Photographing panorama images with a film camera; and a brief review of Lomo Spinner 360

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Күн бұрын

Panorama images are a lot of fun. You can use almost any film camera to shoot them if you are okay with cropping your images. I'm not, so I have some other means.
I also purchased a Lomo Spinner 360 mystery machine -- which triggered me to make this video.
Here are the cameras I showed:
Moskva 5: camera-wiki.org/wiki/Moskva-5
Graflex Crown Graphic: camera-wiki.org/wiki/Graflex_S...
Da Yi roll film back: camera-wiki.org/wiki/Da_Yi
Lerouge 45 pinhole camera: www.lerouge-camera.fr/product...
Holga 120 Panoramic: camera-wiki.org/wiki/Holga-120Pan
FT2 Industar: camera-wiki.org/wiki/FT-2
Horizont: camera-wiki.org/wiki/Horizont
Lomo Spinner 360: camera-wiki.org/wiki/Spinner_3...

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@TomNorthenscold Ай бұрын

This 360 photos are crazy wild!

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

:-) Yeah, out of this world .....

@jmtubbs1639 Ай бұрын

Last time you mentioned the Horizont we discussed lubrication. I have found that lubricating the top and bottom bearings pretty well solves banding problems. You are right it does involve some work to remove the top and bottom but it is worth it. You seem to have solved the problems with yours. I think you have finally persuaded me to get a Spinner as well.

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

This Spinner is so crazy! I'm already thinking about all kinds of insane photo ideas ... like inside a car, while riding a bicycle, in a library etc ... my creative juices are flowing, exactly the reason to buy more cameras :-)

@jmtubbs1639 Ай бұрын

@@ShootOnFilm Oooh!

@williamshaffer9216 Ай бұрын

Great Video!!! I love that Lomo 360 Camera!!!

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

It is a lot of fun, yes!

@imac3355 Ай бұрын

Another great vid! I can highly recommend the Rolleiflex pano head (later model) with the quick release plate for your Rollei. The unstitched 6x6 negatives look excellent side by side.

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip!

@tumaprints Ай бұрын

So cool! Might have to order a set of adaptors and try 35mm in my Mamiya645 and my Holga. Lovely shots, Ari. I really love your boat shots and street photos. You are an inspiration, for sure.

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

Thanks thanks!! Appreciated!!

@theblackandwhitefilmproject Ай бұрын

It's always worth getting up on a Sunday morning (NZ time) and watching your videos! Best regards.

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

Thanks thanks!!! Just spend a weekend with our friends who came from NZ. They spend a month there driving up and down with a rented green RV. Looked awesome. I must get to NZ sometime!!!!

@theblackandwhitefilmproject Ай бұрын

@@ShootOnFilm Absolutely! Seeing NZ in an RV is the only way to go.You can get to isolated locations where there is no accommodation. We use ours mainly in the winter - less people with better light and mist. Just before or after rain for me is the best time. Scandinavia including Finland seems amazingly exotic to us.The other side of the fence etc.

@Martin_Siegel Ай бұрын

I love shooting panos. Most of the time I stitch them together from single shots (2 or 3) but I also have a Lomo Belair which can shoot 6x12 images and a Horizon I once stitched 2 panos made with Horizon so a double double ;-)

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

Yeah, the wider the better :-)

@davidottman9501 Ай бұрын

Fun options! A couple years ago I rolled some 35mm into a 120 backing paper and put it into my Moskva 4. You've inspired me to do that more often. The spooling process is so simple in concept, yet I found it rather difficult to accomplish in pitch dark. Maybe next time I'll use ortho film so I can leave the red light on. It's worth the effort! Thanks for showing all the other options to make panoramas. They need not be complicated or expensive. Plus, results are uncommon because most people don't have the patience to mess with it.

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

I need to spool it carefully, taking my time and thinking ahead. You cannot rush spooling ...

@tumaprints Ай бұрын

I knew there was a reason I held onto a few rolls of backing paper. Just never knew why...until now...LOL

@danncorbit3623 Ай бұрын

I have a 42 inch 4K monitor. This is very valuable for looking at panorama pictures. For my part, I think the best dimensional ratio for photographs is the golden ratio (1.618:1 approximately) like the Parthenon. Somehow, it does seem more beautiful to me. I also do like the square 1:1 ratio and the inverse golden ratio of 0.618:1 but in the end, the right ratio is what is best so I often do oddball crops that are hard to frame. I took a panorama of a herd of buffalo in a field that was so long it would look absurd printed unless you ran it down a long hallway.

