CES 2017: First Lok - SteadXP - video stabilisation system

[@oc2phish07]

OMG. I just noticed that as soon as my computer sees the name LOK, it moves the mouse to click on 'LIKE', automatically. Nice Video Lok.

[@pckuching3374]

oc2phish07 you brain got infected with lok virus

[@StreetsOfVancouverChannel]

That corrected footage really looked good....

[@trad4097]

always nice to see Dan and his Pole

[@QuanTruong7]

Lok bought me here :) and those shots are amazing!

[@Intfluencer]

Nice to see you Lok...

[@NeilMendham]

Great wideo Lok - keep 'em coming!

[@davehyper7835]

wow what a great bit of kit! nice review Lok.

[@grannetia72]

wow, that's a great tool. The drone like video is awesome. This opens up a lot of amazing camera angles and moves without the use of very expensive gear. 👍👍👍

[@jjrdias]

Ingenious.

[@RyoHazuki224]

Wow that's actually really impressive! I mean sure you have to crop into your video a bit, but I can picture if you're shooting in 4K and you usually edit for 1080p, you'd still get really quality video! I want one really bad!

[@wavensdorvad]

What a simple and smart idea!! I love it!

[@NatesFilmTutorials]

Every camera should have this built in!

[@DavidCheung]

Love these first loks!

[@SatanicJamnic]

Legendary NOT ALLOWED pole!

[@Photogearnews]

+SatanicJamnic 😂

[@rjgthuro]

Photogearnews so there is no way to have this AND a mic?

[@SteadXP]

Hi Robert! SteadXP+ uses the stereo audio input of your camera to synchronize itself with video recording. However, with an appropriate adapter (not included), you’ll be able to plug an external microphone and record a mono audio channel from your camera.

[@rjgthuro]

SteadXP thanks is it available for purchase yet?

[@lowlightproductions8606]

it's definitely available for purchase. good luck having it shipped to you, though. Ordered mine July 29, 2016 when it was advertised be ready for fall.

[@jilee1721]

Incredible....

[@dimitrimoonlight]

thanks for reviewing stead xp.

[@Counisher]

Belle démonstration merci !

[@haluhoho]

Wow, I'm actually surprised how stable it is after correction.

[@mcrazza]

That's some impressive stabilised footage. The problem I can see is that the device isn't useful on a sub-4K camera. For example, if I'm shooting on a camera which has a maximum 1080p video mode, then the stabilised footage will be cropped down to 720p. So for best picture quality you're essentially limited to 4K-capable cameras, which cancels out a lot of DSLRs.

[@actionimagesphotography]

Lok, I'm wondering if you are able to use face detection on your Sony when you do your close- ups talking? Sure would help with the focus shifting.

[@uncleaaron5435]

Subscribed because of LOK.

[@HyperspeedMedia]

does it still record audio?? while using it?

[@JohnyTechReview]

lol actually works pretty well. How long was the render

[@SteadXP]

Hi JohnyTechReview! The treatment is much more faster than any current video stabilizer software. With a core i7 processor, you’ll enjoy real-time preview and a rendering in 25fps for a 2.7K footage (12fps for 4K).

[@IlhamMaulana-mx6qn]

always support lok and kai!

[@dennisolof9994]

Interesting device, even though it does crop a bit, I wonder if the quality is much better when using this device, or is it much faster to stabilize video with this device ? The "Not OK" stick is a great tool, I like it a lot. And the reactions :-)

[@SteadXP]

Hi Dennis! As other video stabilizer softwares , yes there's a crop of the video so a small loss of quality. With SteadXP, the treatment is much more faster and the result is more efficient due to the data movements recorded during the shooting, used by our algorithms to stabilize the footage. Of course it exists plenty solutions of video stabilization, each one has its strengths and weaknesses.

[@dennisolof9994]

Thanks, so the main advantage is speed compared to using software only. I can see how that could be of great use.

[@bjoernfischer]

will it crop less if you hae a fairly steady shot to begin with?

[@jilee1721]

I wonder what would happen if it plugged on DJI Osmo. Would it catch the z axis problem?

