CES 2017: Lok watches a Sony A7R II get taken to pieces

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@seamusandpat
@seamusandpat 8 жыл бұрын
One of the most interesting videos I have seen Lok. Thanks.
@Daniel_Zalman
@Daniel_Zalman 8 жыл бұрын
There was this awkward tension between the technician and Lok.
@adamchen279
@adamchen279 8 жыл бұрын
You're working hard to create interesting contents. Good job, Lok!
@LeicaM82
@LeicaM82 8 жыл бұрын
PGN - great content! I hope you can keep Lok on your staff for years to come. Thanks!
@ThePandaPhotographer
@ThePandaPhotographer 8 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy for you Lok that you get to do what you love and you have a awesome job. Keep up the good work
@cynthiamomokoharper8100
@cynthiamomokoharper8100 8 жыл бұрын
AMAZING!!! I will never complain about the cost of repairs. WOW!
@shaolin95
@shaolin95 8 жыл бұрын
Momoko Harper hahaha true indeed
@tjarsun
@tjarsun 8 жыл бұрын
4:10 He [and most technicians on service and repair shops] uses a higher than normal table, that way you are not leaning down on things and can keep a good posture!
@venom5809
@venom5809 8 жыл бұрын
Holy crap that's a lot of stuff and a lot of work in that camera, makes me appreciate more why they cost as much as they do.
@sweettooth5737
@sweettooth5737 8 жыл бұрын
And I can hardly put the screws back into my glasses frame!! 😂😂😂
@guardianobserver6593
@guardianobserver6593 8 жыл бұрын
TastyCritters Buy a second pair of glasses. Dahhh!
@paulsarajuuri2185
@paulsarajuuri2185 8 жыл бұрын
MORE LOK!!!!!
@Marco-dr5ho
@Marco-dr5ho 8 жыл бұрын
wow, cameras are a nightmare to take apart
@cosminovidiumunteanu
@cosminovidiumunteanu 8 жыл бұрын
Caost wait until you have to put it back together 😉
@Shadowdncer
@Shadowdncer 8 жыл бұрын
A riddle wrapped up in an enigma surrounding a conundrum wrapped in flex leads wrapped around that's not supposed to bend that way covered in where did it go, and if you have a pop-up flash you're always close to a shock hazard too.
@bananasandbass
@bananasandbass 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, I knew cameras got complex, but so many layers. It's quite amazing that they manage to fit all of this tech (basically a whole computer with good mobile gpu and all this hardware) and the sensor shift inside there. Makes me respect the price more.
@shizueleven
@shizueleven 8 жыл бұрын
It's not rosegold, Lok It's just copper lmao
@recipiend5711
@recipiend5711 8 жыл бұрын
Bjorn Caffe talking about color i think
@TheLokCheung
@TheLokCheung 8 жыл бұрын
recipien D Exactly. I don't call a rose gold iPhone expecting it's made of solid gold~
@bananasandbass
@bananasandbass 8 жыл бұрын
True, rose gold color and copper color are very different. And apple makes rose gold iphones by anodyzing aluminium in a certain color... which does not resemble coper color at all haha. Usually the simplest answer is the best: it's just copper, because it's heat conductive. It's not some fancy colored aluminium... because why would you put that on the inside of a device while that color like apple does is used for cosmetic reasons only.
@macbookproearly2011
@macbookproearly2011 8 жыл бұрын
very compact and complex.
@oscarjara5852
@oscarjara5852 8 жыл бұрын
Love how BB King is playing in the background at 4:37
@oneyellowpeacock
@oneyellowpeacock 7 жыл бұрын
'A Hard day's night' plays in the background while he does a precision based pretty hard job :')
@LlamaFluff
@LlamaFluff 8 жыл бұрын
Love the content, L Meister
@Rielestkid
@Rielestkid 8 жыл бұрын
Wow it's crazy to see the IBIS in the open like that, so cool.
@simon_patterson
@simon_patterson 8 жыл бұрын
Whoa, this is fascinating and very well done. You guys really need to alert F Stoppers and Petapixel to this video so they can each write an article to showcase it!
@RobynASDxxx
@RobynASDxxx 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, great channel, already a fan =)
@D45Z
@D45Z 8 жыл бұрын
Lok's doing a great job!