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

I wish I had a monitor like that! I bet it would totally change my viewing habits -- I'm just using a small Mac Pro :-)

@danncorbit3623 Ай бұрын

@@ShootOnFilm I often get a completely different idea of a photo when I view it full size. When you see the full details it can be much more appreciated.

@sbills Ай бұрын

There's a modified Hasselblad film called the P27 (panoramic format - 27 exposures). I think if you research it you can find the person that does the modification to those. It's just a regular A-12 back that's modified. I've seen some of the photos from those modified back and it's kind of cool imho.

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

Cool -- thanks. I will check that out!

@stephenm103 Ай бұрын

I miss my square format 503 dearly but, as you point out, I find myself cropping down to achieve the same look. Still somehow not as gratifying. You are totally correct about limiting choices at the shoot. It's an extension of the oft-repeated answer to the question "Which camera is the best for this situation?" - - with the answer being "The one you brought!" Had to wonder about the shoe on the top of the Lomo Spinner. Lomo Spinner flash photography may be a niche unto itself???? As a print, panorama for me just never worked. As a scan - it can be wonderful. Thank you for giving my old brain something worthwhile to contemplate again this week, Ari!

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

I have no clue about the flash shoe. It seems to make no sense :-)

@ahaco8734 Ай бұрын

Great work! Greetings from Poland

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

Thanks thanks!!!

@ChoppersModelworks Ай бұрын

I'm kind of surprised people are not finding a way to change the plastic lens out of the Holga Pano body to make a lightweight Pano camera with maybe reasonably inexpensive glass lenses.

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

But ... that would ruin a Holga!!! 🙂

@jamesprovenzano7021 Ай бұрын

Thanks Ari for a great video. Could you maybe explain how to spool the 35mm film with the backing paper? I am really interested to give it a try!

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

I actually made almost the same video a long time ago but had totally forgotten it. It even has the same song as the background music!! I'm making these videos without any planning, so these things happens. Here is more: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmbOppethd-brJosi=e9RrOyC652_9LpuQ&t=480

@jamesprovenzano7021 Ай бұрын

Thanks again! Super clear method. Going to try it with 6x12 pinhole camera!

@williamthompson5929 Ай бұрын

I have only created panoramas by stitching a series of pictures using Microsoft ICE. I loved your results.

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

That's certainly one way to do it 🙂

@qnetx Ай бұрын

I have a Lomography Sprocket Rocket that I enjoy using for panoramic photos.

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

It looks like a fun thing ....

@careypridgeon Ай бұрын

I have a medium format 6x17 panoramic field camera, but I'm still learning how to use it. I didn't buy a roll film back because those are limited in the lenses you can use with them.

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

6x17 seems like a fantastic format!

@careypridgeon Ай бұрын

@@ShootOnFilm It does, I'm still working everything out my camera has so many movement options it's rather overwhelming. Axis tilt on both standards too.

@hoggif Ай бұрын

A perfect selfie camera! I have trouble visualizing horizon photos, that 360 lomo makes my hed hurt.

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

Yes, the horizon gets all messed up -- in a good way!

@ejorbe Ай бұрын

Oh very cool! You showed on Amazon the adapters for 35mm film to 120, and you said get backing paper, but do you just search backing paper on amazon? My other question is you take the pictures from 135 film on your 120 camera, but do you then rewind the 135 film back into the canister? Did you have a video where you did or explained this process of wrapping the film in backing paper? This is very interesting and would like to know more about this! Super cool video and normally it leaves me happy and inspired, I am inspired and slightly happy because this time it raised more questions than answers for me! Haha now I have to calm my mind to get to sleep!

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

Sorry I didn't go any deeper with this ... let me try to answer: -you cannot buy backing paper. It's leftover for your medium format film roll if you develop them at home. You can also ask the local development lab if they have any leftovers. -no, you don't rewind. Medium-format cameras do not let you rewind. Instead, you take the film roll out without rewinding as the film is now protected by the backing paper around it. The most difficult part is the spooling in the dark. You need to take it easy and slow :-) I actually made almost the same video a long time ago but had totally forgotten it. It even has the same song as the background music!! Is Alzheimer's kicking in already? ;-) I'm making these videos without any planning, so these things happens. Here is more: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmbOppethd-brJosi=e9RrOyC652_9LpuQ&t=480

@ejorbe Ай бұрын

@@ShootOnFilm ah ok! I will check out this video! Thank you!