[@jeffreybaker2442]

My SteadXP+ just arrived. I was really interested when I backed this in October 2015 (that's right, almost 20 moths ago), but now I'm pretty skeptical. First, you only get the box without any accessories. All this is listed on the website, but still, it's a bit of a let down that I have to order more stuff before I can even start using it. I need to get a GoPro Hero 3 (not 4 or 5) battery? Fine if you have a go pro, but I don't. Why not just AAA? Now I have to spend another $20 just to test thing. I had planned to use it with a Canon EOS C100 because it is a bit heavier than DSLRs so gimbals for it are still pretty expensive. The C100 is locked to 1/48 shutter and 23.98FPS HD so I'm not sure it is even going to work. Now, you may say I should have known this going in but it was really hard to figure all this out when I backed the Kickstarter in October of 2015. So, it's a Kickstarter and all that, but do I really want to buy a battery that I can't return just to test this thing? Also, the @steadxp youtube channel is empty.

[@Photogearnews]

+Jeffrey Baker All good info. Thanks Jeffrey. Right now it sounds like you are lucky to have one given a few of the other stories on here. If you take a look on Amazon/eBay you should be able to pick up a cheap 3rd party battery for less than $20 (Amazon UK has a charger and 2x batteries for £11) Please keep us updated with how you get on. We'd be interested in both the experience of using it and just how it works on a C100. Has anyone else received their SteadXP yet?

[@jeffreybaker2442]

Thanks for battery info, @Photogearnews. The issue with the C100 is that is locked at 1/48 shutter and SteadXP recommends 1/250 for best performance. If true, this a bummer because it limits the device to high frame rate use and cameras that can shoot 120fps 1080 or 60fps 4K... But I'll see and report back.

[@jorgem50]

Where can I find that pole?

[@GigiScorcia]

but that AutoFocus problem on your vlog camera... pls do something

[@TheLokCheung]

I really need to look into this. I'm using a7S II now, which I didn't have this problem with the one I was using in DigitalRev...

[@GigiScorcia]

great job btw

[@geoffreybassett6741]

A7r II or A6500 would have better low-light AF correct?

[@grantly5229]

Anyone know the song at 4:22?

[@jorgem50]

very interesting product.

[@iDealMedley]

Why would you need this ? When you will also have the choice to stabilize footage in post. Is there anything different abt this product. Sounds like an interesting idea but not totally convince yet

[@SketchTurnerZero]

iDeal Better quality, cheap price.

[@lonerider68]

Mostly copied and pasted from another reply. The main thing is that this is cheaper and less bulky than a mechanical solution like a gimbal (which is better in actual resultant image quality). Someone asked how it compared to other post-processing methods like Warp Stabilization in Adobe Premiere Pro. Here is my reply to that. As someone who uses Warp Stabilization in Premiere Pro on a near daily basis. This device has sensors that can directly measure the motion of the camera, while warp stabilization has to analyze every single frame and make a "guess" at what the original motion was (which is difficult if there are irregular or moving objects in the scene confusing the algorithm). That means the video from this device will be smoother (more precise compensation), with less of the frame lost to cropping (again due to more precision), it will also run on your computer significantly faster (since there is no frame by frame image computation algorithm going)... so what might normally take 15-20 mins to "analyze" a 3 minute segment in Premiere Pro, this should be able to do in almost real time. Also again because of the high precision, it can eliminate rolling shutter distortion as well (Premiere Pro Warp Stabilizer will leave that you end up with a really jelly distortion of the image if the camera shakes too much). Of course it isn't all rainbows and unicorns. This device uses the audio channel to embed the information into the video file (so I am pretty sure you lose audio unless you use an external recorder). It also isn't very effective for fast moving object in low light where the shutter speed is low (below 1/60) because it can't correct blurring occurring within each frame due to a long exposure time. BTW... while this device sound great. It is literally a year behind schedule (they were originally planning to ship March 2016). So take everything with a grain of salt as I backed it on Kickstarter Sept 2015 and am still waiting for it to be shipped :P

[@SteadXP]

In fact you're totally right @Lonerider! But this time it's the right one, no more delays :) Shipping starts in Feb. 20th, with the Kickstarter backers who chose the "6 weeks offer". Then the calendar will respect the chronological order of commands: super early and early backers at the beginning of April, the rest of the backers in April and the pre-buyers at the end of April-early May. #SteadXPiscoming

