to be made in order to pursue a PhD. With that being said, I encourage you to really explore any options you may have before giving up entirely. Everyone’s journey looks different and only you can make the best decision for yourself and your family. And you can always dm me on ig if you have any specific questions you’d like some guidance on 🙏🏾💛

[@joan_of_arts]

I believe you can still achieve your dreams. Manifesting blessings will come your way soon ✨ You got this!!!!

[@ChristopherAnderson-nd1mh]

You make very good points. One thing that wasn't mentioned is how competitive admission to a Ph.D Clinical psychology and/or Counseling psychology program can be. 200-300 people applying for 8 spots is common for clinical programs. For Counseling psychology. it's a 1 out of 10 chance if I remember correctly. If you want to be a clinician, DO NOT apply for a Ph.D. You can do all the Clinical work you want with a master's degree and it takes 2 years full time plus two years after graduation (usually) to get your license If you want to go into Academia, go for a Ph.D. Tenure track positions are incredibly competitive. There's increasing emphasis on Adjunct faculty. I don't regret getting my doctorate for a millisecond. I'm not in Academia anymore but have a well paying job as a clinician at an agency

[@Ericdj15]

Im going to go for my Phd. Right after my masters because im 27years old right now and im thinking its now or never. I want to also be in a place where I charge what I want and be the best I can be. And have unlimited options.

[@ajfresh8774]

Thank you for this insight. I was going to work on a PhD, now am rather get a 2nd masters to be Lin. Thx

[@Ishan-x7u]

gurl your makeup is so flawlesssssss! fr beauty with brains

[@jojodouglas]

Thank youuu! ☺️

[@whitneybarnes4201]

Thank you so much for making videos like this! I'm in my undergrad right now and looking at all the options for what degree i might want and your videos have really been helpful for me to look at whether I really want a phd

[@stacytulloch3902]

I have to say much love and thanks to you. This really helps.

[@juliepozsonyi2147]

Great honesty stay true t your feelings and keep climbing the educational mind Bless You!!

[@Lalamochi444]

Thank you for your thoughts it was very helpful❤

[@COOLSUN08]

Thank you Jojo, really appreciate the honesty💖

[@SaraKoleini]

Thank you so much, JoJo Can you suggest some other ways to be a mental health professional?

[@jojodouglas]

Hi there! Here’s a video I did a couple years back! I hope it’s helpful 💛 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fH7Km2OveMmLhbMsi=zCDTauVj6bDgxL1T

[@lizhurtado1986]

I’m graduating next year with a dual degree with criminal justice and psychology I’m debating either going to law school or phd program.

[@ajg9758]

Hello! Fellow WOC here, I'm in my undergrad as a Jr and just found a program that helps students like myself get into graduate programs that are fully funded. Research of course is preReq, and this program offers it as well. I was wondering if you had a video or could discuss some of the careers you can do with a PhD and I'd love to hear what you plan to do specifically with yours. My hope whether Ma or PhD is to be private practice. I started searching online about the degree because my university lacks in the communication department, but your video is one of the first I came across and being that stressed out does not sound fun to me - but there has to be good reasons why people go through it you know? Anyways, I had just hoped to connect with a peer and hear about it. Thank you for sharing your life! I hope post winter-break doesn't have you in a choke hold yet lol!

[@jojodouglas]

Hi there! I do have at least one video that I've done that I can remember where I talk about pathways to becoming a therapist (I believe the title is "4 most common ways to become a therapist"). I also did a brief series last semester on the difference between clinical psych and other psychology career paths, and I believe in the very first one (clinical psych vs counseling psych) I briefly went over the types of careers you can pursue with a phd in clinical psych. I also plan to go live tomorrow and can definitely talk about my own reasons and plans there, so please join if you're interested in that! Thanks for watching and supporting and I'm sending you lots of positive energy!

[@ricokxng808]

Been watching a few of your videos.. I wish you would’ve explained the difference between the Masters and Phd .. pros and cons .. career options and potential .. difference in earnings after graduation etc..

[@jojodouglas]

Hi there! I actually do have quite a few videos on my channel on those topics! I hope you find them helpful :) - Does a masters before your PhD make sense?: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2Kspn6Xec1of6s - 4 most common ways to become a therapist: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fH7Km2OveMmLhbM - The difference between MA and PhD work: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIm5nIehjtmdaa8 - A year-by-year breakdown of PhD programs: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pau7p2abmauqjac - (Maybe) you should do a PhD: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6rKdI17nZiVbsU

[@keciaaskew5166]

Hello Jojo. Thank you so much for sharing this video. When I finished my masters degree in child psychology. I want to go for my Doctor of Psychology in School-Clinical Child Psychology which is a PsyD degree.

[@Wren25953]

Can I ask what your specific career need for your PhD is? I think that would help me so much in deciding if it’s still right for me.

[@jojodouglas]

Sure! I think generally, I just like the career flexibility that having a PhD provides in terms of where I work, what I do, etc. Getting a PhD also provides training/education that I wouldn’t have otherwise had (like assessment). That being said, I’d also like to incorporate assessment into my clinical work, and assessment is something you can only do independently with a PhD. Hope that helps!