@ruudmaas2480 Ай бұрын

Interesting. I keep it with cropping a 4x5 inch film.

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

Yeah, that makes SENSE, but I'm not that sensible myself :-) That's leaving too many options for the location ....

@maf421 Ай бұрын

Ari, does the spinner have a tripod mount? If you mount it on a tripod, you could compose, pull the cord and release while ducking under the tripod. My panos don't always turn out level. I've bought a couple of those little 'dot' circular 360* bubble levels to stick on my pano cameras.

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

Yes, there is a tripod mount. But, that would then require using a tripod, right ;-)

@lupindeweir Ай бұрын

Great fun! What are your thoughts on negative space in panos? I don't do much of them but it seems that with the right subject you could turn a duet into two solos sung into a divide. Moody again, maybe a bit sad but as someone once said "The Sun Also Rises". Have a Great week!! -mike

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

An interesting question. It seems I use more negative space in my squares.

@tim31415 Ай бұрын

Great shots. Love the sprocket holes, they kinda frame the image.

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

Thanks. I like them too. A bit gimmicky but fun.

@erikboon6549 Ай бұрын

Great video! When you use 35mm film in a medium format camera with the backing paper, does the film stay flat enough? I once tried spooling 35mm film in 127 format but the results were out of focus due to curling of the film. What is your experience with curling film?

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

Happens sometimes. Yes, It helps if you spool it really tight.

@chriscard6544 Ай бұрын

I love ratio 1:1 but recently I work with 5x7 sheets and that's awesome. Im not able to shoot panorama

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

It's a bit strange this panorama. I agree ...

@letmebereal Ай бұрын

Hi Ari, what film did you use for the Holga?? Thanks and enjoying your video's from New Zealand.

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

Fomapan 100

@kdj.imagery4317 Ай бұрын

May I ask, I see you have the Holga panoramic camera. I am looking at the Holga pinhole camera that looks similar to that, have you shot with it and if so, how does it compare too the panoramic one? Also, does it say in the manual what the f/stop is on them? I was looking on BandH and it doesn't indicate what it is. Thanks! Ps, does that Lomo Spinner talk when you pull the string?

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

I have not tried Holpa Pinhole, but I have other pinhole cameras. To me, the biggest difference is that you cannot take pinhole pictures handheld, whereas Holga Pan, yes. Also, Pinhole pictures have an even softer and dreamy look. So depends on what you want. My experience is that Holga is around f13 cloud, about f16 sun. The spinner says "ahhh" when you let go of the string.

@AlfonsCarpio Ай бұрын

How do you ensure that the 35 mm film is in the middle of the backing paper and how do you compose using a viewfinder that is not panoramic? I am trying to shoot panorama with my Voigtländer Bessa RF and I struggle to have a right horizontal composition

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

Fold the backing paper lengthwise from two places so that the 35 mm slot appears in the middle of these folds. Then, let the folds open and go into a dark room. Now the film automatically slides in between as it is guided by these folds tilting slightly upwards. Then about the viewfinder. Well, that is just trial and error and practice. 😊

@flyingo Ай бұрын

I have one of these spinner cameras, loaded with film but I have yet to try it out.. I keep stopping myself to wait for “something better” as far as a subject and I’m not seeing any shutter release or glass lens, so I’m not sure how the exposure is triggered. I guess I’ll find out.

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

There is no shutter in this camera. Exposing happens by moving film past the open shutter. You pull, and when releasing the string, the film is moved, and at the same time, the head rotates. That movement exposes film passing by the lens.

@allmediaguy1 Ай бұрын

especially enjoyed the spinner photos when you didn't hold the camera perfectly horizontally

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

Yeah. I like them too.

@jeffreystulin8130 Ай бұрын

Does one 120 backing paper fit an entire roll (36) of 35mm?

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

No. About half

@tumaprints Ай бұрын

How do you cut your negatives? Scissors?

@ShootOnFilm Ай бұрын

Yes

@tumaprints Ай бұрын

@@ShootOnFilm I will email you a link to a top notch film and slide cutter for 120. Way better than anything the photo suppliers carry. They all carry a cheap guillotine style cutter that wrecks your film more often than not. Roger at Shoot Film Like a Boss just got one on my recommend and really likes it.