[@lonerider68]

@SteadXP today is March 5. On Feb 27th a you admitted that you failed to ship any units despite the "no more delays" promises you made dozens of times, all the while you were still saying units were shipping (I see posts up the Feb 24th saying units were shipping and that early backers would receive there units in the coming week) despite the fact that your manufacturing equipment was broken and you were completely blocked on shipping. You mentioned that the instruction manuals hadn't arrive either (were they late, the devices themselves took an extra year to start making, surely you could have ordered the manual a few months earliy... even then, I'm sure 100% of backers would have been fine download the manual from the internet if meant receiving their orders a week or two earlier). The lack of updates makes me thing you are still failing to ship a single unit two weeks after you "no more delays" shipping date.

[@26mook]

SteadXP: Let's stay optimistic! No, let's be realistic! I hate myself for not buying the Dji Ronin stabilizer last summer 2016 2,287 backers pledged €505,621 to help bring this project to life. SteadXP open a Webshop knowing that they can not deliver October 2016 - without information delivery changed to December - changed again without information April and now early May!

[@Daevalus]

this is pretty sweet!

[@cynthiamomokoharper8100]

LOVE THE POLE. It is Okay.

[@RArecordingsRickValcon]

so, It still crops the image for stabilisation?

[@TheLokCheung]

Yep it does. We shoot it at 4K and render the final at 1080

[@SketchTurnerZero]

RArecordings -Rick- Well, you can't make software stabilization without crop.

[@theory8sf]

U guys think the steadXP+ will work on a GoPro with a LCD screen? The screen has a mic jack and I have a GoPro case with a cold shoe.

[@Loftikaz]

does it work with 4k and export st 1080p? if so ill get rid of my gimball for good

[@TheLokCheung]

Yep we shot those test footages at 4K and export at 1080

[@Loftikaz]

awsome any info on the carbon fiber boom pole he used? this could be a great drone replacement

[@zengagamingz]

Can i use this in one plus 7

[@keithspillett7312]

Now that IS clever! Nice video too.

[@thefourth4375]

i want a buy this product how much ?

[@nexxtmediaguide7594]

i hope you also do reviews in you native language!! Best!

[@RusstafaB]

Been waiting a long time for this as I was one of the Kickstarter backers. Hope this guy is wrong and it is MUCH better than the OSMO which is pretty much crap in my opinion and regret ever having bought the DJI Osmo which even with the Z axis is pretty abysmal. The SteadXP team are quite innovative and have obviously worked extremely hard on this project funded by Kickstarter. I am really looking forward to using it on my (soon to arrive) GH5 with Leica Lens, I expect great results. My only concern is how long is it before one of the big camera manufacturers embeds it in to one of their products,maybe when we get 6K cameras then we can crop down to 4K??

[@TravelWithCesarin]

What is the camera compatibility list for this device? Will it ever work for Nikon or Canon? or just Mirrorless style? or just certain brands? (gopro? pentax? panasonic?)

[@Bangbangboom51]

any camera with a hotshoe and mic input.

[@SteadXP]

We provide two video stabilization solutions : SteadXP@ for your GoPro (compatible with GoPro H2, H3, H3+ and H4) and SteadXP+ for your DSLR/Mirrorless camera (as soon as it has a coldshoe and a mic input).

[@Bangbangboom51]

SteadXP as *long* as it has hotshoe and mic input. your welcome.

[@AlexBakkerthevloglife]

this is what i need!! i presume you can not add an external mic then :S

[@MrKockabilly]

The heart of this device is actually too small that camera makers should have this built-in in the camera.

[@sooovann8908]

Does it work with cameras like GX85 or G85 which do have IBIS ?

[@orange42]

Do you use electronic stabilisation on those cameras? Stead is worse than that.

[@SteadXP]

Hi Sooovann! Every cameras with a flash mount (coldshoe) and a mic input are compatible with our SteadXP+. If your camera have an EIS or an OIS, you'll have to deactivate it, as it will interfere with our algorithms.

[@Stormannormanphotos]

I want one!

[@NikonFM2n]

first Look with Lok.