@TheLokCheung
@TheLokCheung 8 жыл бұрын
herrcoffey No the gentleman doing the demonstration was not me
@jamescousins2367
@jamescousins2367 8 жыл бұрын
Yeh I definitely won't be taking apart my camera to clean it after seeing this....
@barrystreet2046
@barrystreet2046 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lok never seen that before.
@xmeda
@xmeda 8 жыл бұрын
No gloves, no laminar box.. ESD + moisture + grease + dust contaminated camera.. You don't want service like this for your camera.
@CDNChaoZ
@CDNChaoZ 8 жыл бұрын
They also let Lok touch the sensor module.
@Photogearnews
@Photogearnews 8 жыл бұрын
+xmeda At the start of the video he states that actual 'work' he is undertaking is cleaning sensors, camera exteriors and, if required, performing sensor updates. He was working on demonstration cameras so the public could see just what was involved in taking them apart and putting them back together , and the technology inside
@Photogearnews
@Photogearnews 8 жыл бұрын
+CDNChaoZ They were using demonstration cameras. It wasn't a real working environment - just made to look like one. The technician was performing sensor cleaning, exterior cleaning and firmware updates - as he stated towards the start of the video. Obviously they wouldn't just let someone pick up and wobble a customers camera
@michaellim4165
@michaellim4165 5 жыл бұрын
5:32 "Flankly, I'm weally tied" Okay.
@pioneerworx
@pioneerworx 8 жыл бұрын
Thx for sharing!
@simongentry
@simongentry 8 жыл бұрын
too cool! ty for sharing.
@rvjr
@rvjr 8 жыл бұрын
Olympus had a similar service at PhotoPlus
@JohnyTechReview
@JohnyTechReview 8 жыл бұрын
Damn so much parts. I'm getting nervous looking at it thinking about reserves process lol
@victormanuelgonzaleznorieg2478
@victormanuelgonzaleznorieg2478 8 жыл бұрын
Amazing video...!!!
@icarus03lmfp
@icarus03lmfp 8 жыл бұрын
Is this your new channel, Lok? I just saw this video shared on SonyAlphaRumors.com! Very cool! Thanks for making it! I had no idea it would be so packed on the inside!
@sweettooth5737
@sweettooth5737 8 жыл бұрын
Now THAT is one cool video!! Awesome!! Never seen that before...👍👍😁
@ObelixCMM
@ObelixCMM 8 жыл бұрын
Lok finally learned how to use Face Detection AF on Sony camera ;)
@notthere83
@notthere83 7 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the bad jokes Lok makes and how the technician doesn't react AT ALL.
@catnamestaken
@catnamestaken 8 жыл бұрын
So how long did it take to open all that up?
@pckuching3374
@pckuching3374 8 жыл бұрын
a7r2 disassembly guide
@ccabus
@ccabus 8 жыл бұрын
good job Lok
@ankur6491
@ankur6491 8 жыл бұрын
loved it bro.. 😃
@xyz49271
@xyz49271 8 жыл бұрын
If Lok & Kai were the Hammond & Clarkson of Camera reviews then the Sony guy should sign up to be James May, he's already "The Disassembler"
@cheatopher
@cheatopher 8 жыл бұрын
This was a good video guys, I always wanted to learn how to do this. Any suggestions?
@JeremyGalloway
@JeremyGalloway 7 жыл бұрын
So many minds and countless decades of engineering before humans could produce devices like this... and now we can buy them with a single paycheck or two! great times we live in! By the way, it's nice to see Lok work with someone who treats gear so delicately, unlike a certain camera review show host ;)
@filmartjorgeuriza9521
@filmartjorgeuriza9521 Ай бұрын
where are Lok Watches based please their Website? thanks in advance!
@Photogearnews
@Photogearnews Ай бұрын
@@filmartjorgeuriza9521eh?
@angriestphotographer3590
@angriestphotographer3590 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing Jelly Sensor
@rahmanfaurani7290
@rahmanfaurani7290 8 жыл бұрын
im here looking lok looking expert unlocking lock of camera, what am i looking about ?