[@xchorro]

i am literally barely starting my bachelors probably a year and a half now after being at city college. my original goal a while ago was to become a psychiatrist which is a ton more school now that i’m serious about my studies at 24 and want to get my PhD in psychology?!!!!! i want to be a therapist but is it possible to be a psychiatrist too? i am not overwhelmed but i like to think ahead of time i just really love to plan but i want to know more about this. luckily i live with my parents and i THINK they would still be able to house me until 30 honestly if i go for my PhD. i hope that doesn’t sound pathetic i’m just thinking long term. i currently work and pay for my own school but like 😅😅😅 if money is going to be a huge issue then i gotta do this

[@jojodouglas]

Hi there! I'm not sure I entirely understand your question, but I'll try to answer to best I can. It seems like you're asking if you can be both a psychologist and a psychiatrist? To that, the answer is *technically* yes. However, while becoming a clinical psychologist requires a PhD or PsyD, becoming a psychiatrist requires you go through med school. Both are *very* lengthy processes and will cost a lot of money. I think it would best for you to look into each career and decide which option feels like the better choice to pursue for yourself. While both a clinical psychologist and a psychiatrist can provide therapy services, the jobs themselves can be quite different in a number of ways. Earning potential is also quite varied depending on whether you decide to pursue research, clinical practice, or both. I hope this helps!

[@xchorro]

@@jojodouglas thank you maybe it's just too wordy, but basically I am wanting to go towards clinical psychology route to become a therapist but would like to still devote time to research on medicine so also a minor in biochem/microbiology. I'm just thinking long term but I don't have much knowledge on the processes. Like you said one devotes a ton of time to one particular area I more so just want to know if it's possible to be a clinical psychologist while also partaking in labwork

[@career5690]

Did you ever make a video about why you should get a PhD?

[@chlochlo8207]

EXACTLY WHAT I SAID everyone is so negative on KZbin bet she’s not going to

[@jojodouglas]

@@chlochlo8207 I did actually. It’s my most recent video 😘

[@kaylao.3326]

What’s your perspective on PsyD programs?

[@jojodouglas]

Hi there! I'm not sure I have much of a perspective on PsyD programs, as I'm not in one nor do I know anyone in a PsyD program. I have a very general sort of understanding of the differences between PhD programs and PsyD programs - the main one being that PsyD has less of a focus on research. I've also heard that they can be more expensive, but I think this depends a lot on the school itself and other factors, so don't take my word for it. There's a great channel here on KZbin I'd recommend you check out if you're interested in learning more about PsyD programs - Phil's Guide to PsyD www.youtube.com/@philsguidetopsyd

[@k.f.9875]

I want to apply for PhD in clinical psychology in a US university. I already have a PhD in philosophy, but I am really interested in clinical psychology. I would need to be fully funded. But hard to find funds for MA degree. So no other option than PhD. And I have a dog. But, to be honest, your video disappointed me. If I may ask, why aren’t you fully funded? How much is full fund? Would it cover all the cost of one person and a dog?

[@jojodouglas]

Hi there, I completely understand your disappointment, and I'm sorry that my video seems to have discouraged you a bit. Unfortunately, not every clinical psych phd program is fully funded. "Fully funded" tends to mean that not only is your tuition covered, but you would also receive a stipend that is intended to help cover daily living expenses. However, I have never met a fully funded student whose stipend was enough to *completely* cover their expenses. There's a very likely chance that even if you were to receive full funding, you'd still have to work part time in addition to being a student

[@chlochlo8207]

@@jojodouglasyou did that on purpose. Making people doubt themselves KZbinrs like you🌚

[@chlochlo8207]

Don’t listen to her it’s an opinion do what your heart desires I don’t know why these videos show up on my feed. Really unnecessary

[@jojodouglas]

@@chlochlo8207 feel free to click “do not recommend this channel to me” so you’re no longer recommended my videos. No one is forcing you to watch. And anyone who watches my videos regularly is very aware that I’m only sharing my experience to make the PhD process transparent so that they can make informed decisions for themselves. They are free to make whatever decisions they feel are best for them, and I encourage them to do so. You’d know that if you watched the video ☺️

[@Aleks-ie9ek]

hey, I have a question. Is it possible to work in clinics with a master in clinical psychology? thanks in advance for your answer

[@Aleks-ie9ek]

I would like to help people with mental disorders in any way I can in this direction

[@jojodouglas]

Hi there, this is a great question! It is possible (to my knowledge) but ultimately it will come down to the job requirements of the particular clinic. Chances are you won’t be able to take on a more patient/client focused position (such as a therapist or counselor) without being under the supervision of a licensed psychologist, but you may be able to take on a more admin support role such as being a care coordinator or something similar

[@Aleks-ie9ek]

@@jojodouglas thank you for your detailed response! it helps me understand more

[@pepevelez4742]

your reasons sound like i DID IT don't come down here. It takes, time, its time consuming, its expensive, but of course that is obvious this is why it is not easy to geet one., and people who maybe thinking the contrary are simple idiots.