[@deka3740]

im so interesting with Dan's pole,, anybody can tell me what it is?

[@cdm7steve]

www.genustech.tv/products/the-charters-pole

[@schizzlschnitzl]

...and awesome video btw.!! :-)

[@mrharpman]

Ordered mine today! Hopefully I wont take too long to ship to Kickstarter buyers. €336 and the a wait for 2 month is giving me a hard time. 🙃

[@Bangbangboom51]

It must be really cheap compared to a gimbal since you still need a laptop and a camera with mic input and it will crop-in the video resolution to about 40%.

[@TheLokCheung]

You still need a computer and a camera if you use a gimbal

[@Bangbangboom51]

Lok Cheung true, but less post processing and time will be needed and no cropping with gimbal although this is a lot more compact than a gimbal.

[@SteadXP]

Hi there! Of course it exists plenty solutions of video stabilization, each one has its strengths and weaknesses. What makes SteadXP attractive compared to a gimbal is indeed its compactness and the freedom of movements it allows while shooting. Take a look to this article from Lok's friend, Dan, to see how SteadXP can offer new filming possibilities: www.newsshooter.com/2017/02/02/steadxps-image-stabilisation-tested-on-the-charters-pole-without-a-gimbal/

[@teun9093]

Lok?

[@TheApp9]

Yeah I am a Kickstarter Backer of this and wait to get my SteadXP :)

[@ashreybeecham]

looks kinda same as warp stabilizer... its just that software doesn't have to calculate movement of camera anymore, its all pre recorded...

[@Photogearnews]

+Ashrey Beecham ... and it doesn't have the 'Warp' part.

[@ashreybeecham]

and it's also not a true stabilizer, if the camera is shaken a lot during running suppose, then the crop factor will increase a lot

[@Photogearnews]

I think that whilst 1080 is still the norm for most internet uploads, then shooting 4K with the SteadXP and having a huge amount of the frame to move around stabilisation is great. Like you say, you'll need to shoot a bit wider because of the crop factor. By the time 4K becomes the norm, cameras will be shooting 6k and probably 8k, so this type of stabilisation still has a place, even if it isn't perfect and has some compromises.

[@DomHallBass]

YOU GOT MY FULL SUPPORT LOK 777 LIKES!

[@schizzlschnitzl]

Pole Position!

[@kiritoxy]

wow, no warping effect! but isnt that degrading IQ when re render it in post?

[@crucialclick7737]

Yes. It is suppose to vary on the amount of shake. So having a solid shot is always best. I asked the company about it a while back.

[@jamiepollard7857]

oh god I want this. I wish some of the art house movie makers would get such a thing, so they can make a version of a movie that doesn't make me sea sick xD

[@tonypardilla2087]

wow

[@muzzammel4601]

interesting device but i hope the price is cheaper than handheld gimbal and it can be reduced into smaller form factor

[@uscoe]

Lok, we love you but "No Homo pls" lol.... Thanks for the great informative video and ever since you and Kai left DigitalRev I have not watched their video. Anyway, i've been seriously considering to buy a gimbal but seeing this has change my decision...... i'll wait for the release but "DO YOU KNOW THE COST PRICE?"

[@johnbernard6734]

This is pretty cool, especially since I have a G7, and can't afford the GH5, yet. It's unfortunate, though, that it's another stabilization method that cancels out using a shotgun mic.

[@camphill888]

336,00€ or £286 a lot of money for small black box

[@sotocine99]

That is too much. Max € 200 is ok.

[@Gleebi]

I backed this over a year ago and still no product. Got my refund 6 weeks later. They were pleading with me to change my mind and would play hard ball about getting my refund. What u guys don't know is you need to use really high shutterspeed for it to work. For the filming community 1/48 or 50 won't work.

[@brownek12]

You're very lucky! A lot of backers have been asking for refunds for past couple of months. SteadXp communication is absolutely horrible and I feel really sorry for backers: www.kickstarter.com/projects/1091165875/steadxp-the-future-of-video-stabilization/comments

[@Gleebi]

brownek12 I complained to my bank. There's a rule if you purchase anything with your credit card or visa debit, and the company does not provide the goods, they will chase the company in question and give you the money back for the interim. Steadxp are a joke and should NOT be allowed to promote until the product is READY.... Not 'still in development' but showing in stock on the website

[@TheLokCheung]

Sorry to hear that! I'm not familiar with any problems they have, but it is an amazing product, so I do hope they solve any problems they have and deliver it soon.