@Ranblv
@Ranblv 8 жыл бұрын
Good job Lok and company. this was fascinating. No wonder the form factor is so small, the whole body is like an onion layer by layer.
@jonsummers9302
@jonsummers9302 7 жыл бұрын
I liked the woo finder being removed best.
@pronoy91
@pronoy91 7 жыл бұрын
the mobile cameras with ois implement the same thing inside very tiny package and their lens is tiny enough to wiggle along with the sensor. This is quite similar to the way laser-diode+lens in mounted inside the optical drives like cd/dvd writers (yep, I like taking apart stuffs. and lately their chances of survival have become much better). My dad's camera had a large 400V capacitor for flash, it gave me a nasty jolt while I was poking around =D
@Samuel.Andersen
@Samuel.Andersen 8 жыл бұрын
Nice video 👍🏼
8 жыл бұрын
How does he remember how to put it back???
@hudwa
@hudwa 8 жыл бұрын
AWESOME video!! BTW, I only subscribe and get notifications for PGN because of Lok. Get him in more videos!!
@marcelleclerc690
@marcelleclerc690 7 жыл бұрын
THAT'S ENGINEERING BABY
@jgaskell80
@jgaskell80 8 жыл бұрын
I used to service Kodak at Precision Camera... the Sony flex system is amazing compared to the dinosaur like soldered boards I worked on in '06.
@alexandermckay8594
@alexandermckay8594 8 жыл бұрын
Way more complicated than I thought! How much do they charge for that service? It looks like it would take them 45 min just to disassemble it!
@faudanke4459
@faudanke4459 8 жыл бұрын
first lok inside a sony a7r II
@Razhagoranvlogs
@Razhagoranvlogs 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Lok I have a question ? between canon 5d mark IV ,and the Sony r7s II Which one should I buy , I have been doing a lot of Research on them ,I am still having a hard time to decide which one to get , I will be using it for photos and videos , (like 50/50) For both Cinematography I appreciate any suggestion ,thank you ,😊😊😊
@OlegKorsak
@OlegKorsak 7 жыл бұрын
go Canon. Sony has a moisture sucking-in problem with a corrosion after some time. Just see 3:38
@johnfragos7660
@johnfragos7660 8 жыл бұрын
A very interesting wideo
@BigFish2023
@BigFish2023 3 жыл бұрын
I own a Sony a7r VI with a Sony 24-70 gm lens. Why is it that when I use AF-C to shoot. The camera lags a bit when I want to rapid shoot on single shot option? I tried everything from changing around the settings but it only made a slight difference on the speed performance. I even switched sd cards and nothing. I tested my lens with Sony and it's fine. I have the latest firmware and nothing...... Can anyone help me please
@cawfeedawg
@cawfeedawg 8 жыл бұрын
I can see why sony has a problem with overheating
@ThePandaPhotographer
@ThePandaPhotographer 8 жыл бұрын
Here is where I'm not on there trust side of Sony, so how does a weather sealed body get moisture? Canon is the best when it comes to weather sealed bodies. I'm afraid to take my camera outside now.
@ThePandaPhotographer
@ThePandaPhotographer 8 жыл бұрын
Shi Womino Yes and No but Sony had told others it has some weather sealing and some retailers are advertising this camera to be weather sealed. Read the information even on B&H website says so therefore someone is informing the. It does.
@ThePandaPhotographer
@ThePandaPhotographer 8 жыл бұрын
Shi Womino ok if it moisture resistance then why does this camera have moisture inside? Listen to what he said when opening the body. As I said before I think it's all bullshit if Sony claims its moisture resistant and dust
@Daniel_Zalman
@Daniel_Zalman 8 жыл бұрын
Guys, get a better microphone or something to block out some of the ambient noise.
@AmirHamzah_MAHBAR
@AmirHamzah_MAHBAR 8 жыл бұрын
Hi PGN, i have request for future video. Maybe someday you guys hire a subtitle person. Because people like me are not so good in english. Love your video anyway
@Photogearnews
@Photogearnews 8 жыл бұрын
+Amir Hamzah it's all been a bit crazy with CES, but we will try to subtitle our videos in the future. Thanks!
@darkhem95
@darkhem95 7 жыл бұрын
I just shattered the glass of the viewfinder from my A7Rii somehow in my bag :'( Not sure how much the repair (changing viewfinder) would cost... ? Does anyone have experience with that type of repair?
@rammsteins88
@rammsteins88 7 жыл бұрын
Quite expensive, the viewfinder alone costs at least 40-50$, and you have to disassemble quite a lot to get to replace it. Ask your local Sony service center for an estimate.
@kiritokxic
@kiritokxic 8 жыл бұрын
why the my heart beatin faster..
@ADDEj360
@ADDEj360 8 жыл бұрын
LOK C❤️
@gustavocampos1969
@gustavocampos1969 8 жыл бұрын
DON'T BUY A SONY CAMERA WIHTOUT READING THIS FIRST: I'm a Sony ILCE A7R2 shooter. I've been a Sony shooter for a long time (since the SLT models) and also a Sony customer in other areas (TV, DVD and so on). NEVER had I any problems with my Sony stuff. So far... In november 2016 my A7R2 presented with a focus problem. In lower apertures it was a little bit out of focus. So, dutily, I went to the Sony representative here in Portugal. After a few days, they said it would have to be sent to Spain, one of the TWO centers in Europe that could fix this camera. After a few days, they said that the problem was with my lens (I had to send my Zeiss 50mm 1.8 along with the camera, because they said they had no lenses to even test the camera!). It was impossible, because I have 5 FE lenses and a bunch of A-mount lenses and ALL worked perfectly with my other Sony FE camera (and also with a friend's too). Then... silence. For the last 40 days I haven't heard again from them. And I call EVERY DAY. Not even complaining directly to Sony Portugal did any good. So, Matt Granger was right! I thought it was a problem with Australia, but no, it's international. I'm not a professional, but that doesn't mean I should be without my camera for months in a row, especially for something so simple as a focus adjustment. My conclusion: DO NOT BUY ILCE CAMERAS. They are WONDERFUL cameras, but God forbide you ever need a Sony repair. And now I have more than 7.000 euros worth of equipement sitting in my shelf waiting for the good will of Sony to fix my camera. Man, how I wish I had not fallen to that and have heard Mr. Granger... Perhaps some internet reviewer could do a test and send a camera to Assistance WITHOUT disclosing they are professionals and see how long it takes in other countries to have it fixed. Hope it helps other people NOT to jump into the same lake I did.
@msopha884
@msopha884 8 жыл бұрын
Ok...that was cool.
@tedmaulz
@tedmaulz 8 жыл бұрын
theres no need for him to put it back together. he tells the customer its water damaged and needs to purchase a new one. standard sony procedure.
@MestreMur
@MestreMur 8 жыл бұрын
Great one... Thank you! I will not tried to open my Sony A7RII by myself!
@OlegKorsak
@OlegKorsak 7 жыл бұрын
all Sony A7R II have a corrosion problem after 1-2yrs even in perfect situations
@wagnernoise
@wagnernoise 8 жыл бұрын
It was nice to see the technician unmount the camera piece by piece. BTW, the "rose gold metal" is copper ;)
@Maochan81
@Maochan81 8 жыл бұрын
hahaa, copper is the new rose gold :)
@LeytonC
@LeytonC 8 жыл бұрын
Lok doing a great job - the guy doing the job doesnt seem to impressed that Lok is there...
@bigtxgravy7011
@bigtxgravy7011 8 жыл бұрын
LOK THE LEGEND ฅʕ♡ᴥ♡ʔฅ
@FinnBaygan
@FinnBaygan 8 жыл бұрын
what do you call a chinese camera reviewer on rails? a Lokomotive
@jackchow4316
@jackchow4316 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and I'll never take my old A7s apart...
@juiceplanet147
@juiceplanet147 8 жыл бұрын
That some BS I bought the first A7 in it stop working in the repair place that fix Sony cameras said it takes 4-5 hrs to take apart. Dude did it less than a hour.
@profosist
@profosist 8 жыл бұрын
Q to fully take apart this guy is removing as many modules at once that he can
@m112a
@m112a 6 жыл бұрын
Who else recognized BB King in the background?
@kulilipan4250
@kulilipan4250 8 жыл бұрын
so that means sony is a really good camera.