[@lonerider68]

@Lok Cheung They've been promising to finally ship on Feb 20th... and even posted a photo that day of units supposedly being shipped that day. The next few days they were assuring people that it was only a matter of time that backers who orders were in "processing" would be shipped and they would get a tracking number, then on Feb 28th, they admitted that zero units had actually been shipped so far as in the previous week a machine broke (and they never mentioned it). That was a week ago, it's now two weeks past their "much delayed, be we promise this time" shipping date (you can see them say it here in this discussion thread for your youtube video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXXPqGZ7l5qFbac&lc=z121e3j5cr3atb20m233wzzq1xios3d4l04.1486397473592209) and they have gone silent since then.

[@kimibrowne4440]

@Lonerider, yep looks really really bad now as there hasn't been any communication since 1st March on their kickstarter page. Backers not happy: www.kickstarter.com/projects/1091165875/steadxp-the-future-of-video-stabilization/comments At the moment, it looks like Steadxp is still working on resolving their invoice problems?

[@spitfire1.2spit57]

I am waiting for the chinese knock-off ebay version...

[@tilago]

Literally only here to what lok thinks

[@WHITELIONNYC]

Nice vid. I'll pass on that device. I'll wait for Sony A7III with IBIS.

[@ooiphotoartistry]

Lok, love your work! the PGN starting theme music is very very very bad! Just my opinion. Cheers!

[@aronisink1]

What kind of witchcraft are they using..

not perfect, but with lens with IS it could be awesome :)

[@PankajMohan]

lok

[@qbgabe12]

First!

[@qbgabe12]

Hi Lok!

[@CharlezRichard]

This is no good. It uses your one and only mic input of your camera making your camera useless for audio since now you can not plug an external microphone into the camera.

[@coppliable]

Take my money please... Or if you need any more product testers SteadXP? il pay for P&P x

[@sotocine99]

me too

[@SteadXP]

It is currently available on presale ;) steadxp.com/shop/

[@MladenArchieDelic]

the dumbest way to review some stabilisation system or steadycam ist to do it with wide angle lenses which are the most uncritical lenses under "shaky" conditions. While all the reviews are checking the gear at the edge of the possible as for instance, Low Light at 24800 and over, dynamic, clipping, noise,..under impossible circumstances we usually never work. Really wanna see once a review of some stabilisation system, steadycam or whatever being checked with critical lenses..over 50, 85mm. Then you will really see the differences.

[@orange42]

Worse crop than an FZ2500 in 4k. Atrocious. Warp, Mercalli, both do a better job with less crop just from particle tracking. Plus it does not remove image knock which is very problematic on the GH4. The fact is, in the last two years IBIS on Panasonic and Olympus cameras has totally surpassed this kind of add-on box - same accelerometer gyro input but no crop and clear sensor feed.

[@blarkdexture8899]

Digitalrev is DEAD

[@starboy2013]

So after getting the system having to buy other items for it to run then formatting different cards for it to work. Than spending hours trying to get the lens calibration to work which I still did not in the end I can honestly tell you this. This is a of shit which you charge to much for!

[@jos_t_band3912]

Do you always have to calibrate? I have a gh4 and 7 14 lens. Isnt that combination already calibrated in the software? Regards Erik

[@jeromedeuson4099]

Believe me and a thousand Kickstarter backers, this project can win the price of the worst communication ever in the Kickstarter history. I started backing this project back in 2015 and I still haven't see the colour of what I purchased. Surf the web before buying and you will see how many angry people are complaining about all of this. It's French non sense at its best...

[@MattiaMerli]

Damn the AF in this video really sucks...

[@TheLuNaMaStEr]

first lok hahaha

[@CreatorofWhat]

Shut up and take my money!! wait umm how much?

[@theory8sf]

U guys think the steadXP+ will work on a GoPro with a LCD screen? The screen has a mic jack and I have a GoPro case with a cold shoe.