@OlegKorsak
@OlegKorsak 7 жыл бұрын
especially at 3:38
@MrKdr500
@MrKdr500 7 жыл бұрын
Rose gold? it's copper.
@Photogearnews
@Photogearnews 7 жыл бұрын
+MrKdr500 that's the joke... albeit a subtle one
@stumpycatvm7115
@stumpycatvm7115 8 жыл бұрын
dont sneeze
@rammsteins88
@rammsteins88 7 жыл бұрын
That is not the correct way to disassemble A7RII... Just saying.
@DigitalSamTV
@DigitalSamTV 8 жыл бұрын
its great ur getting out there and trying hard lok... but ir videos jist lack that punch and dynamic they had before . seriously just hook up with kai. make a professional sounding channel name... camera pro / digital world, whatever, something generic. all the mahic and interesting funniness and life will be back. u guys would just clean up on youtube and make shit loads. dunno what alamby schedule is but contract her in for the off cameo performance here and there and the views will jist go through the roof... so it before its too late, u already created the market for u guys!
@AzamatoTheGreat
@AzamatoTheGreat 8 жыл бұрын
Lok my main nigga
@KikujiroChan
@KikujiroChan 8 жыл бұрын
unfortunately that guy can't fix Loks broken english X]
@RusstafaB
@RusstafaB 8 жыл бұрын
Really surprised the Sony technician was not wearing an earthing wrist strap. Also not working in a "clean room" as the Sony sensors are dust hungry monsters. And to let that guy "pick up" stuff like the sensor is a travesty I would never let that happen. Actually a really poor video and advert for Sony and if I was head of technology there would take it down as a really bad advert for Sony QC and handling of extremely sensitive electronic parts and equipment.
@RubberWahel
@RubberWahel 8 жыл бұрын
Don't think that was a Sony tech, just a random repair guy. And yeah no way I'd let someone work on my camera like that, no gloves, no ESD strap, no anti-dust measures, wtf?
@TheLokCheung
@TheLokCheung 8 жыл бұрын
Russtafa B Partly my fault didn't mention this is a demonstration. They don't take apart cameras there. What they do there is cleaning sensor, LCD, etc, update firmware if needed. Please read the updated description.
@mufc-py1ii
@mufc-py1ii 8 жыл бұрын
Surely you are not being serious?
@RusstafaB
@RusstafaB 8 жыл бұрын
mufc0099 Look up any ESD protection
@Photogearnews
@Photogearnews 8 жыл бұрын
+Russtafa Again, this was a demonstration. The technician was only performing sensor cleaning, lens and screen cleaning and firmware updates
@ShlomoLevi
@ShlomoLevi 7 жыл бұрын
it's your new A7 from b&h? for my experience, sony products(other than cameras) do not live long. you can find for ex. old Compaq laptop, that even company does not exist and it will work, but if you want 5 y.o Vaio it will be a hard target. and canon/nikon cameras well-known by it long span of life. So if you fancy picturer, that change camera every year and not sell tham at all, so sony, but if you want to buy a camera for yourself fo long time so canon/nikon personaly me , wlill not afraid to buy 12 y.o 5d (if i will find for $100)))) or 9 y.o 5dMK2 but i will afraid to buy used A7 ,especially from photographer . only if I personaly have a friend like this russian technician in video)))
@OlegKorsak
@OlegKorsak 7 жыл бұрын
agreed. Just watch 3:38 corrosion will eat all the copper stuff also. It's just a matter of time. All Sony A7R/S II have such problem
@yuan-jia
@yuan-jia 8 жыл бұрын
Lok is a bit lame, the video is interesting though but the comments really, even the expert seems kind of bored lol.
@esgee3829
@esgee3829 8 жыл бұрын
flankly...that's it. I'm done.
@esgee3829
@esgee3829 8 жыл бұрын
and the doctor analogy was gold...well, rose gold (copper). on the inside.
@actionimagesphotography
@actionimagesphotography 8 жыл бұрын
Sony tech, with an Apple watch........hmmm.
@WHITELIONNYC
@WHITELIONNYC 8 жыл бұрын
globalimage he probably has an iphone and macbook, and a samsung tv at home...everything but Sony lol
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